/vr/ - Retro Games

Dead or Alive and Dead or Alive only

hyper duel is hyper c00l

I'm waiting for that Sakura Wars 2 translation goddammit. At least they didn't announce it until it was already mostly finished.

>>9719050
Been playing a lot of fighting games, mostly Capcom stuff like SF Alpha 2 and Darkstalkers and also a lot of Virtua Fighter 2.

>>9719050
This console has nothing that's exclusive and worth playing. Why the daily threads anon?

>>9719253
Somehow it's my favorite console despite this, I guess scloosives dont matter

>>9719253
>exclusive and worth playing
Shining Force 3, Shining The Holy Ark.....and the list simply goes on

>>9719050
My Saturn is en route as is one of those 4in1 cards. Pretty excited to play. Going to mod it with Fenrir eventually and reshell it like my Dreamcast but until then might just burn some games.

Dragon Force looks like a lot of fun. Shining Force of Course. All the racing sims like Code R. I don't have an interest in the 2d scrollers though.

>>9719309
Develop a taste for shooters, Saturn covers a variety of them and you'll definitely come to really enjoy them. I recommend Cotton 2, it's a very funny game with great visuals and really fun game play systems.

Burning discs is a great way to start, remember to use Automatic Write Speed (AWS.)

what are some sega titan arcade ports on saturn? already got soukyu gurentai

Still working on filling out my Bulk Slash navigator completions.
>>9719271
>Shining The Holy Ark
Can confirm. Good shit.

>>9719050
Grandia. The Saturn version of the game is still the definitive way to play it, with the PlayStation and PC versions being filled with graphical issues and the occasional bug.

>>9719253
Saturn has a ton of cool games. They're mostly JP only is the problem.
>>9719271
I don't get why people like these so much. Holy Ark is pretty mediocre as far as dungeon crawlers go. Even Shining in the Darkness was more fun in spite of its bullshit. SF3 has pretty nice combat, but most of the maps are boring. The writing in both is simultaneously dreadful and way too much for the story it wants to tell

I got burnt out 60hrs into Grandia and can't be fucked to complete it, gonna start tactics ogre tomorrow

>>9719350
Golden Axe: The Duel
Final Fight Revenge
Virtua Fighter Remix
Virtua Fighter Kids
All Japan Pro Wrestling featuring Virtua
Power Instinct 3: Groove On Fight
Dark Legend
Astra Superstars
Puyo Puyo Sun
Radiant Silvergun
Guardian Force
Cotton 2
Cotton Boomerang
Die Hard Arcade
Batman Forever: The Arcade Game
Decathlete
Winter Heat
Steep Slope Sliders

>>9719443
Why would you ever play a dungeon crawler for the writing? The labyrinth design is anything but mediocre.

>>9719310
>shooters
The only one I ever liked was Einhander for the PS1. They're just not my thing. I like RPGs and racing games.

The real crime is it's coming with Virtua Cop 1 and 2, a lightgun and I don't have a space for a crt

I hate this satiatior so much it's unreal.

>>9719662
My early fenrir has been fine since I got it, no complaints

>>9719626
Give em a try, Einhander is well known but not for its quality

>>9719536
If you were a game reviewer what scores out of 10 would you give decathlete and winter heat?

I just got one of these. What can I and should I play with it?

About to play burning rangers. I don't have too much hope. I feel like it's going to be really short. Seems to be a trend with a lot of great stuff on Saturn. Also getting a wireless controller so I can play on my projector in bed. All my retro goes through retrotink and then HDMI doubled in the living room and bedroom. Curious how Saturn will look on that kind of display. Planning to play phantasy star 1 on sms via Genesis next. Maybe someone could convince me to play on Saturn instead.

>>9719716
My wife just got really excited when she saw that image LOL she loves arcade games

im on the process of falling in love with th SATURN. But not willing to buy games for the moment... Is SATIATOR a good idea? Love the packaging, but its kinda expensive

>>9719807
fenrir is cheaper if you're looking to save a buck

Is Clockwork Knight good? Recently I acquired a copy of it and I want to know if it's worth my time to play it.

I just played through Sonic 3D Blast again. It's a mediocre game as far as Sonic goes but I'm nostalgic for it. Saturn's special stages are the best in the series. I remembered recently how weird and difficult the PC version's special stages are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF5uKs8mz8I

>>9719819
It looks like decent shovelware

>>9719549
>Why would you ever play a dungeon crawler for the writing?
I wouldn't! Which is why it constantly trying to force its terrible story on me is annoying! Do it like an actual good game! Darkness ALREADY DID THIS BETTER A DECADE EARLIER!

>The labyrinth design is anything but mediocre.
Compared to fucking what? Japanese dungeon crawlers like SMT and Etrian Odyssey and Dark Spire sure kicked its fucking ass. Western classics like Eye of the Beholder, Wizardry 6 and Ultima Underworld sure had better dungeon design. What's the bar here? What are you comparing it to? Buck Rogers???

My Saturn really struggles to load certain burned games, specifically Resident Evil which loads the menu but black screens 80% of the time after selecting Jill or Chris or loading a save, I've tried both the PAL and NTSC versions and writing at several different speeds (Verbatim disks) but they all have the same problem
I don't have any issues at all with genuine Saturn disks. What do you think the issue is? The laser is dying?

>>9719865
bad burns, use AWS

>>9719880
I have, along with burns at minimum and maximum speed

>>9719889
Burn speed should match what the media you're using is advertised with, make sure you're using trurip https://archive.org/download/SS_Arquivista

>>9719720
Does she get arcadey in bed?

Okay guys burning rangers sucks dick. There's so much latency and you can barely see what's happening with the graphics lol

>>9719938
I agree, they should've saved it for the Dreamcast the Saturn was all but dead by the time it came out anyway

>>9719865
Saturn is extremely picky with burn quality. You really need Taiyo Yuden or CMC Pro CD-R and a burner that burns at 4x or slower. Most drives made in the past 10 years bottom out at like 10-14x.

Been playing Panzer Dragoon Saga, pretty cool so far.

>>9719890
I've been using bin+cue. I think I need cloneCD to burn .ccd rips?
>>9719985
My drive does 8x and the Verbatim CD-Rs I use are manufactured by CMC. Some burns work fine, I got through Keio 2 and Bulk Slash but those require a lot less constant reading of the disk I imagine

>Always wanted a Saturn, never had one as a kid
>Wanted to get Burning Rangers as well
>MFW prices

Well I guess this'll have to wait until I'm not poor.

>>9720005
The Verbatim's that you can get at the store nowadays are bottom of the barrel trash. I had a ton of issues until I bought better media. Like I said, CMC Pro or new old stock Taiyo Yuden.

>>9720016
I tried this once and got the worst cds in my life, bettee just going to best buy and picking up what's on the shelf. Don't waste so much just get a Fenrir

>>9720016
*Verbatims

Also, 8x might be fine but you may get some cutscene skipping.

>>9720009
Why do you have to buy it? This is 4chan not the fuckin reddit

>>9719050
Been playing guardian heroes and virtual on mostly. Just bought a copy of Astal looking forward to it. I think we should have a recurring saturn Saturday night thread

>>9719253
saturnfags cope by saying "the saturn was the pc engine of its generation" even though the pc engine had actual good exclusives and several superior multiplats, unlike the saturn

>>9719253

>>9721121
Sonic R isn't a Saturn exclusive and it also fucking sucks

>>9721128
>refuses to feel the sunshine
>doesn't brighten up his day
Sorry anon, I wish you could feel it

>>9720840
I wish PC-E had as many good games as the Saturn. It's mostly bad RPGs and racing games.

>>9719050
>What are we playing brothers?
Magical Drop III
>Get any new hardware?
NO
>New games?
Magical Drop III
>New mods or working on any repairs?
NO. Works as is

>>9721342
Actually it's mostly hentai games.

>>9721493
That's PC-98

Been playing Last Bronx and Fighting Vipers mostly

>>9719157
Play asuka 120%. It's one of the best fighting games out there. Almost as good as sailor moon, but less broken

>>9719662
why?

Every time I play a level of burning rangers I need to turn it off and do something else when it's over. It's almost unplayable performance wise

>>9721493
Your mom is mostly kusoge.

>>9719050
Have a Fenrir Duo in mine, but the installation wasn't as easy as I thought. Apparently some 21-pin models have the ribbon cable port on the motherboard facing the other direction than what the Duo expects, so I had to twist the cable around very carefully like in this picture for my Saturn.
Still it's worth the price, 100% compatibility (multidisc you just power off and boot up the next CD, all Saturn games will save your progress as a countermeasure and when it detects the disc it starts up from where you're supposed to) and even works with my PSK all-in-one cart.
What really sold it was when the Grandia translation update came out last week and I just replaced the old folders on the SD card, it's just so convenient compared to burning new discs. Don't know what I'm gonna do with all those burned CDs I will never, ever need again.

>>9719662
>He bought a satiator

>>9719050
Alternating between Street Fighter Alpha 3 and Magic Knight Rayearth.
Alpha 3 is definitely my favorite SF and I've played it many times prior to playing the Saturn version, but it's always fun to pick up and play whenever.
As for Magic Knight Rayearth, it's been good so far. The dialogue is pretty alright for Working Designs standards (genuinely made me chuckle a few times) and the gameplay is neat, reminded me of 2D Zelda except your abilities are split amongst three people. It can be pretty annoying in certain areas where there are a lot of enemies, though. Also, I really like the diaries. What a fun way to recap the story, I wish more games did this.
Umi is best girl, by the way.

It is patently false that burning discs at a lower speed will provide a better or more stable burn. Only burn your discs at whichever speed your optical media defaults to or you will experience problems.

http://web.archive.org/web/20210701065931/http://www.emedialive.com/EM2000/starrett5.html

Playing panzer dragoon 2 now. This is an actual great game and not a meme unlike nights

The Satiator is an awesome concept but I refuse to pay $260 for something that doesn't have 100% compatibility.

>>9719309
It's arrived! Soon as the Switcher mod comes back in stock I'll get that and a transparent red shell.

>>9722451
I just picked up 1. I'm looking forward to playing it

>>9722516
>transparent red shell
Japanese Saturn is peak aesthetic, why would you replace this?

>>9719259
>Somehow it's my favorite console despite this, I guess scloosives dont m-ACK!

>>9719717
Saturn doesn't support sms resolution so the phantasy star 1 port has a border around it
It's a unique way to play it I suppose

>>9722532
Because transparent shells were peak technology. My Dreamcast is transparent blue.

>>9719259
>Somehow it's my favorite console despite this, I guess scloosives dont m-ACK!

>>9723579
>Enter thread
>wonder if auster is at it as per usual
>this is the last post
welp

>9719253
What kind of dumb retard specifically opens, reads, and posts in a thread about something he doesn't like?

>>9719717
>Planning to play phantasy star 1 on sms via Genesis next. Maybe someone could convince me to play on Saturn instead.

Unless you can read Japanese you're gonna have a difficult time.

>>9719050
>New mods or working on any repairs?

I'm looking around for places that will do an FRAM mod for me. I don't trust my own soldering skills to do it without fucking everything up. Once that's done I'm going to start Shining Force 3. I'm just paranoid about starting a long JRPG and having 100% of my progress saved on either volatile memory on the console or an almost 30 year old memory cart. I have a MODE so I can back up and restore saves, but still.

Outside of that, lately I've just been playing through Megaman X4 again.

Tempted to go through Panzer Dragoon Saga now that I have a Fenrir, wanna see what the hype is about. Does it still have issues with ODEs?

>>9723783
No, it runs fine on ODEs. May have problems with psuedo saturn carts however.

>>9723791
I just have a stock Action Replay cart, so that doesn't really affect me.
Unrelated but where can I find a Stunner for cheap? Wanna be able to play shit like Scud, Area 51 and that House of the Dead 1 port (I know the lattermost has issues but I'll take it over the remake or even PC port with a mouse)

>>9723793
I bought my stunner from Japan for about $20, they're really cheap there and they look cooler

>>9723793
>>9723796
Same. Most Jap shit is priced well and in pretty good to great condition. Jap kids take care of their stuff apparently. In comparison, NA and PAL consoles and accessories are usually 1.5x - 2x the price, scratched the hell and back, and stuffed full of old boogers. Japanese Saturn stuff is always the way to go, especially since you're a retard if you aren't using a PSK cart or an ODE.

> Case in point

I just pulled these from Ebay, on the left we have an American Model 2 with a third party controller and three worthless games for $230 including shipping.

On the right, for less than half the cost, we have a Japanese Model 2 with two controllers for $104 (with free shipping from fucking Japan). Even after dropping $40 on a 4-in-1 that works as a PSK cart or whatever you're still $90 ahead. I think normies just don't know how easy it is to play pirated games on the Saturn these days.

>>9723856
Right is a bulk seller though. Obviously still a better option than buying the NA console but that image is not the console you'll recieve, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns up severly yellowed and beat to fuck

>>9723871
That is the console you receive. You pick which one you want from the dropdown list.

I'd have to double check my order history but that might even be the same seller that sold me a pristine white Japanese model 2 with a controller, a white memory cart (which did have a "tan line"), and two games for $99 shipped back in late 2020.

>>9723882
>144 sold
It's a picture of the model & accessories you'll receive but not the exact console. You could get lucky and get a pristine one or get an old beat up one

>>9723871
Coincidentally, that's actually the seller I bought from a few months ago. Pic related (ignore the Ikeashit stand), it's in pretty damn good condition. Looking through the Japanese newspapers it was wrapped in was neat too.
I've never had a bad experience with JP sellers

>>9723887
>>144 sold
Yes anon, that seller has sold 144 Saturns TOTAL, from a list of individual consoles. You pick which one you want from the list, you see a picture of it, and the one in the picture is the one you get.

Are the retrobit controllers 100% compatible with original Saturn controllers?

Meaning, could I buy a cheap one for $20, then swap the internals from an original Saturn controller into the case from the retrobit controller? The translucent plastic one looks cool.

> Why not just use the retrobit controller instead?

The shoulders don't click the same way the original's do and it sets off my /vr/ autism.

>>9723896
Right, I was wrong then.
In my experience most bulk console sellers have a drop down list of various bundles they offer and have multiple available of each with a single picture representing them all

>>9719050
this was not our future

>>9723907
I found a reddit post that said the only interchangeable parts are the D-Pad, face buttons, start button and conductive pads. Apparently the cutouts for the shoulder buttons are in different places so you can't use the controller shell with original Saturn parts

saturn+fenrir? check
brooks dreamcast/saturn adapters? check
dual customized astro ciggy sticks? check

playin:
astra superstars
metal black
xmen vs street fighter
gekirindan
the mister is there too along with a gdemu-cast

>>9724039
Well, that's really fucking gay and it makes me sad.

On the upside, thank you for seeing that and letting me know before I started disassembling controllers.

which one has better driving games? DC or the Sat?

>>9724131
Dreamcast is much better for sim style driving games but both have great arcade style racers

>>9724104
>>9724039
>>9723907
redditors wrong again
wow

the parts arent 1:1 but if you already have a broken controller to pull from its fine

>>9724289
sauce on non-matching guts

been meaning to try out Dragon Force, how hard is it to get a grasp of the mechanics is there a learning curve?

>>9724338
I am also curious. I got my shit pushed in first battle ha.

Will that optimized port of SotN get a full translation? I never played it before and I'd play it on my Saturn if I knew what the fuck was going on

>>9724338
>>9724828
First time I played it I picked the main character knight guy and got my shit wrecked. Next time I picked the Samurai guy and had a really good time up until the endgame, which is kinda bullshit imo. I've heard the second one is much better, I'd love to play it one day, but the first one is.... alright. Memorable, at least.

>>9724985
But yeah, as I was saying, not a huge amount of depth imo. In fact, it wasn't as deep as I expected at all. You get the hang of how the numbers work and whether or not you'll win a battle very quickly.

>>9725001
Sweet thanks!

having a saturn would be cool but I don't have a crt to hook it upto

>>9725046
Neither do I, and it looks like shit compared to what it could look like, but it's better than shelling a couple hundred bucks minimum for le ebin vintage retro gayming TV that I don't have any room for anyway. You stop caring about it after playing for a while.

>>9725306
what are you hooking your saturn upto? i might just grab a "i guess it works" solution rather than getting a crt tv

>>9719310
>Burning discs is a great way to start, remember to use Automatic Write Speed (AWS.)
Well I have discs, a writer, and files. Any recommendations on program? I see imgburn and DiscJuggler in posts.

>>9725432
Imgburn is fine just turn off that jingle it does after a burn, search this thread for an archive of images

>>9725441
You da mvp

>>9725382
The same sort of flatscreen TV everyone has, what else? I'm not sure if there's an upscaling device out there or not but my TV still accepts analog inputs which is admittedly becoming less and less common.

>>9719050
>What are we playing brothers?
MF SEGA TOURING CAR CHAMPIONSHIP

>>9719253
>This console has nothing that's exclusive and worth playing
>stellar assault ss
you suck balls of steel

>>9723891
The western model 2 controller feels so much better to use than this this one
they must've changed a bit of the internals in it

>>9720840
I mean, it's not entirely wrong. The Saturn outsold the N64 in Japan

>>9725306
i have 9 CRTs and ive paid less than $120 combined for all of them

I kind of want to get a Saturn and a Dreamcast but I get nervous about the disk reader giving out over the years. What are the best ways to mod the console to work around the disk reader?

>>9719050
>Sega Saturn is completely deconstructed
>No one has burnt wobbles onto a CD, bypassing the need for a chip or pseudo kai

>>9726016
Look into ODE's, I don't know which is the best. I'm fine with using PSK and burnt cd-r's, I know the laser will eventually give out but replacement lasers are like $10 on AliExpress

>>9726032
I'm not spending more than $100 including the console to play 30yo games

>>9726036
Download an emulator then

>>9726041
But I want 240p on my Facebook marketplace CRT, AAAAAGH take me back to the GFC

>>9726032
thanks anon i'll look into it, i know lasers are pretty cheap to get but still I hate having to worry about it

>>9726019
>>9726032
>>9726036
>>9726041
>>9726047
Never mind, I live in Australia. Can't play NTSC games without blowing up my house with a step down converter

>>9726010
Why do you need that many

>>9726070
You can play NTSC games in your PAL Saturn with a Action Replay/Pseudo Saturn cartridge
They'll be unoptimized but they'll work, there's also a simple 60hz mod you could look into doing too if you want to get them running properly

>>9726032
Here is the lowdown on ODEs for anyone who is curious. There are three major options, the Fenrir, the MODE, and the Satiator (there are technically a couple more, but they're made by the GDEmu guy and his autism prevents him from being successful so they're basically impossible to find/outmoded anyway). All ODEs will reduce loadtimes, but the effect is very slight (the Saturn can only read data so quickly).

> Fenrir
The cheapest one (at around $140 plus shipping). Only supports MicroSD and seems to have more people bitching about problems and needing tech support than the other two, but it's a solid choice. You can install additional hardware that allows you to use both the CD-ROM drive and the Fenrir for both physical and digital versions of games, which sounds cool if you're not smart enough to realize that having an ODE means you don't need to use physical discs anymore. It doesn't support changing discs without rebooting, so multi disc games require you to save and reset before continuing, but that's not a massive deal since every multidisc game except maybe some random deeply obscure Japanese tentacle based visual novel supports saving before switching discs.

(cont)

>>9726109

> MODE
More expensive than the Fenrir at around $235 shipped from whatever European tax haven country they're using now. Its big selling point is that it can be used on a Saturn, Dreamcast, or (with some extra hardware) a PS1, but that's kinda retarded because no one is going to be swapping ODEs around in their systems. Bills itself as a more "premium" product, and it has fewer issues with compatibility/fewer people having issues and reporting them online. One nice thing is that it supports MicroSD cards, USB sticks, and SATA hard drives (although some mechanical hard drives might need a lead run to the Saturn's PSU to give it enough juice to run, but that's not an issue because for the purposes of seek times and heat generation you should be using an SSD anyway). The menu supports game covers, which looks really nice, but when using covers scrolling is slow as shit so if you have more than 10 or 12 games on your system you're better off just using a normal list view. Makes SJW faggots on reddit REEEEE because apparently someone who works for the company said something mean to them on twitter one time(?), so its honestly worth supporting the company for that reason alone.

> Satiator
The most expensive (around $275 shipped), its main selling point is that it doesn't require an installation, but instead is used in the Saturn's expansion slot (not the cart slot at the top, the slot at the back next to the battery), similar to a VCD card. This obviously means that you cannot run a VCD card and a Satiator at the same time, but I think there is only a single game that actually requires it, but it just has higher quality cutscenes and has a version available that does not require it. Has a barebones menu, but who gives a shit, it's just a menu. Works perfectly fine, and does not require you to open your console, so if you're too fucking stupid to know how to turn a screwdriver than this is the ODE for you.

(cont)

>>9726112

> TL;DR
If you want to step up into the wonderful world of ODEs than the Fenrir is a good choice, the MODE is a great choice, and the Satiator is retarded (literally just buy a pseudosaturn card instead and save yourself almost $250).

>>9726113
Pseudo still uses the disc reader, though. I guess for my purposes of being autistically fearful of disc readers I could still see Satiator having a place. Seems that MODE would be the best choice for me, though

>>9726109
I never see anyone have problems with fenrir.

>>9726116
True. Honestly it seems like the Saturn's CD-ROM drive is fairly high quality compared to some other consoles from the era. The PS1's had gears wearing out and people turning their consoles upside down, and the PS2 had the DRE fiasco, but pretty much every Saturn I've come across has still been trucking after almost 30 years. It never hurts to be prepared though.

ODEs are very easy to install, all you need is a screwdriver and maybe half an hour of time start to finish. Both Fenrir and MODE have pretty straightforward instruction manuals available online, and there are probably a million "how to" videos on youtube.

One thing I forgot to mention about the MODE though, you have to actually register the ODE to get firmware updates. It's not a huge problem since they're very infrequent and new ones ship with the latest firmware, but it's still something to know. Basically the creators are paranoid about their shit getting cloned, and if that happens don't want to have to waste time and resources helping people troubleshoot problems with their wish.com knockoffs, so I understand the reasoning. It's still kinda dumb though.

>>9726129
Only ever seen a couple of truly bad saturn drives, this was while importing ones literally described as junk. Even then, 3/5 worked perfectly or just needed a bit of touching up. I think they were provided by Victor and they seemed to provide quality parts.

>>9726129
Interesting. Thanks for the effortpost anon, I've been emulating Saturn games recently as I had never even heard of it growing up, the info is very helpful as I'm thinking about taking the plunge into buying a physical console

>>9726113
>>9726129
Do ODEs require a PSK or Action Replay cart to bypass the region lock?

>>9726070
60hz NTSC mod is insanely easy on the PAL saturn mate
you could also use a DC psu swap on NTSC models with no issues

>>9726136
No, but all in one carts are great for memory and also ram
They also allow for cheats if that's your thing

>>9723907
>swap the internals from an original Saturn controller into the case from the retrobit controller?
No they're slightly different
>The shoulders don't click the same way the original's do
The latest batch fixed this, in fact I've all but replaced my original controller with the retro bit one for any non-multicontroller games and even played through all of Rayman.

>>9723907
>The shoulders don't click the same way the original's do and it sets off my /vr/ autism.
if you had autism you'd know that the controllers have 3 different feeling shoulder buttons

>>9724338
Read the manual as always

>>9726016
Fenrir and GDemu Clone, these are not just the best options but also the easiest to drop in and play off from.

>>9726121
Search "Fenrir help" and "MODE help" on r/segasaturn and you'll see a massive delta. I'm assuming Fenrir sells a lot better since its almost $100 cheaper and that is part of why there are so many more reports, but still.

>>9726134
The stuff I've seen labeled as "junk" or "parts only" from Japan is usually equivalent to a 6 or 7 out of 10 here in the US. It's amazing how well most of them treat their /vr/ stuff.

>>9726136
No, it's easiest to just put the correct region disc image on your storage, but if for some reason you want a different region they can autopatch when booting.

The only exception to this is Die Hard Arcade, which reads the region from your BIOS instead. If you're playing the game on a Japanese console, regardless of what region the disc image is, it will still display the QTEs in Japanese. There is a patched version floating around that fixes this though.

>>9726137
Based. The Saturn is a really great system with a lot of fun games. It doesn't have the massive number of titles that the PS1 has, but it has some stuff that is pretty unique. If you're into arcade ports, fighting games, shoot 'em ups, or obscure Japanese flavored deep cuts than you should be in for a good time. It's also interesting to see versions of well known games that also hit other platforms that have differences or unique additions (stuff like SotN, Grandia, Duke Nukem 3D, etc). Make sure and check out the list of fan translated games, the majority of the console's games only released in Japan, but over the past few years we've been slowly getting new English versions of them released, which has been pretty great.

>>9726138
PAL Saturns are so expensive it'd be cheaper to burn my house down, a PAL PSU costs as much as an NTSC console. Think I'll just use a raspberry pi cause AI hear it plays 2D games fine

>>9726156
I imagine it's mostly installation woes, it's really a smooth sailing experience once it's all working. Plus there's plenty of shitty old rips like darkwater still floating around that can cause problems. I'm saying this as someone who has a fenrir from the second batch ever put out.

>>9726158
I just said buy an NTSC console and put in a DC PSU
didn't you read?

>>9726109
>>9726156
The most common problem I see for Fenrir is from people installing the wrong ribbon cable (or sometimes they have it facing the wrong way), and one edge case where a guy bought a ReSaturn PSU and blamed Fenrir for frying his console when it turns out he didn't buy an AC/DC power brick and instead bought a cable that went directly from the PSU to the wall outlet.

>>9726178
>and instead bought a cable that went directly from the PSU to the wall outlet.
jesus christ

>>9726169
And I just said the power supply is expensive didn't you read

>>9726183
it's like 40 usd

>>9726184
Yeah I don't want to spend that much just on freaking power supply, I'll just go with the raspberry pi

>>9726193
>raspberry pi
>Saturn
yeah, good luck

Yeah, I just play NTSC games on my unmodified PAL Saturn. I know it's not the optimal way to play most games but I grew up playing unoptimized PAL ports and didn't even know they were running slow and I still probably wouldn't notice the difference unless they're running side by side

>>9726215
its very easy and cheap to mod
all you need is some wire and a switch and do a tiny bit of soldering

>>9726231
I dunno I've looked into it before and saw people unsoldering pins on the VDP2 chip and making cuts in the board. At the end of the day I just enjoying playing games instead of worrying about getting the perfect experience

Besides these I've also got EVE: Burst Error, Machi, and Samurai Spirits

NiGHTS is fun of course. Trying to figure out which other of these are fun

>>9726263
> Street Fighter, the game
> of the movie
> of the game

>>9726274
Not him but that game will always be funny to me because of that

>>9726274
>>9726280
I remember that game being absoloutely trashed by Sega Saturn Magazine back in the day, and they were normally pretty forgiving. At best, it is considered playable but mediocre. At worse, one of the worst fighting games ever made. Never played it myself.

>>9726294
its not bad

>>9726294
Honestly SFTGOTMOTG isn't as terrible as everyone makes it out to be. It mostly suffered due to the digitized graphics looking really weird and Street Fighter Alpha already being on store shelves for over 2 months when it released in the US.

Capcom actually did the Saturn port themselves, its basically Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo with movie characters.

Speaking of the movie,

> The entire time they were filming in Thailand there was a threat of a military coup so the actors had to be shuttled around via speedboats in canals in the middle of the night by security forces.

> Based Jean Claud Van Damme spent the majority of his time during filming getting coked out of his skull (he estimates he was snorting around $10k worth per week, and this was in 1994 dollars) as well as railing the shit out of Kylie Minogue. He also frequently didn't show up on set or showed up extremely late.

> The explosives they rigged to blow up Bison's temple base were way more powerful than anticipated, and came very close to injuring a bunch of the main actors.

> Raul Julia, suffering from stomach cancer and dangerously underweight as a result, got busted for sneaking out at night so he could gamble in casinos.

> Even though the guy who played Sawada didn't speak English, Capcom initially insisted that he play Ryu, but relented after the director pushed back.

> Even though it got absolutely savaged by critics, it made 165 million dollars off of a 35 million dollar budget (again, in 1994 dollars).

The fact that the movie was made, how it got made, and how much money it made is absolutely insane. Here's Ming Na Wen's cameltoe.

>>9726294
>>9726302
>>9726348
Yeah, the arcade version of Street Fighter: The Movie is the shovelware. The console version was the good one. It's pretty much just SSF2T with digitized graphics a la Mortal Kombat

>>9726697
and Akuma

>>9726697
The arcade version is much funnier and interesting to play though. The amount of absurd moves and broken shit is hilarious. The console one just makes you wish you were playing proper SF2 instead.

>>9726780
yeah no

Anyone do an FRAM mod on their system?

I had a memory cart corrupt and wipe itself once, so now I'm overly paranoid about starting any long RPGs until I have a truly permanent save solution.

>>9728430
Yeah, it's nice. A battery is still required for the time, but it doesn't take all your saves with it anymore.

>>9728430
It's nice but all three current ODE solutions have the ability to backup your internal saves so it's not that necessary.

>>9721854
That, is fucking terrifying to look at. What model do you have? I have a US Model 2.
>What really sold it was when the Grandia translation update came out last week and I just replaced the old folders on the SD card, it's just so convenient compared to burning new discs.
If I don't have to do that to the ribbon cable, I'm sold.

>>9730375
Mine is a US model 1 21-pin. As for the ribbon cable don't worry, that's from a youtube video of some retarded frenchie know-nothing. I did mine very clean and carefully, nothing folded and the loop is secured to the RF shield with electrical tape. I also submitted the issue to their discord so the Fenrir guy should already be aware of it.

>>9726348
I really like the movie. It's fucking stupid but in a campy, fun way. Would be pretty shit without Raul Julia and to a lesser extent Ming Na Wen, though.

>railing the shit out of Kylie Minogue
I knew about the coke and that the crew fucking hated him for it, but I didn't know about this. Dammit Kylie.....

>>9726348
Damn, he got to plow that?

Sorry if this is poorly written, I just woke up after a ketamine binge

The Sega Saturn is my favorite console of all time:
1. Best versions of 2D fighting games, which are my bread and butter
2. Best versions of Neo Geo games without the ridiculous pricing, cheaper even than the Neo Geo CD
3. Amazing direct arcade ports that make their console equivalent redundant
4. Best looking big box games in the PAL region, but also beautiful Japanese jewel boxes in amazing condition due to Japanese sellers being incredibly open and honest about condition
5. As a Sega fan, the Saturn feels like the perfect amalgamation between Sega's heyday and downfall, Sega was firing on all cylinders for me
6. Most aesthetically pleasing console of all time, screams 90s with its square box look that reminds me of the Volkswagen Golf my mother used to drive me to school in
7. Entire library of games that I missed out on, and made me feel like a kid again discovering all these games that are targeted to my generation

>>9731447
Great post i feel similarly. It's just a fun system from a better time. The games were plug and play. No tutorials like n64 and psx were littered with in game

>>9731398
Those were better times!

>>9731447
I felt much the same way when I got into it, I play my PS1 tons but no interest in playing 64 any more. To me 64 games especially are bogged down with slow starts, but even PS1 games can be too. I don't have much free time but when I do the Saturn lets me make the most of it by having games I can just get into and play in less than a minute.

>>9731447
>Sega Saturn is my favorite console of all time:
Premium built quality too. Especially when compared to the flimsy playstation at the time.

>>9722889
not him but cringe

>>9724131
I'm glad you asked, its a tough choice, dreamcast has good more sim games and saturn has more acrade games, so it depends on what kind o racing game you like

Nothing has made me want to buy a NTSC Saturn more than playing through the PAL version Shining the Holy Ark. Holy fuck it's so SLOW

Relatively new Saturn owner here. Am I doing it right so far?

>>9732830
Yes. Nice collection by the way. I'm still waiting on my Saturn Kai cartridge to come in the mail.

Umm, Saturnbros? Bombermananon here. All I did was backup all of my save data to my action replay, now I'm getting this error message when I try to play Daytona USA. And just now, my Saturn stopped recognizing my action replay at all. I only /just/ got my AR and my japanese copy of Bomberman, I don't know what's going on.

>>9733107
must be the pins, try wobling the card and turn on the saturn

>>9732830
Get the Japanese Saturn stick, the microswitch stick helps a ton with inputs.

>>9733115
I'll try this the next chance I get to play, thanks. Probably in half an hour or so. I hope it works. If it works though, will I need to worry about the AR potentially disconnecting in the middle of playing a japanese game?
>>9733127
Oh, I'm not actually all that interested in arcade sticks. I was very lucky; a boomer sold me a Saturn bundle for a great price on a local craigslist-type site, which is the reason I started collecting Saturn stuff in the first place. The stick was part of that bundle. I wouldn't have bought that stick on it's own. I tested it with VF, and yeah, it's pretty shit. But it IS another controller for Bomberman. If I actually manage to get enough people over to play Saturn Bomberman that I actually need all 6 of my controllers, I'll settle for using the stick so that my guests can use the better controller options.

>>9733260
that happened to me once with an official save cartridge, almost had an heart attack
>puts the save cart
>turns the saturn on
>goes to memory manager
>no saves on the memory card
its normal, kinda like when you put a cartridge on a megadrive and all you get is a black screen
>If it works though, will I need to worry about the AR potentially disconnecting in the middle of playing a japanese game?
no, unless you hit ur saturn/cart or something

>>9733115
>>9733408
I've been wibbling, I've been wobbling, but every time I turn the Saturn on with the AR inserted, I keep getting this instead of the AR menu. I'm gonna keep trying, and if by some miracle it starts working, I'm never removing the cartridge again.

>>9733534
As a last resort you could try reflashing your Action Replay cart with Pseudo Saturn Kai
https://ppcenter.webou.net/pskai/howto/#flash_install

>>9733534
>I've been wibbling, I've been wobbling, but every time I turn the Saturn on with the AR inserted, I keep getting this instead of the AR menu. I'm gonna keep trying, and if by some miracle it starts working, I'm never removing the cartridge again
its gotta be the pins not connecting right
action replay cartridges are smaller compared to official cartridges
also don't wobble too hard and if it still doens't work clean the pins

>>9733534
>>9733546
this, but anon is going to lose his files and the save capability

>>9731802
My hill that I will die on is that the original conversion of Daytona is better than CCE due to it looking, sounding and feeling more like the arcade game. Car handling is so much more satisfying.

Thank fuck, I finally got it working again. I guess I wibble wobbled it just right. I never want to remove this cartridge again. However, I read that it's possible to mod an AR to play burned discs, but that means overwriting it's ability to backup saves, meaning I'd need a memory card or a 2nd AR to do that, meaning that I'd need to swap cartridges occasionally. Is it normal for these cartridges to be so sensitive?

>>9733408
>If it works though, will I need to worry about the AR potentially disconnecting in the middle of playing a japanese game?
>no, unless you hit ur saturn/cart or something
Thank fuck, it'd be embarrasing if my copy of Bomberman started fucking up in the middle of a good session with friends, all because I wanted to save some $ by importing the japanese disc.

>>9733629
It's just the cartridge slot sucking, you gotta clean the carts whenever they act up like that.

>>9733629
You should look into getting a 4in1 Pseudo Saturn cartridge off Aliexpress.
It let's you play imports, burned games, works as a backup memory cartridge and a 1/4MB RAM cartridge. You can install the PSK firmware on your Action Replay cart guide linked here >>9733546 but I'm not sure of the funcionality of it installed on a AR cart

>>9733657
>funcionality
*functionality

>>9733581
i prefer the look of cce but I have to admit the saturn port of daytona usa is closer to daytona arcade
t. played the arcade daytona usa on a twin cabinet
cce physics are nice but its a different thing, see it as daytona usa 2

>>9733629

>Is it normal for these cartridges to be so sensitive?
yes they are smaller and wobble alot in the cartridge port
Thank fuck, it'd be embarrasing if my copy of >Bomberman started fucking up in the middle of a good session with friends, all because I wanted to save some $ by importing the japanese disc
I think jap discs are coller

>>9733646
its not, its cartridge fault, they use a weird mold

>>9733646
My AR is brand new. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to keep the pins clean though.
>>9733693
> I think jap discs are cooler
I agree. These are the only games I have in their original packaging. The japanese games definitely look nicer.

SOVL

Are there any truly awesome and great Jap only games? The Saturn blew everyone's tits off there right? What were the games that rocked their worlds?

>>9734008
Going off sales, the Japan only games that were most popular there would be Sakura Wars 1 and 2, Grandia, Evangelion, Devil Summoner, Soul Hackers, Tokimeki Memorial, Super Robot Wars, etc.

>>9734008
I really like Taomaru but I don't think it was popular

>>9734014
The company that published it apparently went out of business during the first print run. Apparently less than 7k copies were made.

>>9734015
That's a shame, I recommend it if you like a MD game called Alisia Dragoon, fairly similar

>>9725475
Get a retrotink 5x upscaler

>>9734030
>Get a retrotink 5x upscaler
If they're ever in stock

>>9734082
When isn't it? It's in stock right now

>>9734090
He was sick for a week or two and wasn't making more. Now he's back and everyone is trying to cum out of one penis all at once and he's gotta milk it back down to flaccid. So that's pretty much the scoop on today's 5x market

>>9722516
I'll buy that original shell off you if you reshell it. Honestly I wouldn't do that the grey shell looks nice.

I've had a mode in my Saturn for a couple years now and it works fine enough. Just bought a Fenrir Duo to swap it out with. Should I sell the Mode or install it in my Dreamcast instead? I currently use a clone gdemu in that but Mode seems better for Dreamcast. Thoughts?

>>9734324
To be honest my thoughts are on why you would take a functioning ode out to swap it for another one

>>9734384
He might be one of the retards who fell for the "I can use physical discs and an ODE at the same time!!!" meme.

I can't really think of any other reason why someone would spend $150 solely to replace a perfectly good mode with a fenrir.

>>9734324
Do you have the latest GDEMU firmware?
if so I'd recommend selling the mode
however I don't know the details with Terraonion license transferring

>>9733581
it's daytona CE in the pic, not CCE. it's an updated version with improved physics
but i still don't like how the cars look, drawing distance be damned i still prefer the original

Thanks for the help last night Saturnbros.

>>9734384
>>9734414
Not the latest firmware on the chink gdemu, but it works fine. I was actually going to either sell the gdemu or give it to a friend of mine along with a spare Dreamcast I have.

>>9734407
I don't give a fuck about physical discs, real or burned discs. I didn't buy a Satiator retard.

>>9734946
ur welcome saturnchad

>>9719064
>hyperduel
I didn't know about this game.
thank you!

>>9735407
It's a Technosoft game, all their games are great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lr7Maw59c4

>>9735831
That 32bit Yngwie song is peak SOVL

Would you call me an aged video-game-player, doctor?
The Saturn is not old; no one would call her old.
She has a bluff set of I/O ports, lovely case design.
She's a fine console: quadrilateral, dithered, and fast... very fast, if she's well handled.

No, she's not old; she's in her prime.

Death Crimson bros..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvFNLIyWwkk

>>9736847
>sega lord x
that fat faggot should khs because he whines about everything

also this
https://youtu.be/r--bzPl1RHA

>>9737063
I hate that retard. Fucking guy dismisses RE1/2/3 while sucking off that piece of shit Code Veronica

>>9737063
>>9737079
Not watching the video but is he shitting on the game?
Or just the fact it’s not even close to the arcade version

Decided to pick up one of these USB saturn controllers for emulation instead of buying the Japanese saturn on ebay that I have been eyeing. It would be cool to own the actual console but I convinced myself that it wasn't worth all the money I would spend on console + ODE

>>9737090
idk about that video but i used to watch his videos and i had to stop because the guy is a fucking retarded boomer who shits on everything.
he sounds like a /v/ fag

>>9737090
also death crimson isn't good, so maybe he is shitting on it or maybe he went full hipster and likes the game because everyone else hates it

I'm Sega Lord X, and I WILL catch you next time.

>>9737148
Have you played death crimson on Saturn?
It’s not very good, at least hotd is passable

>>9737157
HotD is a good and faithful port of the arcade game (like Daytona), it just looks like garbage (like Daytona),

>>9737106
Is the dpad on that good? I bought a 8bitdo M30 which seems solid that I use for Saturn emulation.

>>9737170
I haven't received mine yet, but the reviews I read said that it is pretty close to the original japanese d-pad on the saturn. Fingers crossed.

>>9737063
>Spnic 3d fucking sucks because its just a genesis game
>But "I Love Mickey Mouse" on the Saturn is great
Yeah he has biased opinions

>>9737170
It's okay, but it's not as good as the d-pad on a real japanese saturn controller. Sorry to disapoint you.

>>9737286
yeah hes a fucking manchild

>>9733694
What mold?

>>9719865
Ignore anyone who says bad burns, calibrate the laser, then the console will read damn near everything including bad burns.

>>9732830
>bomberman
I'll bring the bros and some more controllers

>>9733534
>if by some miracle it starts working
that's when you stuff some paper into the side of the slot that's more empty to hold the cart in that exact position

Sega Lord X clearly has autism

>>9737731
No Saturn 3D pad.
>I am disappoint but the rest of that collection is cool

>>9719050
Been playing Code R (Poorly with my phones camera translator) and Dragon Force. I was emulating Policenauts but now I want to play it on OG hardware but I might wait until I get a CRT so I can use a lightgun.

Also, whoever asked me why I would change out the shell on a model 1 JPN Saurn, you were right. In person it is far too sexy to get a 3rd party translucent case. Those oval buttons *chef kiss*

>>9737862
whats ur thoughts about code r?

>>9737954
I like it. I'm a sucker for 90s anime and cars. It definitely captures the vibe of the era. The racing is fun and the car tuning was a pleasant surprise. I'd give it an Enjoyable/10.

>>9735232
>I don't give a fuck about physical discs, real or burned discs. I didn't buy a Satiator retard.

Fenrir can use physical discs as well as a microsd card with some extra hardware you saturnlet

>>9738493
Yeah but I doubt anyone who wants to retain the optical drive will buy Fenrir and extra hardware when Satiator out of the box does that you fucking retard. Besides this was installed in Saturn I bought with a dead disc drive 20 years ago.

Does anyone here know if Dynamite Deka and the japanese version of Mr. Bones are playable for someone like me who doesn't know japanese?
>>9737731
Right on Bomberbro! With our powers combined, we could host two seperate games of Bomberman with 13 players total. That bomberman-themed multitap is rad.

>>9726263
Super Robot Wars F and F Final are considered some of the best in the series, they're also in the top 10 Best selling Saturn games in Japan.
You can carry your F save file to F Final, so both are really just one long ass super robots epic. Also among the hardest in the series.
If you like mecha anime, it's a no brainer. Masterpiece.

>>9719253
Legend of Oasis

>>9738878
/m/fag here, got any other cool mecha related games on Saturn? I know there's the side story Gundam games which look like fun also.

I picked up a Saturn not too long ago, along with Daytona USA and Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game. I wanted to get Panzer Dragoon and Sonic R but holy shit are they expensive. Is the price of Saturn games purely because of how hard the system flopped? I remember a time when no one even wanted old Sega games.

>>9739660
Lockdown made everyone retarded. Saturn game prices have gone insane since COVID

>>9739660
>Is the price of Saturn games purely because of how hard the system flopped?
It contributed I suppose, it means less supply of games which makes prices skyrocket when demand appears
>I remember a time when no one even wanted old Sega games.
Yeah during the 2000s I remember the saturn section at my local game stores being really cheap for the most part. Only saga was expensive but it was like 100 euros.

>>9739660
low supply, hoarders, shills like SLX and free biden bux

>>9739491
Bulk Slash
Assault suit Leynos 2
Sakura Taisen games
Virtual on
I’m sure there are more but that’s what I know off the top of my head

>>9739491
>>9739937
Also:

- Gungriffon series
- MechWarrior 2
- Amok
- Robotica (not good)
- Ghen War (also not good)

>>9740000
cogradultion

>>9740004
?

>>9738586
Don't lash out at me with your impotent retard rage because I corrected you.

>>9739660
Get a Pseudosaturn cart or an ODE. The only people who are buying physical Saturn games these days are omega level idiots and pathetic losers who spend hundreds of dollars on 30 year old games solely to post them on r/segasaturn for updoots.

>>9740353
>Get a Pseudosaturn cart or an ODE. The only people who are buying physical Saturn games these days are omega level idiots and pathetic losers who spend hundreds of dollars on 30 year old games solely to post them on r/segasaturn for updoots.
I do have a PSK cartridge and a CD burner, I just like having the 'real' version of games too. I like talking about games when people come over to my house and it's nicer when I have something to show that isn't a Memorex CD-R with sharpie on it. I'm not going to deny there's a level of autistic gratification over emulation/burning, I just wish people weren't raping this hobby for profit.

>>9740353
>Get a Pseudosaturn cart
i didnt even know you can play burned games with just the action replay, damn

>>9740353
lmao poorfag is mad he can't buy real games and has to burn on shitty discs that will eventually damage the optical drive

>>9740540
>you can play burned games with just the action replay
I don't want to sound like the guy who says actchually, but you can't play burned games with an action replay, you have to instal pseudo kai on ur ar cartridge

>>9740353
You didn't even correct anybody, you literally did an incorrect assumption and defended yourself by acting like a smug retard. Seriously get a life, burn your discs (or don't I don't care). Fucking retard.

>>9741629
I corrected you, you dumb faggot. Now I'm doing it again.

>>9740682
> poorfag
People who are too stupid to be able to install an ODE always fallback on this argument. It doesn't make you look smart or cool, it makes you look terminally ASSBLASTED because people can get the exact same experience you wasted hundreds of dollars for for the cost of a single CDR.

(for the record I used a 4-in-1 with pseudosaturn firmware for about a month and then decided to order an ODE)

>>9740540
Yeah, it's been a thing for a while. For like $40 or $50 plus a few minutes burning a CDR you can get the exact same experience as retards who spend $1,000 on PDS or whatever.

Ultimately I'd still recommend getting an ODE down the line, but a PSK cart is still a great way to get access to the entire Sega Saturn library.

>>9741908
>People who are too stupid
>faggot just watched a tutorial on utube
bro i also hack

Is astal actually anything special? The YouTubers love that one but it looks really bland to me. Is it actually a great platformer?

>>9742627
Its ok

Can a fellow PALpleb advise me on what power converter I need to use a NTSC-J Saturn? Do I need one of those big transformer boxes or one of those small plug adapters? Also every converter I see is rated for 110/120v but Japan is 100v.

>>9742961
Ot should I get this replacement PSU
https://kaicolabs.com/product/sega-saturnpsu-board-and-psu-12v-power-supply-replacement-kit-for-sega-saturn/

>>9742627
>>9742686
All Saturn games are free if you're not stupid, so you should play it and see for yourself.

"Its ok" is a pretty good descriptor. It's worth playing to see the Saturn doing some neat spritework, but it's not a system seller or anything.

>>9742961
Something like this is fine

>>9743691
You sure? Even though it's 110v?

>>9740353
People are better off with an ODE than a Pseudosaturn Cart. I played this game on a Japanese Sega Saturn, huge problem occurred when my Saturn was reading the disk, it made this loud clicky noise. Which doesn't happen with the official Sega Saturn discs. When I played it on CD-R, the screen would flicker or go static. The screen also went red when I tried to use cheats. So I'd only recommend an ODE or a Satiator. Also you sound like a poorfag getting salty over people buying official discs. It's their money, they can spend it however they want.

>>9745325
>It's their money, they can spend it however they want.
Not him but I hate this collector trend precisely because I want to buy physical games from my childhood but everything is inflated as fuck because of soiboy youtube collectors buying up shit they don't need or care about solely for the sake of collecting.

>>9745338
>Only I should be allowed to collect video games!
It's not the same copy you had as a child you're just as bad as the "soiboy youtube collectors"

>>9745338
I understand that & I hate that some of the games I want are pricey as fuck. Which is why I tried going for a reproduction copy. But I think reproduction carts are better than reproduction discs because these burned CD-R reproductions are useless. I am certainly buying a Satiator.

>>9745345
I don't think him or anybody is trying to buy the "same copy", unless you're an autist, that shit really doesn't matter.

>>9745345
>Only I should be allowed to collect video games!
I never said that, are you schizophrenic?
> you're just as bad
I don't buy copies of games I have no nostalgia for just for bragging rights. So no.
>>9745348
I was thinking of repros but they look kinda shitty. I would need something to be 1:1 to really consider it.

>>9745467
The CD-R repros are definitely shitty, the cover to RE repro I have is made of paper. I prefer a vinyl sticker at the very least. The cover is printed on cardboard, very low quality print at that. The repro cart I have of Genesis & SNES games are way better.

>>9745496
What about the quality of the games themselves? Are they the same as the originals? Although since I'm mostly interested in 5th gen onwards I guess I'm out of luck

>>9745515
Cartridge games as far as I can tell, yes. 5th gen & beyond, not as good. But I would suggest looking at reviews for the 5th & 6th gen repros before buying because the quality might be different from the one I bought.

>>9745467
>Muh nostalgia
This is no better an excuse for buying a video game than bragging rights

>>9745708
>Buying games just to show off how big your collection is the same as buying a game because you loved it and have nostalgic feelings for it
yeah okay retard.
>>9745595
Cheers I'll check it out. Not quite the same as owning the original but if I can find something that plays the same and looks almost as good I'll take that over paying $800-$1000

I'm playing bulk slash eng patched, its so gud but
should I get the saturn mecha controller?
is it compatible with every game?

I KNEEL

>>9746380
The Saturn has plenty of good games and this isn't one of them

>>9719819
I enjoyed the fuck out of that game as a kid but as a grown ass man no, no I can't recommend Clockwork Knight

>>9746384
FAGGOT

>>9746396
Acquire taste instead of slurping down whatever Sega Lord X tells you is good

>>9746403
lmao stupid faggot zoomer

>>9746384
Gotta agree. Im playing it for the first time recently and its impressive for the hardware and i can see the bits that acted like a prototype for the Adventure games, but it feels like the theming of it doesn't match what they made. Probably would have been more interesting to just remove the fire fighting aspect and make it a full mega man-y action game. Boss fights are the most interesting parts, but even they are not fantastic. I will finish the last 2 missions and likely not touch it again for a long while except to maybe show a friend.

>>9719050
Why did the N64 hold up so much better than the Saturn?

>>9746421
multiplayer + mario

>>9746392
I recently played it through for the first time and I enjoyed it. Its short and easy, only takes 1-2 hours on first try. I think its worth playing at least once.

>>9746384
This. how defuk are we supposed to believe br is good

the only faggots who say the game is good are retarded utubers like>>9746403 hipsters faggots and others faggots who never played the game and just watched 5min of gameplay on the webs and said "oh pretty lighting, therefore is gud"

>>9746403
I usually call him "Sega Cringe-lord X"

>>9746421
>bad res
>bad frame rate
>shittiest controller ever made
>no online
>blurr
>no games
>ports that are better elsewhere
>battery saves
>worst analog stick ever made
>snes music
>no analpg triggers
n64 was never good and is a disgrace to the 5th gen

>>9746426
It was one of my favorite US Saturn games long before that guy was even making youtube videos. It's a fun and unique 3D platformer on the system and has a lot of similar vibes that PSO has on the Dreamcast.

What's the appeal of this one? Do you need to be a fan of the cartoon to enjoy it? I'm playing the jap version and its just a bunch of dialogue mashing broken up by some average playing linear action segments on bland maps and all around doesn't feel that much better then shining wisdom. I can't imagine the English version makes it much better. Does it open up more like a zelda game or atleast Ys further in?

>>9746507
because its expensive, dickhead

too bad hey havent found a cure for fuckfaceitis

>>9746507
nice and fun top down action in a world full of fun characters with swell music. Not every game needs to be a genre defining masterpiece.

>>9746541
But most of the levels are really uninteresting. I get it as an ok game if you were a jap in 95 or whatever when it came out and it certainly looks nice, but i don't see why saturn fans in the west have been praising it as a top 10 game while ignoring something like legend of oasis.

>>9746549
I haven't seen a single person that holds it in especially high esteem, most people seem to just like it. It's OK for games to be alright.

>>9746561
Not disagreeing with you. Maybe the online hype for it has mellowed out or people raving about it being a saturn must play were only going off of what the west got or a small sampling of games.

>>9746567
I've literally never seen anyone rave about it as if it's some legendary game, it's just a novel and fun title. I've been knee deep in saturn discussion for 10 years and at the most it earns a "oh, great game." from somebody.

>>9745325
>astal
> anyone who isn't retarded enough to spend hundreds of dollars on games they could play for free is a poorfag

No, you're just fucking stupid.

>>9746540
Hey anon, how's the boy?

>>9746432
Honestly I think Nintendo could have released a pile of dog turds in a box back in the mid 90s and it would have sold like crazy in the US as long as it had a Mario game when it launched.

The thing that makes me chuckle the most about the N64 and its lack of games is that if you ask 10 Snoys what the 10 best games on the PS1 are you'll get 10 completely different lists. If you ask 10 Segafags what the top 10 games are on the Saturn you'll get a fairly varied set of lists with 4-5 common games (most likely stuff like VF2, Sega Rally, and Daytona). If you ask 10 Nintoddlers what the ten best games on the N64 are you're going to get a list comprising entirely of

> Mario 64
> Ocarina of Time
> Majora's Mask
> GoldenEye
> Perfect Dark
> Smash Bros
> Starfox
> Banjo Kazooie
> Mario Kart
> F-Zero

every single time, without fail.

>>9746698
Sorry to hear that you're broke, living on minimum wage. The reality is nobody is stupid for spending money on whatever game they want. You're just broke.

>>9719536
>Power Instinct 3: Groove On Fight
NTA, but IIRC this port is missing frames.

>>9746570
On YouTube, it's a top shelf Zelda experience must play game for Saturn owners. There's a lot of horseshit on there and it's a mixed bag on what actually holds up

>>9722458
what's it not compatible with?

>>9747062
Nope

>>9747062
do you watch metal jesus?

>>9742961
beware of pal games having issues on ntsc consoles
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://randomisedgaming.tumblr.com/post/146372446412/the-complete-european-sega-saturn-60hz-guide-to&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjihffGm-P9AhXcVaQEHWEeB3cQFnoECAQQAg&usg=AOvVaw0XlkbQNMztD_ahQxwHyK3p

>>9747427
Of course, I still have my PAL console. I just want an NTSC console for unoptimized games and Japan exclusives

>>9737106
I Don't blame you anon, I didn't realize how much of a snowball it would be to absolutely pimp out my Saturn, I recommend everyone who's slightly interested in the Saturn to just emulate. Also retro bits are very good, but 8bitdo sells boards for the OEM Saturn controllers that make them Bluetooth. I can say with confidence that oems are probably one of the best feeling controllers ever put into production.

How necessary is the racing wheel for Daytona USA? It looks pretty janky, but AFAIK it's the only way to play the game with analog control.

>>9748431
The wheel is good but I prefer playing it with the normal non analog controller. It just works.

>>9748450
Cool. I grew up playing the original Ridge Racer on PS1, so I'm used to playing these kinds of racing games with a d-pad, I'm just not sure if Daytona is optimized for one or the other.
>>9742627
I played through Astal recently, and I agree with the other anons. It's okay. It's worth your time, and worth a blank CD, but I wouldn't pay too much for a real copy.

Composite or RGB?

>>9746507
This is one of my favorites. You don't need to know anything about the series to enjoy it. If you like 2D Zelda games you'll probably like it.

>>9722451
>He got filtered by NiGHTS
lmao

>>9719050
>play saturn game
>save to console
>feel like it will delete next time I play
>take out action replay and put in official cart
>copy it to official cart
>take it out and put back in action replay
I don't know what's wrong with me. I could get the 4in1 but I don't feel like waiting for a month

When ahead and bought an NTSC Japanese Saturn. My PAL Saturn RGB SCART cable won't work on it right? I'll need something like this
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/saturn/SEGA-SATURN-RGB-SCART-PACKAPUNCH-PRO-CABLE

Went*

>>9746732
From what I've read it's missing frames and a lot of the combos are totally different. It's probably wiser to treat it as a different revision from the arcade version, though it's still beefy for a Saturn game. Vampire Savior is another game considered arcade perfect even though it has resolution and frame differences as well as different characters available. Doesn't stop me from loving it though.

>>9751881
> Vampire Savior is another game considered arcade perfect even though it has resolution and frame differences as well as different characters available.
All CPS1 and CPS2 ports have resolution differences because those boards run at an odd resolution of 384x224. The closest you can get to on Saturn is 352x224 which is what all those ports run at. They kept the assets untouched though and the games still play as though they are at 384x224. All that happens is more of your character goes off screen when you back as far away as possible.

As for frame differences I've never seen any evidence of Vampire Savior having differences in frames. As far as I'm aware they're all there. And the only character difference is they added 3 characters to the game that weren't there in the original. I wouldn't really consider that a hit against it, it's no different than future ports and versions of Alpha 3 adding more characters.

>>9751895
I think you're right in that I goofed some information. I tried to find the reference to the info about the frames and move changes and this is what I found. Nothing specific at all. The most I can recall is something with Talbain's kick working differently. The PSX version has cut frames except for mirror matches. The Dreamcast version is a neat idea that messes with life and damage values. The PSP game is that but with a single player mode. The PS2 collection has a weird bonus character.
Also a big fan of Fighters Megamix. It's got a mess of franchise crossover and my wife somehow always stomps my shit at it. 10/10 would recommend.

>>9751996
It would be nice if they had a break down of what was wrong with the different versions.

Most of the time though it seems the tournament scene throws a fit about certain glitches or unbalanced gameplay in the Arcade version being fixed in the home console releases.