/vr/ - Retro Games

It's the water. Take that away and it becomes forgettable.

This always was my favourite level as a kid. I have a fascination with very basic 3D environments. I honestly kind of like Bubsy 3D as well.

Why do people think it's supposed to be surreal and not just because it's an early 3D game made by 15 people using simple shapes and stock images?

>>9727828
That's literally what OP said.

>>9727828
Soul doesn't have to be an intentional artistic choice, anon.

It's because Mario is investigating a post-apocalypse setting.

>>9727806
Except its by far one of the worst levels. Terrible to navigate with awful platforming.

>>9727806
the town part of this level is comfy as fuck

>>9727951
I've never understood why this level ignores the rules of how slopes work, especially when every other level follows said rules.

>>9727965
It's a test level, early geometry retooled into being an actual level, you can tell it was made before even the mechanics were finalized.

>>9727831
Using stock textures is the opposite of soul. It's peak commercial garbage.

>>9727985
Never put this together before but yeah it definirely is, that weird coiling slope that goes up that you can only reach when the water is however many tiers high is a dead giveaway

>>9727831
That's literally what distinguishes soul from soulless

Although I would say it's also the amount of effort, especially for something not essential

>>9727985
>It's a test level, early geometry retooled into being an actual level
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Too bad water levels in Mario 64 are so unfun

>>9727965
SM64 doesn't have specific logic for slopes based on their steepness, it instead just has a property that dictates whether or not Mario is able to ascend it with or without sliding back down.
That's that one really steep slope in Bowser in the Sky that logically Mario shouldn't be able to run up.

>>9728038
yea
my first quake maps were things like houses and neighborhoods because it was a matter of "i wonder if i can make this" cuz thats everyones first map

what are some other levels in vidya that have an entire other area hidden away with WDW's scope? I genuinely cant think of many

>>9727806
you guys overthink this shit way too much then reinforce your "le surreal" delusions by watching youtube videos of other people doing the same thing. some jap probably designed this level in an thoughtless afternoon, then they copy/pasted it randomly into this level to put it somewhere.

>>9728257
ok so it is bullshit

>>9727996
Stock 90s textures were soul

>>9727806
Most of Mario64 is debug tier. The controls are just that good, though, that it doesn't matter.

>>9728398
This, some random jap made a blocky town and called it a day and now 30 years laters zoomers are losing their minds over it.

>>9728398
Why does some jap making something in an afternoon mean that it can't be surreal? Do you think surreal things have some innate long-term time limit during their production before they can be officially labeled as Surreal™? Dumb nigger.

>>9729486
It's not even surrealism you pseud. Stop using words you don't understand.

>>9729541
Surreal is typically used as another word for bizarre or weird, which is perfectly fine to describe the levels in SM64. Nobody is comparing the game to a fucking Salvador Dali painting. You're the pseud.

>>9729541
Says the illiterate retard. Shut the fuck up you dumb ape.

>>9727828
People hate having their enjoyment of something just reduced to nostalgia so they made up "soul" which is the same rose tinted idea. The levels are simple and a bit odd because it's early 3d but because they played it years ago they try to attribute some sort of "magic" to it that doesn't exist obviously.

>>9728257
So the source is your ass. Thanks retard lmao

>>9729596
>>9729605
It's a poor choice to describe generically video game worlds of "water level" "fire level" "desert level"

There is nothing "surrealistic" about a low polygon town. Simplified representations of what we see in the real world is not surrealism, it's simple theming. Pseud.

>>9729610
Are these people who hate having their enjoyment of something reduced to nostalgia in the room with you right now?

>>9729610
sometimes I forget thoughtful posters still exist here. well said.

I always thought that part of the level looked like a test for a Zelda town that was abandoned

When kid I thought the way to access the zone after the fence was drifting on the wall.

>>9729610
Pretty much this

>>9729623
Yep, it's probably very literally based on a nearby location. Couple of houses, a fountain/statue in the center area, a few office buildings peppered about. "Hey I wonder if I can put this in the game!" wham bam look what I made, isn't that cute? Yes Maruyama, I'll put it in the game I have a great idea for it and I didn't just waste company time in the 3D program.

>>9729618
Everytime I come here I'm amazed at how low the average IQ of this board has gotten.
The world would be better if every retard like you committed suicide

>>9729618
It doesn't matter if the levels are generic whatevers. If it looks bizarre to me, I will use the word surreal if I feel like it. The English language is pretty flexible and most people (who aren't retarded or ESL) will understand intrinsically, pseud.

>>9729618
>It's a poor choice
No it isn't. A low-poly underwater town you find in a painting with flame thrower enemies that don't actually work is bizarre, unusual and even surreal. You can now shut your apehole and stop getting hung up on one word.

>>9729629
Sorry your town level isn't surreal, it's just a primitive translation of real life ideas. Don't piss your pants over it, and if you did make sure you change or you'll develop a rash.

>>9729634
You got blown the fuck out, give it up retard.

you're both faggots

>>9729629
>no argument
The amount of seethe from troons that get this emotional is hilarious lmao

>>9729636
I see we're encroaching on the premise that all disagreement must be met with a flight. I don't really care if you disagree with me. Your premise opens the door to all video games being surreal, any representation that is not 1:1 becomes surreal. It's obtuse and distorts an entire thematic concept. The familiar laden with the physically distorted and perverse interpretations of the real world? That's now uber-surrealism. Cutesy minimalist representations of towns in a cartoon game deep in generic game themes? Surreal.

Or we can reel in the stupidity and stop treating a descriptor as a gold medal. Maybe come to terms with your limited vocabulary and look for a new way to describe it.

>>9729642
And you're king faggot of the great big faggot mountain, welcome to the family.

>>9729634
>Sorry your town level isn't surreal, it's just a primitive translation of real life ideas. Don't piss your pants over it, and if you did make sure you change or you'll develop a rash.
I don't understand why you would go full retard trying to pretend that a walled off three house town hidden under a tunnel that's constantly getting inundated is anything remotely normal. I'm sorry if these things are common occurrences in your favela shithole but most people don't have to deal with constant floodings or their towns looking like a barren wasteland

>>9729651
Or maybe you can stop being an enormous cocksucker that gets hung up on a word that's synonymous to "bizarre".

>>9729672
It's just a painting anon. Ed Edd n Eddy sure is surreal, isn't it?

>>9729673
Being that it's Mario, queer would be a more accurate word.

>>9729651
I looked up pseud on the dictionary and I found a screencap of your mentally deficient post. I recommend you rethink the life choices that led you to spout such mindless drivel, you clearly aren't mentally sound

>>9729672
Sorry you think early 3d is surreal. That's your primitive brain at work tranny.

>>9729679
I don't read picture books so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

>>9729678
>It's just a painting anon
Keep backpedaling back to /v/ nigger

>>9729678
Ed, Edd n Eddy is surreal af. No cap.

>>9729678
>Being that it's Mario, queer would be a more accurate word.
Queer would be a more accurate word for you, just in general.

>>9728398
man you faggots hate fun, yes that's obviously the case but when you're 6 years old playing your first 3D game ever and have never done any sort of programming in your life it doesn't feel like that.

>>9729684
Only thing missing is the gaping mouth. I hate youtubers so much its unreal

>>9727806
I spent hours trying to get back into that tunnel you swimmed through. I could never make it. The amount of cool things you could probably do in there...

>>9729684
>white, hates himself and his kind
>receding hairline
>beard
>putting nintendo on a pedestal
>bleep bloops are a postmodern deconstruction of capitalism
Life truly is beyond satire

>>9729705
They've been trying to push this retarded surrealism gimmick for 10 years.

>>9729786
>hello, fellow whites!

>>9729805
Oh I see, makes more sense now. I don't know this faggot.

>>9729705
>I hate youtubers so much its unreal
this. and twitchers. and tiktokers. idiocracy was a prophecy

>>9729824
more like the overlords telling you how it's gonna be soon.

>>9727965
lmao please explain these rules in detail.

>>9729610
This.
>>9729619
Yes, you ARE here in this thread.

>>9729618
>I like trains, but in painting form

>>9730916
Sorry. It was my first playthrough in ages and I just assumed slopes caused Mario to slide based on its angle.
This level proved me otherwise.

>>9732762
there are far more steep slopes that dont make you slide, its not just this level. you're a moron.