/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9656508

I put a razer kishi on my Motorola 2 weeks ago. One of the most common complaints about it, is that is wobbly, but on my phone which is 2mm over the recommended length, it's super snug.

I got chinked on ordering a Miyoo Mini (they literally closed their aliexpress shop the day after they took my order), and I can't justify 200 bucks on a toy right now, the Kishi was 20 bucks off on amazon (because version 2 is out) so I picked it up and it's been awesome.

That said, its too bulky to be an EDC or DD, but is super cozy for laying in bed, smashing out some PSP and snes.

>>9656508
I've recently homebrewed my first console (a PSP I had lying around) and at this moment I'm playing Tekken 3 and Kula Quest on it. I've recently ordered an Anbernic RG505 that is slowly crawling it's way to where I live. I'm also considering buying a Steam Deck in the future.

Rg353m, it's pretty good

I finally got my Powkiddy A12 and it is absolute fucking megakino holy shit. For the one sole other anon that was curious about this thing I'll post more thoughts tomorrow when I'm not so fucking tired. I really hope this thing doesn't immediately explode in infamous POWkiddy fashion because I am seriously in love with it and fear I'd have to buy another.

>>9656659
oh I've been looking into getting a kishi. I have a Galaxy S10e that has shitty battery life, and I've been thinking of turning it into a handheld when I get my replacement phone

I just initiated the RP3+ system update and it's been on the "Upgrading... Please wait!" screen for like 5 minutes. Is it over?

>>9656508
Forgot the subject, genius.

>>9657571

I definitely put it in there when I was making the thread but it didnt appear

I have an RG350M which is about perfect for me. Ideally I could play retro VNs on it but that's obviously outside the scope of these handheld emulators.

>>9657607
You put it under options maybe?

>>9657682

shit, yes probably

>>9656508

How do you get those purple/pink buttons for the blue retroid pocket?

>>9658146
They sell various components at their store including sticks, Dpad, buttons and upgrade kit

>>9658212

How hard is it to open up the system and swap them? I couldnt find much on youtube

>>9658293
>couldnt find much on youtube
anonymous pls
https://youtube.com/watch?v=osc7Wud07G4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HfjzK3JY9fQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Sxl_HofdTBs
https://youtube.com/watch?v=c-ol6BKXwvs

>>9656508
Currently have RP3+, but have been playing it less and less. The ergonomics are starting to bother me, and the buttons aren't as nice as the anbernic ones especially the d-pad.

Ordered and eagerly awaiting the KT-R1. If it is everything it appears to be and built with decent quality, it will be my ideal device. The slightly rounded design looks far more comfortable than my RP3+, and the face buttons are my perfered style. As soon as it arrives, I'm breaking it in with a playthrough of the Crash and Spyro trilogies.

If I wanted to play GB, GBC, GBA, DS games is a homebrew DS, DSi, or DS lite the best options? Are there good, stable options for the 3DS that has them all?

>>9658471
DS or DS Lite would do everything to a high standard, but only with a GBA flashcart.
DSi must use a hypervisor for GBA with so-so results.
3DS does all of those perfectly but the screen filtering options may put you off.

>>9658474
God damn if only Nintendo had made the 3DS screens a 2x vertical integer scale of the DS, it would be such a fucking good device for Nintendo's full handheld library. As is the screen just ruins the whole thing

>>9658474
>>9658474
>DS or DS Lite would do everything to a high standard, but only with a GBA flashcart.
Just in case it's not obvious, you'd need a DS flashcart too, and GB/GBC still has some minor emulation issues that you wouldn't have on a 3DS from what I remember.

>>9658474
>3DS does all of those perfectly but the screen filtering options may put you off.

Got any examples of this? I think some this stuff I can live with unless it's pretty awful.

>>9656997
That looks tight but I hate the screen's aspect ratio. Do they make a 4:3 model?

>>9658584
this
i will never understand the retardation
set the settings to 4:3 out of the box
put a plastic bezel hiding the rest of the panel

wow done good job
even the gbc ips q5 does this
the rest of the screen is used to change the gbc logo colors


its not that fucking hard

henlo faggots
anyone else doing chiptune?
>>9656508
i try to use original hardware when i can
im not too opposed to the ips screen replacements, however
i make sure to keep an unmolested variant around as well


daily drivers = analog pocket+pc engine cd core \ neogeo
psp3000
psvita
3DS

i sold my gameboy micro
but i think im going to repurchase it because i miss it, it must be mental illness - its objectively terrible

>>9658483
You can still play GBA & DS games at native resolution on the 3DS, get a XL so it has a nice size.

>>9658685
this
i dont know why people sperg about muh resolution scaling on a 1.5 inch screen
its so comically small on the launch model 3ds you literally cannot see the difference anyway

i played and beat plenty of nes, gg, genesis, snes titles, etc

its ok for a china copycat to use a 16:9 shitty retroarch build but when official hardware has built in (optional) scaling people lose their minds


the 3ds and ds are godtier. period.

>>9658701
nah they're both shittier. period.

>>9658362
I'm in a similar boat. I have the RP2+ but would like something with a better, bigger screen and the d-pad at the top. The KTR1 looks perfect apart from the shoulder buttons, but I can't get over how its priced the same as the Odin but is less powerful.

>>9658827
if the nintendo handhelds are "shittier"
then everything else in the thread is even worse

>>9658542
>Got any examples of this? I think some this stuff I can live with unless it's pretty awful.
the 3DS screen resolution is a bad match for the DS (400x240 vs 256 x 192) you either have to display the game tiny but pixel perfect or you will get scaling blur. Pic not my own

>>9659017
why buy the huge XL/LL model then?
show ds on a launch model 3ds instead of being misleading
the resolution shown is NOT the default

>>9658891
For me, its the size. The KT-R1 and likewise the RP3+ are far easier to carry and take anywhere. Dimensions-wise, the KT-R1 is extremely close to the PSP which is a device I carried for a long time and love the size. The Odin is just too big and I would only use it at home, and since I have a steamdeck I have no reason to get one.

If size is not a concern for you, then Odin is probably a better way to go.

>>9658891
Isn't it just made by one guy? The higher than normal price at least makes sense there unlike the Anbernic tax.

>>9659029
>why buy the huge XL/LL model then?
The xl models are often cheaper. Not sure why anyone bought them in the first place.

>>9659029
>show ds on a launch model 3ds instead of being misleading
The screen resolution is the same, you will have just as much black space.

>the resolution shown is NOT the default
The default is possibly even worse, at least for non 3d games. I did mention there were two modes.

My RP3+ is coming tomorrow. Any suggestions on PSP games I should play? It's basically the only system I have almost no experience with besides watching a friend play Yu-Gi-Oh GX Tag Force as a kid.

>>9659029
NTA, but DS games on a launch model 3DS isn't exactly ideal either if you want to go with a Pixel perfect option. Its shrinked down on an already small display, and at that point why not use an actual DS Lite?
At least with a 3DS XL, when you shrink them down you'll pretty much have an image close to the regular DS screens terms of size, black space not withstanding. I assume the image scaling would be better on an actual DSi XL though.

>>9659113
where'd you buy from?

>>9659160
Droix. It's more expensive than getting it directly, but they have next day delivery instead of waiting a month+ and I don't know if I would have had to pay import fees anyway which would have made the price about the same.

>>9659017
I might be able to live with that. I mean I used to play GBA emulators on my PC, which at the end of the days was 10x more awkward than this.

Just trying to check because I'm seeing some used DS Lites/DSi/3DSs around here at good prices so I wanted to jump on one to emulate.

So KT-R1 or RP3+?

>>9659240
If inline shoulders bother you more and you prefer stacked, RP3+.
If retarded Start/Select bother you more, KT-R1.

>>9656659
Powkiddy may be an offshoot of Moorepart inc. or not.

>>9659386
u wot m8

So far I have a Miyoo Mini, Retroid Pocket 3+ which I acquired within the past year. I also have a Switch Lite and a hacked New 3DS XL from ages ago.

I've been playing through the NSO GB and GBA games on my Switch Lite, lately, namely Kuru Kuru Kururin and Link's Awakening. I will probably get back to my 3DS later since I've been meaning to play SMT IV.

is there a reason to get a dedicated handheld emulator instead of a steam deck? I want something portable and capable of playing on a tv as well, but I dont see the advantage of buying a handheld emulator at this time. one is not so good at gamecube, the other is. one can do up to psp, but not more, etc. granted there are so many so its hard to keep track of them, but does anyone here own both a steam deck and a emulator handheld that they like and can tell us the differences?

Roxas.
>What are you playing?
Right now, shantae gbc on pic related, super comfy, i love metroidkinos
>Any imminent purchases?
An ipega 9083c to mod it to fit my tab s8u, i plan on making a "switch pro", a handheld to emulate most of my retro shit but also the switch; but better resolution and a better, crispier oled screen, i already tried emulating some games on eggns (fuck off niggers it was a free trial) and seeing how smooth Dark Souls was on my tab i'll wait to see how far skyline goes, gonna post pics as soon as i get it boys

Juggling between my N2DS, Vita and Anbernic RG353p.
I just can't seem to settle for one and even play the same games on the RG353 and 3DS because while the 3DS feels just right, the Anbernic has the better screen (but UnofficialOS sucks)

>>9660039
I'm this anon >>9659959

My rule is to play one game on one handheld until completion, and then rotate to another handheld. I've finished lots of games this way, and switching handhelds from game to game keep the experience fresh.

>>9660070
Now you reminded me I also have a hacked Switch and guess what: some of the games I copied there are also on the 3DS and Anbernic, fuck.

But yours sound like great advice, I really should focus on one game at a time despite having the same ones on multiple devices.

>>9660026
Size is a factor I’d assume. The deck isn’t really going to fit in your pocket, making some the around the size of a PSP much more convenient to just whip out while you’re on the bus or in line for something.

>>9660153
God I miss my PSP Go. Easiest device ever to just grab out of your pocket and play.

>>9659139
played hundreds of hours on 3DS launch model - all of pokemon gen iv & 5

>>9660417
it is literally FINE anon

>>9660026
The Steam Deck is good if you want to play PC games and stuff like WiiU, but other than that it's overkill for retro games. It's way too big and bulky to use for stuff like GBA, SNES, PSP or now even PS2 since small handhelds can do all of that just fine. It's also really not portable so don't get it for that, it's 1.5x wider than a Switch OLED, 25% taller and at least 3x thicker and heavier.
I got one back in October and for the last few months it's sat almost completely unused other than the occasional game of L4D2 and have decided to get a RP3+ instead since it'll play everything I actually want in a much more comfortable form factor.

>>9660528
How is having much shittier controls, ergonomics and a screen far too small to see shit "comfier"? I can't think of a single less comfy way to play retro games, especially PS1 and PS2 stuff, than using one of these baby sized chink devices. It's like trying to watch movies on a smartwatch.

>>9660153
>>9660528
thanks anons.
>I got one back in October and for the last few months it's sat almost completely unused other than the occasional game of L4D2 and have decided to get a RP3+ instead since it'll play everything I actually want in a much more comfortable form factor.
RP3+ eh? definitely going to look into it and compare with some others. Id be happy with a system that can play up to psx/psp, but a more powerful one would be nice too. anyways, appreciate it.

>>9660553
You must be a literal blind retard if you can't see stuff on an almost 5 inch large screen, and please tell me why you need touchpads, full size analogue sticks and rear buttons when 99% of the games it plays never had any of those.

>>9660565
>Tell me why do you need good and usable controls and screen where you can actually see stuff to play games
>Why do you need full sized buttons and sticks to play games designed to be played with full sized buttons and sticks
Are you an actual low IQ inbred mongoloid or just pretending to be a massive retarded faggot for cheap (You)s?
I don't care what you play your shitty games on, but claiming that using one of these chink toys to play stuff like PS2 games on is peak cope.

>>9660585
A cope with what? I have a Steam Deck, it's a retarded piece of crap. It's too big to be used as an actual portable handheld, yet it's not powerful enough to use docked as a gaming PC. If you only want it to play PS2 and old PC games in your house then fine, but it's retarded for pretty much anything else and a chinkheld fulfills every other handheld role much better.

>>9660610
>a chinkheld fulfills every other handheld role much better
Chinkhelds like these Anbernics and Retardoid Pockets are barely usable as GBA emulation devices, let alone for anything else, and even then they're outclassed in every way by every single phone, tablet or UMPC made in the last 5 years. Even a 15 year old hacked PSP is vastly superior.

>>9660624
Why are you so defensive over a giant black plastic brick? Do you even own one?

>>9660642
Why are you so defensive over shitty useless chink toys that are outclassed even by 15 year old handhelds? Are you paid by the hour or by the post to shill them here and spew obvious false information?

>>9660645
You sound like one of those idiots who's too poor to buy something that they really want so they see any criticism of it as a criticism of themselves.

>>9656508
>What handhelds are you /vr/ chads using?
I decided to play my gba for old times sake. This feels smaller than what I remember.

>tfw deck and rp3+ are my two daily drivers and I love them both
you're both retarded.

>>9660624
>barely usable as GBA emulation devices,
Lol you're so wrong

Imagine getting this wound up by chink handhelds.

>>9656997
>not two rows of 4 buttons for natural CPS and Neo playing
my autism will never let me enjoy these

>>9661309
>CPS
>rows of 4
nani!? for Neo-Geo though yeah, pic is basically the best approximation for that.

>>9661309
I hate four button rows, I'd rather use my thumb than my little finger.
>>9661334
Is ideal

Just got my RG35XX.

Crazy how beautiful it is compared to the 3DS. The 3DS is just not a good console for emulation. Clunky and annoying to swap out the SD card. So I'm quite happy. Never had one of these Chinese handhelds, but they feel brittle and cheap as fuck, but I guess that's the charm.

>>9661623
>RG35XX
>brittle and cheap as fuck
u wot?
The plastic feels rock solid. I could probably stand on mine. I have the solid gray one though, don't know about the plastic quality for the clear ones.

>>9661281

>>9661041
>chads using?
>>9656508
>chads


i've been told its a great setup
i've been told i have more money than sense
my original 3ds had to be motherboard swapped with an american unit (pre-software mods)

i did enjoy my import 3ds but i flipped it before it became worthless (chose black as that one exists in japan and usa)

>>9662347
i want to get the missing third girl to complete the set, Rinko Kobayakawa

>>9661334
>>9661442
>>9661309
neocd layout is comfy anon
i thought i hated the mvsx cab until i tried it
the keys are remappable - its great
also with hylomod it does cps1(2)

>>9662356
not to mention the original mvs cab layout isn't THAT far off.

>>9662234
Why did you think I was talking to you?

I'm getting a MOCUTE-060 for my Samsung M30 smartphone with RetroArch Plus to play ROMs. I have to say that it's quite exciting to finally get back into handhelds after many years since the last time I've owned one, I've been going for console and PC only for many years and I miss having something portable to play outside... or just play inside on my bed when it's cold, just sounds so comfortable and relaxing. I chose this specific mobile controller for a few reasons, the main one being that it's really cheap, so if I don't like the experience as much as I think I will then it's fine because I didn't spend much, it's also got symmetrical sticks and DualShock styled directional buttons, which I'm fond of. What am I in for, anons?

>>9659959
>Can emulate almost all GB/GBC/GBA games perfectly on chink haldhelds
>Decides to give Nintendo his shekels to rent a handful of GB/GBC/GBA games
ngmi

>>9662754
I want to think he's pirating them, but it doesn't sound like it.

I will likely pre order the THANGLONG TLK901

‘The dual screens would offer a fantastic challenging experience for playing DS style 2 screen gaming I believe. THANGLONG certainty bring something to the table for Retro Classic Android gaming emula

>>9663157
Amazing device

>>9663157
That looks like the worst button layout I've ever seen. Why are there two d pads? What are the buttons at the very bottom where they are uncomfortable to reach?

>>9663157
The screens look gorgeous

>>9663157
I will certainly pick one up.. perfect device

>>9663157
Specs are beast like

>>9663157
The Dual Sreen would fantastic for Android Play I believe

>>9663157
Crushes the Anbernic for damned sure..

>>9663157
Looks amazing wow

>>9663157
Would love to have

What the fuck are all these bot replies

>>9663157 my
Nice gaming

friend

..

>>9663157
amazing my friend the best device of retro emulation full quality display to me

>>9663157
Perfection I, Beilive for the price snd spc power. Fantastic power.

>>9663157
Looks awesome oh man

>>9663157
Would love to buy one of those

>>9663157
Controls look so awesome for this

>>9663180

this is grim

>>9662754
Shared NSO account that I got for like $8 a year namely for Smash and MH Rise, might as well get my money's worth. Also, GBA emulation on the Switch is pretty good.

>>9662731
All these phone controllers have the main drawback of making your device way wider and heavier than it needs to be so as to make playing any kind of game for long periods quite comical. I have a Gamesir X2 that I used for a few games but rarely touch it because it's simply unwieldy. It might help if you use a smaller phone with the "correct' screen aspect ratio of 16:9, otherwise you're in for a shitty time. That is besides the input lag if you use bluetooth.

>>9663607
pathetic.

>>9663607
Doesn't matter if it's $8 or $80. It's not about the cost, it's about the principle.

>>9663697
People on this thread will spend hundreds of dollars on flavor of the month chink handhelds and their accessories...

>>9663661
I know that this could be a problem, but it's still the cheapest options, I can still play mobile titles made with those screens in mind, like the Sonic 1, Sonic 2 and Sonic CD remasters, and I cam always just stretch the screen a little on emulator settings if I can, since that never bothered me much.

What is a good handheld I can get on Amazon/who is a good Amazon seller who won't rip me off? I tried to buy the RG35XX from Anbernic's webstie, and tried from their AliExpress, but my card was declined on both. I'm too autistic to call my bank + work weird hours so I'm not often awake during business hours.

Been enjoying Super Mario Advance lately (aka SMB2), this is definitely one of the most enjoyable Mario games I've played and it looks fantastic on the 353V. Typically I just can't get into bing bing wahoos for very long but there seems to be something special about this one.

>>9664326
Why did you think it was okay to post that image on a retro gaming board? I'm not helping your dumb ass either.

>>9664326
ebay

>>9664326
What was deleted here?

>>9664912
learn how to use the archives newfag

>>9663791
They're paying for a new physical product while you're paying to play, but not own, games released 30 years ago that you can get for free elsewhere.

>>9658362
>>9658891
>>9659036
Are you guys me? I'm pleased with the Odin Lite, but I find it too big still and playing 2D games in it makes me sick, even moreso with the D-Pad on the bottom. Meanwhile you can easily take the KT-R1 in the bag and take it out whenever you need it, it's not a Switch-like machine that you have to be extra careful with.

Odin is more powerful still and the Lite is pretty sweet in terms of price-performance ratio, but unless you really care about 6th gen and 3DS, the KT-R1's chipset will more than surface. I also ordered the KT-R1 so I hope it delivers on our expectations.

I'm mostly sure I'm not (You). However, I just pulled the trigger on an 8gb grey plastic model, top dpad. Nil better deliver.

What should I be using to play ps1 games on 353m? Either im using psxc which wont let me changed to a better resolution or standalone epsxe which wont let me use analog sticks.

>>9665873
And duckstation wont run phantom menace properly. Im truely in hell rn.

>>9664912
Natale Mars in a diaper

>>9665873
>a better resolution

The screen is only 640x480.

>>9666039
Ok, that sounds hot... shouldn't have been deleted.

>>9666123
still 4 times the amount of pixels in 320x240 tho...

>>9659113
Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles and Persona 3 Portable.

I just got my Odin pro and playing Majora's Mask 3D with Project Restoration and 4K textures.
https://restoration.zora.re/#setup

>>9666260
It was a pretty tame pic, diaper was mostly covered by a dress. If you want really want hot, google Natale Mars training the baby gimp

I have been content with my hacked 3DS for a very long time, but am in the market for a portable video game player that can play titles from the original PlayStation (PSP games would be a nice bonus, but it optional). I have no idea where to start looking, but I will start by saying I'm surprised how small and uncomfortable some of these portable game players look. I can feel the cramps in my hands already.

>>9668043
Which Anbernic machine is that?

>>9668051
I don't know what an anbernic is. That image popped up when I googled something along the lines of 'little shit portable game player' or some variation of that.

>>9656508
got a 353m, really nice but my right hand start hurting after a while, I think I'll get a phone grip and see if it gets more comfortable that way

>>9668142
miyoo mini

>>9658658
post some of your chiptune?

>>9668159
>>9668043
>>9668142
Don't get a Miyoo Mini, it's made for chink bug hands.

I would go to Anbernic's ali express page (they are a Chinese company who make emulator machines) and sort by most ordered. Rn, what you posted is pretty popular. RG35XX, it runs old games and can run ps1 but I heard ps1 doesn't run super well on it.

They also come with their own rom libraries but sometimes they are bad. The sds they come with are bad.

I would buy a popular anberbic in your price range, buy a new sd card, back up the og sd card onto the new one and if a rom breaks, replace it

3DS users, what's your preferred method for GBC and GBA? Injects or some emulator?

>>9668406
Emulator. Injecting every game you want to play just takes longer than dragging and dropping everything once. Works really just as well in regard to in-game performance.

>>9668384
>Natalie Mars

>>9668406
>GBC
mGBA (supports supergameboy)
>GBA
open_agb_firm

Have a RG351MP but I kinda want to get a RP3+ to replace it. How does it stack up in terms of quality? I'm willing to trade away the metal shell of the MP if the RP3+ is that good, plus it's shipping in Atomic Purple which is a worthy tradeoff

>>9669168
I had an rg351mp and bought an rp3+. Ended up selling the anbernic.
The plastic feels good and feels high quality, even compared to the metal body of the rg351mp. I wouldn't want to throw it around like I did with the anbernic though. Much more ergonomic too.
The buttons feel nice, especially the dpad. Totally different feeling from the anbernic. The rp3+ face buttons are smaller, and the analogs are pitifully smaller and worse. The rp3+ also has retarded placement for the select+start. It has much better shoulder buttons than the rg351mp.
The screen is very very good.
It also plays much more systems than the rg351mp, like Saturn and some ps2.
Besides the analogs and button placement, the rp3+ is much nicer than the rg351mp. I think the rg351mp wins for playing older handhelds, like gb, gamegear or neo geo pocket, because the rp3+'s screen feels too big for that sometimes. Also sold my psp when I got my rp3+.

>>9662347
>>chads using?
yes, I'd consider myself a chad using.

If anyone is interested in the KT-R1, the creator just said on discord that the 8+256 model has hall effects sticks.

>obscure handhelds is done
it's over.

>>9669092
>open_agb_firm
How does this work?

Does the latest version of UnoficialOS fix the hugely long boot time or should I just stick to my 3DS?

>>9670313
>Hold start while booting 3ds
>choose open_agb_firm
>choose .gba ROM from file list
>???
>profit

>>9670212
retro dodo for me now...

4PX or DHL for shipping?

Anything good on the horizon? The market focus right now seems heavily into big, expensive portable PCs. Is the era of the small comfy low power handheld over already?

>>9670512
Nah, gotta be Russ. At least he doesn't have an obvious learning disability.

>>9670665
KTR1 looks good. Anbernic have a 4 inch screen handheld coming, the RG405, but we don't quite have specs yet. Basically the 505, but with a 4 inch, 640x480 screen. Retroid are making a clamshell and possibly another vertical handheld. And people will always need to regularly test their fire extinguishers, so Powkiddy probably have something in the works.

>>9668043
Finding a cheap PSP is always an option if you just want it for PS1 and PSP. PSP screen isn't exactly great though.
Pretty much any recent Chinese handheld can do PS1 just fine, although the nicer ones are better at upscaling. You're mostly just picking based on form factor and what OS/software you prefer.

>>9670512
What about Taki

>>9670949
He had a meltdown when his attempts at getting a job with Moorechip/Retroid failed (sorry, when they sent him a review sample that wasn't perfect and he was butthurt (sorry, when they didn't listen to his constructive feedback)). Then he "invented" a handheld that was just a small screen connected to his PC with a damn wire and started a shit flinging match with his subscribers because it was definitely a handheld guys.

>>9670665
KT-Pocket (formerly KT-R1) is my dream handheld. if it would actually release. it will also have an option with the left analog on top if that's your thing.

>>9670665
Miyoo Mini Horizontal looks cool

I find out that a good amount MS/GG games are slow paced enough to work well with touch controls.

New3DSXL may be the ultimate handheld.

>>9673039
if you like shit ergonomics, controls, screens, and emulation capability yeah it's the ultimate.

>>9656508
>What handhelds are you /vr/ chads using?
My fucking phone. Realme GT Neo 2.

> What games are you playing now?
Finished Majora's Mask and Fallout recently. Now playing Zelda OoS, Fallout 2 and Mario 3, rarely DK Land. Want to try out the OG Star Fox but it doesn't go well without a controller. Need to either find time to play it at home, where I have a plenty of other games on PC, or try some gay-ass mechanical pubg triggers.

> Any imminent purchases of more handhelds to add to your collection?
No, I'm fine with what I have.

>>9673276
>Fallout on Android
Enlighten me, Zanzibart...

>>9673284
It's called "fo2.exe". It's free on Play Market, just put installed PC versions in your phone memory and locate them through the app. Decent touch controls with some implemented features. For now it runs OG 1 and 2, and also mods Sonora and Nevada. Tactics support will be added soon according to dev.

>>9671871
if it's priced like the mini it could do alright.

>>9671858
I ordered one because
>I'm an idiot
>really like the bigger, high res 3:2 screen that seems like an almost perfect compromise for playing both 4:3 and 16:9 content
>like the overall size and width
>absolutely insane battery
But I'm kinda worried the battery will be a double-edged sword and make the device weigh more than I ultimately care for. I doubt the people who ordered it in metal will care about that either way.

>>9656508
>What handhelds are you /vr/ chads using?
SDMR ofc.
>What games are you playing now?
Trying to overcome my crippling indecision and pick what retro J/RPG I want to play next.
>Any imminent purchases of more handhelds
Nah, I'm not an OGhardwarefag. I'm perfectly content with my all-in-one emulator.

>>9660030
I own 7 or so Bluetooth controllers and the one you posted is by far the best for me in all categories.
>Its the smallest yet somehow still very comfortable
>insane battery life, only have to charge it once a week
>can do vertical and horizontal screen position which is perfect for DS emulation
>R3 and L3 have their own dedicated buttons
>the least amount of lag
>connects almost instantly
>great feeling buttons
CONS
>a tight fit on some of my phones
>requires external software to configure and you have to enable some special dev mode on your phone
>was hard to find one from a reputable seller when I got mine
>sticks are a bit small but I have seen people put covers on them

>>9671858
I ordered one in plastic. I'm really tired of these handhelds weighing a ton, I'd prefer it light as possible for using while laying back in bed. Hopefully the plastic shells are decent quality

But yeah, finally having a smaller pocketable handheld with a screen resolution above 480p is awesome, can do a lot more with shaders and integer scaling with all the extra resolution. GBA is going to look great on it

>>9673309
ty ty pretty boy

>>9673397
i'm the guy you replied with, to that i hv some things:
>requires external software to configure and you have to enable some special dev mode on your phone
actaully if you use the app to put it in Xinput mode, and then delete the app, there will be a file called wee2t. that weighs like 13.4kb, just copy that file to whatever device you wwnt to use the gamepad with and BAM no ned for bullshit app, that's how i got it to work on my "unsupported" Android 4.2.2 (lazy devs ask for 6.0 and up because of gamemode libs)

but yes, overall it's pretty comfy to do long playthrougs on this thing, my s10e with this gamepad looks like a comfy psp nd almost the same size with a nonshit screen

>>9673563
thank you my bro

>>9673404
>GBA is going to look great on it
Even though it's a 3:2 screen, it's not perfectly integer scaled to the GBA like the RG351P.

>>9656508
Ghouls n Ghosts and a few old shmups on the Switch

My wife bought me this chinkoid 400 in one gameboy for Christmas that has all these really weird and shitty bootlegs and romhacks of NES games. Like for some reason Contra starts you at the first base level with the spread gun. I hate it but my son enjoys it.

>>9673757
At such a ridiculously high PPI and such a low resolution on the gba, I doubt you'll be able to see any issues with stretching to the full size of the screen. But even if you applied integer scaling, it still ends up with quite a bigger image than the 351P. More importantly, it's able to display 4:3 stuff without massive issues unlike the 351P with it's fucked ~1.5x res of most 4:3 content.

What's the best solution for DS emulation on the RP3+? Melon and both versions of Desmume both seem like they can't handle something like Metroid Prime Hunters.

>>9673980
Drastic is the best DS emulator for Android anon.

>>9673871
On a 1620x1080 screen, GBA will integer scale up to 1440x960 if you'd prefer bordering.
With sensible scaling though, something like the sharp-bilinear-2x-prescale shader (or simple 7x integer pre-scale and bilinear scale to fit), the GBA games will preserve the look of sharp square pixels when magnified 6.75x to fill the screen without any aspect ratio changes.

Here's an approximation of what that would look like. On the device in your hands at that high of a DPI you're probably not going to notice the slightly smaller pixels.

wanna buy a kishi 2, is it a bad idea/investment?

>>9674013
Thanks, wasn't sure if it was worth rooting around for a download.

>>9660624
>Chinkhelds like these Anbernics and Retardoid Pockets are barely usable as GBA emulation devices, let alone for anything else
>Even a 15 year old hacked PSP is vastly superior.
PSP can't even get full speed on the entire SNES library, I understand the caution regarding chinkshit in general but you don't have to lie through your fucking teeth like a faggot.

>>9674660
PSP and Vita tards always come in these threads and lie about their outdated bricks.

I'm so fucking impatient bros.

How much longer do you think it will be?

>>9674916
Anon, there's also been rumors of Retroid making a clamshell and another one of Retroid making a vertical handheld like the 353V. 4 possible consoles in 2023 is too many, at least half of them are 100% fake news.

>>9669168
Wait for pic related
>>9674916

>>9674916
Couldn’t they have moved the start and select buttons?

I kind of hate Ayaneo advertising the Air Plus, only because the Indiegogo campaign still isn't out yet.

>>9656508

>Using
Mostly SteamDeck and GBA Micro

>Playing
Silent Hill and ChuChu Rocket

>Imminent Purchases
I always have an urge to buy something. But there's really nothing I need.

>Miyoo Mini Plus has WiFi
>no RTC though
I don't get it

>rgb10 max 3 is being made and got leaked
BASED
>ruined by dpad placement
cringe...

why the heck do people people still buy the Odin Base/Pro when the Lite is readily available now
>cheaper
>better battery life
>better wifi
>generally same or actually better performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_d8-e2cDsQ
>basically a KTR1 except can only be bought in metal, can only be bought with the dpad in the wrong place, slightly smaller screen even for 4:3 content, bit less power, probably only two or three colors again as opposed to the 6 or 7 planned for the ktr1 iirc, probably way smaller batter, probably way lower resolution
anbernig is really gonna need to bring it on the price if the KTR1 actually ships next month

>>9676528
KT-Pocket guy knows that Russia is about to start WW3 so he's taking preorders knowing he won't have to actually deliver anything

>>9676535
Russia already played their hand so at this point it's looking like it'll be China or more likely the mutts that finally spark WW3. does kinda feel like we're possibly coming up on our last chance to order silly chinese toys though, yeah.

>>9676563
>>9676535
WW3 will start when Poland invades Belarus. And that better not stop me getting my KTR1 or else I'm going to give Mateusz Morawiecki a stern talking to.

I'm looking to buy my first emulation machine and the RG280V looks like the best for my purposes, but maybe you guys know a better option?

My wishlist:
>Can be played with one hand (my hands are huge, but I don't want to strain)
>Plays NES, SNES, and GBA well (mostly want to play Fire Emblem games and romhacks)
>Good battery life
>PS1 emulation is a bonus but not necessary (Might play Digimon World and Personas)
>Could be pocketed without scratching the screen

My concerns about the RG280:
>unimpressive battery
>bad resolution/filtering options for SNES games?
>rear facing speaker

>>9676171
>This put off by alt sneedpad placement

>>9674753
>Implying chinksp and goyta keks are any worse than goyslop3ds or people who put chink chink yahoo clamps on their phones.

>>9674058
Shit for gen 5 and under. Yound adult ludo /lit/ golden retriver kino for gen 6 and above. But then-
>Subjecting your phone to goyslops2 and nigcube goymes

>>9673980
Sell me your kinoid pocket 3 triple delux sandwhich plus and wait for the 4 plus for perfect citra performance at only 150 APEmurican papers or 124 TARDOpian british beans sterling

>>9676815
BASED BASED BASED

>>9676563
I'm going to be sad if we end up having WW3. China's finally starting to release decent handhelds and neat x86 handhelds like the Ayaneo devices, and a big gay war ruins everything.
Speaking of the Ayaneo I wonder if the regular Air will be discontinued at some point. The only "cheap" models left are the weird "Be Duck" and "Retro Power" designs, the regular Airs are either out of stock or are super expensive.

What smartphone controller should I get? I just got a Samsung s23 ultra and I am looking to put some emulators on it.

>>9674923
>>9674916
Jesus christ they're desperate, didn't the base RP3 hit not that long ago? And we're already at the 2nd revision

>>9674916
I don't get it. Why would they give it a bigger screen and the same chip as the Odin Lite when they already make the Odin Lite? Are Moorechip so retarded that they're going to compete with themselves?

>>9677250
>>9677312
>they still think it's real
That image popped up before the announcement of the 3+. It's almost assuredly just someone making a fake mockup. The current rumors about a clamshell or vertical Retroid are much more likely.

>>9677250
People think that "leak" is fake in part because Retroid David himself said it was fake even though he never said anything about the RP3 leaks pre-announcement, outright alluded to the RP3+ several times pre-announcement, and once again never said anything about the clamshell leak (which we now know is real because a bunch of promo screens just showed up in a patent filing).

That and the D900 chip is literally too fucking large to fit in something the size of the RP3, so the RP3S is literally impossible. In the Odin Lite, it's nearly a square with its barely shorter side taking up virtually the entirety of vertical space available. Assuming Retroid David is lying, even though he didn't deny 2 previous device leaks + 1 forthcoming device leak, AND assuming the "leak" is only half bullshit, (both of which are extremely unlikely on their own imo and exponentially so when combined), then you're left with a device that is essentially an Odin Lite. Same chip, same height by necessity, same manufacturer, probably the same or similar price given where the RP3+ is already priced, but with a screen that is 0.5 inches smaller. I don't know why anyone would want that over an Odin Lite that's already readily available unless they placed the d-pad in the top position or something. It'd be hard to get mad about something like that unless you really wanted to. I sold my Odin Lite and ordered an RP3 soon after for the size and weight difference, and I get the feeling that's what pushed most people into getting an RP3+ over an Odin Lite too since a $50 difference isn't THAT big if what you really wanted is the Odin.

TL;DR the S devices "leak" is bogus. A proper RP4 with a different chip and formfactor is more likely to be revealed summer or fall at the latest according to my ass.

>>9677364
Seeing handhelds with this wide clamshell form factor always makes me think there’s a ton of wasted space on the bottom half.

>>9677450
>wide clamshell
Why is it taking so long for someone to just make a v90 but with more power and better build/button quality? It would be another money printer like the Miyoo Mini.

>>9656508
og hardware for life fuck emulation machines

>>9677450
>Seeing handhelds with this wide clamshell form factor always makes me think there’s a ton of wasted space on the bottom half.
Yup, is it too difficult to make a dual screen android handheld? I mean, you can connect 2 screens to a raspberry pi and android supporta both natively so no big rom or software modifications need to be made

>>9677518
>dual shit
disgusting.

What's the most pocketable device that can do full speed GameCube and 3ds?

>>9669447
BIG WINDOW GG
i have some unmolested dmg also
>>9668170
https://youtu.be/8LxbQ27X6RU

>>9677713
Your phone. There's no chinkheld yet that can do that AND fit in your pocket.

>>9677754
not sure if thats technically chiptune but excellent anon

>>9676796
The other options are the Miyoo Mini and the PowKiddy V90

>>9677713
If you want high performance maybe the GPD win 4? It’s a bit bigger than the switch light so you’d need big pockets, but it’s one of the smallest of the “handheld PC” steam-deck like devices.

>>9677825
>>9678092
Thanks. Guess I'll keep waiting for now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JisEV5t_Qw
They showed off the Loki Max, but still no sign of whats going on with the regular Loki models.
I'm also still admittedly weary about that design.

>>9678946
The d-pad placement is definitely better than it was on the Odin, but I still wish it was a little higher + a little closer to the screen. Also a 6" 16:10 instead of 16:9 screen also could've helped a bit with the immense wideness that was in part caused by trying to increase d-pad and right stick ergonomics. FURTHERMORE, did the the bezel's on the left and right of the screen really need to be 2.5x the thickness of the bezels on the top and bottom?

>>9656508
sorry for a lame post, but I'm a complete outsider when it comes to handhelds. how do you pick one? like, what questions should I ask myself before choosing one? also, what are the pros / cons of handhelds vs using a phone controller vs Switch? can the latter launch ROMs at all?

>>9677569
>>Dual shit
What?

>>9679016
>like, what questions should I ask myself before choosing one?
What platforms do I need the handheld to be able to emulate? Which ones are nice to have but not required?

That's the big question, really. After that, I'd just hone in on how much comfort you really need/want (generally speaking horizontal handhelds are more comfortable than vertical), if you care about weight and size or not, if you want d-pad below or above left analog stick, etc. In my biased opinion, an RP3+ is the safest and all around best option if you don't need to emulate PS2 and beyond.

>also, what are the pros / cons of handhelds vs using a phone controller vs Switch? can
personally I just fucking hate detachable controls.

also, what are the pros / cons of handhelds vs using a phone controller vs Switch? can

KTR1 shipment start date just got delayed to April. on the flipside, plastic and metal are now starting shipping at the same time.

Is there anything good that is actually pocketable? I have been leaning toward the analogue pocket as it seems to be the most premium. I do like the look of the anbernic rg35xx but every chinese one I buy lacks the durability and build quality that a pocketable device needs. Is the analogue the way to go for a quality pocketable product?

so i plug in my miyoo mini last night to charge and today my sd card (128 gb samsung) is corrupted. fucking cool bro

Yooo Jelos is back on the menu.
I wonder if they improved the performance of some emulators.

>>9677713
Maybe the Surface Duo 2, if you're willing to get unconventional. I owned a Duo 1 for a while and it did Gamecube really well, and some lighter 3DS games worked wonderfully with a non-official fork of Citra that let me scale the screens to fit each panel. But there were still some heavy-hitters that slowed to a crawl, so maybe the SD888 on the Duo 2 can get that last leg

>>9679110
ok thanks anon
what do people use on RP3, built-in emulators? are they based on existing emulators? are they good or should I just get something like RetroArch?
>if you don't need to emulate PS2 and beyond
is PS2 even emulated on handhelds now? would be cool but given the emulation is still demanding on PC I assume it's even worse on mobile, right?
Also, I see people emulate 3DS on handhelds? that would be really amazing, do I need something powerful for it?

https://pastebin.com/aTKuM2my

Woof woof woof

>>9680667
RP3 setup has a bunch of emulators to choose to install, they're the same as the ones on the play store but it's convenient that they pick all the ones that work.
Also AetherSX2 is discontinued but I don't think PS2 emulation ever worked well on Android.
I don't think Citra requires a super powerful phone these days.

>>9680696
The ones that the RP3 Setup installs are a bit outdated so he'll probably want to install them manually anyway. But yes, basically all the ones in that setup are the ones you want, just get the newer versions of them if you want to keep them up to date.

Thinking of buying a handheld
Preferably anbernic
Not too sure what system i wanna play, probably gba.
I was thinking the rg35xx
But i realize for similar costs i could maybe do horizontal which might feel better?
Any recs?

Budget is 100 or less

>>9677545
Dual screen android phones are becoming a thing, you can attach a controller to one like pic related, though I wonder how viable a dedicated handheld in that form factor would be. Seems a bit too niche for most applications and it would probably increase costs by a not insignificant amount. Would certainly be cool though.

>Snapdragon 820
Is this good enough for citra mmj? I have a feeling it isn't

>>9681174
Chinese companies could just do a clamshell version of the lg double play.

apparently there's going to be a 4:3 KTR1 in may??

i caved

>>9682160
I'd rather go for the RG353P or Miyoo Mini.

>>9656508
I pretty much live on my Vita.

>>9682192

>>9682160
Well spent. I'm loving mine, after several hours of setup and tinkering. Fuck the Miyoo Mini, if anything the Miyoo Mini+ might be a good contender, but they seem to be about equal with their own tradeoffs.

>>9682171
>>9682219
I would have bought a Miyoo Mini if it was in stock. right now I own a rg280v

>>9682236
I hate verts in general, but the 280v is probably the one I'd get if I had to choose one. no idea why the mini took off instead of that.

>>9682241
It's nice but I'd be lying if I said my 280v wasn't a cope purchase, they are similarly sized but I think the Miyoo Mini looks more aesthetically pleasing. Is it pay 3 times the price for overpay pleasing? fuck no, so that's why I got the 280. They fill a similar niche when it comes to size.

>>9682263
Yeah idk. The transparent colors looks nice and I like the screen, but otherwise I find the mini ugly as fuck. I don't get it I guess.

Anyone using a N2DS here?

>>9682063
I think Nil said it would use the 800x600 screen he originally advertised. But considering he's delayed the delay to April, a new version in May seems very unlikely.

Fucking finally, the AyaNeo air plus is launching next week. I just hope they aren't trying to beat out the Loki launch to the detriment of its quality.

>>9682192
I would too, once I get the initiative to start hacking it. Mine is a 2000 model.

>>9659113
Lumines, the remasters fuck up a game mechanic and the originals are the best experience

>>9684823
What game mechanic is different?

the white (real white) KRT1 looks pretty nice desu. I saw one person say there's going to be a pink color too, so I may just end up switching my color before shipping starts.

>>9686239
>"hold on, I gotta take this call"
>pulls out a fucking Gameboy

>>9686239
>could have just used the GPS in front of him
I hate them.

>>9686239
I think that real white one was a custom paint job.

>>9686607
It's one of the color choices they're going to add before shipping starts.

>>9686239
Faggot

>>9687185
Not a tranny or faggot I just like pink.

>>9687091
No, it was painted by one of the Chinese testers (same as that weird green/bronze one in the top left). They took that picture and put it on Discord. Nil confirmed that the beige one is the real colour that he'll be selling, at least for the time being.

What's the best OS for the RG353P? They all have someting.

Jelos doesn't have access to Drastic anymore (and refuse to bring it back despite being the best DS emulator with near perfect performance)

ArkOS is picky with the internet routers it works with and some of the best UI themes are just broken or don't work with it.

UnofficialOS takes literal ages to boot up.

AmberELEC is AmberELEC.

>>9686239
KT-R1 vs RP3+ side by side comparison.

one thing that worries me a little when choosing handhelds is screen quality. is ghosting much of an issue on handhelds, e.g. RP3/3+? what about black levels? I'm not sure if they use IPS or what

>>9687825
So is Jelos back again for real? Can’t you add drastic yourself?

>>9687930
the dramaqueen dev is super wishywashy, I wouldn't risk going back if I were you.

>>9687930
Jelos is back for Anbernic and rk3566 devices but for some reason they aren't adding ThemeMaster, PortMaster and with that, the Drastic emulator.
And for a even weirder reason, it's harder to add Drastic manually. It's possible but really cumbersome.

I think at this point UnOS just works.

>>9656508
I've gone through multiple at this point. I made the mistake of starting with a Retroid Pocket 2, whose interface sucked and wasn't very powerful. After that I bought the AYN Odin, which I loved, but was a little disappointed by some of its Gamecube and PS2 performance. A few months later I bought the Steam Deck, which has been my emulation workhorse ever since.

>>9685251
In Lumines, there's a special block that chains every block of the same color that is touching it or touching another block that touches it.
In the originals, you have to complete the block that the special chain block is part of to work, so you can place it and then build out a path of blocks to try and clear all of that color.
In the remaster, it automatically is set to clear as soon as it is placed, so it's much less payout on average.

>>9688149
Oh, right. That was already changed for Electronic Symphony, that's why I didn't notice.

>>9686436
WHO?

>all these leaked but unannounced handhelds
These chinks are going to dump everything all at the same time aren't they

>>9687929
bump

>>9656508
What's a good handheld that won't utterly break my back account that can play PS2?

>>9689756
Must be now before ww3

>>9677450
>>9677487
Came into the thread hoping to ask if there was a powkiddy v90 successor so that's disappointing (the X18S seems kind of a bust from reading reviews).
Wanted to gift my bro a V90 but it's £50 on Amazon which was too expensive for what it is imo (too late order from Ali) so got a RG350M for £70 to custom firmware and … essentially came to the same conclusion. The milled case and decentish screen doesn't make up for the shite internals. Aside from that, I hate the form factor and constant freezing when using GenPlusGX and I think they would too.
Gonna just give them a MD clone console I ordered from Ali awhile back.
Was originally wanting to import a 16bit Pocket MD Plus and a clone Everdrive MD but, again, I'm a dumdum who wasn't forward thinking and it's too late now.

>ayaneo marketing the air plus as "the handheld of generation z"
i'm 26 am i allowed to buy it?

>>9689805
I doubt it'll turn into WW3, just Cold War 2 electric booglaoo
Just a damn shame that we'll probably have to deal with sanctions over chinkshit soon.

If you don't own a steamdeck or aren't looking into buying a steamdeck, you are inferior and thus have inferior taste in handhelds.

We all know it's the best and will be the best for years

>>9690391
>>>/v/

>>9690401
Steamdeck can play any video game from 1970s - Now so it's Retro.

>>9690405
obnoxious bait shitposts belong on /v/

>>9690391
>tfw deck, rp3+, and POWkiddy A12

>>9690391
It's too big, uncomfortable for laying back in bed with. Also dpad kinda sucks

>>9690391
I'm tempted, but it seems like overkill for what I've been emulating lately.

>>9690438
Kino set anon, pretty much covers all your bases.

>>9689773
The RP3 uses an old iPhone screen, so you'll be fine. Even the cheap 640x480 screen on the RP2 has no ghosting. They're OCA laminated too. Black levels are fine, but if you want blacker black levels then the Anbernic 503 and 505 have the same OLED screen as the original Vita.

its out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfclsJzeyr0

>>9677518
very fucking based pixel enthusiast

>>9690391
You aren't wrong, and the Steam Deck is still bound to be good even later down the road due to the custom CPU being really good at energy efficiency.
That said a part of me still wants to see how the AyaNeo Air+ or Ayn Loki models turn out, mostly for the rare few sequences of Windows ports of /vr/ friendly games that don't exactly play nice on Linux. I was able to get PSO Blue Burst up and running but my lazy autist brain still prefers being able to jump in and play instead of messing around with proton or adding non-Steam games from there. That and with the case it becomes too bulky for travel purposes.

tfw no cute chink gf to play chinkhelds with

>>9690391
nigger
there's what you wanted, go away

Should I get
Rg350m
Rg350p
Rg351v
Rg351m
Rg351p
Rg300x
Rg300
Rg280m

Which one is best and why
Looking to play gba, gbc, nes, snes, maybe n64 and maaaaybe gamecube but I know that is a bit unrealistic

>>9691439
steamdeck

>>9691439
you cunts that only play nintendo games are so fucking weird.

>>9691469
I'm 23 and idk what other handheld games there are besides like idk
Link
Mario
Pokemon
Megaman? Uhh seamus lady in the metal suit
Dementium
Ace attorney
Yugioh games
Sonic
Donkey kong
Idk
Maybe some racing games

Ps1 would be cool too but i thought all of those struggle with ps1

>>9691478
PS1 is easier to run than n64 and especially GameCube in most cases.

>>9691478
>Sonic
Hmm, not sure if there are any non-Nintendo consoles that had Sonic games on them.

I'm new to handhelds and I'm trying to play Phantasy Star Online which was on the Dreamcast and Gamecube. Is there a handheld that exists that can either run Dreamcast or Gamecube games relatively smoothly?

>>9691529
Which one can run nintendo systems and ps1 best?
>>9691539
Kek
I'm fine with non nintendo consoles, just wanted to say I don't really know any as I'm kind of a dumb zoomie

>>9691551
The Retroid pocket 3 plus should be able to do most GameCube or Dreamcast games well or at least acceptably. There’s a community spreadsheet for how well some games and systems run, just google retroid pocket 3+ compatibility list or something.

>>9691439
of the ones you listed probably the 351v, though personally I think you might be best off going with the RG35XX;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWLRWEooqd8

You people need to buy original hardware. Emulation is trash and piracy is wrong.

>>9682160
>she fell for the rg35xx meme

>>9691796
it seems good!!

>>9691763
Your mom is original hardware and she is trash and wrong.

>>9668384
The miyoo mini + is coming out soon and is way better than the RG35XX on the merit that its custom firmware has been out for a while and is bug free.

>>9682241
The regular mini is loved for being "Pocketable", but there also should be such a thing as being too small to where it's not comfortable to use at all.

>>9692145
Makes it more of a shame that there’s no alternative to the V90 with a more power. Has greater pocketability but larger controls and screen when in use.

>>9692165
Whoever is running things at Powkiddy is retarded for not capitalizing further on the v90.

>>9659113
Midnight club 3. Xmen legends II.

>>9691682
Maybe, but I can afford those other ones I listed, and aren't they better than the 35xx?

>>9691763
I'm literally emulating gba games on my ds flash cart with tons of roms downloaded for free

>>9690824
>The RP3 uses an old iPhone screen
oh, that's why it uses that weird 750x1334 resolution? makes sense now. then again, most seem to imply it was an iPhone 6 screen, which is good for a handheld but a bit old by now.
this is why I feel so much on the fence about handhelds. today cheap phones have better screens with larger res than this. it'd be so amazing to have a phone that doubled as a handheld. instead of getting a $150 handheld and a $150 phone you could just get a phone for $300 or less and easily get a 120hz screen and a better processor. (though RP3 has a decent one on the level of good budget phones, it's some random chinkshit)

>>9692424
The main reason to use something like a RP3 over a phone, besides price, is just that a dedicated device has its own convenience. You don't have to clip on controllers when you want to start playing, you don't have to dedicate shittons of disk space on your phone to game files. It's just a thing that does the thing and nothing else.

Is there no love for the gpd XD plus?

I'm starting to think I'm the only dumbass to buy one.

>>9692424
The two biggest cons of using a phone are that the controller setup is always going to be a bit janky and that when you're using it for games you functionally don't have a phone. And the third of those two cons is that the screen and speakers are not well suited for retro games. Many phones have speakers only on one side and the screens are stupidly wide. And have a hole in them.

>>9692145
kinda bugs me that half the people kvetching about reasonably sized handhelds not being "pocketable" probably have a mini tablet sized phone in their other pocket.

>>9692453
>>9692505
yeah, these are all fair. though recently even budget phones started getting 128 gigs of memory as a minimum. unless you want whole romsets or lots of PS2/GC games, I think that's more than enough. if you don't play anything above 4th gen, there's not much point.
but I guess you're right still as phones already serve a ton of functions, and using a handheld with analogs and such as a camera or phone or web browsing device would get clunky. phones already made everything to get rid of all the buttons and maximize screen space. their SoCs are powerful and it's tempting to use those for gaming, but I guess you can't have all at once.
still sad that phones excel at virtually everything BUT playing retro games, and those powerful SoCs are used for nothing but messengers and cookie clickers

>>9692454
lol fag

I think I'll get the miyoo mini+ and just use my phone for anything else it can't handle

Why does running an emulator on a ds have a bunch of roms with compatability issues or games not running at all but I don't hear as much of that with retro handhelds? Are they not both emulators?

>>9692804
former DS owner here. emulated lots of stuff on it. you do realize how weak the DS is? it's weaker than the 1st iPhone I think.
I recall how many issues it had. SNES chips weren't supported. neo-geo ran slower in games made past 1995. PS1 and later weren't even attempted on it I think.
so you only had NES emulation and barely passable SNES and Genesis. of course it had compatibility issues.
modern phones are incomparably more powerful. 4 (or more like 8) cores with far higher efficiency in everything, GPUs far more fit for 3D, they easily push games on 2K resolutions where DS struggled with something like 256 × 192.

>>9692834
* by "phones" I mean they have about same hardware as modern handhelds. ARM CPUs with way better graphics chips.
yeah, while we're at it. DS's makn processor is a single core at 67 MHz. typical modern phone CPU is at least 4 cores at 1.7Ghz. enough sad.

>>9662347
this is group is based as fuck love too see it <3

>>9692834
>>9692838
So the emulators are better because better hardware to work with?

>>9693638
well, this is definitely the #1 reason. DS is literally hundred times less powerful than the modern handhelds. Not exaggerating btw, probably even more. it is hardy even as powerful as N64. PSP had far better SNES/Genesis emulation, because it was more powerful.
and in general DS is pretty terrible for emulation. the screen has lower res than SNES and Genesis (and even NES). even the best SNES emulators have a million bugs and weirdnesses. literally any modern phone, even cheapest chinkshit one, will emulate SNES / Genesis better than DS, and even PSX pretty easily.

>black, green, and pink color options added to site
vaporwarebros it's happening!

>>9693638
Partially. As anon said, the DS is extremely low powered (to put it in perspective, it's main CPU is outclassed by microcontrollers in some remote controls), but it's also kind of weirdly designed.
To maintain compatibility with GBA games it has a GBA CPU on board. In DS mode, this handles I/O functions, similarly to how the PS1 CPU did in the PS2. However, the communication between the two chips is bafflingly strange. The GBA CPU runs much slower than the DS one, so the DS CPU has to wait for the GBA CPU to process I/O all the time, leading to stalling. To "compensate" the DS CPU's external bus only runs at half speed anyway. Then, for no well explained reason, Nintendo designed the DS with a 16-bit memory bus, even though the CPUs are 32-bit. That means that the CPU needs two cycles to process 32-bit data, effectively halving the speed. Add that to the half-speed memory bus and the half-speed GBA CPU and you have the DS barely running faster than a Sega Mega Drive under some circumstances. (To be fair to Nintendo, this was the first ever multi-cpu setup using ARM, so even attempting something like this was way ahead of its time).
When you add that to the screen being too low res for emulating most systems anyway, it's no wonder homebrew devs never got very far with it.

A Vita, a 3DS, a hacked Switch, maybe a Steam deck. These are all you need. I don't get the obsession with chinkhelds.

>>9693929
I could do without the nintentrash, but a Vita + Deck is a good combo imo. Chinkhelds are fun to me though not gonna lie.

>>9693882
Elements of this post are correct but overall there are very many inaccuracies.
>To maintain compatibility with GBA games it has a GBA CPU on board. In DS mode, this handles I/O functions, similarly to how the PS1 CPU did in the PS2.
ARM7 (GBA CPU) handles audio, wifi, and a few inputs like the touch screen. Most of the important I/O, including speed-critical I/O such as graphics and the game card, is connected to ARM9 (main DS CPU).
> However, the communication between the two chips is bafflingly strange. The GBA CPU runs much slower than the DS one, so the DS CPU has to wait for the GBA CPU to process I/O all the time, leading to stalling.
The I/O which ARM7 is responsible for isn't blocking. Your main processor won't stall because you told the sub processor to play a sound sample.
>Then, for no well explained reason, Nintendo designed the DS with a 16-bit memory bus, even though the CPUs are 32-bit. That means that the CPU needs two cycles to process 32-bit data, effectively halving the speed.
That's pretty normal. GBA also used a 16 bit memory interface for main memory. ARM processors are quite capable of operating efficiently on a 16 bit bus due to THUMB mode.
ARM9's memory interface is crippled for a few other reasons. The random access latency on main memory is abysmal and there are all sorts of weird bugs reducing bandwidth for no real reason (e.g. forcefully fetching a 32 bit word even when in 16 bit THUMB mode, negating its usefulness). The result is that ARM9 becomes very reliant on cache. The weirdest part is that most of these problems don't apply to ARM7.
>Add that to the half-speed memory bus and the half-speed GBA CPU and you have the DS barely running faster than a Sega Mega Drive under some circumstances.
NDS performance could be seriously bad if you used memory naively, but with good cache utilisation it can be acceptable. It's a system shock compared to most other platforms and especially the GBA which had very sane memory.

>>9694005
Nothing you wrote contradicts anything I actually said. I tried to give a layman's simplification so anon could understand a bit more detail why the DS was comparatively weak/hard to develop emulators for. Nothing more.

>>9694034
"DS is kinda slow and has hardware bugs" is enough to convey that. All the details added beyond that were irrelevant to a layman and annoyingly incorrect.

>>9693929
I understand getting a Steam deck, and I understand emulating on one of the others if you already have it.
I don't understand why anyone would buy a Vita, 3DS, or Switch to use for emulation though. I've emulated on all three and still think you get a better experience out of a cheap Chinese handheld for retro stuff.

>>9694045
What was incorrect?

>>9694058
Vita has the greatest ergonomics of all time, and the most perfect sleep/battery save mode. 3DS and Switch have their native game libraries.

>>9694072
All the extraneous details. ARM7 is only responsible for I/O which isn't timing-critical. Therefore ARM9 doesn't stall on ARM7 in practice. A 16 bit bus doesn't hamper performance, but lots of other things about the memory subsystem do.

>>9694058
A 3DS is garbage for emulation but you get one for playing 3DS games on the OG hardware. A Vita is cool for emulating stuff up until the N64 and PS1 + GB/GBC/GBA games. You get a Steam deck for emulating everything else.

>>9694105
>Vita has the greatest ergonomics of all time
This, and only fat retards with fat ass hands disagree. GBA games feel good on it too since the design is similar to the OG gba.

>rg35xx hasnt shipped out yet
hmm

>>9694058
Emulation is a perk of those platforms in addition to the native game library. Maybe you already own a Switch for Switch games and the emulation is good enough to cover your /vr/ needs.

>>9694136
>Emulation is a perk of those platforms in addition to the native game library
Yep. For example, on top of the being decent for retro emulation, you have the entire Vita/PSP/PS1 library with the Vita.

Yes, the Vita does have games

>>9694105
It's fine, but it's definitely not the greatest of all time. I still think that's the original GBA.
Maybe I'd have a different opinion if I had a 2k instead of a 1k though.
>>9694109
3DS was better at emulation than the Vita in my experience with an N3DS, the problem is that the screen sucks.
Vita still has minor issues with SNES and major issues with N64. Even PS1 isn't perfect, but it's mostly fine for that.
>>9694136
It's a nice perk and worth a shot if you already have them, but if we're just talking emulation, they're hard to recommend other than maybe the Switch if you're not using official joycons.

>>9694108
>ARM9 doesn't stall on ARM7 in practice
Can you elaborate on why you wrote "in practice"?
>A 16 bit bus doesn't hamper performance
I'm sorry, but it really does. Are you thinking this is because Thumb is 16 bit?

Hello, is my "handheld" allowed? I like to play psp and gbc games on it

>>9694105
If you mean the Vita 2k in particular then 100% agree. God I fucking hate snoy now but they really shit out gold with that one.

>>9694261
I once used a setup like that but that controller's analogue sticks had a huge deadzone on Android. Not on Windows, though, such was odd.

>>9694285
The Vita truly was something special.

>>9694245
>Can you elaborate on why you wrote "in practice"?
You could make software that stalls a lot because of ARM7 but retail games didn't. The only interactions they had with ARM7 was stuff like queuing audio commands or reading button states from shared memory. Even if ARM7 was too slow for its assigned role (it isn't - profiling shows extremely low utilisation) this doesn't block anyway.
But you do see IPC with ARM7 becoming a bottleneck in hacky homebrews like nds-bootstrap so I thought it deserved a mention. That's using the hardware for something it was never intended.

>>9694429
Don't a lot of emulators on the DS use both CPUs in hacky ways?

it is an actual fucking miracle that I was able to get these new buttons and the stick in there without breaking anything jesus christ. If there are any other anons with retard jerky gorilla hand dexterity like me that are interested in getting one of these, here's two tips to make your life a lot easier
>only bother unscrewing the 6 screws on the bottom under the rubber feet, less chance to fuck up a certain ribbon cable this way. there's no point in touching the ones on the back like a certain video that I was following says unless you're trying to install the IPS screen
>when the wire connection bits stick on the pins of the buttons you're trying to remove, don't keep tugging like a retard like me and almost break everything. just use a small flathead screwdriver of roughly the same width, place between end of connector and button pin, and wedge up. makes it slide off smooth and easy

what is the ultimate ps2 emulation handheld nowadays? Steam Deck? Odin? something cheaper?

>>9658658
>>9659017
>>9661041
>>9662347
>>9662348
>>9675084
>>9677518
>>9694353
>>9692856

this board is absolutely based af

>>9694742
Steam Deck and Windows handhelds mainly because the PS2 Emu on Android isn't as good. Odin can run some games very well but definitely struggles with the harder games in the library.

>>9675830
someone can probably rig a clock sync with the wifi enabled

>>9675830
What games use RTC besides Pokémon?

>>9694949
golden sun?
some of the digimon and tamagotchi stuff too i thin k

>>9660181
I always wanted that and a gameboy micro as a kid, but looking at them now they look like they'd be uncomfortable

>>9657249
I turned a spare galaxy note 9 into a dedicated PS2 emulator. But I just use a PS4 controller and a clip. Feels great in my hands, if a bit top heavy.
Emulation is actually quite impressive for what it is. Most games play full speed and require no BS settings fuckery.

Anyone considering turning an extra/unused phone into a dedicated emulator: fucking do it. Its so worth it.

>>9694994
I don't know about the go but I bought the micro at launch because I was a nintendo fanboy at the time and it was pretty terrible.

>>9690886
>soi os

>>9694526
Some of them do. I know SNES emulators were able to use it for asynchronous audio emulation.
PSP emulators did something similar with the Media Engine coprocessor but PSP isn't nearly as slow so it worked much better there.

>>9694058
N3DS offers native 3DS, NDS & GBA compatibility, flawless SNES emulation, and of course plays all older systems without any issue.

>>9694045
>"DS is kinda slow and has hardware bugs"
I agree. For fuck's sake, we're talking about a 67 Mhz processor here, with 4MB RAM. Nokia 7650 had a 104 Mhz ARM v9 processor, and it was a 2001 phone. The most you should expect from a device like that is some okayish SNES/Genesis emulation, maybe some CPS/Neo-Geo, but not much more than that. I had a shitty used Huawei phone in 2014 and it had a 1Ghz processor, and it could emulate PSX through ePSXe. there is hardly anything particular to DS per se when it comes to emulation, just the fact that it had a weak ARM processor, and modern handhelds have 100x faster ones.
As for more specifics on why "some games are incompatible", I think it likely boils down to SNES special chips—I'm willing to bet the >>9692804 anon tried Mario Kart, Yoshi's Island, Kirby Super Star / DL3, SMRPG, Star Fox, Doom, etc., and none of them worked—because they were are all special chip games. even games like MMX2/3 didn't work, despite they looked about same as MMX1. ironically, Rockman and Forte worked just fine, since it didn't use any chips.
I guess emulator devs either didn't bother with chips or couldn't implement them well enough. After all, the homebrew scene for DS wasn't huge. It was clear from the get go that PSP was just better for emulation, and after 3DS, very few would bother with DS anyway.
Another issue I recall is, often games' sprite layers got messed up. like you had background objects on top of foreground objects. Frequent issue with SNEmulDS. I guess this just had to do with emulators being way too raw.
And in general, there are always gonna be those games that use awkward modes / tricks that fuck with emulators.

>>9695610
>The most you should expect from a device like that is some okayish SNES/Genesis emulation
It doesn't even rise to that level. GBC is about the limit of emulation on DS. But I do like that GBC emulator.

>>9695627
well, to be fair, I beat Earthbound on DS, and sunk hours into playing MMX. it was ok, if you're ok with ZSNES-grade emulation and some occasional lag.
but yeah, 3rd gen was way better. NES emulation even had a rewind feature. the worst part was always that crappy 256x192 resolution, not enough even for NES. I couldn't even play Sonic games well enough on it, you either scale the games or cut off the screen horizontally (you can guess how well this works in Sonic). then again, they somehow made Sonic Collection for DS. haven't tried it though.
DS was just not there yet for emulation, PSP / 3DS / later handhelds was when handheld emulation started being good.

>>9693882
>>9694005
Great info, thanks

>>9695660
256x192 is sufficient for master system, but I never tried it to see if the emulation is good enough.

The Sonic Collection is just a packaged emulator. It runs like shit. The interesting part is that sometimes it crashes and shows emulator strings.

huen

I was doing some research and found this neat graph, just sharing in case anyone else was interested in my autism.

I was looking at how the GBA screen would look on different screen ratios.

Also my rg35xx hasn't shipped out yet so I'm just passing the time

>>9697265
Based Steam Deck using 16:10

I just dug through my cluttered closet to find my old PSP but the battery expanded and there's no memory card. Should I spend the money on those two things or just buy something else?

Im enjoying the RP3+ for N64 and PS1 but cant get smooth Saturn emulation running on retroarch. Yaba works but the free version is basically a trial for the paid version and I ran out of "installs".

Other than that I've mostly been on my SP I modded. Replaying BN and then playing the sequels I never got to as a kid.

>>9697265
You may also be interested in retrosizer.com

>>9697524
bro you're stealing all the games you play, you can turn that savings into a $4 emulator

>>9697524
>>9697803
>not just searching "yaba sanshiro 2 pro apk" or w/e and stealing that too

Gettin real fuckin tired of """"handhelds"""" like the steam deck. Og psp or rp3 are the maximum size a heldheld should ever be, anything else feelsblike im carrying around an extra testicle

>>9697524
>RP3+ for N64 and PS1
damn, that mother fucker STILL can't run ps2? I just want to play rnc at work and not have it cost 400$

>>9697895
It can run a decent number of PS2 games, but specifically not Ratchet and Clank

>>9658362
Same. I used to be okay with the volume rocker being on the side of the RP3 but once I started using moonlight and playing action games I found that the volume buttons being on the side is fucking horrible. I keep messing with the volume when adjusting my hand to move between the dpad and joystick while also trying to keeping my fingers on the triggers.

The RP2 was a much better format

>>9697784
I had been looking for that site for weeks, thanks.

>>9659110
XL is decent for Monster Hunter but ultimately you want to get a grip otherwise your hands will cramp up hard

We're in autosage, btw.

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