/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9786695
https://github.com/orgs/ps2homebrew/repositories?type=all
OPL still gets worked on ya

>>9786695
OPL supports EXFAT now

>>9786695
Dead.
No.

>>9786729
You're retarded

>there's an snes emulator that runs games way better than snes station ever could but needs more work to reach viability
>nobody has updated it because there's zero interest on ps2brew
I know I'm asking too much but would be neat to have a working snes emu for the PS2.

I hooked up my PS2 earlier today, it's one of my only systems that doesn't yet have a softmod or everdrive equivalent. Any suggestions on where to start like FreeMcBoot? Obviously I can and am googling this but I wanna drive discussion here too for fun.

>>9786763
ez way is to buy a memory card with freemcboot already installed.
iirc for Fat PS2 you need FreeHDloader instead.

>>9786739
ad hominem

>>9786779
ad retardum

>>9786767
You don't need FreeHDBoot, it's just an option on the fat PS2 unlike the slim, which doesn't support hard drives.

>>9786763
Like the other person said the easiest way is to buy a memory card with freeMCBoot already loaded, they're cheap off eBay. Then if you have a slim (which have ethernet built in), or a fat PS2 with a legit network adapter, you can run games over the network.

If you have a fat PS2, you can either get a real network adapter or a fake "network" adapter. The benefit of a real one is that they actually support ethernet, allowing you to boot games over the network. If you want to run games of a hard drive, the real network adapters are IDE, which means you'd want to get an old hard drive to work with it.

The fake network adapters are cheaper, but they don't actually add network capability. On the plus side, they let you plug in a SATA drive. Personally, I bought one of these fake network adapters, a cheap SATA hard drive, and a USB to SATA cable. I don't mind the extra few minutes of removing the hard drive from the PS2, plugging it into my PC, installing games to it and then putting it back into the PS2, I'd rather do that than run a server, but it's up to you. Unless you have a slim, in which case hard drive isn't an option and network is your best bet.

>>9786895
I'll also add that in my experience of playing PS2 games off of a hard drive in the past year using OPL, I've played about 25 games, and have only had troubles with 2, Klonoa 2 had fucked up audio, and FF12 IZJS had choppy FMV cutscenes. Both of these problems were fixed for me by turning on mode 1 in OPL, which makes reads from the hard drive happen at the same speed as they would from a disc.

>at last, good games on a Sony console

>>9786920
fucking based lol

>>9786695
There's something in the works that will let you play PS1 games without burning them on series 75000 and newer slims. It uses the chip that emulates PS1 on these models. I don't follow this much, as I own the 70000 model (with the real, not emulated PS1 CPU on it) so it doesn't concern me. Also, it's the only model of slim that can use HDD with a hardmod.

https://youtu.be/BQfFl-c5krQ

https://www.psx-place.com/threads/an-ode-to-krhacken-popstarter.36517/page-3#post-351638<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Can we play PSX games through the hard drive yet?

>>9787794
Never noticed how nice this track is

>>9786763
on the fcmb forum theres people who will install it for you free if you send them a mem card.

>>9786695
Can you just let it die, the PS2 dont have enough power to emulate SNES well, in fact, even the Wii (which is a slightly beefier GC) barely does emulate SNES accurately outside of VC wads, even games like Megaman X2 suffer from frame rate dropouts.

>>9787909
> get retroarch ps2
> even the NES core runs like shit
can't tell if just lazy libretro port or the emotion engine is just that weak

>>9788191
FCEUmm runs fine, the quicknes core also runs ok but I can't use my full romset or the thing freezes trying to load everything.

>>9788206
Can't remember which one I used but Metal Slader Glory was not running at the proper speed

didnt they release a GBA emulator for PS2 that runs surprisingly well?

>>9787886
POPStarter

>>9787886
Yes, via popstarter. It is retard proof, however. Some games run in wonky ways that are fixable, but require you to know a bit of basic code to throw into the memory card folder for the game you're having issues with.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>9787794
>no filtering on the samples

>>9788191
>300mhz
>open source emulators were never made with the PS2 arch in mind
>the RISC CPU is especially shitty at agnostically running unoptimized code
It's pretty damn weak when you take open source projects meant for x86, compile to MIPS and pray for the best. That's all Retroarch and other homebrew emus do. I'm convinced that Sony or similarly talented/in-the-know devs could have done better. POPstarter and PS1 games on PSP are proof of that. SNES Station and Retroarch run like shit because it's just kiddies compiling it. They wouldn't know the first thing about actually changing the code for better performance, and you'd probably have to start from the ground up anyway. Not use SNES9x as the basis.

>>9787886
No.
Popstarter is an emulator

>>9789121
Isn't sony also using an emulator when we're popping the psx discs in there?

>>9787909
It *could* emulate SNES games fine, just not through homebrew 'devs' 'porting' emulators to it. MVG tier frauds can't just throw PC emulators on it with 0 effort and expect good results like the Xbox. That and it's clocked pretty low.

>>9789127
No it has ps1 chips IIRC

>>9789103
It shocks me every time how such a machine ran all those games. Impressive to say the least.

>>9789127
No. POPS was developed for a really specific use case (DLC PS1 games launched off the Japanese PS2 HDD unit), and was later repurposed by the PS2 homebrew scene. PS1 discs use the PS1 chips that all PS2s have on the PCB.

>>9789138
>>9789127
This is because the PS1 chips on the PS2 have no way to talk to interfaces a real PS1 wouldn't be aware of, like the HDD or USB. I don't know if launching PS1 games off USB/HDD/SMB/SD with hardware backwards compatibility will ever be possible. Probably cannot be done via software at all. Maybe some modchip would allow it, but it can't be that simple if this much time has passed.

>>9789132
It's pretty stronk per clock when its arch is taken into account. It's pretty embarrassing when ported to, though. Luckily it was the most popular system and devs mastered it.

>>9789138
>DLC PS1 games launched off the Japanese PS2 HDD unit
what in fucking tarnation
do you have any examples of this?

>>9789145
Is there no ODE for PS2 that can run PS1 games from it?

>>9789149
Described in detail in this thread.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191110121946/https://assemblergames.com/threads/testing-out-pops-00001-on-ps2-need-help-on-patinfo-kelf.44087/#post-646222/

https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Official_emulators#Emulators_on_PS2
>Developed by SCEI, it was published by Konami as DLC for BB Unit owners, and came with (and locked to only play) the game ビシバシスペシャル3.[2]

>>9789150
No. As of now you have to emulate with POPS or run some sort of boot exploit with real discs.

>>9789157
Frick
*stores ps2's away for another 10 years*

>>9789159
By real discs I meant CDR backups of course. It's really not too big a deal as is. PS1's pretty well emulated and I find that you only really need PS1 compatible hardware for lightgun games. So you only need to burn or buy a few discs. PS2 stuff's a done deal via softmods.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

Oh, of note, don't attempt running games with any funky peripherals with POPstarter. Guncon games don't work for sure.<div class="xa23b"><span class="xa23t"></span><span class="xa23i"></span></div>

>>9786695
HOW THE FUCK DO you put NES, SMS, Sega MD/Genesis games, PC Engine, or SNES games on a PS2 memory card?

>>9789171
with ulaunchelf probably but dont put roms on your mc

>>9789171
Dude, just... bro, you really don't want to. Promise. You can drag just about any file from any interface to the memory card from the ulaunchelf interface with freemcboot, though. I'm sure there are card readers on PC that allow generic file transfer to it as well.

how is emulation on the PS4? both on the PS4 OS side and on the Linux side? I heard it plays Saturn and Dreamcast well

>>9789179
Alright, so burned CD-ROM, USB stick, or modded HDD it is then?

>>9786695
Yes, OPL get new shit
Today I just found a new OPL that can use exfat for the internal hdd
No more need for programs to install games to your hdd, just copy/paste your games to the hdd
Just make the folders like in usb mode

>>9789262
nice

>>9789207
USB stick, most emulators should be able to load games via usb

>>9789262
new OPL can use exfat USB's too so you can have files larger than 4GB

>>9789573
>USB
why do this to yourself

>>9789262
Fucking finally
Is it in the newest official release yet?

>>9789607
>release
it isn't an official release, pretty sure it's still in beta

>>9789609
I'm gonna wait for them to iron it out then, don't want to get a bug that fucks everything up. Thanks for the head's up anon

By the way other than the actual ps2 homebrew stuff what other tools do you guys use? I ask this because to this day if you just google it every pajeet under the sun will continuously recommend WinHiip to manage your HDD games but I was lucky to catch some guy mentioning HDL Batch Installer in a burried reply and it's so much better that it's not even funny.

>>9789618
I use OPL manager

>to install FMCB you need a memory card with FMCB
how did the first person to use FMCB install it on his memory card then?

>>9789632
Swap Magic 3.6 or Action Replay.

>>9789635
That's how I did it as well, still have all my swapmagic stuff. Those were some dark days,
don't miss them. Pretty sure that forcing the tray like that would fuck it eventually. But my laser burned out on me before I managed to ding the tray

>>9789632
>on his memory card
not worth wasting one of your own
get one of those cheap ones with it already on

>>9787891
https://github.com/CTurt/FreeDVDBoot
This supports even the last slims which patched FreeMCBoot, although not all fat models are supported.
Burning a correct .iso to a DVD-R is all that's needed.

>>9789574
depends on the game

>>9787794
Holy shit I forgot...

I've heard that new versions on OPL have some problems with certain games like Parappa The Rapper 2

>>9786763
If you have a slim you can just burn a dvd and plug a usb into the ps2 and make a fmcb. It’s easy as hell these days

>>9787794
>see related videos
>remixes of the theme
>other uploads of the same song
>all comments spanish and portuguese
jajaja

>>9786856
kek

>>9787909
The Wii can handle SNES fine, even games with special chips like Star Fox, DK Country and Yoshi's Island

Try using the latest version of snes9x gx

>>9790773
I couldn't boot Parappa 2 on OPL version distributed on PS2-Home website. I switched to the github version and Parappa works perfectly fine now.

>>9789262
...could you abuse this to move games from a USB sick to the HDD?

what's the best website for ps2 homebrew? psx place or ps2 home?

>>9791158
You mean from ulaunch?
Not yet, the tranfer speed from the usb port in the ps2 is shit too

>>9791159
psx place
ps2 home for opl with popstarter

>>9791164
What a shame. I'm aware of the transfer speed being atrocious but I figured it would be worth it for those cases where you want to add 1-2 games, without taking the hdd out.

>>9791178
There is a ulaunch that has exfat support for usb, maybe that one could add support for hdd in the future
So far this new OPL with exfat HDD support works for me, except for 2 games so far
>gradius V
>kof Maximum impact 2
Don't work

>>9791178
>add 1-2 games, without taking the hdd out.

If you have a real ps2 network adapter you can just use FTP to move the games on the harddrive over the network.

If you have a chink adapter for SATA/microSD it doesn't have network port.

>>9791151
>github version
the current version or an old one?

>>9791190
So basically one of the must play PS2 games, nice.

>>9791245
Seems like a problem with hdd loading for both, with the same OPL version both load fine from USB

>>9791170
>>9791159
DON'T USE THE PS2 HOME VERSION OF OPL it's fucking dog shit. The official OPL has POPStarter support, it's just that the broken Jay-Jay version of OPL from PS2 Home that YouTubers shill simply renamed the apps folder to PS1 games (PS1 games are launched as .ELF executables). That version of OPL is horrendously outdated and buggy as shit (enjoy losing your save files); it's half the reason people think POPStarter is hot garbage when in truth it's a really impressive emulator.

>>9791568
https://github.com/ps2homebrew/Open-PS2-Loader/
Here is the real OPL

>>9791568
Now I just need exfat support in the original OPL

>>9791612
I mean for popstarter

>>9791618
Never gonna happen since the POPStarter dev refuses to release the source code and stopped working on it

How do I inject saves into a virtual memory card (VMC)? I want all the characters in BattleStadium D.O.N unlocked.

>>9791228
Current

>>9790836
What do i do if this method doesn't work?
I burned the DVD at lowest speed but it doesn't load, it gets stuck at a black screen and stays there forever when trying to load the DVD.

>>9792890
Did you burn a DVD or a CD

>>9792895
DVD

>>9792853
MyMC maybe

>>9791568
be real with me bro
is there a reason to upgrade my old OPL version because the ps2 games run real well for me they even have cute little cover arts downloaded for them don't wanna mess things up updating if I don't have to

I have a fat ps2 and got some component cables, is there a way to fix all the noise interference in the video output?
I see horizontal and vertical ripples
I forgot to take a photo of the ps2, but the vertical bars look like pic related
They show up with composite too
>>9793023
>updooter
If it works don't updoot

>>9793158
This used to happen to me too. Sadly, new wires seemed to be the only thing that fixed it.

>>9793158
>If it works don't updoot
But the PS1 games have issues, which makes me think.. >>9791568 is right and that I should use this version.

>>9793204
For me in the wires is not the problem in xbox. Here 480p doesn't have that problem
I thought my PS2 may have some problem with 480i output, just like xbox

>>9793216
Just get another MC and put the newer OPL, and install the PS games with https://www.psx-place.com/threads/popstarter-game-installer-for-opl.34243/

>>9791568
>That version of OPL is horrendously outdated and buggy as shit (enjoy losing your save files); it's half the reason people think POPStarter is hot garbage when in truth it's a really impressive emulator
Huh. I'm curious to hear your opinion on this:
I hacked my PS2 years ago, and I checked up on my software versions and I am indeed using the anniversary gay-gay version of OPL, and in turn, popstarter (my files and versions are all dated the same year, 2021, as your discord post image). However, I've played through quite a few PS1 games via popstarter without any issues. Furthermore, any game specific cheats I use, including the recent fix to Final Fantasy VII, load and work without issue too. So I'm mildly curious if my case is a special case, or if I should go through the effort of getting rid of the PS2 HOME version of OPL and replace it with the proper release, and the proper release of popstarter. It would a bit of time and effort due to my game libraries being so large. I would want to ensure that my games, and their respective folders, cheat files, etc are transferred without issue.

Can I just replace my PS2 Home OPL .elf with a proper one or do I risk fucking something up?

Where to buy a memory card reader? I'd like to update my FreeMcBoot ebay card to the latest version.

>>9793541
put the new freemcboot in a usb stick
put usb in ps2
open ulaunchelf
copy new freemcboot file from usb (called mass: in ps2) into memory card mcboot folder

How well do most emulators and ROM, PRG, .PCE .TAP, and .CUE files work from being loaded from CD-ROM or DVD-R?

>>9793421
>if I should go through the effort of getting rid of the PS2 HOME version of OPL and replace it with the proper release, and the proper release of popstarter
Oh yeah, you should be able to just drag and replace the existing OPL files

>>9793538
Yes, but the name of the new elf should be the same as the one you will replace

>>9793541
Your eBay cards are gonna corrupt one day if they don't have an intentional ticking time bomb. The only use for an eBay card is unlock your Phat such that you can install FMCB to a real Sony memory card

>>9793879
If you have a phat then you must have a hdd, in which you can add freehddboot

>>9793967
>then you must have a hdd
a fmcb card is cheaper than a HDD + HHD module

>>9793678
>>9793879
>>9793967
Thank you anons. I have a fat with a hard drive already so I'll go the freehddboot route, but it's nice to know I can update the memory card from a USB drive as well.

>>9793993
But the hdd and the adapter is something you need for the games

>>9793867
Thank you.

>>9794471
no it's not
there's lots of games that load quickly on usb, and those that don't can be burnt on the leftover DVD-R's you have from the Obama years

>>9792890
Any more ideas?

>>9794565
>there's lots of games that load quickly on usb
They're the extreme minority. Any games with any FMV cutscenes will stutter to hell and back, and any games with in-game loading as you play will also stutter a lot.

>>9789103
>POPstarter
on a slim, yea, but on a fat i believe its just using the ps1 hardware
>PS1 games on PSP
nah. these are more or less running in a compatibility mode with the cpu. not really emulation

>>9786767
I suppose you don't have any means of running PS2 backup discs. That way just buy a memcard (magicgate compatible) with FreeMCBoot 1.966 installed. They are usually bundled with most ELFs you're gonna need like OPL, ULaunchELF etc.
I made my own card, but I do have access to a modchipped PS2 and used it to create the memcard.
That said, a hard drive is the best option for storing your games. PS2 usb is 1.1 only and magnificently slow.

>>9793023
Are you intending on installing a >2TB drive?

>>9792890
First things first.... Did you burn FreeDVDBoot or FreeMCBoot to the DVD?

>>9794970
FreeDVDBoot, the iso which is 1.4mb as Download but expands to 1.6GB or so

>>9794641
The PS2 on this >>9786763 pic is fat, and unlike slims, these have several ISOs to choose from. Not all models/DVD player firmwares are supported.
https://github.com/CTurt/FreeDVDBoot#phat-consoles

>>9795279
Was it the correct version for your system? There are several different images based on the version of your drive

Anyone has tried PS bootloader?
Seems like another fmcb alternative

>>9795372
>>9795404
I have a compatible slim and took the slim image

>>9791568
>>9791569
What's the difference between that version in the link you posted and this one: https://www.ps2-home.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=11576

I see ifcaro's name on both those pages. Or are you referring to the OPL Daily Builds to stay away from?

Bros, I need some advice. I bought an usted FAT PS2, model Scph 30001 for $15 on Marketplace. It came with an original Game (Shrek 2) the power and the composite cable. The console is in good shape, however when connected trough composite the video is in black and white for games, but with Dvd's the image is normal, in color. I have a componente cable and after changing some settings i managed to get it working and now i can play the games with color, but do you guys have any idea what is happening with the composite output? I have some questions about free mcboot, but i'll make another post about it...thanks!

Regarding Free Mcboot, i bought a memory card with OPL and FMCB version 1.953. The issue i'm having is that when i turn on the console with controller and the USB drive in, FMCB won't pop up correctly, son I must turn on the PS2 with either the controller or the USB off to get FMCB working, but even si when i try to update My OPL version through ulaunch.elf or FMCB configurator, i can't because the memory card and USB are not recognized while i get in those apps. As for OPL, i can play the games fine, but i guess for the same reason my memory card it's not recognized and it defaults to the VMC, which works ok for most of the games, but for some like jak 1 it doesn't work. The memory card it's not original, but it's works to sabe data when i plug it in after turning on the console. Pherhaps some of the FMCB data is faulty? Sorry for the long post

>>9795587
Sounds like your ps2 can't power up all 3 things at the same time

>>9794737
>on a fat i believe its just using the ps1 hardware
You can't natively run PS1 games off any PS2 through anything other than a CD, because the PS1 hardware in the PS2 is reserved as the I/O controller. Basically, access to the USB or HDD isn't available in PS1 mode.

>>9795543
Replace the composite cable. PS2 lasers have very short life spans though so look into HDD, USB, network, or MC2SIO loading as a replacement.

>>9787909
240p video and native composite is important for some games. FPGA devices will make emulation obsolete in the future, but for now the PS2 and wii are some of the best devices.

>>9796269
>PS2 has very short lifespan in regards to the laser
I don’t think it’s the same for all models, definitely not. The slims are typically more fragile or prone to screwing up, save for the last 2 iterations.
Fat models are usually stronger in longevity, at least marginally. Oh then there is the factor of how often it was banged on or violently shaken, those can cause damage as well.
On a side note, how why isn’t there as many “fragile” warnings connected to the GameCube laser?

>>9796294
All lasers are fragile

>>9796256
7500x and newer slims replaced the real IOP (PS1 CPU) with a PowerPC chip DECKARD that emulates it, and that chip can access the PS2 side peripherals through custom written "drivers", which allows running PS1 ISOs in theory.
https://gist.github.com/uyjulian/52a407f52ba968f62e34966586cdddfd

It was WIP a year or so ago (last time I checked), no idea if there's a working implementation now (I own the 70k model anyway).

>>9796269
My 2003 39xxx PS2 still works properly.

>>9796695
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/odode-open-deckard-optical-drive-emulator-discussion.36461/
Still WIP a year later.

>>9789145
>>9787886
The PS2 (before the late-model Slim) used the PS1 CPU as its I/O processor. When you played a PS2 game the PS1 CPU would process things like network data, USB data, controller data, etc. When you played a PS1 game the main game code would run natively on this I/O processor since it's literally just a PS1 CPU.

As far as I'm aware it's physically impossible to run PS1 games from the HDD because the CPU that is used to run the PS1 games is the same CPU that controls the HDD when in PS2 mode. Even if you somehow managed to get access to the HDD within the PS1 sandbox there wouldn't be enough overhead to run the game and the HDD I/O at the same time.

Part of the reason the PS2 struggles to utilize its full 100mbit ethernet speed is because the PS1 CPU is slow.

>>9796942
https://www.psx-place.com/threads/dkwdrv-unified-ps1drv-for-all-ps2-models.37183/#post-337981
From the post directly above yours:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlSdBusJHks

>>9796974
That's only for the late model Slims that replaced the PS1 CPU with a more powerful PowerPC 405 chip with 2mb of extra memory that emulates the original I/O subsystem.

Fun Fact: PS1 games perform better on those systems since they're being emulated instead of running on bare metal.

>>9796989
>Fun Fact
That is, IF they work. Real IOP vs PPC-emulated IOP:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_games_incompatible_with_PlayStation_2

>>9796385
>all lasers are equally fragile
Fuck off, electronics Marxist.