/vr/ - Retro Games

Silent Hill 1

>>9755917

>>9755917
aconcagua maybe

>>9755923
vagrant story maybe?

>>9755925
Gongaga?

>>9755924
Man, I should play this game again. It's been so long.
I remember hitting dummies a lot, missing, missing, missing, and opening the menu every 5 minutes for some reason

>>9755917
uhhhhh

>>9755924
yup.

I'd probably say Silent Hill.

MGS is an audiovisual feat, but alot of it is just the creativity of the sound designers and the camera work from people with a vision.

Vagrant Story, yea, it's amazing. But maybe not across the whole game. I do remember large swaths of that game where you're underground in basic box rooms (with boxes, ironically)

Silent Hill contains a whole town, man. And it manages to be believable and creepy as hell.

probably Terracon

I think the answer is likely Crash Team Racing or Spyro 3.

I know a lot of the answers here will be a JRPG, like Final Fantasy or Vagrant Story, but those games are very small environment with practically no real physics or AI and I cannot rationally say it's one of those.

>>9756003
Naughty Dog nailed with all Crash games on the PS1, honestly. recently replayed Warped on a CRT and some levels look beautiful, the colors, everything. this is worth a watch by the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izxXGuVL21o

>>9755939
>every 5 minutes for some reason
it's because you need to switch weapons frequently in order to get around enemies defenses effectively. probably the biggest problem with the game is the lack of quick swap

Gran Turismo.

>>9755940
I can't believe I'm being hit on by the famous Anonymous.

>>9755954
This. It does everything the Star Wars games do on the supposedly "more powerful" N64, but better, and at a smoother framerate.
>>9755941
>>9755924
This is certainly a contender, however.

>>9755917
Probably Soul Reaver. One of the first games I remember ever being "wowed" by the graphics from.

>>9755917
Alien Ressurrection
Unusual take Rayman 1, despite being 2D I dont remember any platformers until modern indie that could surpass its rich artstyle

>>9755917
>>9755923
>MGS
>Silent Hill
>SoTN
You now realise that Konami is actually one of the best PS1 developers

>>9755917

Soul Reaver
>streaming data from the cd, thus no loading. I think the only ps1 game?

Spyro series
>making a nice level of detail engine, so no fog

Crash series
>optimizing the shit out of everything, also LOD engine

FF8,9
>pushing crazy polygons and frame buffer effects in battles (summons)

Ridge Racer Turbo Mode
>they literally optimized the same old game to run at 60fps

Vagrant Story>
>I guess for having animated textures for the characters eyes
>some framebuffer effects (blur) nothing we haven't seen already
>people confuse pretty artstyle with technical achievement

Grand Turismo 2
>pushing polygons and textures on top of a physics engine and audio engine

Metal Gear
>for storing 560 hours of voice audio in just two CDs

>>9756187
They were able to get looping streamed 44khz stereo music in one of their ps1 games, so I won't doubt that. The only other companies that I can think of that achieved something similar on the console are Capcom and maybe Sony themselves.

>>9756187
Square and Konami were ps1’s Nintendo and Rare.

Conker mogs all these

>>9756187
Konami in the late 90s is only "underrated" because they were the best videogame developer in the 80s and early 90s

>>9756362
Conker is impressive (actual real dynamic shadows and stuff) but it runs at half the framerate of these games, which is typical of N64 Rare games (Goldeneye and PD also run like shit)

>>9755917
Terracon

>>9756362
Am I meant to be impressed? Looks like blurry shit and runs at an unplayably low framerate.

King's Field (US) seamless world

>>9756323
PS1's Rare is actually Naughty Dog
Konami = Treasure

>>9755947
>MGS is an audiovisual feat, but alot of it is just the creativity of the sound designers and the camera work from people with a vision.
how does this take away from the game? i don't see why this would detract from its impressiveness

>>9755917
Grant Urismo

>>9755917
Vagrant story

Omega Boost

Legend of the Dragoon really sticks out to me. It was a very hyped game and never really went anywhere. Always kind of stuck out to me though. The cut scenes were such an upgrade from the regular graphics it was kind of a treat especially between grinding levels in a place it seemed memorable. Modern games I've never really liked cut scenes, it's a button mashing event. Click X to skip the scene, oh wait you didn't do it enough re do this 20 minute cut scene you can't skip then click x a bunch of times. I can't believe people pre-order that kind of shit.

Fist of the North Star, Ace Combat 3 Electrosphere and Vagrant Story all qualify for different reasons

>>9756193
>streaming data from the cd, thus no loading. I think the only ps1 game?
There are no loading times in King's Field 2 either.

>>9755917
R4
Vagrant Story
Silent Hill
Darkstalkers
Mizurna Falls

>>9755932
lel

>>9755917
R4 is pretty

Konami = The Answer.
>>9756393
Konami was the best developer in the world, until around 2002. The amount of good games they pushed out on distinct platforms was unheard of. They peaked on MSX/FC, had a bit of a cooldown. A tiny resurgence on late MD/PC Engine, than another golden age around 1997-2001.

I was quite impressed with RE3.

>>9755940
VR Missions doesn't count, those photography missions render almost nothing at all other than the Mei Ling model so that the PS1 can actually function when they're on screen

I agree with the people saying Vagrant Story, MGS1, Silent Hill, and Soul Reaver. That being said I think the Mega Man Legends games should be mentioned for finding an art style that worked so well with the PS1's limitations.

>>9757656
Sheep Raider does better work with the style.

>>9756193
>Vagrant Story
It's a technical achievement when you consider just how tiny the game is.

>>9755924
Yeah it's probably Vagrant Story. That game is almost PS2 quality when it wants to be.

Surprised no one said Parasite Eve 2 because that game is really pretty

>>9756394
>but it runs at half the framerate of these games
I was mostly an N64fag as a kid but my brother had a Playstation so I had access to both. That being said I was obviously biased towards the N64 but going back to the N64 on original hardware is pretty hard for me even being biased. With modern N64 emulation games typically run at the actual FPS cap instead of low-mid teens or even single digits in some cases. Unfortunately this has unintended side effects in some case. I've only seen this notable in DK64 where Rare designed aspects around the FPS drops (Kong's speed up at lower framerates to keep movement consistent) but a few mini-games are extremely difficult to complete. Most notable the 2nd Rabbit race and the lights out shooting game which is ridiculously hard to complete without pause buffering.

Games like Turok 2 in particular are outright unplayable to me on N64 with the terrible FOV and framerate. Thankfully the PC remaster exists in that case but half the difficulty in the N64 version is battling the dogshit framerate. The remaster only has a few very minor issues like the goofy portrait of Joshua but otherwise is the only way to play that game nowadays.

Main point though is going back to Playstation games in general they run much more smoothly, even games with a somewhat lower FPS cap they at least run consistently. Seems pretty common 20FPS cap games run at 20FPS most of the time.

>>9757185
>They peaked on MSX/FC


You should say FC/NES considering they had quite a few NES games unreleased in Japan

>>9758265
PE2 does tons of great things, it pushes the concept of pre-rendered backgrounds to its maximum: it has scrolling, seemless transitions between FMV and backgrounds, mirror effects, and plenty more details to make the backgrounds come alive. Not even Onimusha does as much.

>>9755917
Silent Hill has some really impressive moments toward the end.
Soul Reaver almost feels like a PS2 game.
Tomb Raider 3 for the absolutely massive levels.
Tekken 3 is the most impressive fighter by far.

>>9755917
High-res mode in Gran Turismo.

>>9758285
This is one of the reasons I prefer emulation over actual HW for 5th gen

Besides framerate improvements I also do a 2x upscale to get a clearer image.

Was great back then but not worth it anymore in original form

>>9755917
WiPeOuT 3 looks next gen. Ace Combat 3 should also gets an honorable mention.

>>9758529
Nothing on those systems looks like next gen. Gen6 was too big a big jump over 5.

>>9758541
While some PS2 games looked like PS1, I have to agree about this. GT3 was a huge shock for me, considering how photo realistic it looked to me at the time.

>>9756193
>for storing 560 hours of voice audio in just two CDs
that sounds wrong, you mean 560 minutes?

>>9755917
Street Fighter Alpha 3. After several less-regarded tries Capcom managed to port a huge CPS2 game to PS1 with minimal compromises using a variety of tricks and techniques.

>>9758795
If it's not 384x224 then it's shit
and PS1 cannot output in that resolution

>>9758764
>that sounds wrong, you mean 560 minutes?
I dunno, sure felt like 560 hours of long ass cutscenes to me.

>>9758808
It's 320x240 cropped on the sides with a little more sky visible at the top of the screen. So the sprites are 1:1 pixel perfect but the view is a little bit zoomed in and the aspect ratio is slightly different.
But the characters and backgrounds don't lose any detail (other than the missing frames of animation).

>>9758808
>PS1 cannot output in that resolution
I think that it can, but Capcom stuck to 320x240 to save memory with CPS2 ports.

>>9756362
I like that game too but this is a thread about PS1 games. Please don't start that shit in here.

>>9756430
>Looks like blurry shit
Anon that's the point