/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9608969
well i wouldn't say completely cause of coliseum's unique atmosphere, but yeah perfectly understandable opinion gameplay wise really
anyway uhhhh doubutsu no mori e+, assuming there's a good translation for it now or you can just read katakana and kanji (the latter of which is only in that game), if not animal crossing does that for its prequels already

>>9608995
oh and not a sequel, but the pal version of luigi's mansion

coliseum had better music

only important thing xDDD did better was fixing shadow purification to make it way less tedious. Colosseum had the better story/characters (for what that's worth), better locations, better music, and the focus on only allowing a limited number of mostly johto shitmons made the game actually decently challenging for a vanilla pokemon game and got you to use pokemon that you otherwise would probably ignore.

>>9609013
>only important thing xDDD did better was fixing shadow purification to make it way less tedious
Unless you used the glitch in Agate Village. Then it's just boring.

>>9608969
I prefer Coliseum's story and pokemon lineup, but Gale of Darkness is a definite improvement as an overall package. Still Coliseum had some very memorable battles. The Snagem admin with Entei Camerupt Eatthquake Protect combo filtered me hard as a kid.
>>9609006
>the pal version of luigi's mansion
Explain. Arent PAL games cucked at 50 FPS?

>>9609065
>Arent PAL games cucked at 50 FPS?
Most, if not all GC PAL games support 50/60. It has nothing to do with FPS. It's Hz, meaning PAL games are in 50 Hz but can also have 30 FPS games.

I regret not buying this and Colo when prices were still reasonable.

Pokemon tax + Gamecube tax is unreal, shit's like 200$ now for the game alone.

>>9609065
well apparently they are from what i heard, but it's not like i can tell unless you put them side by side, not even a euro just honestly can't see the difference
the reason why is that they greatly expanded on the hidden mansion, it's now a fun challenge instead of something that barely even changes
https://tcrf.net/Luigi%27s_Mansion_(GameCube)/Version_Differences#Europe

I think Colosseum was good in the fact that you were more or less forced to be creative with Shadow mons if you wanted to unlock everything, but XD in general was better.

that's a good topic but unfortunately all these faggots are talking about pokemon

>>9609009
And much, much, much better art direction and tone

Of course both are shitty games, though

>>9609994
jesus christ that face

>>9609275
Star Control 2 is a good example of a sequel that made the first game completely pointless
Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 as well, although I guess there are a few psychics and interface differences that I kind of prefer in RCT1. Dunno is open RCT2 emulates any of that as an option.

It's hard to name any game series where the first entry is truly worthless.

>>9608969
Pokemon xD

>>9608969
No thanks. I'll stick with the game with the more unique setting, better music and goat protagonist

>>9610524
How the fuck do you go from that to this?!

>>9608969
Both are shit

>>9610524
isn't this the ONLY time the protag ever shows any emotion?

>>9610424
>>9610524
Its janky but the weird faces sort of gave it a grungy cartoon feel like Jaime Hewlett's Gorillaz or Jet set Radio.

>>9610531
Forget that. The sequel made everybody more cartoony.

>>9610531
Nintendo is shit and wanted them to tone down the edge.

>>9608969
colosseum was better

>>9610559
in terms of his face? probably, but for a silent protagonist he actually shows a decent chunk of depth. starts out with two friendship evos and gets called out several times for being bad at lyin despite being a thief. he's rougher than gf's protags, but he ain't just edgy wario.

>>9610864
>Nintendo
*TPC

>>9610864
>releases these the same generation
totally Nintendo

>>9608969
I've never liked the graphics of these games. They felt like Dieselpunk or something like that. It never felt like PKMN. Why didn't they ever done something like the old games in 3D? Gen 4, 5 and 6 were great at that and truly felt like a PKMN experience.

>>9609013
>the focus on only allowing a limited number of mostly johto shitmons
It didn't help that you had to put up with the fact many johtomons had lame level-up sets in gen 3. XD was better in giving the Pokemon unique moves (Tri Attack Togepi, Heal Bell Dragonite), even if they got lazy and gave a lot of the Pokemon shit like Refresh.

>>9613702
The people who made Colosseum literally never touched a single Pokemon game in their lives.