/vr/ - Retro Games

Is miluda a hero?

>tfw losing your sister

Man, Wiegraf really changed didn't he?

>>961649

>dycedarg

>>961649
>>961658

>that wiegraf edgyness

>tfw no one in this thread

I've never played a ff game before. Should I play this?

>>961691
well, if you have never played a final fantasy game, you might find this game is really different from all the others.

It is a tactical game, but one of the best Final Fantasy's ever made.

why is this game so hard?


Iv played a bunch of tactical games (tactic ogre is one of my faves)
yet this one seems to have a steep learning curve

Gold star game.

it's funny because the best Final Fantasy ever made isn't a Final Fantasy game

>>961701
you should try making Ramza a black wizard. don't be surprised if now your stomping fools left and right.

>>961701
It's not that difficult, could you explain where you are, and what your team looks like? I don't want to spoil you in what's the 'best' thing to do, but, maybe I could give you a few pointers?

>>961701
that's interesting, because some people find this game extremely easy, and play the hacked version, which is rigged to be incredibly difficult

I guess once you learn how to abuse certain strategies, the game gets a lot easier

Then again, even when having the strongest characters, one part of the game really gave me a headache

picture related, it took me 2 hours to find all the special items on this stage, while surviving

>>961701
You... can't be serious.

>>961697
how is he going to find that if he hasn't played a ff game before?

>>961702
agreed.

>>961708
LOL

>>961715
Black mages can be so devestating
>that flare
>that blizzaja

>>961717
Idk, I guess he could play this one first, but it's just not a typical ff

but it's by far one of the best, if not the best.

>>961712
uhh its like the 3rd battle.
random encounter. a few foxes and chocobo against my guys.

>the enemy can get hit and counter attacks yet my characters don't
>they do more damage and hit more accurately than any of mine

its like they want to put the player at a disadvantage

>>961713
I guess obsession is what made this game so easy for some people.

But still, at the end of the day, this game has so much broken shit that it really is easy if you really try. Uber Squire, Orlandu and math skills can drag any sucker all the way to the end of this game.

>tfw hacked my save and added Gaffgarion into my party

shit is good

>>961734
I like how the game put battles like these in it

I almost lost this battle, and I had all death knights
(except for beowulf, whom I was training to learn chicken for nelveska temple)

I wonder if someone can win this battle with just a single character

>>961728
Or maybe you could just use potions, then buy some more of them and get better equipment and skills.

The player pretty much always has the advantage in vanilla. The enemies have shitty gear and skills for most of the game, and the AI can be REALLY retarded.

Your enemies will be using normal potions and attacks even in the last battles because they have no JP. It's pretty sad.

>>961728
Yeah, the game is kind of hard like that, so you need to find away around that disadvantage

For example, use the terrain to your advantage, so the enemies can only come through a few areas

equip everyone the fundaments ability of the squire, and every turn, use accumulate (the move that gives you +1 power)

If you can hold off the enemy for like 6 rounds, you will have a super powered army, and it is also a good way to level

>That feel when you found out Rafa got raped

>>961751
Easy battle, like all of them.
>and I had all death knights
Terrible move. This is like playing Pokemon and using 6 of the same pokemon with the same moves, it only works because the game is super easy. Its a shitty, boring idea.

A team without variety is a shitty team. Use more classes. Healing, nuking, punching, cutting, tanking, status ailments. You gotta have everything...

The main weakness of the enemy team is the same as yours, but monks are powerful as fuck and they outnumber you.

Also, if you want to win it with only one character, Orlandu should be able to do it easily with the right gear. With Math Skills, it's even easier than with a full team. A very bulky Ramza with Scream can do it easily as well.

>>961774
Idk, I find healing characters incredible weak (see white mage)

However, the black mage is incredibly powerful

When a black mage unleashes an "aja" spell in the middle of 8 of those monks, and hits them all for 300, it feels so satisfying.

But death knights are pretty overpowererd, because essentially, you could just keep using sanguine sword, to heal yourself, and deal a whole lot of hp at the same time

>>961780
*forgot picture

Velius was one of the hardest bosses of all time for me

It took me a year, yes, literally a year to find a way to win that battle.

My party was not ready, and far away from being strong enough to defeat Velius and the 3 Archdemons

I remember the day I won, I was so happy, I won by killing the archdemons first and then attacking Velius.

>>961742
Why add Gafgarion? You'll get all his abilities later with another legitimate character.

Not changing Ramza's sign to Serpentarius
Not giving your party members NPC-only skill sets
Not locking down opponents with Olan's Galaxy Stop
It would seem as though you need some new ideas.

>>961787
Velius is this one right?

Man this is a hard battle, but if you make your team a combination of monks and lancers, you could singly target velius, and deal super high damage, and hope he dies fast

>picture related, I trained my team like 50 levels ahead, so I guess it's kind of cheating..

Has anyone played this game through only using a monster army?

like made up of dragons, marlboros, cockatrices, behemeths, and all of those guys

>>961768
>most funny part of the game

Probably when barrington got thrown off the roof by that chick

>>961790
It's not really about his abilities I just always liked his look and personality.

>>961804
I feel like gafgarion was too smart for the job he did.

He always knew what was going on, but he settled to just be a sellsword.

He could have accomplished a lot more

>>961794
well that seems like the same place but it looks modded, I'm talking about this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0DzBONTk80

It's was so hard for me because I was pretty noobish and my party was made up entirely of squiers and knights, nothing else.

>>961804
Meh. I always felt like he had unused potential as a mentor character, but wasn't terribly disappointed when he left the team.

Thundergod Cid, however, remains a genuine badass on the battlefield

>>961812
Oh yea that was this battle.

Oh my god you tried doing that with simple job classes??

You sir, should be proud. That's not an easy fight, especially using those classes lol

Velius is the reason why I always have multiple saves when I play... anything.

He is easy if you know the game already, but for first timers he is a nightmare. Having a bad team and only one save really fucks you up right there.

My face when I just found this scene in my ipad version for the first time

I can't remember if this was in the other versions..

*I added the sword into the picture*

Agrias is such a badass

>>961825
>simple job classes
They are not worse than special classes.

The thing about those is that they require pretty much no thought to be used. But really, a summoner or a time mage can end a battle in a single turn, special knights can't.

>>961832
Well, I think Lancers are just superior knights

And those simple classes could be improved by other characters

But you mentioned time mage..how can a time mage end a battle in a single turn? They are support if anything

>>961713
what the fuck are you playing this on that has that awful windows 98 menu scheme on bottom

>>961828
Holy shit that is perfect.

>>961843
possibly not a single turn, but time mages can fuck shit up.
Stop
Don't Move
Hell, even Slow

They are probably my flavorite status class, obviously aside from Black Mage's who can Frog and Poison. Sad an Astrologer isn't a class, but that wouldn't be fair.... would it? ;_;

>>961843
Hasted Lancers and Monks..............

>>961846
they ported the game to the ipad, and when you need to play FFT on the go, it is a pretty good option :)

>>961856
if you are referring to my edit of it...t-thanks!

>>961857
yeah, time mages can really screw peoples shit up.

Idk, would be fun to have the olan job class, galaxy stopping seems sweet.

>>961858
OP

What is /vr/'s opinion on this guy?

>>961859
Absolutely fucking disgusting

>>961870
Little bitch, especially from that picture alone

Is there a reason you use Dark Knights aside from night sword? Which, I guess is actually called Sanguin Sword or some shit

>Oh boy! Final Fantasy tactics Advanced finally found an oppoent for a versus match!
>7 paladin/ninja hybrids
> just_kill_me_now.jpg

>>961843
Meteor.

If you use Meteor well, it rapes everything. You can't always pull it off, but you always have secondaries and status ailments/haste to use.

Time Mages are amazing. Summoners and Lancers are overpowered.

Except for the Calc, every single class in this game is good when well used. The problem with classes like the Dancer, Bard, Geomancer and Mime is that the game is so easy that most battles can be finished way too quickly for them to be too useful. For this game to be really interesting, you kinda have to want it to, and use more complex setups that aren't really necessary. Otherwise you are just gonna spam swordskills and win.

>>961875
Ehh, it's a pretty good port, as far as ports go.

I mean, yeah, I guess that blueish part is ugly, but it's still the same game

>>961885
Yeah, they made some of those complicated classes a little unnecessary

But I find the game still fun, even using death knights..but having variety makes it a little more challenging, which adds to the fun

>>961882
They have a few other abilities which are quote good

One move is like night sword, but stronger, without the life steal

And 2 other moves that deal damage to the knight, but deals damage in a radius of the knight to everyone around him.

So death knights are good for taking out groups of enemies, or single enemies, pretty all around badass.

And, it's like you are gafgarion

>>961870
he was of great help during the first battles

I hated seeing him betray everyone like that ;_;

When you get Orlandu, game is pretty much over. He destroys everything and everyone in one hit usually. Excalibur is a fucking nasty sword too

>>961902
lel

>algus
>delita
>actually being helpful at the battle of dorter

they could not even kill the single archer

>>961904
excaliber is super nasty
>that equip haste

>>961905
I've never played the PSP version
Are they good defending against magic and shit? I assume yours have Blade Grasp or Sunken state to help them avoid physical attacks

>>961895
>but having variety makes it a little more challenging
Not necessarily, if you actually know the game. This game is way too easy. Even solo Ramza is easy.

A crazy team like mime, dancer, bard, summoner and monk is pretty much unstoppable if you play well.

>>961910
their magic defense is pretty ok, it depends on the shield you use, and the accessory I guess

Naa, I use auto-potion

With a bravery of 70, it gives them a 70% chance of restoring 150 HP with an X-potion when hit

Helps a lot

>>961902
>he was of great help during the first battles
Unless you try to save him. Then he acts like a retard and gets killed before you even move, like someone else we know.

Fucking Mustadio.

>>961914
that is why they have that fft hacked version for people who want to make the game super challenging

Forgot the name of it though

>>961916
But isn't that rather offset by being able to use the Sanguin Sword ability? Or do you tend to just charge in and use the radii attack

Quick, answer the question

>Blade Grasp
God, that reaction ability broke the game and turned all incoming attacks into single-digit-success-chances.

The only thing you needed to worry about was some mage with a quick cast.

>>961910
They are not as bulky as you would expect. They can drain MP, though. That fucks casters up even if you can't kill them.

If you want to resist magic and not use it, just get 0 faith.

>>961637
FFT
Best Final Fantasy or greatest Final Fantasy?

>>961934
n-not sure which answer to choose...

sweaty.jpeg

I liked ffx, 8, 4..

But tactics truly is a masterpiece, so is 10 though

To me personally, it is close between the 2 for the top spot

>>961927
Fuck Algus.
Destroy the Death Corps.

>>961938
I feel like if algus was alive during our time, he would be a raging racist

Speaking of which, were their any black people in FFT besides that one dude who looked partially black who worked under goltana?

>>961941
>de algus

>>961923
If you are talking about 1.3, I already finished it. Some battles can be about as hard and frustrating as it gets without being impossible.

Even if you finished vanilla, playing 1.3 makes you realise that you don't really know shit about Tactics.

1.3 makes the game completely biased towards the AI, which is pretty much the only way to make this game hard, since the AI kinda sucks.

>>961927
I always pretend not to know that he is an asshole and save him. It's what Ramza would do...

>>961951
oh dam, I didn't know 1.3 was that hard

>>961953
you are too good of a person

>>961951
So the Velius battle can't be done, basically. zzz

Greatest plot twist in FFT?

tough question, since there really were a lot of plot twists..

Picture related, my opinion

>>961941
Algus probably hates "them niggers", but they couldn't show that, because we can't let the fucking kids think that racism exists.

He would probably be a homophobe, a christian and a republican. I say Algus for 'murrican president next time.

>>961967
I could not have said that any better myself

>a homophobe, christian, republican

That is so algus, except he might not be christian, because I can't remember if he thought the gods abandoned him

>>961962
I just pretend I don't know because Ramza didn't, and I try to stay "in character", because besides that, fuck Algus, fuck his rotten corpse in the ass. Shit in his skull's eye sockets and spit on his mother's grave.

>>961974
when I was young, I felt bad about algus

And as I grew up, I realized too that he was a rotton piece of shit

He was a good character for the game though, especially one built upon deceit

>>961971
If he existed, he would be a christian. He would also be in the military to shoot some civilian 'sandniggers' and rape their kids in front of them. It's just the kind of guy that he is.

Gotta love when a character is meant to be and actually is hated by EVERYONE.

The gods didn't really abandon him. The god(s) in this game are demons.

>>961969
*plot twist*

>>961969
>The Princess finding out she's not the real Princess
>Delita's sister being killed
>Delita telling you he will kill you if he has to. Makes you think an upcoming battle with him will be eminent
>Dycedarg killing Duke Larg
>Ovelia killing Delita in the end (SPOILER)

Christ. Almost every other battle had some sort of happening I had no idea where the game wanted to go with next

Almost every other battle had me saying WHAT THE FUCK. Does this game even know what its about?

>>961986
Lol, a few months ago, I had a tactics thread go to 500 posts, and so many of them were talking about how much of a dick algus was

good shit

>>961991
Oh fuck, this one was a huge plot twist

>zalbaags face when

>>961991
Lmao, I felt like the game at times did not know what it was about either

>Wiegraf killing gustav in a duel

I was like, wut?

>>961828
>>961991
oh shit, so that is where ovelia got the knife to stab delita with

>>962001
Zalbag... he is a dick too. He watched Algus kill Teta and didn't even care at all. Not even a word.

Balbanes would be really disappointed, two out of four were fucking douchebags.

DoucheBAGs.

I was sad that they got rid of the calculator class in the sequels. It's too much fun killing everything at once using numbers.

>>962005
LOL.
I forgot about that one too

>>962014
Ya can't help but feel somewhat bad for him. He was just being used. When he finally realized what was going on... it was too late... death by his half-blood's sword..

>>962009
Yeah, that was a pretty good tie right there. I don't really understand why she did though. He promised her he would make her princess. Where was the actual úsing her as a puppet' shit put into play?

Basically, everyone fucking dies by somebody.

>>962017
Sequels? If you mean ports, they didn't. At least in the PSP version there are still calcs.

Really cool idea, but too powerful and hard to balance without making it suck. Also, the actual class was so bad... and it doesn't even make it hard to unlock, at least for generics, because of propositions.

>>962020
She felt like he was only using her like a tool, in order to take over the world, and shit.

Ovelia didn't want to have power and she didn't want more people to die. Also, she thought that Delita killed Orlandu and got Ramza and the others killed as part of his plot.

Delita made her feel like shit.

>>962035
>Typical woman. Makes assumptions and doesn't talk it out
What a BITCH

>>962014
I think zalbaag is inbetween dycedarg and ramza

He isn't a saint, but he isn't a villain either

I think douchebag is a little harsh for zalbaag, because in the end, he tried to do what was right, even if it would get him killed. (lucky for him, ramza came in to save him)

>>962020
>everybody dies by somebody

I just realized, if someone made a list of this, it would probably be pretty cool

Islud : death by father Vormav

Gustav: slain by Wiegraf

Wiegraf: Slain by Ramza

Orlandu: Slain by delita/death in mullond death city

Duke Goltana: Slain by delita

Teta: killed by Algus

and the list could go on

>>962047
I guess so. I guess I will call him "kind of an asshole", then. Or just blind. He could be blind.

>>962041
Could have been avoided if Delita just told her everything, though. I guess she could have just asked before stabbing, though...

Trivia: What drink does Ramza order? If any?

>>962056
I like blind

When you try to analyze him, at first I think he is kind of stupid, like jock/athlete stupid.

But he really is pretty intelligent. When he finds out his brother may have killed his father, he investigates into it, hiring an apothecary to do some work.

And he is a leader, and calls dycedarg out for betrayal.

So he isn't stupid, but I think blind is a good word.

>>962051
Orlandu: Slain by delita/death in mullond death city
Delita killed the fake one. The story doesn't really show what happened to Ramza's allies, though. Orlandu probably lived. He probably lightning stabbed space-time continuum so hard that everyone was teleported back to safety.

>>962057
Milk.

>>962057
>>962057
The milk is to go in a White Russian. He gets fucking loaded off of them and then goes to rape Agrias. Only she is forced to stay with otherwise Ramza would kill her if she spoke out.

>>962063
aw shit, I just realized I need to edit that picture

I'll do it next time, and take the answer out

nice though

>>962067
>agrias is raped theory

I have heard a lot, and this one is really funny

Some say she got raped at lionel castle

>>962060
>that sad part when Olan realized his dad died

real talk, that ending was pretty emotional to me when I first beat the game

>>962073
Orlandu doesn't die, he lightning stabs. Dying is not part of the holy swordsman's skillset.

>>962069
I would rape Agrias. And Rapha.

>>962075
Orlandu is such a badass

"I didn't get the name Thunder God Cid for nothing"

or he says something like that

>>962069
Well, considering the church in this game is pretty much the catholic church, it's pretty safe to say that everyone in this game has been raped at some point.

>>962047
Douchebag IS too strong a word for Zalbaag.

Zalbaag's problem is that he was weak willed. A born follower, unable to make the hard decisions. He looked up to his older brother Dycedarg, who had a much more forceful and charismatic personality. Zalbaag wanted to believe that Dycedarg wanted what was best for everyone. When he shot Teta, he believed her sacrifice was justified to end further suffering because Dycedarg said so. Even when his brother murdered Larg, he believed that Dycedarg was acting in the interest of Ivalice as Larg would be an unworthy lord.

...but Dycedarg fucked up when he murdered the one person Zalbaag looked up to more than him. That was the only thing that could snap a milquetoast tool like Zalbaag out of his "big bro knows best" stupor.

As flawed a character as Zalbaag was, he WANTED to believe he was doing the right thing. I genuinely felt sorry for him in the end. He was just so painfully, tragically wrong and clearly not suited for the position he was placed in. At least politically if not tactically. That's where nepotism gets you, I guess. Thanks a lot, dad.

>>962076
mods are asleep

time to post agrias

>>962081
That was perfect, thank you.

This analysis is the best thing I have read today, because it is 100% true.

Now that you put it in my mind, the reasons he did the things he did was because he bought into the "dycedarg is doing what is best for ivalice" and followed him blindly thing.

what else is interesting is that when you girst get to Lesalia castle, he believes Dycedarg over Ramza, and then says Ramza's common blood has tainted him, and that there is a reason they are only half brothers.

Kind of messed up, how does Ramza forgive him for saying such shit to him?

>>962083
posting agrias booty

>>962083
>Agrais2.jpg
meaning there are.... Agrais 1 + possibly MOAR?!

>>962090
Ok /vr/, choose one, and choose wisely

>>962093
y-yes

Some better than others though

>>962081
Good point.

Really, in this game, good people fuck up and do really bad things. Pretty real, if you ask me.

Delita had good intentions, but he turned everyone against him with his lust for power and selfishness.

Wiegraf had good intentions. Ramza didn't understand that and accidentally killed his sister. Wiegraf's despair made him take the wrong path for the sake of revenge, and in the end he was corrupted by his own hatred.

I am sure there is more...

Well, basically, hail Satan.

>>962094
Mediator.

>>962093

>>962107
interesting taste anon

I myself fancy the squire

then the knight

then archer

lastly, wizard

posting my favorite move just cause

>>>/vg/

>>962117
How can you even have a favorite move?

Well, if I have to pick a single one, I say phoenix down.

Good move. After that more than half of what this game has is tied for second.

>>962118
But it's retro..

Making a /vrg/ would be overkill...

>>962112
`>dat non-ass
Compared to
>>962090


>>962094
>most rapeable
Priest. Obvious reasons
Thief. Spunky and looks ready to take a weiner to the face
>most badass looking
Samurai
Oracle
>overall best in game
Summoner
Ninja

>>962120
It's easy, hallowed bolt is just awesome, the aesthetics are beautiful, and it is strong

I like Night sword second

>>962124
I knoww, I like the picture of agrias with that ass

The priest is pretty hot, she looks so innocent

>>962123
>>>/vg/

>>962129
pls go

>>962128
What would you say
Is your favorite combo of classes. With overall moves?

>>962141
Personally, I change my setup for each battle, and generally try to change my team all the time.

I think the most common thing for me is a caster with talk skill or an oracle. Most of my teams have one of them.

Mimic Daravon is fantastic.

>>962141
with death knights out of the equation..

one black mage: uses the 4th tier elemental spells, and flare.

1-2 lancers plays tank role

1-monk: physical attacks, and plays role of healer/revive

1 ninja: physical attacks

it's a pretty good combo, but it's fairly simple, I'm pretty sure some other guys out there have some real fun ones

>>962051
Alazlam compiled a pretty good list, heh. I'll list all the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

Gustav is slain by Wiegraff in Zeklaus.

Miluda is slain by Ramza's squad on the cliffs of Lenalia.

Teta is shot by Algus on Zalbaag's order at Ft. Zeakden. Golagros is also shot, but kills himself blowing up Ft. Zeakden.

Draclau murders Bart at Lionel Castle. Ramza duels Gafgarion and kills him at Lionel. Draclau reveals himself as Queklain of the Lucavi and Ramza's squad kills him.

Delita kills some advisor to Goltana at Zeltennia. I forget his name.

Simon is murdered by the Templars at Orbonne. Wiegraf also technically dies at Orbonne, but his body gets trotted around by Velius for a while afterward.

Velius is killed by Ramza at Riovanes, but not before Hashmalum can kill his "son" Izlude. Barinten caps Malak, but he gets wished back. Barinten gets tossed off the roof to his death.

Zalmo is killed by Ramza and Delita at Zeltennia.

Timeline starts to get hazy in my head around here. Balk is killed in Bed Desert at some point by Ramza and co.

Goltana is assassinated by Delita at Bethla. Larg is likewise assassinated by Dycedarg.

At some point Ramza heads to Limberry and kill Celia, Lede and Zalera. Then heads back to Igros to see Zalbaag kill Dycedarg, then get wrecked by Adramelech, who in turn is killed by Ramza's squad.

Zombiebaag is put down by Ramza. Rofel is killed by Ramza and friends at Murond. Kletian is killed in Murond Dead City. Hashmalum too. Also Ultima.

Ramza and his friends get nuked by Ultima's final attack. Many insist because of the ending montage that they all survived somehow. I have my own problems with that.[/spoiler[

Ovelia is stabbed by Delita. Delita is also stabbed, but it isn't clear that he died to his wound.

>>962159
This is a great list, thanks for posting this

good read

>>962159

>>962157
>mimic
Never played as one. Always wanted to but never have.
>oracle
Never saw much use. Don't really deal damage, but I do enjoy status ailments

>>962158
>lancers

I notice everyone likes Lancers in the game. Is there some basic beastmode to them that I am missing?

My tank tends to be:
Knight
/Throw
Blade Grasp
Concentrate (for throw) or auto potion for life
Move +2... +3 if I wanna make him a bard too for that shit

Shield + blade grasp with low faith? Yes please. Or should I change this to a Lancer for some basic better reason

>>962171
I just think lancers are superior knights, longer range, faster, jump, javelin2

and I like teleport for my move ability, teleport on everyone haha

and autopotion on everyone

>>962175
teleport is lovely. I just get too pissy when it fails
Blade Grasp makes me happy. But autopotion is near quintessential for early boss battles.

Jump is pretty good too.. Always hated that Izlude battle in the underground book storage or whatever

>>962171
Mimic Daravon is a Mediator skill.

Mimes are good, though.

Just give an Oracle Black Magic or Summon and they deal damage. Also, their poles have MA based damage, so their physical attacks can be really good too. Silence Song gets rid of casters permanently, Paralyze, Sleep and Petrify pretty much just take anything out regardless of HP.

>>962175
>superior knights
It depends. If bosses weren't so easy in this game, the stat breaks would be more useful. They are super overpowered, but not so useful when you can just kill everything in one hit. And... knight swords.

>>962181
loll. I meant mime as a class. But mimic daravon ya, thats good

I guess I should play as them more. Status ailments are more appealing to me than straightup physical damage generally. They can invite people too, right? or are those oracles

>>962180
same, izlude just keeps on harassing your characters with jump, and he has the platinum sword way in advanced

I may give blade grasp another try, I remember using it once years ago, and you really don't get hit by physical attacks

>>962183
I actually used speed break on construct 7 at nelveska temple to get the rare items there

Speed break and power break are so powerful if you can get a lot of those hits off successfully.

You could literally stop an enemy from having any more moves with speed break, it is awesome.

>>962061

>sidesreducedtosubatomicparticles.apng

>>962184
Yes, mediators can invite.

It's really good for mages, since it's MA based and doesn't cost MP, and there is no casting time. So, if you can't use a spell, just mimic daravon.

>>962185
The speed break is awesome. The Dancer can slow all of the enemies down at once as well, and if you want to get even more turns, get a Bard and make him raise your speed. A Mime can copy every single song/dance as well.

That shit works really well. This game is too easy for its own good. So many super powerful underrated classes.

The Geomancer is also ignored, and it's good.

Need tips badly against this nigger in 1.3, sandbagging fest.

Zerging him doesn't work.

I'm starting 1.3 Easy and is there anything I _really_ need to know? I got it for the supposed fixes and stuff that'll help me avoid the temptations of cheating.

>>962215
Disregard this, I suck dicks.

>Position all of my mage on the front and equipped them with various boots (+1 movement)
>Previously I equipped all of them with Defense Ring to prevent fucking Mimic Daravon.
>Make my White mage wears better robes so she's targetted with Holy instead of fucking Alma.
>My White Mage has Counter Magic, so she will counter Zalmo's Holy with 70% chance.
>Ramza casts Mind Ruin so she doesn't die
>Fucking Zalmo's barrier works, he's protected with Protect + Shell
>White Mage casts Shell to protect herself
>Zalmo's Holy resolves, ~100 damage.
>Counter Magic doesn't work
>My Black Mage casts Dark Holy (~100 damage)
>My Time Mage casts Dark Holy (~100 damage)
>Lancer jumps (40 damage)

Zalmo is criticalled, and run.
He should died earlier if Counter Magic works.

Note of the day :
AI loves killing, especially target with bigger HP.
Alma's brave is 39, and I can't expect her counter Magic to work all of the time, so I convince Zalmo to switch his target.

>>962240

Related: I'm in the intro battle, and from this at least, it feels SO MUCH MORE FUCKING BALANCED (less d20, more 3d6) than vanilla.

>>962240
Easy Type is damn easy, it's like a tour to see all of the changes in 1.3 before you're preparing for the real 1.3.
Enemies have random ability instead of fixed ability that have synergy which makes most battle a joke.

Like, enemies summoner with Basic Skill or Battle skills, and with attack up support ability, shit like that.

Or, Monk with weapon guard.

This is how challenge like TDD or SCC is possible in 1.3 easy type.

>>962253

Well, I find vanilla to be kind of challenging for the wrong reasons. Easy type is enough for me I think. The AI is a hell of a lot smarter.

>>962256
Anyway, if you have problems, try watching Maxi's playthrough on youtube at difficult battles (like Golgorand), he gives commentary on why he do certain actions.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF6435094185F342A

I've already played FFT many fucking times but I'm still learning a lot from him.

>>962251
>(less d20, more 3d6)
What the fuck does this even mean? Are you some GURPS-using retard or something?

>>962261

No. It just seems more consistent. 3d6 creates a bell curve, d20 is flat probability,

>>962135
needs to be a shirt

>>962292

Are you saying he made her transition from girl to woman?

>>962261
>GURPS-using retard
Are you one of those incredibly dull people who gobble up every new edition of D&D due to brand loyalty?

>>962489
He comforted her with his dick.
Probably raped Malak too

>>963475
Malak didn't get raped, just rafa was implied

see

>>961768

>>964892
this is so true

the current run through of the game I am playing, I am only using generic characters

But Death Knights are kind of cheat-mode also..

Don't do it ramza, it's a trap!

>>964986

Visually this looks tidy as fuck. Has somebody made a patch for the PS1 version to have these updated visuals?

>>964992
Not sure, but they just recently updated the graphics for the ipad version I think a month ago or so. It's really weird, they changed the look of the weapons and armor very slightly

But it is very crisp visually, I like.

>>964992
>>965000
It's like HD graphics

>>965000
I'm shocked they kept the original font.

I thought it was against Apple's policies to release any old video game on the iPod/pad/whatever without some shit-ugly unfitting font.

Does anybody know |why| l...i...t...t...l...e... m...o...n...e...y... happens on a technical level? Is it just standard J->W text inflation issues or what?

I have is for PSX but couldn't get into it. The battle is good but I found the script to be kinda droning and dull. After awhile I stopped paying attention and had no idea what was going on. Maybe if I had gotten the game when it came out things would be different. But I happened to get it around the same time as Disgaea and enjoyed those characters more.

I don't like the FFT art style. Maybe because everyone looks like they have the same dad. Not that Disgaea doesn't suffer from something similar for many humanoid classes. This just looks odd though. I might give it another go some day.

>>965003
are you talking about like programming?

if so, I have no idea..

>>965003

i always assumed it was slowed for emphasis, but represented with fewer characters in japanese. then when it was translated it came across as really awkward because there was a delay between each letter.

>>965016
Yeah, I thought the slowed letters were for emphasis

I think it was more annoying that awkward, but both really haha.

I'm glad the ipad version put in a "skip" option to skip text scenes any everything

If you played the game through a hundred times, it really speeds it up to just skip all the scenes and text, and only watch what you really want to

>>965003

>>965038

>>965041

>>965042

>>965043

>>965048
10/10

>>962094
Lancers are rocking the red comet pretty hard. Thats all I need

Would any of you be interested in playing 1.3 (Easy or hard) hot-seat via Mednafen?

>>961664
Is Wiegraf's sword edited? I don't remember him having Zidane swords in the game.

>>962086
Ramza is a saint, that's how. Ramza was too good for that world.

>>962094
>calculater

Every time. Damn OCD.

>>965106
Mednafen is buggy at playing FFT, you'll notice the extra animation that appear from nowhere when you strike enemy with sword.

It's obvious on the 1st battle.

tl;dr :
Mednafen / Retroarch is shit at emulating FFT.

>>965194

Really? I haven't found any issues.

I wanna try FF Tactics, which should I buy and what exactly am I getting into in terms of complexity?

>>966143

Don't buy it, download the PS1 version and emulate. Authenticity is important.
</opinion>

>>965107
Yea I edited that picture, I gave him and Ramza weapons for the fuck of it, I was bored

>>962094
1.squire
2.archer
3.knight
4.priest
5.oracle
6.ninja

Is there any rom hack that replaces the shitty generic blonde-haired puffter for another sprite/picture?

Current Party.

01. Ramza
>Battle Skill
>Guts
>
>Equip Change
>

02. Victor
>Yin Yang Magic
>Basic Skill
>Weapon Guard
>Maintenance
>Move+1

03. Abraham
>Steal
>Basic Skill
>Weapon Guard
>Defend
>Move+1

04. Crawford
>Black magic
>Basic Skill
>Weapon Guard
>Maintenance
>Move-Find Item

06. Helen
>Punch Art
>Battle Skill
>Weapon Guard
>Defend
>Jump+1


They made Basic Skill/Guts SO much better in 1.3, especially with the way Wish works.

>>961701

the game does have a steep learning curve. i remember getting hopelessly stuck at dorter when i first started playing, and some battles caught me off guard (namely, wiegraf and the assassins).

however once you hit a threshold of understanding the game gets ridiculously easy. plus you can grind as much as you like.

>>961846

looks like the iphone version.

>>966224

I would like to add, HOLY DICK MONSTERS ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN THEY USED TO BE

>>966132
Can't reproduce the issue anymore, but I definitely see it.
I'll try to record it as gif next time.

>>966224
Make sure to change your Black Mage to Summoner before chapter 3 / level 22.
Black Mage will be useless as tanks will start wearing Fire Shield / Ice Shield that will half / absorb your AOE Blizzard.

>>964986
>auracite

>>961969
Forgive me, but what mod are these screenshots from? I see several. Wondering which is the best.

>>966893
The "mod" is the iphone remake of the game.
The original FFT doesn't have the extra classes like the Dark Knight.

Not /vr/ material on its own, I suppose

>Travelling on the world map between borders
>Suddenly approached by random battle consisting of like three times the maximum allowed party limit of only monks
>Heart stops for a second as the camera rotates around the battleground knowing that you'll be pummeled to oblivion

>>966935
Yeah I realized that shortly after posting.

Which mod is better 1.3 or Rebirth?

man, meteor was so disappointing in this ge. it took forever to cast, did mediocee damage and more often than not backfired on me

>>961751
Chocobo battlrs werr worse
>fuck your meteors, red chocobos
>WHY IS YOUR CHOCO BALL EVEN MORE POWERFUL BLACK CHOCOBO?
>yellow chocobo heals and runs
so angering

>>961768
she got raped a whole bunch on that roof since I don t level NPCs and the teleporting one hit ko assassains loved fisting her

> that feel when due to poor graphics you didn't understand Ophelia was stabbing Delita in the final scene for years
I learned it rewatching the ending on youtube three years later

>>966975

I love 1.3, so in my opinion 1.3 :P

But that's probably just because I've played more of 1.3 than I have of the unmodded game.

>You now remember OFS

>>966893
>>966935
It's not the iphone version of the game, I'm not sure if they actually have an Iphone version

But the one where all my screen shots came from was on the ipad, it costs like 17 bucks or something, but it's worth the money

I would get one on the PSP or the Ipad, they have the death knight class which is pretty cool

>>967282
what is this picture from?

>>967602
The End of Evangelion + Ramza (obv lol)

>>967535
cool thanks for the info!

Does anyone here know how difficult it is to get the anti-lag mod for the PSP version working? I'm assuming you have to get custom firmware. I'm always nervous I'm going to brick my PSP when I do custom firmware, and I haven't done it since PSP pretty much came out.

I've been playing that one with a cable linked up to my T.V. so I don't have to kill my neck playing, but the lag is pretty tiresome after a while. I'm pretty much at the end now but all the grinding I want to do is daunting because of the lag.

Is there still no proper PSP emulator?

>>967763
The CFW these days is simply a program you run once, and that's it. Turn off the PSP to reverse it, run restoration to fix it. It's foolproof and any idiot can do it.

>>966459

My end party (haven't explored all the 1.3 content yet, so classic skillnames/jobs) will hopefully be

>Bard
>White Magic

>Time Mage
>Talk Skill

>Summoner
>White Magic

>Monk
>Thief Skill
(+ the dual wield ability because DOUBLE PUINCH)

>Thief
>Basic Skill

>>967763
I would just buy the disc for PSP

>>967763
there is a patcher that doesn't require any external files when playing. you can find it here:

http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=9523.0

it fixes the lag but the issue of stretching the game's resolution to the psp's screen still remains, if it bothers you.

>not playing the superior PS1 version

>>961678
His dedication to saving the nobles was impressive.

>>967071
this, fuck the wiegraf fight i got killed so many times on this roof the first time through i quit and didn't finish the game until years later, also it's on one of those castles that you can't get out of so there's not even any grinding or organization you can do to make it work

>>967535
There is an iphone version which also has the hires upgrade, so I assume it looks pretty much the same, except on a smaller screen. It has all the new classes as well.

>>971884
I'm playing through FFT for the first time just now and am trying to do it on my own as much as I can. The Wiegraf fight was tough indeed, but I finally somehow slugged through with Ramza as a monk with heavy armour, regenerate, lifefont and chakra plus black mage w/ flare, white mage w/ holy and agrias for the followup.

Rooftop was actually surprisingly easy cause after I one-hit-ko'd one of the assassins on my second try the fight was over.

>fft 1.3 yuguo woods
>full of undead that's at least 10 levels higher than my highest
>giga flare/dark holy'd 4 times in a row before i can even get my turn
>rest are prot/shell/innocent/haste'd

fuck this mod. also, a daily dose of rage when consistently missing 80%+ attacks every fight because lolprobability.

>>972047
White Magic is very good in this fight.

Status effects rock the undead as well, though they are less reliable.

>Grog Hill 1.3 hard type
>Fucking rain cut down my Asura's potential to 75%
>Kill most enemies
>One frogged enemy Samurai left
>Okay, time to steal the loot and revive that fucking Chemi-
>Forgot to bring Steal secondary on Ramza

Fuck, I'm not in the mood to redo the battle again and steal the damned Magic Gun.

>>962168
>that wiegraf

>>972008
oh ok, damn must take some persistence to play on an iphone screen

along with draining it's battery

>>966935
It's the same game! don't question it!

>Nigger Woods 1.3 Hard Type
>Resets, resets, resets
>Undead, undead everywhere with Unholy Champion (Innocent, Protect, Shell, Haste)
>Dark Wizard / Dark Time Mage has innate Defense Up (read : Your lancer is shit at ohkoing)
>Dark Wizard / Dark Time Mage has Short Charge (read : killing him when he's charging is near impossible)
>That fucking OHKO Dark Holy and 100% Throw Spirit (because Ghost has innate transparent)

My way to win this shit :
All mages to counter Blade fucking Grasp
Reflect ring on everyone / Carbunkle to avoid Dark Holy OHKO
Aegis Shield on everyone to avoid Giga Flare
Counter magic to counter Giga Flare damage
Mustadio as Ninja for double Seal Evil (because Engineer with Gun + 40% Seal Evil is shit)

>>976970
>nigger woods

what

This game is just too fucking good. I just want FFT2. That and Pokemon Snap 2. The two sequels I would sell a kidney for.

>>977929
But there's Final Fantasy Tactics Advanc-

>>977992
FFTA isn't bad, actually.

Story is entirely different and "childish", but not in a way that would scare off most people. It's more like a well-executed fairy tale that even adults can read and have fun with.

You can "break" the game with overpowered skills and such, but you can do the same in FFT just as easily.

The only problem is that FFT has a balance mod that deals with these issues, and FFTA doesn't (well, technically it does. but it's shit)

As someone who's been playing FFT since the game has come out, I have to say I still love this game. I've seen it grow from the start and it's still easily one of my favorite games of all time. I've most likely only pumped more hours into one other game, and I've beaten just about every fan mod a few times over. I've done just about every s/scc out there, and now, I'm just thinking what I can do with it now.

>>978150
Similar shoes, I can give you an idea...

Try beating it using only a monster party/ramza

So in the very beginning of the game, grind like crazy at mandalia plains, and turn Ramza into a mediator/orator

Then, make your party, and use only monsters

It could be fun, I have not done it yet, seems hard though, until you get to like red chocobos/black

>>978142

Fuck the judge system, or umpire, whatever the fuck is in the battles.

No one should penalize you for attacking the way you want

posting golagros' life tale in picture form

Golagros, thief? noble killer? or misunderstood?

>>979336
>Golagros meets with Wiegraf at the windmill in Fovoham plains

>>979338
Golagros gets pushed back to fort ziekden, and he has no choice but to make threats, fear for his life is on the line

>>979336
He....
He was a good man.

>>979338
golagros is a bitch

>>979343
>Golagros gets taken by surprise, as Zalbaag orders the shooting of his hostage, Tieta, and then gets shot himself.

He died too soon, then again, he probably was never destined for a big role in this game

>>979352
perhaps, but all he was looking for, was a way out.

>>979336
Golgaros was a fucking punk.

Taking hostages. He wasn't ready to die for his cause, he got what was coming to him.

I probably would have bitched out too

Ah, the infamous Aries nigger 1.3 hard type.

After a few fucking resets here's my note on this fight :
>Concentrate on Ramza is shit, should replace it with Two Swords.
>Move-HP UP is shit, your mobility will be crippled, replace it with Move+2, Ramza doesn't need another HP restore ability against Wiegraf with Blood Sword / Cheer Up.
>Counter Magic is a must, every time this nigger summons Titan / Salamander / Ramuh, it will actually backfire to his underlings, or to himself.
>Jade Armlet is shit, Mock Strike should take care of Velius' Brave so he'll never Counter Flood, and whenever he's using Seal, my unit with Throw Item can throw Soft and cure the petrify.
>Mind Ruin is a must, unless you want to be Cyclopsed to death.
>You need bait, a Wizard that always in critical (don't restore her HP) is great as a bait so Velius target her with Summon and get Counter Magic as return.

Overall, Aegis Shield + Elf Mantle works great against Velius summon.

>>965038
>>965041
>>965042
>>965043
>>965046
Won't lie, gave me chuckles

something tells me i'm not going to enjoy stealing equipment from this guy.

on the other hand, i wish that all battles were like this in the way where luck doesn't factor in when deciding if an attack lands. using probability for evasion is a pretty dumb idea for a tactical game and it becomes more apparent once you realize that most fights are all about manipulating the early turns' odds until you gain enough of an advantage to steamroll the opposing team's sandbagging. i'd much rather prefer the evasion probability formula be replaced with something like damage percentages instead, such as taking 50% more damage when flanked or 100% more from back attacks. that way you don't need to see matches where the outcome of a battle can be decided in a single move, and losing because of that ~20% isn't really enjoyable to swallow down.

so I'm playing 1.3 and just got marche, goddamnit he is like 10 levels higher than everyone else forcing me to do some grinding.

I figure I might as well do some poaching, got a couple of tonberry knives for my ninja/thief, anyone got advice on what I should poach?

>>966152

this, I didn't much care for the elizabethan take on the dialog, it was way too convoluted. I'll take the simple translation with occasional engrish anyday.

>>962215


if you have two casters with flare2 give them whatever speed items and have them blow the living fuck outta zalmo right off the bat.

I knocked his shit in before the third turn, if you use a hard hitter to kill or critical one of squishy priests they'll forget all about zalmo.

>>962240

I'd honestly just play hard mode, if you get a copy of hard mode, and a copy of easy mode, the saves are interchangable, if you get too frustrated, switch to easy mode and wreck shit.

what's the better version, GBA os PS1?

>>981994

GBA is a different game

the PS1 game is MUCH better

>>961927

option one gives you a permanent brave point

>>981898
>that way you don't need to see matches where the outcome of a battle can be decided in a single move, and losing because of that ~20% isn't really enjoyable to swallow down.
This is why I don't like 1.3.
In a good strategy game a single bad roll should not cost you the game, as long as your planning is sound. It might set you back or force you to re-evaluate but it shouldn't outright end it.

In my experience a lot of these "hard mode" patches for games really just turn them into a combination of puzzle game and slot machine.

>>981994
God fucking dammit.

>>979895
t-thanks

i know this is retro but

is the PS1 or GBA game better, especially for a beginner?

>>961701
One of your favorites is Tactics Ogre and you think FFT is hard?
I thought FFT was a walk in the park and Tactics Ogre consistently frustrates me. Teach me your secrets.

>>982324
They're not the same game.
FFTA is more beginner-friendly.

>that feel when everyone here knows those FFT feels

>>981940
This is complete poaching list for 1.3.0.7, but I rarely poaching, I don't like gambling with 10% chance.

>>982462
I've never played 1.3, should I give it a go?

if so, what should I expect, in terms of difficulty, and strategy maybe

>>982472
No, go play a better mod that isn't filled with stolen content and is closer to actually being FFT instead of trying to be its own, shitty, game.

If you want recommendations, Laggy Fantasy Tactics, FFT+, FFT Kind Of, they're all fairly different, just read up on them a Google search should reveal them.

>>982489
alright thanks, I'm always searching for ways to play the game differently, and I guess those options are available

>>982472
>I've never played 1.3, should I give it a go?
Yes

>if so, what should I expect, in terms of difficulty, and strategy maybe
Strategy :
AOE damage (black mage) for chapter 1-2.
Switch to Summoner / Sage for chapter 3-4 when Reflect Mail / Reflect Ring / Flame Shield / Ice Shield is common.

If you lost the battle, think. What went wrong in that battle, go look for advice or watch other people's 1.3 video on youtube.
Typically, if you reset more than 10 times for a battle, you enter that battle with wrong strategy.

CT manipulation (Haste and Slow) is very powerful.
If you can't kill a tanky unit, just slow / ignore him.
For every turn he gets, you'll get twice.

http://www.insanedifficulty.com/idwiki/index.php/Final_Fantasy_Tactics_1.3

>>982504
man, that sounds exciting, difficulty wise. I think I'm gonna play 1.3 soon

I want to try something that really tests your tactical strats

Cont from >>982504

Recruit strategy :
At the start of the game, kick ALL of your generic units (as they have shitty Brave & Faith & Zodiac compatibility).
Sell your Power Source (Elixir) and Holy Water.

Recruit :
- 3 Females : one will become White Mage, the other two will becomes Black Mage.
- For males, you'll want 65-70 brave and 60-65 faith. Don't get males with low faith (~40) as your White Mage will do shitty healing on them.
- For females, you'll want as high faith as possible (65-70) and high braves (65-70).
You'll thank me when your Counter Magic works often.

You can always learn from the AI and copy their build.
That Monk is fucking hard to kill because he's using Equip Armor ? Copy that build.
That 2 Archer on the top is hitting you hard with 100% accuracy ? Use Concentrate + Timed Strike.
Heartache Strike fucks up your mage ?
Use Heartache strike against enemies mage.

>>982462

awesome, thank you

btw if you don't want to level you can always capture the monster in question, breed it, and kill them at sweegy woods or something. Reset if you don't get your item.

>>982609
>not calling it swaggy woods

>>982489

dis nigga just mad because he sucks and can't beat the first battle on 1.3

>breeding 4 behemoths for meteorain party against japanese bird river 1.3 hard type
>get this bitch
>coincidence ?

>>983409
Actually I was part of the modding team that made it. It was a group project before Arch threw the world's biggest bitch fit, claimed it as his own, and ruined it, If you really want to play it I'd recommend 1.3030 as the last good version of it released. Aside from that, I believe there are much better mods out there than what 1.3 has become.

>>983705
>threw the biggest bitch fit

please elaborate, sounds like a good story

>>983705
i wish i read about this before i started my run through 1.3.07. i switched from psp to psx because the 1st battle had rad as a berserker and who knows what other random shit is in it. archael's version was better but i would still prefer the rebalancing to stick with the original script. if 1.3030 fulfills that goal then i think i'll drop my current run and restart with that.

>>983957
>that picture of miluda

fuck algus fuck him right in his oh so mighty patrician faggot ass god i hated him. i want to replay the game right now just so i can fucking kill him again.

what is this tactics 1.3? another game? different jobs? i'm confused.

>>984554
I'm assuming it is the same game, with different jobs, and buffed up enemy units. Also perhaps newer weapons/armor

Hopefully someone who has played the game could explain this in depth

>>984554
A difficulty/balance hack that is notoriously bastard hard. The later versions toned the difficulty down several notches and added some new content.

>>984560
>>984561

i read through more of the thread, gonna figure something out.

i feel like murdering the fuck out of algus

>>984579
glad you feel inspired to do so

>tfw during your first run through of the game who knows how long when, and you thought of him as a good person, although a little delusional when he requested troops from dycedarg. Then as the game progressed, you developed a hatred for him, as it is obvious he is a bastard, abusing people left and right, and all in all, a pretentious bastard

just saw the trailer for 1.3, what in the fuck did i just watch

>>984586

dude i was 16 and full of angst when i played this, hes still one of the most hated characters ive ever had the pleasure of killing in a video game

i remember trying 1.3 and the first battle took ages despite being almost entirely on autopilot. Everyone was throwing pots and revives like it was candy

>>984586
I liked wiegraf better before he died, and the lucavi took him over.

He seemed like a real cool guy, just fighting for his sister

>>982472

I'd probably recommend 1.3 Content over the full blown hardmode but;

General advice:

Status effects accuracy and speed have been improved a lot. Status effects are extremely useful.

Excessive grinding is bad, Skill crystals good.

If you insist of playing 1.3 then a thief or poacher is essential.

Orlandu is no longer a walking god. In facts he's probably one of the weaker uniques now.

White mage is an extremely good class.

Inner party Zodiac compat isn't required to beat 1.3, but it is extremely helpful.

>>983957
Different anon
Here's Archael's side of it.

http://www.insanedifficulty.com/board/index.php?/topic/207-a-short-history-of-final-fantasy-tactics-modding-and-fft-13/

>>985331
>orlandu is no longer a walking god

>white mage is a good class now

I don't want to live on this planet anymore

>>985347
On the plus side,
Agrias, Cloud, Meliadou are now up there. Malak is too sort of.

>>985338
Oh god, this drama is good

>>985349
how is agrias as good as/better than orlandu?

>>985364
Orlandu lost the ability to equip hats and clothes. Major stat nerfs. His skillset was nerfed as well.

Now only Agrias has the full set of Holy Swordskills and can still use perfumes.

>>985369
oh ok, it's a shame he got nerfed so bad I guess

I'm actually tempted to play the archael made 1.3, seems legit

>>983957
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=5554.15;wap2

http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?topic=5620.5;wap2

just stuff like this and I believe there was some drama over IRC, but I forgot what it was about.

>>985347
Well, in regular FFT if you revive your party member with Phoenix Down + multiple X-Potion to restores his HP, you waste 2+ turns.
With White Mage, you only waste 1 turn with Life / Full Life spell.

It's just that in vanilla, you can break Zodiac demon's speed to 1 and Life Draining / Demi 1 it for 999 HP each turn so wasting 2+ turns for each dead party member with Phoenix Down and multiple X-Potions are not really a problem

>>961941
I fucking hate this guy.

>>982236
>Agrius
>dat bulge

Pic not related.

>>986473
>cherry blossom limit break
>20000 turns later
>its nothing.

>>985381
He went on, acted like a creep to everyone and everything, actively insulted everyone, started openly insulting the admins and then when the mod gave him a temp ban to tell him to cool his jets he deleted everything on the site related to 1.3 and ran off to his own forum.

He's still claims he's done everything on his own regardless of what >>985338 says.

That's what happened on IRC anyway, he's one of the most disgusting people I've ever had the 'pleasure' of knowing. I've seen some shit man.

>>986473
>"..." is "whatever"
>Cloud is Squall

>>986330
I could see the white mage being useful I guess, especially if you need that life restore with the revive

>>986619
cloud confirmed for based squall

>>986610
shit, the story goes on apparently

I love this shit

>>987579
Not really anymore. Things have settled.

>>976970

I just finished this fight

I had a 15 speed dancer put haste 2 on my team and let her go to down with nameless dance

I ended up confusing a bunch of their units, including one of the black mages who then promptly took out half his team with meltdown

shit was hilarious

that feel when 9 day old FFT thread

Aren't there multiple versions of this? PS, GBA, etc?

Which one is best?

>>989842
There are three games with the Final Fantasy Tactics name. The 1st one, Final Fantasy Tactics, is for the PS1, PSP, and iOS. There are some differences between versions.

Then there are Final Fantasy Tactics Advance for the GBA and Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Grimoire of the Rift for the DS.

Allright, now I want to play FFT.

Which version of «the original» is the best one to play?

>>989963
The PSP/Ipad version, I believe it is called

FFT: War of the Lions

It is basically an upgrade, by adding additional scenes, battles, content, jobs, weapons/armor

with the only drawback being the dialogue change from brash american english to old style england english

>>990441
Did they fix the slowdown that was in the PSP version for the iPad version?

Or else was a fix found for the PSP version?

>>990509
yes, glad you recognized that

if you are referring to the slow parts that had to do with magic casting, potion using, etc

That has been fixed, and is at the same speed, or slightly slower than the PS version (it is a good speed)

The only thing noticeable that War of the lions does not have, are the dialogues when casting a spell or something in a battle

picture slightly related

after looking around at some of the drama over 1.3 I saw this hack over on ffhacktics
http://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?board=60.0
it looks like there's 2 versions of it and one of them isn't done and isn't going to get finished because the guy making it abandoned it. does anyone know anything about it? is it worth playing at all?

God fucking dammit, the assassin in the South Bethla is a pain in the ass to handle with Power Source + Angel Ring + 100% petrify / dead.

I'm gonna take North Bethla route, kthxbai.

>implying Engineer Rifle is useful with the speed nerf

>>990518
>same speed, or slightly slower

It's a little faster, actually. I've actually seen people complaining about it, believe it or not.

>>991028
CCP is one of my favorite mods ever released. It's not a super balanced hack, but pretty silly and quirky. It's not a lolpatch, but it has a lot of charm and work put into it. I'd recommend it full heartily

>>961751
Anything with Blade Grasp lolololololol.

In FFT1.3, I'd go with this:
Knight/Monk Ramza with Speed Save, Defense Up, Move-HP up.
With Light Robe/Estucheon II and Feather Mantle.

Run around the edge of the map until your speed is high enough to unleash the rape train. Until then, break their Phys to oblivion.


>>961796
Yes with Chocobos. Red Chocobo army + Monk/Squire Ramza = lol

>>961843
Lancers even make FFT1.3 easy. Boss battle? HASTED JUMPING LANCERS OF DOOM! Boss battle that rapes your army? HASTED LANCERS WITH ABANDON + SHIELD + MANTLE OF DOOM! Boss battle with lots of magic dmg? HASTED LANCERS WITH MOVE HP-UP AND REGEN OF DOOM! Shit's OP, yo.

>>962260
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF6435094185F342A

That version of 1.3 sucks dicks. Use the earlier versions. Also, the only thing hard type does compared to easy type is punish you less for failing to kill bosses in one turn. That's it. Nothing more than that. Hard type is just hyper punishing if you gain too many levels. Hard type you need to be lvl 15 or below for the last fight of chapter 2, easy type you want to be lvl 18 or below. Huge difference in terms of monster scaling and the amount of restarting you have to do.

So I haven't played this game in a while, but I remembered stopping my last playthrough cause I couldn't beat Velius. I was just using Ramza and monsters and it was fucking tough. Anyone ever do a monsters run successfully?

>>992674
>>961796

uhh>>993090
This is me. Sorry for not checking first.

>>993103
You basically need to breed monsters with best compatibility with Ramza and Monk rez/heal them and buff them with Yell.

Sometimes you can't use Chocobos because they're too squishy. I remember using a Treant thing on a few fights and skeletons quite a bit; skeletons being expendable is awesome. Used quite a bit of hit and run, too. Chocobos are extremely mobile and I abused the shit out of it whenever I could.

>>991763
Bitch is down.

>equip my White Mage with Magic Ring and Barette so Mindflare can't do anything against her (since Magic Ring absorbs Aqualung and Barette neutralizes Mind Blast)
>steal the bitch's armor so she doesn't retreat and petrify but still lowering her HP
>Cast Haste on my entire party
>Hit her with Two Sworded Monk
>Smack her with Gold Staff to remove her Reraise
>My hasted monk gets another turn before she gets her, and kill her. (Monk really sucked dick at dealing damage to unit with Protect + Defense Up, should replace Ramza's class to Samurai + Attack Up)

Man, that was easy once the Assassin gets down, I'm ignoring the Squid and proceed to focus on the Sage and the bitch with Engineer Rifle.

>>993090
Red Choco all the way

Does the PSP version have better interactions with party members after their arc? I hate it how awesome characters like Agrias become lifeless in significant story scenes after you have actually gotten her.

>>993860

i take it this is the remake?
also, has anyone pointed out that ramza wears assless pants yet?

>>993103
Red chocobo, ghost with drain touch, anything else. Rush him, it's the best bet.

>>994185
It's FFT 1.3.0.7
Damn, I love stealing shit from unit under depth 2 water.

Next target for stealing is this petrified Knight with Cursed Right. It's a shitty useless ring, but I'll steal it for perfection's sake.

He's really dangerous with Two Swords + Ice Brand + Black Robe, which is enough to OHKO any of my unit.

>>994150
Actually, it does. The PSP version has several new side-stories and scenes featuring those "abandoned" characters. Even Alicia and Lavian have their moments.

>>994150
>>994390
this, keep all of those members in your party, because there are sidequests for a lot of them

As for agrias, there are a lot of scenes with her

>>994701
The agrias moments were cute, thanks for uploading those pics

>tfw feel bad for killing Zalera

Undead niggers everywhere in this fight, they can't crystalize in 1.3, so Frog 2 / Seal Evil is a must to ensure they rest in piece in the corner.

Remember that sometimes Zalera can use Despair 2 to cure that petrified frog, so don't give them too many negative status.
One frog / petrify is enough, more than one and Zalera will cure it.

Alternatively, you can poach them (except the Undead Death Knight w/ Maintenance) with Secret Hunt.

>>996542
>ever feeling bad for killing Elmdore in his demon state

He always reminded me of Michael Jackson for some reason

Hey guys, FFTA thread happening here:>>>/tg/26656922

>300+ posts
>no one mentioning the most operator as fuck unique chara

you all deserve a leg aim

>>989868
>Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Grimoire of the Rift
I've put way too many hours into this game.

>>989868
And then there's Final Fantasy Tactics S.

>>997446
If I found FFTA to be fun, but shallow and nonreplay worthy, and FFT to be god's gift to god, would I enjoy FFTA2? I own it, but found it hard to get into for whatever reason.

>>997610
It's interesting enough, a few extra races/classes and breaking a law didn't toss you in jail.
It takes a while to click with it, I feel.

Ah, the suicide bomber nigger.
Easiest Zodiac boss I have encountered so far, thanks to his innate suicide ability.

Do not bring maintenance.
I repeat, DO NOT BRING MAINTENANCE.
Dycedarg's Mighty Sword can be easily nullified by absorbing all of his MP.

Do not give a shit about Golem (ability that block all physical attack), Adramelk will constantly cast Meltdown (ability that damage 999 to himself and 999 AOE damage) after you deal at least 999 damage to his HP.

Bring as many units as you can with Throw Items + White Mage with Reraise to ensure revival, get two units on lower floor with Teleport to resurrect unit on upper floor, so he can't kill all of you with Meltdown at the same time.
Fuck up his MA with Mind Ruin so he doesn't have any choice but Meltdown.

>>997326
>mustadio
>that kid who got himself in trouble, and almost killed if it were not for ramza

how beta

>>998935
how do people beat this shit?

>>1001638
You haven't seen anything yet.

5 colliery sluts.
All these gurl gamers have :
- Level ~40, White Knight Job
- All Sword Skills (Orlandu's vanilla Sword skill + Death Knight's skill + Mighty Sword + Monk's skill)
- Innate Defense UP + Magic Defense Up
- 350 HP without any armor
- 200 MP and Move MP Up (nuking their MP with Dark Sword / Bizen Boat is out of question)
- ~40 faith (nuking them with Summon / Flare 2 is out of question)
- 3/5 have Concentrate (100% accuracy)
- Always:Protect (because Save The Queen)
- Two Item user (with Power Source / Elixir)
- 10 - 12 speed (so most of them always move first and cast Lightning Stab / Statis Sword on you)
- Immune to all status
- They zerg you straight from the start (no wandering around in the corner), because the AI "pathing" issue is fixed

And yes, I beat this fight and stole 3/3 Save the Queen swords.
Thanks to Dycedarg / Adramelk from previous fight that taught Ramza godlike ability to use in this fight.

You know what's better than 3 enemy units with concentrate and 2 enemy units with Elixir ?

Welcome to 5 Engineers Battle.

>fucking AI pathing is fixed, engineers will not chill around in the corner anymore
>4/5 units have Item (with Elixir)
>dual summon gun (guaranteed to ohko any of your units)
>immune to all status
>lol 25 MA Draw out
>100 Faith (max Magic Gun power)
>gun can't be evaded

Crazy battle, but you're a retard if you don't abuse their 100 Faith and use Dark Holy on this fight to massacre them.

Wizard that's charging Dark Holy with Equip Gun + Hamedo is the best bait against these niggers.

Watch their CT, don't recklessly put them into critical if you don't have anyone else that can kill them before their turn, or they will use Elixir.

Cont from >>1004326
My strategy :

- Speedy Onion Knight with Excalibur + Thief Hat + Carabini Mail + Sprint Shoes (12 speed) to guard the entrance so the Draw Out bitch doesn't come out. She needs 12 speed to move first (18 speed with excalibur's haste) because the male engineer inside has 15 speed.

Later she will equip change to Dragon Whisker + Salty Rage. She serves as punching bag for the 25 MA bitch, and will try to damage her with Rafa.
- Rafa will follow her, and use Sky Demon against the trapped unit
- Revive any of your dead units
- Ramza (with Gun + Hamedo) as Wizard and another female Wizard (with Gun + Hamedo) will charge Dark Holy to make enemy units target them
- Marche (with Gun + Hamedo) and his Omega will serve as instant damage dealer to kill weakened units
- Prioritize the trapped unit and the one with Two Swords Ice Brands, don't hit the gunners until you deal with them.

Any tips for a FFT newbie? I've no idea how to develop my characters, don't understand why counters don't work sometimes, I'm so lost. ;_;

>>1004451
Develop them however you like, early on make sure to keep item readily available though.

All reaction abilities rely on your Brave. For example, Ramza has 70 brave at the start, that means he'll have a 70% chance to counter.

>>1004451
>don't understand why counters don't work sometimes
Reaction ability (Counter) depends on brave, if your Ramza's brave is 70, that means 70% chance for it to work. You can raise your Brave to 97 with Mediator's Praise skill in vanilla.

Tips ?
How to break vanilla in easy steps :
1. Speed break the zodiac demon until 1
2. Target it with % HP ability (Demi, Life Drain) for 999 HP damage each turn
3. Check boss weakness (Zalmo is vulnerable to Berserk, Velius is vulnerable to Silence, Altima is vulnerable to Don't Act)
3. Blade Grasp with 97 Brave for 97% protection against physical attack and 03 Faith for near invisibility against Magic Attack
4. One unit with Math Skill and 97 Faith (Ramza), cast Height 3 / Exp 3 / whatever + Holy to kill anything that moves.
5. Bare handed Ninja with Martial Arts, or Monk with Two Swords, best melee attackers in early chapters (before you can dual wield Chaos Blade for double 999 damage).

>>1004461
But are there any useful beginner abilities that I'll miss on if I change classes right away?

And any basic strategies I can rely on in battle?
I'm at the Siedge Weald battle and if the mages don't kick my ass, the archers and the knight does. ;_;

>>1004468
Sorry I meant the battle at the merchant city, after the siedge weald.

>>1004465
I think that'll be useful 10 hours farther into the game, but thanks.

>>1004468
Dorter Trade City II ?

Get arrow guard if you have problems with Archer, and use AOE damage from Wizard to wipe the enemies.

Generally, your teams should consist of 2-3 mages (wizard / summoner) , 1 unit as Monk with Chakra to heal your Wizard's MP.

>>1004479
I've a chemist with black magic, will it keep item throw if I change the class then?
And should I scrap the white mage?

Also do I lose my characters if I win the battle with them passed out?

>>1004481
Chemist has innate Throw Item and you'll lose it if you change your class.

If you want your Black Mage to throw items, you should learn Throw Items for 350 JP and put it in the support ability of your Black Mage.

White Mage - depends on the battle situation, if you need the Cure 2 for the AOE heal or Raise / Raise 2 to fully revive your dead party member, keep her.
If you feel Phoenix Down / Potions / Hi-Potion is still enough, keep using Item / Chemist.
Since Ether isn't available in Chapter 1, you should always bring Monk to heal her MP.

But White Magic is a good investment in a long run, as you need 2+ turns for Phoenix Down + multiple Potion to fully heal your party member, while Raise / Raise 2 only need 1 turn and he'll back to action.

>Also do I lose my characters if I win the battle with them passed out?
No, you'll lose them only after their death counter reach 0, they'll turn into crystal / treasure box.

>>1004490
Thanks.

Got a bit closer to beating it now, just rushed for the knight and wizard. Pisses me off that Ramza knocks the wizard down to 1HP instead of killing him though, and that ruins my strategy a bit. Oh well, giving it another try since I let my white mage die a turn from winning.

>>1004497
By the way, how do I know what tiles are gonna be affected by magic when I cast a spell? Seems to be somewhat random.

>>1004504
>what tiles are gonna be affected by magic when I cast a spell? Seems to be somewhat random.
It's not random, different magic has different AOE & vertical tolerance.
When you cast Fire 1, it will affect 1 AOE, with 1 vertical tolerance.
Fire 2 has higher vertical tolerance, 2.
Press select on that ability to see the description.

You should do the Tutorial section, it explains many things, including Magic.

>>1004716
Shit, forgot about that, you're right. Guess I'll spend some time on the tutorials then.

>>961728

I always hated fight Chocobos, specially on the first two chapters when your units where too weak to kill them, and two yellow chocobos could easily outheal your damage.

Best thing you can do is try to take him down, or weaken him enough to make him run away and heal himself while you kill the rest of the enmies. This is best done with ranged or magic attach since chocobos always counterattack melee as far as I remember.

I can't find the Accumulate ability, playing the PSP version here. Is it "JP Boost"?

>>1005231
Nevermind, realised it's called "Focus"