/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9653715
>the Game Boy similar to playing on the NES
Dude, what?

>>9653715
The Game Boy had Tetris.

>>9653715
Game Boy cost half as much, had Mario and Tetris, and didn't kill $8 in batteries before noon.

>>9653715
Only 11 million people could afford that many batteries
>the Game Boy similar to playing on the NES
Which one have you never played? Both?

Game Boy cost 90$ and lasted like a week on 4 batteries, the Game Gear cost 150$ and drained 6 batteries in the time it took me to double check what their launch prices were.

Too big.

Sega also botched the Game Gear's marketing. Nintendo established some rock solid synergy between the NES and Game Boy and later SNES and Game Boy that made them feel like a pair. You couldn't see one without thinking of the other for a while.

Meanwhile I didn't even know the Master Gear converter existed until the 2000s. And I literally could not find the TV Tuner in stores. I would see it in catalogs and wanted it so bad but I couldn't buy it. Eventually my aunt got me an actual portable TV and that scratched the itch. I don't remember Sonic 2 on Game Gear getting the same marketing push that Super Mario Land 2 or Donkey Kong Land got on Game Boy.

>>9653715
6 AA batreries in like 3 hours
No games

Now the Nomad? That should have done better

>>9653807
The Nomad's crooked ass screen rattles my OCD something fierce.

>>9653807
>Now the Nomad? That should have done better

the Nomad came out late in the genesis's life and was only available in North America. SOA actually took the Mega Jet and added a screen to it. The MegaJet was a device that Sega made for airlines and even sold in Japan as a plug and play Mega Drive.

>experience almost similar to MD
?? it's a portable master system

>>9653736
>>9653741
>>9653738
You could plug it into a power brick. Unlike the gameboy, it has a backlight and is very usable indoors.

>>9653807
Nomad wasted it in 1 or 2 hours. But just like the GG and Lynx you're suppsed to play it while plugged in.

>>9653846
>you could make your portable system not portable

>>9653809
oh yeah fuck that. thats some ghetto ass gameboy zero shit

>>9653860
99% of the time these were so you could play vidya when family wanted to watch tv

>>9653878
I mostly played my gameboy on road trips and on vacation. It wasn’t until the DS that I really actively played my handheld at home.

>>9653715
took me like a minute to work out what MD meant. You people and you're acronyms

>>9653910
I shiggy diggy

>>9653846
? The gameboy is way harder to use outdoors than indoors. Try it for yourself on a sunny day.

>>9653856
Yeah but it had games

>>9653807
You should play Game Gear Jurassic Park, it's probably one of the better Jurassic Park games.

>>9653841
I actually did not know this, neat

>>9653809
But isn’t it so edgy and cool???

>>9653939
I actually have it but my Game Gear needs recapped. Assuming it can even be saved, since I’ve put it off for a while now.

I loved my game gear. Backlit screen, those big rechargeable battery handles, and a car adapter made for perfect road trips.
I had a gameboy fat too but I only really bought it for the pokemon craze. To me something without a backlit screen isn't portable at all.

>>9653715
The same thing that killed all of the other competitors to the Game Boy - battery life.
This is why Gunpei Yokoi was a brilliant engineer.

>>9653878
This was only the case for kids that were friendless losers.

>>9653983
I mean this fully unironically but it takes a good engineer to realize that sometimes what looks worse on paper is going to work better in reality

>>9653910
>you people

>>9653985
Nah I had plenty of friends and I still spent a shitload of time playing stuff like Link’s Awakening in bed with my shitty magnifier light thing or whatever. Me and my siblings also played Pokemon around the house a lot

>>9653846
this is the dumbest sega fan cope.

>>9654016
Nah I’m a Sega fan and I would never pretend the GG’s battery life wasn’t a huge crippling issue

>>9653901
Same. If you were going somewhere for an extended stay as a kid in the early 90s you often would literally have nothing to do during downtime. Places often wouldn't have cable so you couldn't rely on watching Nickelodeon and you'd be too young to go out on your own so unless you wanted to sit in a chair and stare at the wall or watch the evening news you'd want to at least have a Game Boy handy to hold you over between dinner and bedtime.

>>9653715
I love the Game Gear, but its library just didn't have enough worthwhile games compared to the Game Boy's library.

"But it could play Master System games too", you say that as if the Master System had a lot of worthwhile games too, it really didn't.

>>9653846
I had everything that you say and still it was harder to see than the GB pocket that I got later

>>9653846
Always hilarious when this cope is used by a child who would have a meltdown if it was only able to use the phone its posting while plugged into the mains.

>>9653878
What is this obsession with children making up total bullshit about things that happened long before they were born?

>>9654019
fair, im not implying all sega fans, im a sega fan too

>>9653983
Nintendo being primarily a toy company really shows. More modern "tech" companies would just YOLO their way through it and make things expensive and flashy and hope people would just deal. Nintendo would zero in on the most significant problem and build around that.

>>9654027
>What is this obsession with children making up total bullshit about things that happened long before they were born?
Social alienation.
Their lives are completely starved of interactions that were just bread and butter for earlier generations.
They are so desperate for any kind of a connection with another human being they have to resort to outright bullshitting.

>>9653983
Including Tetris instead of Mario Land as the pack-in was also a stroke of genius.

>>9653860
Technically they are still portable
They used rechargeable batteries

>>9653989
Engineering is all about compromise.
You'll almost never be able to achieve a perfect solution to a given design problem, only the "best" or "most adequate" solution.

>>9653715
because sega sucked nigger dick always has always will.
face it yuro

>>9653910
it's yuropoors that call it a megadrive.

>>9654109
And the Japanese.
It was only called the Genesis in Shartland because of trademark issues.

>>9653715
MD? Try the Sega / Master System. It was not fun to play.

>>9654116
>Shartland
You’re gonna have to explain the etymology here to me

>>9654123
Because Amerimutts love to shart in the mart.

>>9653809
Holy God why the FUCK did they think that screen was a good idea lmao

>>9654128
Boy, it’s great to see the epic lore Yurops come up with due to Americans occupying 70% of their daily thoughts.

>>9654046
holy shit you post like a faggot

>>9654143
I’d rate his post about an 8/10 and yours to be about a 0/10, so I guess the faggy one wins ya silly goof.

>>9653985
oh really? so when you were being a winner with your friends you were staring at a fucking tiny lcd screen? I was playing baseball or catching snakes and frogs with mine. but yeah you were the cool kid playing your gameboy outside and I was the loser playing mine while my parents watched some gay shit on the living room tv my nintendo was hooked up to.

man this board has the biggest concentration of utter faggots of all the boards. every day I am fucking astonished by you gay nerds

>>9654142
It's hilarious the copes mutts come up with to deflect from being laughed at for public defecation.

>>9654148
of course you would. a faggot like you would love faggot posts like that.

>>9654143
Your impotent rage is showing, so clearly I'm right.

>>9654047
True, Tetris is infinitely replayable due to its RNG based gameplay. And since the guy who invented it didn't register it (until 1998, I think), they didn't have to pay any royalties. It was pure profit, and it moved a shitload of units.

The Game Boy got a second wind with the Super Game Boy giving some more life to the aging hardware and an even bigger third wind with Pokemon. So its not quite apples to apples. Nintendo just really knew how to keep that thing going way beyond what even they probably expected back in 1989.

this is the actual reason:
>gbp $69
>gg $150

>>9653715
I had one when they came out.
I distinctly remember having to get my parents to stop so we could buy an entire case of batteries just to use on a 1 day car trip to the beach one summer.
I had like 50 games for the thing and I only really enjoyed a handful of them. You HAD to wear cargo shorts for the thing to be remotely portable.
The backlight and color was great, but I much preferred my sisters Gameboy.

>>9654046
It must be pretty bad. They seem so desperate that they're willing to completely humiliate themselves and cause everyone to despise them. Just to have some sort of interaction? Any idea what percentage of the generation so broken?

>>9654202
>super gameboy
Not really
The gameboy pocket though

>>9654021
This. I had a Game Gear. Between the size, lesser library, the screen that required upscaling via magnifying glass, and power requirements of an F-14? Not viable as a portable. It was a novelty because it promised more than Nintendo. Gameboy simply had a better design philosophy. Hell, even Lynx did a better job in terms of being too cool for its own good. In practice I brought books and magazines and wondered why my parents wouldn't let me touch grass on a trip.

>>9654349
And the Game Boy Colour was the final flex.

>>9654157
Imagine being so assmad you have to weave elaborate fictions about your childhood in response to low effort trolling.
Go outside.

>>9654374
Game Gear feels like a continuation of the early-mid-80s "impractical but cool" philosophy (like those faddish handheld TVs of the period), whereas the Gameboy is more of a "less is more" design, focusing on improving the one aspect which impacts user experience (specifically, battery life).

>>9654426
>Gameboy is more of a "less is more" design, focusing on improving the one aspect which impacts user experience (specifically, battery life).
Yokoi named his design philosophy "Lateral thinking with seasoned technology."
It's what informed his design of the Game Boy and the Game & Watch. Take a well established technology that was cheap (in this case LCD screens) and find new and innovative ways of utilising it.

>>9654428
>new and innovative ways of utilizing
Bro, it's just a screen. It just displays things.

>>9654438
Wow, another zoomer who has no understanding of historical context.

>>9653715
The same reason the DS mogged the PSP and the 3DS mogged the Vita.
Games.
>Tetris
>Mario Land 1-3
>Fucking Pokemon
>2D Zelda that barely compromised on LttP's formula
That's not even going into shit like DK '94, Kirby and such.
What did the Game Gear have beyond severely compromised Sonic that had shit-all screen real-estate and didn't go fast?

>>9654047
Why do you think?

>>9654459
Except the PSP had Monster Hunter which was the most played game in japan at the time. Hell the PSP MH3 was the best selling Monster Hunter untill the multiplatform release of MH World. Literally no MH could touch it's gigantic sales number for a decade. And it was only released only in japan at that. The only explanation is that nintendo is a cult of people that only care about the brand.

>>9654467
As well as psp sold, there’s no comparison to the DS sales

>>9654470
Which is insane because no one plays DS games anymore but there is a huge online community of people still playing PSP games.

>>9654473
lolwut?

>>9654474
Phantasy Star Infinity and Monster Hunter(any flavour) have people playing them 24/7

>>9654478
Oh you meant online multiplayer. Sure, the PSP had better online.

>>9653715
because the Game Gear was a pile of fucking shit.

>>9654486
I'd say it was the reverse: it was excessively ambitious for the state of late-1980s portable LCD and battery technology. To paraphrase one of Jeremy Clarkson's car reviews, it would've possibly been better had it been worse in certain respects.

>>9654027
Do you talk about children on the internet because you have failed to produce any children of your own? I’m not sure criticizing other people’s ideas about toys is a substitute for having a family…

>>9654453
The historical context is that a display technology... was USED! To DISPLAY things! My mind be destroyed by the revelation! Surely people are screaming in excitement when they turn on a light bulb.
It's literally just using a technology so. Using a diode to emit light is innovative. An LCD display, less so.

>>9654581
All of the Game Boy competitors that underperformed or failed are proof that trying to be ahead of the times can be just as bad as being behind the times.

>>9654606
And at the time the main thing LCDs were being used for was calculators.
Holy fuck you're a retard.

>>9654610
Being behind the times is never really bad in my opinion

>>9654614
If it can be used for display in calculator, it can be used for display in a handheld gaming device. So it's even less innovative, Nintendo wasn't even the first one to put LCD display into portable devices.
Why are you dead set on dying on an LCD hill?

>>9654610
>All of the Game Boy competitors that underperformed or failed
The Neo Geo Pocket Color failed mainly due to chronic mismanagement, rather than technical flaws.

>>9654625
And why do persist on being so completely fucking ignorant?

>>9653741
>lasted like a week on 4 batteries
you didn't own one
>>9654258
>You HAD to wear cargo shorts
jncos, nigga

>>9653715
I had this when it came out. Someone stole it and I don't even feel that much of a loss lol.

>>9654653
You are trying to convince me that digging with a shovel is somehow innovative. I'm just saying, the shovel is created to dig, and people dug with shovels before.

>>9653715
game boy didn't sell 112 million, nintendo has combined its sales with game boy, game boy pocket, game boy color, game boy light. This is like nintendo saying "the nintendo system sold 112 million units" when talking about the super nintendo because it combines two almost identical names.

game boy did sell better than the game gear, but real estimates are around 20 million more, not 110 million. By 1995 both handhelds had run their course and were successful, then pokemon came out and nintendo discontinued the brick and sold new models, released the color next gen model a few months later and still for some reason counted it as the same console. Complete dishonesty.

>>9654467
PSP had a handful of good games but it doesn’t even begin to touch widespread appeal. A lot of its “best” games were just downgraded ports of console games which, while technically of value is not really going to drive people to purchase it the same way a new exclusive to the system title would be. Why would I want a watered down battlefront when I can play the full version? PSP just didn’t sell itself, the DS was smaller, easier to carry, and had more widespread appeal as a handheld. PSP was trying to be a portable console when the PlayStations biggest user base was people who didn’t think video games were that special and weren’t gonna play them in public.

>>9653715
because poorfags.
just look at the neo geo

>>9653715
>cost
i had the GG at launch
it was fucking badass
however, it ate batteries at an unsustainable rate
children do not have money
children do not have 6-AA batteries
children will not receive more games\batteries for a rapist of a system

>>9653807
>6 AA batreries in like 3 hours
its 5 hours retard
>no games
gamegear has a big library and you can play mastersystem games on it so it makes it even bigger

>>9654665
You really need it spelled out, don't you?
I'll try not to use big words.
LCDs had exclusively been used for purely utilitarian devices such as calculators.
Gunpei Yokoi saw a bored businessman tapping buttons on a calculator to pass the time on a train journey and thought "hmmmm, why hasn't anybody made a purpose built handheld entertainment device with a LCD screen?"
And that's how we got the Game & Watch.
Either your bar for what constitutes innovation is stupidly high, or you just don't know innovation when you see it.

>>9654797
>rapist of a system
ITS GAMEGEAR TIEM!!
GO0BY PLS NOOo00OO!!!

>>9653715
Gameboy has good games and battery life

>>9653846
>>9653856
>>9653860
We had a gg at my grandparents house that was shared amongst all the cousins. We only played it plugged in since my grandpa refused to feed that monster from his precious battery stash.

>>9654802
It burnt them out in about 3.5 hours when I was playing Dragon Crystal a few years ago and 5 hours is still a joke for 6 AAs. No parent wanted to deal with that shit and no kid wanted to burn their whole allowance on batters to power the thing for a couple of afternoons.

The library is extremely limp and the Master System library isn’t doing much to make up for it, assuming you could even find worthwhile Master System games anywhere. This may have been different in other regions, but at least in the US, no one even knew what a Master System was. I had never heard of the console until the 2000s.

The GG might have done better if it had a better showing with its flagship titles, but the Sonic games for it are mostly sub par and really only had novelty appeal.

It was also larger and significantly clunkier than the gameboy, so taking it to school or whatever was a hassle.

I had both and the GG ended up collecting dust pretty quickly. It got licked back up when I got some hand me down games from my cousin and then put back when I remembered how fast the batteries burnt up

>>9654591
I have three kids. I'm not criticizing anyones "ideas about toys". I'm criticizing children for being stupid and lying.

>I have three kids
Does the FBI know that?

>>9655403
They should be receiving my demands in a few days or so

>>9653715
>How does a portable that gives you an experience almost similar to MD

>>9653715
Because the Gameboy had Tetris and Pokemon. What did the Game Gear have in comparison?

>>9653715
>copies
Do you know why flash media and optical media are called copies, dipshit?

>>9653715
Because the damned thing ate 6 freaking double a's in two hours play, add to this it was twice as expensive and weighed damned near 5 pounds and wouldn't fit in your pocket. This is all coming from a gen xer who had one and even though i loved the damned thing it was a pita to carry anywhere.

>>9654221

>>9657440
Why did he draw the mother like that

>>9653715
>How does a portable that gives you an experience almost similar to MD

Game Gear was a glorified handheld Master System.

>>9657435
>damned
>damned
>damned
it's time to wash your fedora bro

>>9653715
>needs 6 batteries
>no pokemon equivalent
>it was a big bulky handheld
Not too hard to see why it didn't do as well as the GB at all. Also your thread sucks. In no way were these handhelds comparable to consoles at all fag. Especially not the GB.

The only times I've seen people play on Game Gear, it was plugged in to a power outlet.

A handled like that, you don't bring to school, other kids don't get excited about it, they don't ask for one for christmas.
Meanwhile every kid carried a GB/P/C around in their pockets.

>>9653715
SEGA System