/vr/ - Retro Games

Wii

>>9632901
They both win

>>9632901
I grew up with both. N64 has some real masterpieces, but I say GC is better. Better controller, larger and more varied library, and Game Boy Player.

>>9632901
SM64 and OoT vs. Metroid Prime and Melee
that's basically what it boils down to

>>9632919
lol no, you weren't there when people actually played these systems.

>>9632901
Both have amazing games

>>9632901
Gc as it had a stronger library and better controller.

>>9632919
After everyone beat Mario 64 and oot they never played them again. Goldeneye, smash, mk64 and the wrestling games were where it was at.

They have different highs. The GC is a better all around console. It was easier to port games from the PS2 at that point, so the library is more fleshed out in general. Nintendo also got ahold of some great exclusives with things like the RE Remake, and Metroid Prime. On the other hand some of the core Nintendo franchises like Zelda, Mario, and Starfox didn't quite compare to their N64 conterparts.

>>9632901
N64 has more 11/10 revolutionary games with
OoT, Mario 64, GE, Wave Race, Rocket, F-Zero, S&P, etc.
but GC has way more games that are simply very good. GC also made up for the one weakness N64 had (fighting games, JRPGS) with amazing games like
SC2, Melee, Primal Fury, the best version of Budokai 1, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Skies of Arcadia, FFCC, an even better Paper Mario, etc.

ALSO, Nintendo consoles are accompanied by handhelds and you can't see them in isolation. GC was accompanied by the GBA, which I think has more good games than the Game Boy

Both great, but I would give it to GC for variety

>>9632983
I'd honestly exclude Star Fox because, as a franchise, it's completely uninteresting to virtually everyone EXCEPT Starfox 64. That's actually the franchise. It's really just one game that anybody gave a shit about. And I don't care about contrarians on this board trying to tell me shit like "Uh, uh, uh, actually there's lots of other games and I've played a couple of them" or some shit.

>>9632995
None of those were revolutionary, I think a lot of people get too hung up in the marketing of the time.

>>9632995
If you're going to mention Paper Mario for GCN as the better game, then F-zero also goes to GCN.

>>9632905
This but unironically. Its only glaring mistake was fucking up its Zelda. Many many hidden gems

Both are great
The GCN library is way the fuck deeper than the N64
It was also an era where Nintendo was doing a bunch of weird and interesting things with their IPs, so you got stuff like Metroid Prime, Mario Strikers, Luigi's Mansion, WarioWare and then new IPs like Pikmin and Eternal Darkness
On top of that you got Animal Crossing and Fire Emblem representation in the west, and significantly better third party support over the N64.

So to me it's like, yeah if I picked the top 5 games of the N64 to go head to head with the top 5 games from the GCN, the N64 would probably come out on top. But the sheer weight of the GCN's library pretty handily puts it on top over the N64 overall.

It's funny though I've been a Gamecube supporter since it launched, I bought FE: Path of Radiance and Paper Mario TTYD on launch, I was one of the poor bastards who had to wait an extra month to play Twilight Princess because I wasn't super interested in the Wii. So take that all into account when I say: I think the recent deification of the Gamecube is a massive over correction. It was an awesome console at the time and I don't think it deserved to be as eclipsed by the PS2 as it was, but holy FUCK do people put it up on a pedestal these days.

Gamecube is just the Nintendo 64 again but with better graphics.

>>9633002
>oot and mario not revolutionary
it's that shitposter again who wasn't there back then

>>9632997
I like Snes Starfox, and I kind of like Zero, but it needed a less wonky control scheme.

>>9633007
The Wii actually is a better system than most people give it credit for. It didn't get a Starfox of an F-Zero at all though. Though it did get Sin and Punishment 2, which is pretty much better than Starfox, and what they should have been doing with Starfox after 64.

>>9632973
I played through SM64 and OoT many, many times as a kid. Hell, my brother and I used to see how far we could get in one day.

>>9633014
I got SM64 Christmas 96 and OoT in fall of 98 with my allowance, so yes I was there. I'm not saying they're bad games, I'm saying from a more objective perspective they aren't revolutionary. Virtually no games copied the SM64 camera frankly a good thing, everyone was copying the Quake and Tomb Raider cameras instead and things evolved from there. Z-targeting in OoT was a nice evolution for melee, but that's all it was. Z-targeting without movement was already in Megaman Legends, and Z-targeting with movement was already in Tomb Raider, so all OoT did was adapt it for melee with relative direction inputs. Again, a nice evolution, but obviously not revolutionary.

>>9632901
Gamecube, it's a fairly easy choice for me even though N64 was a part of my childhood.
If I compare the games I have good memories of or played a lot on both systems:
>N64: Mario, Zelda, PD, Smash, Tooie, JFG, Shadow Man, Stadium, Hybrid Heaven, Harvest Moon, Battletanx, Gauntlet Legends, +misc.
>Gamecube: Melee, Prime, Viewtiful Joe, GX, Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, TTYD, PoR, RE4, SC2, MMX Collection (technically 3 SNES games and 3 PSX games but w/e) +misc.
I dunno it seems close but in my mind it goes to Cube pretty easily.

>>9633010
I will say GC feels like the era when Nintendo were at their stylistic peak. Everything was so bold and full of personality, in a way. And then you get to the Wii and everything beyond that, which is fine, good even, but there is this all pervading vibe of sterility to it.

They're never going to come out with another Wind Waker or Mario Sunshine ever, and they're probably never even going to make another F-Zero, because that was bold, crazy Nintendo, not safe Nintendo that makes a shit load of money selling exercise equipment, and iterations of classic franchises that are 60% the same as you remember.

>>9632901
N64 was my favorite console since 1996. However I’ve been playing the Gamecube a lot since last year and noticed that a lot of the N64 games I loved have Gamecube sequels and ports, some better some worse. Let’s look at the list of the best N64 games:

>Ocarina of Time
- Ported, with a bonus master quest version
>Majora’s Mask
- Ported
>Mario Kart 64
- Sequel (Double Dash) is better
> Super Smash Bros
- Sequel (Melee) is better
>Goldeneye & Perfect Dark
- Timesplitters 2 is almost as good, plus you get Timesplitters 3 and you also get 5 James Bond games
>Rogue Squadron
- sequel is better
>Super Mario 64
- sequel is not as good, good enough though
>San Francisco Rush
- ported

Anyways, you pretty much get an at least decent followup, if not better version, of every great N64 game.

On top of this you have, with a Gameboy Player, access to 3 Gameboy generations, and through that ports of the best NES and SNES games (and that’s not even counting the compilations)

And on too of all that, you get RE4 and Metroid Prime 1&2

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the Gamecube really is the better console. The amount of Zelda, Resident Evil, Sonic, Mega Man, and Mario games you can play on that thing is just mind blowing

>>9632983

This /endthread, next.

>>9632901
>both shit

>>9632901
the gamecube was such a letdown after how great the n64 was

>>9633058
The GC is pretty great as a retro machine, if for some reason you need to use it that way. You can play all of the classic Sonics. All of the classic Megamans and Megaman X games, Zelda 1, 2, OOT and Majora's Mask. RE2, 3 and CV, Metroid 1, and everything that was included in Animal Crossing.

>>9633002
>None of those were revolutionary
Even 6th generation games like Kingdom Hearts have worse camera AI than OoT and several devs call it the action RPG template, Wave Race had real waves that affected gameplay in fun dynamic ways, Mario 64 has become a template for 3D platformers after featuring the most refined and adaptive controls in a fully 3D world, F-Zero was not only the fastest actually good classic racing game at its time but the first with 30 cars on screen at 60 frames even in multiplayer, S&P is the first shmup of its kind with context sensitive melee/counter attacks, GE was one of the FPS that helped trailblaze split screen and breaking away from the Doom clones, Rocket was the first proper game with real physics on console and you could make a case for more 64 games like Smash and its % system in a fighting game but those come to mind instantly. You can nitpick and contradict it all but the Cube obviously doesn't really have a lot of trailblazers. The 64 even did online before

>>9633035
Contrarian opinions DESU.

>>9633005
>then F-zero also goes to GCN.
>no beloved F Zero music
>weird flying with almost no air control
>controls floatier in general
>snaking
>sim shit
Only if you are a graphicsfag

>>9633035
What a stupid post. Nobody defends the Mario 64 camera, if that's the best retard take you have to say then everybody can see that you don't know shit about why Mario 64 was unmatched when it came out.

>>9633034
Why the hell would you play single player when there was more than one of you? Did you only own two games?

>>9632983
>best gc game is a worse port of psx resident evil

>>9633126
Relax, you're acting like I'm insulting your mother. And regardless of (almost) everyone disliking the camera, that's the primary aspect of SM64 that people point to as being revolutionary. Without that it's just a high-production value (for the time) collectothon platformer in 3D, there's nothing revolutionary about that.

>>9633137
No, I'm pointing out that your post is stupid.

And no, nobody called the camera revolutionary. You literally weren't there if you thought that Mario 64 wasn't leaps above other 3D platformers at the time. You don't even know the actual thing people praised it for singularly at the time, the analog movement controls. Even excluding that, you don't know shit. People cared about the loading times, the physics, how things control (including contextual controls like the side somersault). You have no idea what 3D platformers existed in 1996 and you're just blabbering.

>>9633151
Alright nevermind, you're obviously too emotional to discuss this objectively.

>>9633153
Hahaha, someone is mad that they got blown out.

there is no point in getting a Gamecube or 64 if you have a Wii right? My sister has her old Wii and she doesn't realize you can play older games on it. It's been sitting in a closet untouched for years and I want to get some use out of it

>>9633195
Don't bother with Wiiware N64 games. Yes GCN games run great.

Gamecube for sure, admittedly I had one at the time and not an N64 (I was a SEGA kid) so I may be biased.

GC has more good games than N64, including multiplatform releases that measured up to the competition, which Nintendo hasn't had since really.

>>9632901
The gamecube has SSX
I'm sure lots of N64 owners have had lots of fun with them but let's not waste each other's time

>>9633195
Just emulate
Dolphin is outstanding and a lot of games upscale beautifully

>>9632901
Nintendo hasn't had a good home console since SNES

>>9632901
I was just thinking about this. You could go down a list:

Smash64 vs Melee
Mario64 vs Sunshine
PaperMario Vs TTYD
FZeroX Vs GX
MarioParty1/2/3 Vs 4/5/6/7
StarFox64 Vs Adventures/Assault
OoT/MM Vs WW/TP (and ports of OoT/MM)
Re2 Vs. Re0/1/2/3/4
Pro Skater 1/2/3 Vs. 1/2/3/4
MarioKart64 Vs Double Dash

Personally the only ones I think are better for N64 are StarFox and Mario Kart (Yes I beat OoT and MM on GC)

>>9633243
MK64 seems fucking horrible to me, am I missing something? I'm not saying DD or any MK for that matter is particularly good, but 64 just seems awful.

>>9633242
I am trans btw.

>>9633243
>Yes I beat OoT and MM on GC)
>censored glitchy graphics OoT and MM with slowdowns and bugs
>years after the initial release
Okay bud

>>9633247
>MK64 seems fucking horrible to me, am I missing something?
Friends in the 90s, assuming you were even alive

>>9632912
/thread
Shame the Cube didn't sell better for some weird reason and Nintendo became innovation obsessed

I think it comes down to third party. First party is a wash in my opinion. N64 had the better matio, zelda, waverace, starfox. While gamecube had the better smash, fzero, mario kart, metroid.

What differentiates them is whether you prefer rare and the random gems from konami and treasure or the third party from gamecube from sega and capcom.

I love n64 rare era so I prefer the 64.

>>9632947
>>9632919
It was more Mario Kart 64 vs Double Dash and Smash vs Melee.
AND... Mario Party 2 and 3 vs The Gamecube Mario Parties
But I'll tell you both, I never visited a house that didn't have both connected to the same TV if they had both. It was especially handy that they both use the same aux plug.

>>9633243
MM can outright crash on GCN because of its emulation, it's not how you should play the game.

>>9633058
>San Francisco Rush ported
u wot. When?

Does the N64 play Crazy Taxi?
No?
Then there's your answer.
GC wins.

>>9633275
apparently a questionable port in Midway arcade treasures 3

>>9633294
The only correct argument ITT

>>9633297
Well shit, I guess I gotta track that down

>>9633261
So what you really liked was your friends, not the game. I had an N64 with MK64 growing up in the 90s and even then I thought it was a shit game, other multiplayer games were more fun to me.

>>9632901
Nintendo 64. Not even close. GC has the best hardware, but at that point Nintendo seemed to give up making AAA games in-house. After SSBM there was nothing ever again released that was that good. Nintendo 64 was full of innovative best of all-time bangers in their respective series, and created new ones.

GC had Metroid Prime 1 and 2, SSBM and that was pretty much it. Nintendo 64 mogged it becuase Nintendo was incapable of making sequels even a fraction of good as they were on the N64, even though they no longer had the hardware limitations of the N64.

>>9633261
You could have played some good games instead with your friends instead of that trash.

>>9633126
>Nobody defends the Mario 64 camera
I do. It's not 100% perfect, there's some spots where it's not quite helpful or easy to use, but for the majority of the game I think it works well.

>>9632919
Rogue Squadron vs. Rogue Leader
Mario Kart 64 vs. Double Dash

>>9632901
90s prosperity vs post-9/11 decline. N64 clearly wins

Well, for someone like me who likes RPGs, Gamecube buries N64. Some people complain about how few there are on Gamecube, but the selection is not half bad.

Tales of Symphonia
Phantasy Star Online Episodes I, II, and III
Baten Kaitos and Baten Kaitos Origins
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Paper Mario: Thousand Year Door
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
X-Men Legends I and II
Gladius
Lord of the Rings: Third Age
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Skies of Arcadia
Pokemon XD
Summoner
Lost Kingdoms I and II
(and a few others I can't remember)

versus

Ogre Battle 64
Paper Mario
Quest 64

never owned a n64 but whenever I played it at freinds' houses I was always shocked by how bad the framerate on the games was and I was too young to even know what framerate was

>>9633035
>they aren't revolutionary
You were a retard and still being retarded nowadays.

>>9633768
Grow up.

>>9633769
Why didn't you?

>>9633741
N64 was my first and only console that gen, and yeah I just remember thinking everything was "slow". I was convinced I just hated 3D games until the 6th gen rolled around.

>>9633275
Midway Arcade Treasures 3, also has Rush 2049

>>9633090
Yeah, but if you have a Gameboy Player, you also have:

- Mario 1 - Super Mario World (16 bit versions of 2 and 3 tho)
- Yoshi’s Island
- DKC 1-3
- Link to the Past and 3 more Zeldas
- Kirby’s Adventure Remake
- 4 Metroid games
- almost every 2D Final Fantasy
- “NES classic series” - Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, Dr. Mario etc
- Castlevania and 3 great Metroidvania sequels
- Mario Kart DS
- A crap load of Pokemon games

So literally the best of the NES and SNES libraries, plus all the great handhelds. It is the ULTIMATE retro console! It’s the only console I’m even using anymore

Without the sega games would the GameCube be as fondly remembered?

>>9632901
GBA

>>9633736
*ahem*

>>9633994
Lol that is barely even a game.

>>9634001
Have you beaten it? It's on my hit list for this year. See if it's as hard as when I was a kid.

>>9633994
Reviews aren't that great, and the user ratings seem to be from die hard fans only skewing the results.

>>9632901
Gamecube had games so it wins by default

This is too easy, one is retro the other is not.

>>9632901
GameCube.

>>9632901
Gamecube had the better multiplat support, but honestly N64's exclusives completely mog it. Konami, Hudson and Treasure were simply brilliant on N64, not to mention Nintendo themselves.

It's a case of Quantity (GC) vs. Quality (N64).

>>9632901
in the battle of nogaems the n64 can't be beat, its library of 6 games is a landmark in how few games a console can have. Cube's a close contender but can't close the gap.

>>9632901
I have to vote for GC.
The n64 was cool, but still plagued by being the first 3d console. So subpar 3d capabilities.

Same for ps1 and saturn. The entire 5th gen was just fast enough to do the bare minimum for acceptable 3d games and even then they were pushing it. Was fun while it lasted though.

I prefer N64 because it did it first. People prefer DKC2 and Galaxy 2, but I'll always be way more enamored with the first ones to wow me than the ones that came and refined the wowing. I'll never like empire anywhere near as much as a new hope. In the N64 days Nintendo was cool. Mario was cool. He was this new fresh character, he made karate moves and went HYAH, did flips and was an acrobatic dinosaur punching hero. In the gamecube days, it was embarrasing to pick up sunshine. Mario has to clean thiings...? And the gamecube just did N64 2.0 when it should've done what all good sequels do which is evolve beyond the surface level and embrace the new online frontier, all we wanted to do was hop into the online arena. Being a gamecube owner felt really bad during the long droughts. Eventually you just had to get a ps2 for a square enix game, or an xbox for xbox live and kotor

>>9633247
it has the most exploitable physics

>>9633257
I'm saying I was okay with it.

better question:
gameboy color vs gameboy advance

>>9634837
gba is mediocre but gbc unbelievable fucking trash so easy choice.

>>9632901
Both were dogshit compared to the PS1 and PS2.

>>9633010
my favorite games are on the N64 (Mario, Zelda, Starfox) but I agree with this post, people struggle to name 10 good games on the N64 but the GC has so many that you get 86 replies in this thread and nobody has yet to mention Wario World,
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, or Kirby Air Ride

>>9634837
What does the gbc even have that’s worth playing? As someone born a bit before the gba I wanted to check it out and there’s not much that caught my eye besides the Zeldas, Pokémon, MGS and Shantae. GBA I have no difficulty finding stuff that interests me.

>>9635941
There's a really fun Goemon scotformer, but yeah, the GBC library is very weak.

Also Wario Land 3 is overrated and the worst Wario game in the series (not counting outsourced shite like World).

>>9633014
Mario was but OoT was basically halfassed mario64 with halfassed rpg elements. The atmosphere was nowhere near as good as your average snes rpg. It wasn’t a bad game just forgettable.

>>9635941
as someone who got a GBC day one, it was just used for playing old GB games but with a usable screen.

>>9633126
>Nobody defends the Mario 64 camera
I've always liked it, way better than something static.

>>9633096
Based N64

>>9633126
You are replying to our resident shitposter

>>9636058
I'm not a shitposter, you guys are way to defensive. If anyone has made posts like that before it wasn't me because I don't think I've even mentioned the N64 once on /vr/ until this thread.

>>9632901
I prefer the SNES.

>>9635784
well no shit anon.

>>9632995
none of those games did anything revolutionary but okay

>>9638737
See >>9633096
Obviously we are talking about toys so revolutionary is a big word

>>9632901
GameCube. Just overall more polished with a way better controller

>>9639730
Better controller… the dpad doesn’t even function. I’d go so far as to say the cube controller is not only the worst first party controller of nintendos big systems but of all the major system releases. Totally atrocious.

Gamecube blew n64 out of the water. At the time it felt pretty even, maybe like n64 was a tad better. But n64 did not age well, aside from a small handful of games. The controllers are trash and the system did not stand the test of time. Gamecube was a better version of it.

>>9633769
You're actually dense if you can't see how SM64 and OOT paved the way for 3D games done right in a time when there was no frame of reference for 3d games

Both mid, no games

>>9639714
Half of that shit is opinions about things being better or worse (nothing to do with being revolutionary) and the other half is merely describing basic evolutionary gameplay features at best.

>>9639803
Only if you have borderline shittaste and a hatenipple for Nintendo games

>>9633994
This has some comfy environments. 20% more polishing and some actually good music and it would be a classic

>>9641209
It's the exact opposite, you have to have shit taste and nintendo's cock permanently lodged down your throat to not admit these two were stinkers.

It's been resolved for awhile. Nintendo could've been releasing wii games for fifteen years or so. Because the company has become so focused on innovation, it will be interesting to see if they'll be the first ones to capitalise on AI.

>>9641442
>nintendo 3ds
>home console
go fuck yourself and delete this image

>>9641448
can I delete yours instead

>>9641442
>adds 3ds so the wiiU doesn't seem like the dogshit disaster it was

>>9641442
Makes me sad the Gamecube sold so poorly. It was a great console. I guess the competition was just too steep in those years.

>>9641227
Both systems have a dozen games always showing up among people's best games ever, one in particular being the one cited as the best game ever more often than any other game in the world. You are literally just a deranged snowflake with Dunning Krueger at this point

>>9641476
The Wii is a gamecube and it's also Dreamcast 2.0

>>9632901
N64
>better 1st party
>more exclusives (including 3rd party)
>multiplats were often better

>>9641546
True :)

N64 Kid:
better mario kart
better bond
better shooters in general
better mario
better racers in general
better donkey games
better zelda games
better pokemon games
better mario sports games
better puzzle games
better first party sports games
better wrestling
more soul
better jap exclusives
better harvest moon
better licensed games
Rareware
better 4 player splitscreen (no topping conker)
more varied 4 player modes, more frequently found in random games
better mario parties
better platformers
better kirby
better starfox
did animal crossing first
better turok
better star wars games desu
better custom robo
better megaman game
better panel de pon

meanwhile gc kid:
donkey konga
no good kirby
worse mario tennis
mario golf that is more of the same
no excitebike, snowboarding more of the same
rehashing mario party galore, they all look hideous
sunshine rushed content
billy hatcher...
ty the tigersomethin...
uhh
starfox adventures...
some trash pokemon games
mario amongst the basketball americans
a very gay custom robo
some retarded 2d megaman
cel damage i guess
rayman arena
chibi robo?
pikmin... ehhh....
luigi's mansion...?
kiddy waker

gamecube was clearly half-way there with the wii appeal to the casuals

>>9632905
>Wii U, only after hax

ftfy

they both have 2 good games. mario 64/goldeneye and metroid prime/re4. slight edge to the gamecube even though mario 64 is the best game out of all those

>>9643491
feel bad for both these kids ngl.

>>9632901
Threadly reminder, Cubecucks:

Super Mario 64 > Sunshine
Paper Mario > TTYD
Mario Party 1~3 > 4~7
Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash
N64 Mario sports games > GCN Mario sports games
Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask > Wind Waker/Twilight Princess
Star Fox 64 > Assault
Donkey Kong 64 > Jungle Beat
Kirby Crystal Shards > Air Ride (no Kirby platformer, LOL)
Super Smash Bros > Melee
N64 Pokemon spin-offs > GCN Pokemon spin-offs
F-Zero X > GX
Wave Race 64 > Blue Storm
1080 Snowboarding > Avalanche
Turok 1~3 > Metroid Prime 1&2
GoldenEye/Perfect Dark > TimeSplitters 1~3

Now bow down before the almighty Chad64.

Nintendo deserved the Gamecube flop for leveraging their money and status so hard with the N64. They created all their worst enemies and burned a ton of money in the process and got bit in the ass in the next go-round.

>>9643526
>Super Mario 64 > Sunshine
Yeah
>Paper Mario > TTYD
No
>Mario Party 1~3 > 4~7
... yeah
>Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash
Fuck no
>N64 Mario sports games > GCN Mario sports games
Double fuck no
>Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask > Wind Waker/Twilight Princess
Yeah
>Star Fox 64 > Assault
Yeah
>Donkey Kong 64 > Jungle Beat
Yeah
>Kirby Crystal Shards > Air Ride (no Kirby platformer, LOL)
Not even a little bit
>Super Smash Bros > Melee
>
>N64 Pokemon spin-offs > GCN Pokemon spin-offs
>>
>Turok 1~3 > Metroid Prime 1&2
Turok on console is dogshit

>>9633264
>for some weird reason
That reason was called the PS2.

>>9643526
/thread

>>9632905
Kill yourself disgusting subhuman
You faggots ruined the whole industry

>>9635784
The ps2 has no real games

>>9644067
that is funny as fuck coming from a nogames64 or nogamecube fanboy.

>>9644074
Your console is full of movie games shit and rpg trash
Literally no real games on that piece of trash with dead lasers

>>9635784
Whats even the point of posting shit like this in current thread?

Please just hang yourself, the world is a better place without you.

>>9643526
all true except I give it to melee

>>9644067
ps2 has a lot of b games, no mario 64's

>>9633206
why not? I downloaded Sin and Punishment, Star Fox, Pokemon Snap and Zeldas

>>9644213
ps2 has plenty of d games like mario 64

>>9639749
If the dpad is not functional, how did I play Mega Man X Collection for 100 hours?

I'm asking honestly, because I don't remember.

>>9633226
the n64 has 1080

>>9644741
Very painfully.

>>9644768
I think it's possible I adapted to the joystick for those games, because I know Gamecube's dpad is basically vestigial. I remember using it for Adventure of Link, though. Weird.

>>9644797
GC DPad was my control scheme of choice for Resident Evil games. If it's really bad, it didn't bother me at the time. I dunno.

>>9632901
Gamecube beats its but ya wii probably beats gamecube

I guess? There's not that many greats for these

>>9632901
the turds that sunk nintendo

>>9632919
Bro, you forgot about Starfox 64, Paper Mario, Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2, and Pokemon Snap vs. Luigi's Mansion, Super Mario Sunshine, Windwaker, Metroid Prime 1 and 2,Pokemon Coliseum and XD, Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, Tales of Symphonia. Both systems had amazing games.

>>9632901
Neither have any games except for Nintendo exclusives and 64 has the best bing bing wahoo

>>9645208
>Both systems had amazing games.
care to list some then?

>>9645225
I just did. I get it if you can't read though.

>>9645208
This guy just listed Sonic Adventure 2 in an argument for a Nintendo console

>>9645232
It was an exclusive until recent years.

>>9645231
>he though those were anything but trash
oh... awkward...

>>9645240
Name some good games then. I'm sure that your tastes are amazing.

>>9632973
>Multiplayer games have more replay value
Well yeah duh. That's the way it was though. Also Bomberman. Anything with more 4 player capability got played 10x as much as the single player games which just became trade in fodder after beating them and swapping with your friends to play their games

>>9632997
I was under the impression that most people that have played the original Star Fox like it.

>>9633010
This. Top 5 vs Top 5, N64 wins. Otherwise, GC wins

>>9633090
Yeah but I wouldn't play Mega Man on GC because of the level of input lag the legacy collection has. Like I'm not usually bothered by input lag but that collection has an insane amount of input lag.

>>9633741
playing smash bros. after a session of ocarina of time it felt like the game was actually alive compared to that slideshow
we didnt have a word for framerate but it was definitely a real thing

>>9633090
GC is a pretty sad "retro machine" by the standards of any 6th gen and beyond console. PS2 and Xbox both have far more retro collection and ports than GC, and the Xbox is halfway decent at emulation to boot. I don't think I even need to bring up all the retro compilation and ports on 7th, 8th, and even 9th gen consoles.

>>9633736
this is pretty much the whole arguement. I skipped 64 for a few years, so I might be biased, but outside of mario party and ogre 64 there is not much I would revisit.

>>9632916
>>9632947
/thread

>>9632995
Brothas speaking the gospel

no gaems system vs many more gaems but generally worse system

>>9644749
Yeah
Exactly

GC is a discount Wii
N64 is much more interesting and actually retro
I won’t say the N64 library is perfect, it’s not, but it’s much better than people give it credit for

>>9650329
>N64 is much more interesting and actually retro
You're going to get banned if the 6th gen mod isn't too busy making more Metroid threads

>>9633247
My main problem with 64 is the AI cheats. Get too far ahead and the 2nd place driver will literally teleport right behind you.

Dont want to make a new thread for it.

Can anyone suggest a good 3rd party controller for Switch for playing N64 games?

>>9650394
I only have experience with the wireless brawler 64 for the original hardware but I can confidently say, this company has some serious manufacturing quality control issues. I bought mine and it didn’t stay connected and the stick was more loose than my ex gf. I emailed them, they were great about sending me a replacement and the one they sent me is great. Stays connected with a tighter stick. I’m happy with it now but before I got my replacement I was seething

N64 is more interesting, but the gamecube is a very nice and well designed machine for what it is.
the disc is what kills it

>>9640384
A recolution is replacing something with a better system which some of those games did or helped doing
>S-Sony just didn't do proper controls before Nintendo did it because they didn't want to

The N64 probably has the most overrated library relative to the actual quantity of good games (or even total games) out of any console. There are entire genres that are unrepresented on the N64. But the few games it did have were well-made, and it had the advantage of more than 3-4-player multiplayer without requiring a multitap. And I say this as someone who had an N64 over its competitors during that gen.
The GameCube probably had some of the most creative, expertly crafted games of the era, or any era. It has way more variety than the N64, but some of the sequels to N64 games aren't as good (Mario Sunshine, Star Fox Adventures & Assault) though some sequels are considerably better (F-Zero GX, Paper Mario TTYD, Rogue Squadron 2). It had a decent amount of new IPs and third-party support (Baten Kaitos, Lost Kingdoms, Gotcha Force, Cubivore, etc). But a major complaint against the GameCube is how many games required extra peripherals to make the most of the experience (GBAs & link cables for FSA and FFCC multiplayer, broadband adapter for PSO and LAN support in Mario Kart and Kirby Air Ride, mic for Odama and the later Mario Party games, bongos for Donkey Kong Jungle Beat and the Donkey Konga games).
Overall, I prefer the GameCube.

How is OoT a point of discussion when it's also available for the GC?

>>9650673
By that logic no consoles matter because PC exists now and all of these conversations are moot

>>9651378
NTA but this isn't comparable. PC will alwyas win due to Emulation but Ocarina of Time was available legally a plenty on the Gamecube. It absolutely devalues using it as a score in favor for N64 since it quickly stopped being exclusive to that platform.