/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9640365
Don't relax around saturn

>>9640365
How did you not know that?

Anyway I could never find a Saturn memory card for the life of me. But, I did get a gameshark, and you can back up saves on it.

>>9640365
Next time back-up your important saves to a cartridge. It's pretty gay that most games couldn't save directly to the cartridge like a memory card.

>>9640365
>doesn't use a save cartridge
you are the one to blame for being retarded

Op didn't change his Saturn battery for 30 years apparently.

>>9640365
>i just found out that the sega saturn runs off batteries
It clearly runs of AC using the cable in your pic

>>9640390
More like 6 months

>>9640365
>saturn game saves
i just realized i have never thought about how it did this in my entire life

>>9640374
This is false, why do people keep saying that

>>9640490
I looked it up and only a few games were unable to save directly to a memory card. Action Replay / Gameshark cannot do this. It can only back-up memory.

>>9640526
All I know is a lot of games I’ve played give the option to save to both of you have one inserted
A lot even have an in game sprite or model of the memory card

where are saturn save games even located? if a disc is in the system it starts the game, and with no disc in the system, it goes to a cd player screen

>>9640634
The “cd player” is the bios, press the bottom right sphere with the line patterns

>>9640365
This faggot actually fell for the Saturn meme.
Look at him and laugh.

>>9640365
Pseudo Saturn all-in-one cart. You're welcome.

>>9640365
I had the same issue in 1998 with Tomb Raider. God angry and sold the game off. Didn't know about no batteries and shit, thought the damn thing was broken.

>>9640390
More like 30 seconds

>>9640749
>God angry
GOD SMASH
>>9640739
I'm pretty sure if you flash the cart for pseudo saturn, it can no longer hold game saves.

>>9640750
More like SHUT THE FUCK UP BIASED NINTENDOFAG SEGA DIDNT NEED TO MARKET TO YOU SHITSMEARED TROGLODYTES, SHMUPS AND EVANGELION VISUAL NOVELS ARE SUPERIOR TO OBESE WOP SHIT PLUMBERS THAT CRUSH TURTLES

>>9640749
I got all the way to ST. FRANCIS FOLLY, which was quite a hustle. Turned it back on and POOF. No Saves.Started from the beginning did it two more times, and then I rage quit.

>>9640757
Also no warning or anything, none whatsoever, you'd save and the saves would last from like couple hours and then POOF again. That was probably a year after I purchased it.

>>9640365
These kinda batteries lasted for decades in cartridges, why do they drain so fast in the Saturn?

>>9640775
Does the Internal clock drain it that much?

>>9640756
Chris-chan how'd you get a phone in prison

>>9640409
>t. never owned a saturn
thank you for letting me know

>>9640775
Don't saturn batteries last for a solid year or so? I'd say that is pretty good.

>>9640775
I believe they last for about 2 to 3 years in a Saturn. Probably has something to do with the memory chips being used.

>>9640775
SRAM practically uses no power to function

RTC modules can use considerably more power

>>9641389
Oh so it really is the clock?

Just got a Saturn actually - I ordered a Pseudo Saturn Kai so I can play pirated games but I'd also like to save the damn games without being at the mercy of a watch battery. What's the move here?

>>9640413
I had the same reaction just now. I never even really saw a Saturn until having seen it talked about so much on this board. I don't know if I just assumed Sega went from the Genesis to the Dreamcast or what but I don't remember acknowledging the Saturn's existence in any way.

>>9641415
Getting another cart. Sounds silly but that's what most people do.

>>9641415
The pseudo saturn cart I bought supports acting as a memory card, 1m ram, and 4m ram expansions with a toggle switch.

>>9640365
Should have gotten the cart

>>9640775
I post this every thread about the internal saturn battery.

Never handle the battery with bare hands. Oils on fingers drain those suckers. Easily get 5 years out of these things.

>>9641415
>What's the move here?
well ur fucked

>>9641595
>Oils on fingers drain those suckers
(You)

>>9641595
What in the autism is this post? Like how many people who bought the almost 10 million Saturn's sold do you think would do this?

>>9641443
Don't worry that is one reason why Sega stopped making consoles. Because they bombarded the market with bad systems.

>>9641508
So if I'm playing a pirated game with the Pseudo Saturn in, I can hot swap the cartridge to a memory cart and save to it and I'd be good?
>>9641543
Mine CLAIMS to do that but nobody that speaks clear English sells the things so I didnt know if I could trust it.
>>9641596
Nuh uh!

The fuck.. I just asked a question on an shitalian auction site for THIS Saturn. It can mean only two things.. You are Matt or the guy on Subito is a scammer

>>9641749
>I can hot swap
You can not and any movement to the cartridge slot would likely freeze your game
It needs to be on the correct setting before you even start the system

Bru

>>9641749
>Mine CLAIMS to do that but nobody that speaks clear English sells the things so I didnt know if I could trust it
You need to check the back of the cart and see which things are marked with a red dot. Mine is the 4-in-1 so it works as PSK, 1MB RAM (the proper 1MB RAM, not the glitchy backwards compatible 4MB RAM), 4MB RAM, and backup cart.

>>9641764
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr he just posted it from google image results

>>9642034
Forgot to add that for these carts the backup memory is constant for all modes, you can access it as normal

>>9642042
I don't think that's true, pretty sure if you have the 4mb or 1mb ram setting on it just saves to the system

>>9642048
Nah it can be accessed on any mode. If a game doesn't actually use the RAM expansion it'll see it as a backup cart, but if the game detects the RAM expansion it locks in and won't allow saving directly to backup because the Saturn never allowed for hot swapping the cartridges.

>>9641801
Good to know, thanks anon
>>9642034
Just checked and its the exact layout as your pic, wew
So if I save a game is it going to default to saving to the Pseudo Saturn automatically or do I have to tell it to?

>>9642034
And thank you by the way.

>>9642084
You can change the setting in the regular Saturn menu so it'll default to the cart. Just remember not to fuck with the cartridge while the Saturn's on or you can brick both of them.

>>9642058
Nope, I just checked and that isn't true at all
the Pseudo menu is accessed but not the save function

>>9640365
Bros, I sneezed on my Saturn today and now the battery is dead

>bought one of those official 4MB ram carts or whatever off of ebay
>didn't realize that it doesn't also backup saves
Great.

>>9642424
>i'm a retarded impulse buyer
Great.

>>9640490
>This is false, why do people keep saying that

The Sega Saturn had 1046 games:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sega_Saturn_games

And of them, 82 supported saving directly to the memory card:
https://segaretro.org/Saturn_Backup_Memory#Compatibility

Many popular exclusives like NiGHTS, Astal, Burning Rangers, Bulk Slash, Clockwork Knight, Scud, and all of the Panzer Dragoon games did not support the feature.

>>9640526
>Action Replay / Gameshark cannot do this. It can only back-up memory.

Also this. The older 2/3/4-in-1 cards from the 90s had additional storage, but you could only move/copy saves to them from their own Action Replay-like menu, when a game was booted they just functioned like a 4MB RAM expansion, not as a memory card. The more recent ones you get today can function as a real memory card... for those 82 games.

>>9640775
>These kinda batteries lasted for decades in cartridges, why do they drain so fast in the Saturn?
Probably the mess of hardware the system is and the fact that the battery powers both the SRAM and the RTC.

>>9641361
>Don't saturn batteries last for a solid year or so? I'd say that is pretty good.
How is that good? Most save or clock batteries last around 20 years, at worst 10.

>>9642034
Is there any version of these carts that has every feature? I know that you would not need the "*MB memory card" if you have the "action replay +8Mb" feature obviously, but no version seems to have the Action Replay, 1+4MB RAM, Region Free, and Psuedo Kai at once.

>>9642623
Pretty rich citing wikipedia when responding to someone saying "this is false". Just saying.

Saturn ODE chads, where we at

Out here dabbing on faggots who spend hundreds of dollars to play games we play for FREE

>>9642649
Collecting is part of the fun; it's not all about playing.

>>9642640
I cited Wikipedia only for the number of games released on the Saturn. Even if you think there is an error, do you really think the error would be anywhere even close to the region of making my statement false?

There are 82 games that supported the memory card according to segaretro. The anon at >>9640374 said that MOST games did not support it, the anon at >>9640490 claims this is false.

Even if the number at Wikipedia is off by 800, which is utterly impossible for it to be off by that much as that would mean over 75% of the list of games that is on that very page is completely made up, that would still make what I said true in that only a small amount of Saturn games supported saving directly to the memory card, certainly not "most" of them. The only way the claim of "most of them" would be true is if there was 163 or less games ever released for the Sega Saturn, or if you think SegaRetro of all places got the list wrong by hundreds.

>>9642682
"Collecting" is the cancer that is killing retro gaming.

>>9642720
There is no retro gaming without collecting.

>>9642723
That is the dumbest thing anyone has ever said on /vr/.

I can play every game on the Saturn and haven't "collected" any of them.

>>9642726
That's just gaming.
Retro gaming comes with collecting.

>>9642623
I don’t see mega man 8 on that list
I think it’s far from accurate

>>9642729
Gaming on retro consoles isn't "retro gaming"?

You're a retard. A consoomer retard. Swallow three rare earth magnets ten minutes apart.

>>9642746
>Gaming on retro consoles isn't "retro gaming"?
No, because retro gaming refers to the hobby which includes collecting as part of the definition.

Simply playing a game of Pong in your web browser is not retro gaming, no.

now that you mention it, I can't find a list of consoles with internal batteries
I think I replaced a gamecube one once

>>9642775
majority of systems that use a RTC
but I think only the Saturn tied save RAM to it

>>9642732
Do you have a more complete list anywhere then? I do want a complete list if SegaRetro's is missing entries.

Also, that being said, again for the claim of "most" games supporting it that would mean that the list would have to be off by several hundred.

>>9642849
>games supporting it that would mean that the list would have to be off by several hundred
if something like Mega Man 8 is on there, It's safe to say that the list just some basic guide of some American or PAL games maybe?
seeing as it says story of thor 2 instead of legend of Oasis
I don't know of any other lists, I just know it's half assed

>>9642859
Missing entries is fair enough, I am just saying it's unlikely for either Wikipedia or SegaRetro to be off by a magnitude by several hundreds.

Wikipedia claims there was over 1000 Saturn games released and has a list of all of them. SegaRetro claims that 82 games supported the memory card but this list is missing some of them.

For the claim that "most" games supported the memory card to be true, that would have to mean that one or both of those lists is off by several hundred. I can understand either list being off by a dozen, maybe at most three dozen, but hundreds is extremely unlikely.

>>9642881
>but hundreds is extremely unlikely
and like I said, if a game as big as Megaman isn't there then you can say the list isn't accurate at all

>>9642692
>All that cope
All I said was
>Pretty rich citing wikipedia when responding to someone saying "this is false". Just saying.
That you get all defensive and sperg out about that says a lot about who you are.

>>9642884
You are being unreasonable. You bring up a game it missed and argue that this is proof that the list is missing literally hundreds of entries.

If you claim that the list is so broken that it can be off by several hundred and that most Saturn games did support saving to the ramcart, then the burden of proof is on you. It's a pretty wild claim to argue that such a large amount of games are missing from the list but not be able to provide any proof other than a few games it missed when we are talking about over a thousand games here.

>>9642887
>cope
>sperg

If you have no counter-argument then it's better to just shut your faggot mouth than to open it and remove all doubt that you're a retard.

>>9642889
It has no Japanese games on that list at all

>>9642902
And I just had to check this but that list is completely bogus

>>9642902
It does, it even shows images of backup packs that were included with some Japanese-only games. But you are right in that the list seems to be mostly talking about US games and lacking many Japanese ones.

>>9642932
It also lists mystaria where it’s called blazing heroes in America
This list is PAL only and incomplete, it doesn’t have shining wisdom either and only one shining force scenario

>>9642948
So where does one get a complete list them to either confirm or deny how many games supported it? I personally still find it suspect that it can be missing hundreds of games.

>>9642954
Here’s a complete list of PAL releases
https://www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-complete-european-game,,1,,0,,1.html
Which your list is already missing some games from as we know

>>9642967
Oh and some games are listed multiple times for language differences

>>9642967
I meant a list of games that supported the Saturn Backup Memory.

>>9642969
I know what you meant, I’m comparing a list of releases that coincides with your list

>>9642971
Hmm, even that site seems to be missing entries. E.G. they don't have a listing for the UK version of Burning Rangers.... except for the... Brazilian version?

>>9642975
Yes it does, it’s right there
There’s no “UK” version, it’s a euro one

>>9642890
There's nothing to argue about and I don't argue with retarded spergs. Sorry champ. You'll need to find someone else to bait into engaging with your angsty teen tantrum.

>>9642984
So if we are going by just the Euro releases listed on that site, there are 304 games listed. The 82 games (83 if you count "Tokimeki Memorial: Forever With You" that is only listed in the photo gallery), a little over 1/4th of the Euro games alone, and the list doesn't just have Euro releases (Such as on top of Tokimeki Memorial I mentioned, it also lists Tamagotchi Park and Densetsu no Ogre Battle, Japanese-exclusive releases. As well as Albert Odyssey, a game that didn't release in Euro regions).

Again, that would mean for Euro releases alone that list would have to be off by over a hundred for most games to support the memory card, and the list does not appear to be only based on Euro releases.

We need a list of games that supported the memory card, if any exists.

So wait, if I tell the Saturn to save to the Pseudo cart to in the Saturn BIOS, but then save a game that doesn't support it, where is that save going? And if 8t goes to the system, is there a way to back that save up elsewhere so it isn't held at gunpoint by a necco wafer battery?

>>9643024
so after searching, there are 240 PAL games

>>9643024
>that list would have to be off by over a hundred
I'm glad you can see how bogus the list is then

>>9640390
>change battery
>saves go bye-bye

>>9642775
Gamecube, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS2. Maybe others, but those are the ones that people still care about.

>>9643165
You can change the battery while the console is on so that’s not an issue, however once it goes flat that doesn’t matter

>>9643198
I thought about doing that but i was afraid of fucking up something

>>9640751
Get a pre-made one, some of them have a switch on top for 1 and 4mb ram, and I think 8mb of storage for savedata. I've had mine for over 4 years and it still works fine.

>>9643309
you won't, it's literally just swapping a battery after opening the back cover

>>9643309
It's just 3 volts of backup power, and you just have to open that little door on the back. If it runs out of power before you can swap it, you're kinda fucked, but the act of swapping it is easy.

>>9642623
You'd have to determine this by a list of games that allowed saving at all, not just all games. A lot of Saturn games didn't have a save feature period.

>retards bothering with real hardware when Saturn emulation is perfect via mednafen
lol
lmao

>>9643569
Why does real hardware trigger you?

>>9642623
>Is there any version of these carts that has every feature?
You can't have both the stock Action Replay suite and Pseudo Saturn Kai at the same time because PSK overwrites Action Replay's data to install itself. Should be noted that PSK already has every single cheat from Action Replay already in it that you can activate using the startup menu, so you don't actually need both.

>>9642649
I've been queued up in the pre-orders for a fenrir since january and they finally shipped out to me, still waiting for it to arrive right now. I thought about buying from fenrir directly but my bank would have surcharged me on the currency exchange.

>>9643569
When I moved out of Brazil I told myself I'd buy all the shit I missed out on because of my homeland. Never going back to emulation when flashcarts and ODEs exist.

>>9643849
>Should be noted that PSK already has every single cheat from Action Replay already in it that you can activate using the startup menu

Does it have the option to add your own codes as well, or is it only the built in ones?

>>9643881
Yeah it lets you add them manually too, might need to flash to the newest version if your cart is from an old firmware

>>9643894
Aren't these newer carts? I know they are still a few years old, but weren't these made within the last 8 or so years? I would have thought firmware updates would have dried up and that the last update was years ago.

>>9643569
>input lag
>pixaleted af
emufags are retarded

>>9643569
>perfect
Yeah, definitely not quite there yet.

>>9642682
It used to be fun, but for consoles like the Saturn and Dreamcast, it's been ruined unless you're a rich fag. Opportunists like to artificially inflate games. The best example is that fraudulent Mario 64 auction that made mainstream news.

At this point, it's better just to emulate unless you've already gotten most of the games you want.

>>9644043
Also the N64 and Gamecube have gotten just as ridiculous in many cases.

>>9640634
The Saturn has SRAM that holds the saves. You can find them in the memory manager. The SRAM is backed by a CR2032 battery
In the modern era, use an ODE and the save copier ISO to back up your saves to carts. If you're balling and like to waste money, get an FRAM mod.

>>9642749
Wrong.

Gaming is playing videogames, regardless of their format. Retrogaming is playing retro games. Neither gaming nor retro gaming has anything to do with "collecting".

Retro gamers are people who actually play retro games. Retro game collectors are people who don't actually play games, they instead spend money on them and then use them as decoration and then post pictures of their "hauls" and "shelves" to other retards for a quick dopamine hit before going back to lurking ebay for yet another obscure game they'll spend $300 on but never play.

>>9640634
>>9640640
>>9645386
Imagine buying a console and not reading anything about it.

Imagine buying a console and not even exploring the options in the BIOS.

>>9645659
Yep, I don’t get it
you have to config the clock every time the battery goes flat too

>no save cartridge
kek what a retard

>>9645637
Imagine sperging out over the meaning of words and then using the bandwagoner meaning of "retro"
There are so many aspects of "retro" gaming that you'll never get to experience unless you collect or know someone who does. Seethe harder poorfag.
nta you're coping to btw

>>9645724
Yes you are.

There are zero aspects of retro GAMING that you experience by collecting, because you cannot experience retro GAMING without actually playing retro games.

"Collecting" is a cancer, it's a bunch of retards jerking themselves off because they paid $300 for a copy of some obscure 2D platformer that I played through and beat months ago so they can put it on the shelf next to the other games they paid hundreds of dollars for.

Collecting games is not gaming. Playing games is gaming. Anyone who is not an actual for reals retarded person knows this. You, apparently, have failed this test.

>>9645723
I've had official Sega memory carts die on me too.

The Saturn is just a piece of shit in so many ways, no wonder it failed so fucking hard.

>>9645835
>I've had official Sega memory carts die on me too
doubt that very much

>>9645786
Cope harder poorfag

>>9645862
Dumbass idiot probably just needs to clean the slot. The pin density is quite high so it's very sensitive to any kind of contamination. Use deoxit.

>>9645659
Idiot, I've owned the same Saturn since 1997.

>>9644043
I buy repros

>>9645894
> Owned a console since 1997
> Still doesn't know how it works

You're the idiot, bud

>>9645874
>If I post a picture of a crying baby, no one will know I just got btfo on 4chan!
>I am very smart

>>9645874
>dude just buy the 300 dollar games youre not a real heckin retro gamer if you dont!
Kill yourself. Retro gaming and collecting are two different hobbies.

>>9646020
>>9646053

>>9645637
I'm not collector, I'm just a game hoarder. I just buy whatever I find cheap and seldom get rid of anything. I bought most of my stuff from pawn shops and online way before prices skyrocketed and just don't feel like getting rid of it. People that pay hundreds of dollars for a game are idiots . Right now I'm way more into buying PS3 and 360 stuff cause I find it for under 5 bucks a game. I try to play the stuff I buy but I know I have a lot more than I'll ever have time to play. But at I least didn't pay a fortune for my shelf decorations

>>9646604
Got most of my stuff at flea markets. Honestly, the only thing better than owning thousands of games you paid a buck for and are now worth many times that, is watching bandwagoners seethe about it.

>>9640365
That's why I bought a memory cartridge, so that I can back up my saves easily. They're not expensive either. Get one as soon as you can.

>>9640775
The Saturn Cartridges does not have batteries.

>>9646698
The only thing better than seeing a guy desperately trying to justify his sunk cost is spending $150 or $250 on an ODE and never paying for games at all.

If you have a Saturn, and you don't have an ODE (or at least a PSK cart), you are absolutely, positively, without a doubt an alpha class retard.

>>9647234
>bandwagoners seethe about it.
The only one trying to justify anything here is you. I was playing burnt discs on my Saturns long before retail ODEs were available. You don't think I open my factory sealed Saturn games that are worth >$500 just because I only paid ¥100 for them, do you?
>i r absolutely, positively, without a doubt an alpha class seether.
Indeed. And it gives me pleasure.

>>9647448
You do not have any "factory sealed Saturn games that are worth >$500" you lying retard.

Go try and impress some other website with this shit, no one here is falling for it.

>>9647234
>If you have a Saturn, and you don't have an ODE (or at least a PSK cart), you are absolutely, positively, without a doubt an alpha class retard
You do realize people older than you exist, right? Sega Saturn games were dirt cheap in the 2000s, for the most part.

>>9647467
I know. I sold all of mine over the past couple of years and used the money to buy a used pickup.

Guys who have a pile of games they bought 20 years ago are not the current crop of retarded collectors. Check out r/segasaturn sometime and laugh at how many people are excited that they spent an amount of money significantly higher than my mortgage payment on a copy of PDS (that they only purchased to display on a shelf). They're no better than funko fags.

Saturn thread?
I've bought a Saturn recently and the part that lets the system know the lid is closed doesn't work right. How fix?

>>9647564
Open it up and make sure the sensor isn't blocked/stuck with dust or dead bugs or whatever.

If it's well and truly fucked you could tape it down and just shut your system off whenever you want to switch discs.

Any tips for buying a Sega Saturn? For example, any specific hardware revision I need to look for?

>>9647658
Forgot to mention I already opened it knowing full well this was an issue when I bought it. Would it have any impact on an ODE if I taped it?

>>9646053
Your making a mistake when you make that distinction. You have to remember everything about markets especially retro games, is fake and gay. When you say that you're justifying the current market

>>9647685
The Saturn is a great console to get if you like arcade perfect (or close to) 90s fighting games, shoot 'em ups, arcade style racing games, weird but excellent JRPGs, interesting versions of games better known on the PS1, and quirky arcade deep cuts. If that sounds good than you'll have a good time, but don't get one expecting it to be a PS1 but kinda different.

The internal differences between hardware revisions is negligible. Japanese Saturns are generally in better shape than US ones, and the gray (model 1) or white (model 2) colors look really nice. They're also significantly cheaper.

Get a Japanese Saturn imported, find a cartridge with PseudoSaturn Kai firmware on it, and you'll be able to play pirated copies of games you have burned to CD. Accessories to consider are a save cartridge (if your PSK cart doesn't have direct saving), a 3D controller (a Saturn controller with an analog stick), and an arcade stick if you're into fighting games or shooters. The PSK cart you get should have 1MB and 4MB RAM support, so you don't have to get a dedicated RAM cart (RAM carts are extra memory that is required for some games, similar to an Expansion Pack for the N64 only not as faggy). Most of the games that utilized the RAM carts were Capcom 2D fighters, but there were some others (the port of Metal Slug uses the 1MB cart, for example).

Check the /vr/ wiki for recommended games, or post what genres you're into and we can recommend some.

gl;hf and don't forget to bully the bernieposter about the time he complained on /adv/ about his wife refusing to have sex with him but forgot to turn off his tripcode whenever you see him post.

>>9647460
Your projecting gives me pleasure

>>9647716
Thank you, I'm planning on buying a PC engine next but I'm definitely buying a Saturn after that. I will check the wiki for games and will try them on emulator later.

>>9647716
>/vr/ wiki
Link?

>>9647853
>/vr/ wik
https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/Saturn

>>9648157
That's the reddit wiki but thanks anyways, may as well give it another once over see if they updated it

>>9648157
The description of the first game on that page looks like it was written by a legitimate retard. Makes me question the rest of the recommendations

>>9648172
>That's the reddit wiki
>A turn-based RPG about some kid, Pike, who saw his parents get assraped by monsters when he was an infant and afterwards he was raised by furries
uh huh

>>9642623
>And of them, 82 supported saving directly to the memory card:

This has got to be bullshit, I have way more than 82 games' save files on my cart.

oh wait, it's a sega retro link. nevermind, it's confirmed to be bullshit.

>>9648339
>I have way more than 82 games' save files on my cart.
Uh-huh. Did you save to them directly?

>>9648441
>Uh-huh. Did you save to them directly?

I used an official backup cart, not some third party chink bullshit cart where you have to manually copy over save files.

Most games just ask right at the start where you want to save, some games offer individual save files where you can select a location but that's less common.

>>9640775
What's the button on the right of the coin battery for? Clearing the saves?

>>9648463
There is no button.

>>9648478
O RLY?

>>9648478
Okay, my three US Saturns don't have that button but my JPN does.

>>9648497
DO NOT press it it makes mustard gas

>>9648509
>three US Saturns
Why do you have so many Saturns?

>>9648497
Yes, really.

>>9648542
Why don't you?

At two different times I found two at a thrift store. They were around $10 so I thought why not.

I knew I would give them a good home.

>>9648557
>At two different times I found two at a thrift store.
Aye, I have the same story for why I own 9 Genesises.

>>9648509
Based fellow 4 Saturn anon.
I have 2 x PAL (Model 1 & 2) and 2 x JP (Grey Model 1 and White Model 2).

>>9648547
Well they must have removed them from either the international version or after a motherboard revision but the switch is clearly there. It's marked S1 for Switch 1.

>>9648568
SW1

>>9648560
My nigga.

I plan to own every Japanese variant excluding the NAVI one; doesn't even RGB without modding.

>>9648568
Is that a type 1 or 2?
Because even when they sell different versions to different markets they tend to use the same boards - they'll just leave components off.

>>9648571
Type 1 Grey JPN one.
I don't think I've ever found documentation about this button.
I want to say I pressed it once but it didn't clear out my saves. Could be possible I didn't fully press it...?
Might just remain a mystery.

>>9648463
>>9648497
>>9648568

Considering it's right next to the save battery, I would assume it resets the memory. Not sure why anyone would want that since there is an option in the BIOS to clear all memory anyway, just sounds like something one can easily accidently press that erases everything.

>>9648463
You push it 9001 times and it stops the system from sucking the battery dry in 5 minutes

>>9648463
Press it 4 times in a row and Yu Suzuki drags his balls across your face.

>>9647516
>my mortgage is less than PDS
flyover shitter confirmed

>>9646018
you're still not making any sense retard. if you have a dead battery and you save to the console's SRAM, you're gonna have a bad time. if you use an ODE and the save copier, you can backup to flash storage and none of this is a problem. some ODEs can even load the save from the flash storage. if you have a backup cart obviously none of this matters.
go fuck yourself ya smug dicklicker

>>9648786
>flyover shitter confirmed
In America the part of the roads the hobos live under are call overpasses.

>>9646604
>>9646698
Not a bandwagoner, just a poorfag.
Honestly, at the end of the day the inflated retro market and the attention it receives isn't even worth getting concerned over anymore. I'm glad some people actually got to enjoy picking up this stuff before it all became gay vanity pieces and market manipulation. I prefer people like you enjoying these things over some faggot zoomer who wants them because some YouTube shill told them it was a 'hidden gem'. I miss the simpler times when most people saw old games as obsolete junk and only weird nerds loved them, instead of now where many people just see dollar signs when they look at them.

>>9648570
>owns that many saturn consoles but does not own the most aesthetically beautiful one
ITS
OVER
>I plan to own every Japanese variant
Well that's better.. it really is a marvel how ugly some of the other saturn releases are compared to how sleek and refined the white one is.

>>9649003
I do not understand this in fighting over Saturn variants, it is literally the least difference in design from any other console released

>>9648881
>Not a bandwagoner, just a poorfag.
Did you never have $100 to buy yourself a few consoles and dozens of games or did you do that and then sell them because you became poor?
It sucks when any hobby become popular and becomes infested with bandwagoning scum who drive the prices up. But there are upsides to it as well. There's all kinds of new shit available that never would have been created without a market the size it is now. I felt sorry for the bandwagoners for a few months years ago. But they turned out to be such insufferable cunts I'm glad prices are high.

>>9649089
>fighting
You must be an american if you think innocent, cheeky banter is actual fighting. Yanks, I swear.

>>9649114
Actually, I was able to get a pretty decent collection for some consoles before it got ridiculous. I never got rid of them. Saturn was one of the consoles I never really got a lot of games for before the price skyrocketed.

>>9647716
The Shiturn is a great console if you like inferior / inaccurate arcade conversions, worse multiplats than the competition, untranslated non-games / jarpigshit, and 3D games that performed like fucking dogshit.

Fuck the Sega Shiturn, worst console they ever put out, bar none.

>>9648157
>>9648291
>still using the wikia instead of the miraheze
Do better.

>>9649728
Hopefully you got everything you really wanted. I think that was the main objective of most people up until the dawn of the age of bandwagoning. At least it was mine. But when prices started to creep up and children started to whine it became obvious that it was time to start hoarding. I remember faggots here losing their shit because people were asking $5 for SM64 on ebay. I bought up every copy I could find for a buck or less. Almost a full 28L box worth.

I'm not sure why everyone is sourly using the term 'bandwagoning' when discussing younger people learning about and wanting to play Saturn games for the first time. I guess they need to feel smug towards someone. Nobody is fuckin' bandwagoning the Saturn. An example of real bandwagoning in regard to older games are all the people who are suddenly huge Armoured Core fans.

>>9650069
>instead of the miraheze
oh, you're that anon

>>9650516
Wikia is an objectively garbage website, even ignoring the "/v/'s recommended" list.

>>9649003
I agree, the white is the only one worth owning and I have it.

>>9647119
He probably meant cartridge games or even the Sega CD memory cartridge (which also uses SRAM backed by a battery). The reason is because the battery in the Saturn powers the RTC. For the Dreamcast, Sega switched to rechargeable lithium, which helped but more annoying to replace.

>>9646018
Try saving to the system memory with a dead battery. Let me know how it works out for you.
ODE + Save Game Copier negates all of these problems. If you use MODE or Satiator with RINGS, it bypasses system memory entirely.
Let me know which part I got wrong instead of being a condescending goon.

>>9650261
They're referring to the type of people who get into it because they bought into the hype.

eg: zoomer watches fagtuber tell them how great the Saturn is and now they suddenly want in on it

I am a zoomer whose only ever cared about older games, but I recognize that the ship for this hobby has sailed a long time ago. I will not seethe, because this is just the way things turned out. Let the boomers reminisce about getting to experience something good before everything was ruined. Yeah, they probably have better experiences than we ever will, but our generation as a whole is fucking gay, so we all deserve to suffer for it.

>>9650756
I'm forever thankful that games like Doom, Blood, Splatterhouse, and Syndicate Wars, retain their own higher quality wikis or yet older fan sites independently from Jimbo's grift.

>>9650960
>we all deserve to suffer for it.
Nah. There are plenty of good zoomers. All mine turned out fine. And they had a lot of friends, who were also intelligent well adjusted children. Because frankly they can't stand shitstains either. They all got to enjoy this shit. I'm one of those cunts who's always posting boxes/shelves of my spares. Many years ago, when my zoomers were underage like the average /vr/ poster, I'd put together a package including a console, factory sealed game, loose copy, and some other random shit for each as a birthday present for any of my kids friends who were into old games.

>>9651152
That's very wholesome

>>9642623
>Many popular exclusives like NiGHTS, Astal, Burning Rangers, Bulk Slash, Clockwork Knight, Scud, and all of the Panzer Dragoon games did not support the feature.

The only two games in that list that save and don't support it directly are Bulk Slash and Panzer Dragoon II. All the others that save support it. Clockwork Knight, Panzer Dragoon, Astal, etc. don't have any saving at all. So it's kind of silly to expect them to support it. NiGHTS, Burning Rangers, Panzer Dragoon Saga, etc. do support it, as do just about every single major game where saving is important. Heck some like Panzer Dragoon Saga and Madden 97 even support directly saving to the Floppy Disk Drive. For the few that only allow saving to Internal RAM you can just go into the Memory Manager and copy them over to the Cartridge or even the Floppy Drive if you are worried about the battery.

Honestly the most infuriating thing about the Saturn is the amount of misinformation that's spread around about it by people who have never even bothered to try it's games out in an emulator, let alone actually own one. And sites like Sega Retro don't help that situation at all as they're full of misinformation made by the same kind of people.

>>9649003
Beautiful.

>>9650941
As long as the Saturn stays plugged in it doesn't matter.

>>9640365
Are people acting like if you can't save directly to the memory cartridge, then you can't save onto it at all? Or that it's somehow a huge deal to backup saves onto one?

Just go into system menu, save data management, and copy your saves onto the cartridge. There, now they're backed up. You can do that for all your games.

What's the best space shooter on the Saturn for someone who has never really played a space shooter seriously before? That Radiant Silvergun game?

>>9656373
Stellar Assault SS

>>9656373
Radiant Silvergun is kino. Just dont pay 300 dollars for it. Also spaceship shooters are very difficult, so if you haven't played them a lot be prepared to get your ass whooped. It's the only way to git good.

>>9655601
>As long as the Saturn stays plugged in it doesn't matter.
I wish that was how it worked

>>9656373
I don't know if it's the best but it is quite a spectacle of a game

>>9650941
>Try saving to the system memory with a dead battery. Let me know how it works out for you.

I kept my dead battery in the saturn for years. And I played games that could only save on the battery just fine.

>play game, save normally
>reset, copy savefile to gameshark
>save file only disappears from the battery after a few minutes of turning the console off.
>next time I need to play copy the save from the gameshark to the battery

One time I even turned off the console for like 3-5 minutes and the save was still there.