/vr/ - Retro Games

y u do dis

>>9670238
Here's the repair I made.

>>9670238
SFC and PAL SNES cases are the same, the front bit that says the consoles name is a separate piece that you can swap between them
So just get an untested cheap console of either flavor and swap it to your working console. Also stop giving a shit about yellowed plastic, you're not operating a fucking museum.

>>9670250
>you're not operating a fucking museum
I'm not but I'd still like to see my consoles in good shape, unfortunately this one is worse off now.

>>9670238
all you have to do is leave it out in the sun retard

>>9670238
they look better when they're yellow and have some damage, makes them look like they have character. I smashed the shit out of mine with a hammer and then pissed on it and it looks really good

>>9670238
Who cares if some vents on the back are broken? You're never going to see the back unless you pick the thing up and examine it. A few scratches and dings give it character.
>Also stop giving a shit about yellowed plastic, you're not operating a fucking museum.
Yellowed plastic looks like absolute shit though, completely ruins the color scheme of the console.

>>9670329
this

>>9670558
It's really cloudy at the moment, I'll have to try in the spring, possibly summer.

>>9670238
The replacement shells used available from China but due to supply chain issues and the rough political climate it is not worth funding their system. Have you tried 3D printing?

>>9670238
retrobright is a meme. leave it out in the sun and bleach it like god intended.

>>9670243
Cumming on it doesn't equal repair

>>9670558
If yellowing is caused by being exposed to sunlight, how would this work? Or is this some joke?

>>9672145
it's like how chris chan's "information overload" got the trolls to leave him alone

>>9671956
What are you talking about, nerd? The seller is from Taiwan and they're in stock right now.
https://retrogamerestore.com/store/sfc_shell/
In fact this is probably the better option for OP because he can get the optional cover that allows him to use SNES carts without an adapter

>>9670238
send it to a professional

>>9670238
You don't need the hydrogen peroxide solution. Simply leaving it in the sun for longer will accomplish the same thing.

>>9672227
Welcome to /vr/ newfriend. The anon you replied to is a serial shitposter. If you see that table just ignore the post. Do not reply. It feeds off the (You)s of young children.

>>9672418
I know his schtick. I don't care. I'm just here to correct dumbasses posting misinformation.

>>9672227
>120 bucks for a piece of molded plastic
Really now?

>>9672486
Why the fuck are the console reshells so damn expensive when handheld shells are so cheap?

I get it's more material, but the cost of the material should be pretty much negligible compared to the production and handling cost.

Even very simple shells like the Megadrive 2 cost over 100$. It's literally two halves with 2 buttons. You could get a fully functioning Megadrive 2 in mint condition for that price.

>>9670238
>retrobrittle
FTFY. Learn what chemicals do with the material before using them.

>>9672565
>>9672486
Not defending prices, but I work in product design and the tooling process is expensive. When you factor the relatively low volumes that are going to be sold of these shells, they amortise some of the tooling cost into the price. A good quality tool is going to cost up to $20,000 and in some cases that's per individual part.

>>9670238
This is like the third time I've see anons fucking shit up by retrobrighting, even when they followed instructions to a T. Putting me off to the whole process really.

I have a SNES that looks mostly like the one on the right in OP's pic, but the weirdly enough the middle bit (with the logo, underneath the eject buutton) is piss yelllow. Not that much of an issue, but something I thought I should fix eventually. Guess I can either continue dealing with it or paint the whole thing to some funky ass color, retrobright doesn't seem like a safe alternative at the moment though.

>What should I do?
If there's nothing on AliExpress, I'd suggest trying to find a broken down Super Nintendo or Super Famicom and just gutting it, keeping the shell for your console. I've seen some SNES shells the other day, for the European model, see-through plastic - but they were around a hundred bucks a kit, so fuck that noise.

>>9672145
>If yellowing is caused by being exposed to sunlight, how would this work? Or is this some joke?

The Yellowing of plastic is caused by a combination of age, heat, the plastic slowly breaking down on the molecular level, and UV light (common household light bulbs used in lamps). This takes place over YEARS.

Sunlight reverses the yellowing effect if left out in direct sunlight for several days. Sunlight causes the degraded molecules to re-oxidize them and restore themselves to their original color.

It has to be sunlight. Not an artificial light source. Sunlight ONLY.

>>9672145
sunlight through window -> yellowing
direct sunlight -> de-yellowing

That's it. That game was left for years behind a glass display, which itself was directly in the sun through a ceiling window.

>>9672145
Yes it's real. Most people don't do it because it takes many days out in direct sunlight. And people who live in cities can't just leave an SNES sitting outside for 7 days. Especially if they live in an apartment. Other people don't have the patience for it either. They want the yellow gone now.

>>9670238
>What should I do?
Move on seriously.

>>9672145
The yellowing (technically oranging) is actually an intermediate stage of the oxidation process. As ABS breaks down, it produces chemicals called polydienes. These are extremely brightly coloured, and usually purple or orange. The most well known of these is beta carotene, the chemical that makes carrots orange (not that ABS decays into that specific one, mind, in just using that as an example).
However, polydienes are themselves vulnerable to oxidation, and will lose their colouring as they decay further. That is what any retrobriting does: it breaks down the polydienes through oxidation. In order to do this you need some form of energy, typically much more than caused the formation of polydienes in the first place. Direct sunlight works because of the UV and heat, but exposure to peroxide plus UV and/or heat also works. Heat alone would work, but you'd need so much you'd melt the plastic.

>>9672565
Because the world doesn't work the way one silly little child imagines it should.

I retrobrited my white JP Saturn and it turned out brilliantly.
Used the hydrogen peroxide + UV light method.

>b-but just leave it in the sunshine

I live in Scotland.

>>9672887
Picrel

>>9672690
I keep hearing you shouldn't do this anyway because it brittles the plastic. So you're trading physical integrity for a nicer appearance. Which means you're better off just leaving it yellowed.

>>9670238
You need to use Salon Care 40 Volume Creme to deyellow it. Peroxide is not the best way to go about deyellowing a console.

>>9673292
>I keep hearing stupid people saying stupid things. So I believe them
>>9673321
>You need to use this thing made with peroxide
>Peroxide is not the best way to go about deyellowing a console

>>9673468
don't forget, he also specified the highest concentration hydrogen peroxide any normal person can buy

Who the fuck are these idiots? AI? Human NPCs? They just regurgitate stuff they heard while exuding a thick air of "no hands experience"

Do NOT leave plastic in the sun. It WILL make it extremely brittle as the plastic breaks down further. Just make a paste of peroxide and baking soda and BRIEFLY scrub the outer shell. The very top layer of oxidation is all you need to treat. DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING ON IT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. Then rinse it off with cold water .

>>9673498
The sun works perfectly fine. I've got some of the strongest sun in the world so it only takes a few hours but I've left legos out for weeks.
Your method won't even do anything unless you leave it sit for a few hours.

>>9672664
Do you guys not have yards?

>>9672227
They shipped from China to me back then. Maybe it is different now. I have not kept up with things.

There's no explanation for how 3% peroxide penetrates this kind of plastic and causes it to be more brittle. The peroxide only creates the conditions that allow for the outermost layer to quickly oxidize. The plastic that people want to deyellow is often already old and structurally compromised. You could soak a different super famicom for weeks and it would come out exactly as solid as you started

>>9672690
thank you dr 4chan phd

>>9673292
It depends on the composition of the plastic, but generally it's fine if you aren't aggressive. Slow and steady.

>>9673517
>Plastic rot
Ok have fun

>>9673521
I live in the 1st floor of an apartment.

>>9673791
>There's no explanation for how 3% peroxide penetrates this kind of plastic and causes it to be more brittle.
No explanation? Wtf. No.

Anon it's a chemical process that eats into the plastic.

>>9672145
it's a shit post you fucking retard, you're going to fade your lettering and everything. I swear to god you people are fucking idiots.

>>9670558
buddy... boktai's for GBA

>>9674271
>it's a shit post you fucking retard, you're going to fade your lettering and everything. I swear to god you people are fucking idiots.

Anon. Plastic is not so fragile that it will fade and be destroyed after a few days in sunlight. If it were that weak, then thousands of children's gameboys would have been destroyed in the 1990s. Plastic is very robust.

It's legit. Go look up YouTube videos and posts about people doing it.

>>9670238
Retrobrite isn't really a solution. It doesn't last and as you also found out, it weakens the plastic. Just live with it or find a console/shell that hasn't yellowed - some do and some don't as different plastics were used in production throughout its lifespan.

>>9670238
Don't use retro bright. It eats the plastic and makes it brittle and crack. Instead Leave it out in the direct sunlight for a few days.

But the plastic will eventually turn yellow again because of age. You can either repeat the process and use the sun. Or you can buy a replacement case.

This is after 13 days in a Hydrogen Peroxide bath in a uv led box.

>>9674378
Why would you use such weak a hydrogen peroxide mixture that you need 13 DAYS.If you use the correct hydrogen peroxide mixture then it shouldn't take more than 12 to 24 hours.

13 days is a bad joke.

>>9674442
Cause it's all I had.

>>9674452
Did you mix hydrogen peroxide with water? You really didn't need 13 days.

>>9670238
Aren't you supposed to use 12% hydrogen peroxide.. go watch some Odd Tinkering on YT

>>9674289
I just want you to know that I appreciated this post.

>>9672227
Who the fuck would want to replace a yellowed original shell with some overpriced clear chinese plastic? I've replaced part of my N3DSXL's shell with cheap aliexpress shit, but only because the paint job on those things is god-awful and peels at the first exposure to oxygen.

>>9670238
>PAL version
Put it in the trash.

>>9675302
>t.

>>9672617
It's wild that this has to be explained every time somebody sees how much this stuff costs. Molds cost tens of thousands of dollars, and these production runs are very small. The quality is also much better than cheap Chinese AliExpress crap.

>>9673716
I don't think you were paying attention, or you confused "Republic of China" with Mainland China. They are not the same thing. RgR ships from and is based in Taiwan.

>>9675294
It is neither Chinese nor shit. The quality of their products is really, really good.

>>9672617
>>9672865
None of these explain why the handheld shells are much cheaper.

>>9675315
At least it doesn't play games at 50Hz lmao.

>>9675375
>what is a 60hz mod

>>9675382
>50Hz games don't work anymore
It's over.

>>9675370
Cheaper plastic and being produced in far greater numbers, it's very basic economics. The RGR shells use expensive materials and are made in the low to mid hundreds.

I wish they would make a straight OEM colored version

>>9672617
Couldn't someone just print one?

>>9677191
>just
No. No one can "just" anything something like this. It would require skills, tools, and time. All things alien to a "just print one" child.