/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9624317
Those games kinda sucked

>>9624413
Y'know it really sucks balls when the first reply is a contrarian take.
That's it, that's all the oxygen you get.

>>9624317
itll be a remaster/remake of one the first two games iyam
either that or -monkeys paw- itll be a new story with a new main character set in some near contemporary nosgoth that ties in to the legacy of kain mythos and itll play like the new tomb raiders

>>9624479
I hope they will continue the existing story. Defiance ended on a cliffhanger for fucks sake lol. A friend of mine did the survey and asked for a remake, never having even played any of the games. Knowing how popular remakes/reboots are these days it seems inevitable.

Just fucking release a complete version of Soul Reaver based on the pre-release build.

>>9624317
A remake of Blood Omen 1 seems the most obvious thing after such a long break. Reintroduce gamers to the series from the start.
Hopefully the story makes a little more fucking sense this time.

The story was great but they really need to make better gameplay for this series.

there's absolutely no chance whatever they release is good so I don't care

a remaster or something would be cool but playing them now still gives me shudders at how good everything was
>>9624951
This would be amazing

I just finished another replay of SR1
It's just so good
looking forward to SR2 now, it's been so long the only thing I can remember is how the reaver can instantly vaporize enemies instead of the charge up finish

>>9624951
Just imagine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDXanTGK-U

>>9625172
SR2 also has frog NPCs.

It would be another dogshit fucking reboot/remake/remaster. Let the games rest in peace.

>>9625179
I really do just want all those sections finished and complete and a combat system with some more incentive behind it.

sequence breaking is fun

>>9625223

>>9625236

>>9624452
Nta but gameplay-wise, yeah they kinda sucked. They were at their best when they were either a zelda clone or a tomb raider clone, take your pick.

>>9624317
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=beoiigT1XEA&t=10s

Honestly at this point just finish the story with a novel or audio drama with the surviving voices.

LET US FIGHT TUREL

>>9624317
Lol, I got banned for making this thread when they put the survey up. It's apparently not retro to talk about surveys conducted by studios regarding their /vr/ properties. Maybe the rules have changed in the last 4 months given this thread is still up

>>9625289
I like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bizi2SPjbc

>>9625043
The story does make sense but it's insanely convoluted.

Man what the fuck were they thinking with this part of drowned abbey?!

>>9626016
I hated platforming with those fucking tank controls lol.

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>>9625043
>asking for more remakes
fuck you cancer

>>9626023
Seriously

Did a spot of spear fishing ha

>>9625165
It baffles me still to this day that they cut the minimap from the final release.

>>9626045
Very nice luring him that far.

>>9626064
There was never a minimap though.

>>9626064
That's not even a minimap, that's the game world broken down by fan decompilers who datamined the alpha builds.

>>9624413
So does ur mom

>>9627105
Derp, I meant to say "world map".

>>9627108
>datamined the alpha builds
Is there a version of that that includes the cut content as a whole? From what I can tell, if memory serves, that map looks perfectly like only what we got in retail.

>>9627831
I think the map was pretty much complete but for some reason it was cut before release. It's really fucking cryptic when the Elder God tells you to "go north" when you don't even have a map to guide you.

>>9627831
There's an entire beta recovery project being spearheaded by an excessivelly obsessed autistic Slovakian fujoshi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSKQD8oqwQY

>>9627831
https://www.thelostworlds.net/SR1/World_Map_Evolution.html

>>9627862
There was no in-game map at any point during development, what is being referred to here is the physical game world map that loads in from area to area.

>>9627897
Interesting! I always thought the devs intended to include a world map.

>>9627871
Beautiful. I also played the DNF restoration earlier this year and liked what I saw. I have maybe too much optimism for restoration projects so I hope this one will go well too.
>>9627897
That is really cool! I really love the lore and art behind SR1 and it's wild that even back then despite the graphic limitations, because of the style, even to this day it still looks good.

>>9627871
>autistic Slovakian fujoshi
how fitting given the game's original director/writer

>>9624317
more like legacy of michael jackson

>>9628060
>kain was hee-hee

fun with ridiculous sequence breaking

>>9628060
It'd be Michael Reaver
Or Soul Jackson?

>>9628491
CAUSE THIS IS REAVIN
REAVIN NIGHT

>>9625271
>Zelda clone
Zelda was never an RPG.

>or a Tomb Raider clone
Soul Reaver's combat was far more advanced than anything in Tomb Raider, and its puzzles, aside from block pushing segments, were completely different.

The gameplay was one of the few things that made the series such a stand-out. Impaling vampires, throwing them into sunlight, sucking their souls out, dying fading into the spirit realm. Shit was innovative as fuck for the time.

Make a game set between Blood Omen 2 and Soul Reaver
>play as one of the vampire generals
>kill humans and shit
>other stuff
It seems like an easy game to make and would be highly successful

>>9628873
If there's one thing that's missing from the Legacy of Kain series, it's "other stuff".

>>9628876
I'm not an ideas guy, I can't think of what else you would do. Whatever you do in the other games I guess but it's set during either the early days of the vampires or the peak (shortly before SR begins).
Fuck that Nosgoth shooter shit though. It's non-canon and never should have been created

>>9624317
there's no hope for this series. every game has to be for everyone these days. it'll be open-world-action-adventure-map-marker-sidequest-busywork garbage like every other game. dead sun was just the tip of the iceberg; whatever they deliver will be so much worse. they're going to try and grab the witcher audience. guarantee the writer's room will be filled with "yes, and" retards trying to make it their own.

>>9628890
>Nosgoth shooter
For a second I thought you were talking about some random dude in Nosgoth who shot up a temple and drove the Serafan to disarm the population. I didn't know there was a cancelled shooter game based on the universe.
See, you're an idea guy after all.

>>9628876
This is very true. I think a Legacy of Kain game that leans into an RPG style would be really cool. Given the series emphasis on narration and writing, Dragon Age-style dialog options would fit really well into LoK.

>>9624413
I really hate to say it, but this is true. I went back and played Soul Reaver 1 for the first time in about a decade back in July last year and it's the only retro game I've ever played that I feel didn't age well. These games really are only worth their story and dialogue. They should've made a movie instead.

>>9628902
>Dead Sun
Oh man... You know, I'm glad it got cancelled.

I'm most worried that they will release a remake and completely negate all lore that's been built up. It's so fucking intricate and well done and the thought that these faggots might tear it all down depresses me.

>>9629047
What did you think felt aged about Soul Reaver?

>>9629053
Not him but the box puzzles take too long, not because they have to be solved, but because pushing them around takes fucking forever. There's way too many of them, too. Should've used those resources to make the platforming and combat better and more fluid.

>>9629064
I didn't mind the block puzzles as they were very varied but yes, platforming could have been made much better.

>>9624487
>I hope they will continue the existing story. Defiance ended on a cliffhanger for fucks sake lol.
Crystal Dynamics have a shitty track record for resolving storylines before reboots. See Tomb Raider.

>>9625043
Or, get this. Just play the fucking games. Every single one of them is on PC, and will run on any potato.
>But they're buggy on modern OS's.
Use the fan patches that take 5 minutes to install.
>But the music is fucked in SR1 and SR2 has too many crashes and won't work with my Xbawx pad. ;(
Emulate SR1 for PS1. Either emulate SR2 or use Xidi with the PC version. Triggers work too.

There's 0 reason to remake any of the games, except for Soul Reaver due to all the cut content. Give us a sequel to Defiance and end the fucking tale. Remake all you want, later.

>>9629170
Agreed on all counts
Too bad Hennig is on some star wars project now, we'll never get Defiance conclusion.