/vr/ - Retro Games

AM2 were Sega's 3D gods.

Sonic Team are hacks. Their best games are those that don't involve sonic and even then they're mediocre at best. AM2 rapes and gapes them.

I want to pound Amy in the butt so bad. I would save my nut for a week and then fill that ass up if you know what I mean.

>>9588987
I know exactly what you mean but only if we're talking about her Sonic Adventure design.

>>9588930
>>has the best 3d art in the series
There's Sonic World

>>9588946
are Burning Rangers and Nights actually good?

>>9589020
Actually, yes. Burning Rangers is a fantastic game and the camera controls are surprisingly good for the era. The only problem that the game really has is that it's short.

NiGHTS is alright but it's basically an arcade game and a lot of people don't seem to understand that.

>>9589016
SOUL

>>9589016
...which is an admirable effort but still clearly worse than Sonic the Fighters

>>9589068
This looks way better

>>9589093
No, it doesn't.

>>9589101
It literally does though.

>>9589101
Amy took fighting lessons from Marty McFly, it seems.

Does this game run well in mame? I used to play it on the Gamecube collection and I'd like the check it out again.

>>9588930
Combination of
>AM2
>Fighting game
>Arcade game
>Goes for an expressive style

>>9589068
One is running on $400 consumer hardware, the other is running on $5000+ arcade hardware. Gee I wonder why the Arcade looks better...

>>9588987
What the fuck is wrong with white people?

>>9589020
Nah, Burning Rangers is a letdown. The shoenorned sonic ring mechanic where you have to collect crystals to stay alive is dumb and shit. Bad framerate makes it annoying to actually time the backflip reaction mechanic when shit explodes, and the camera is bad in a lot of narrow stages. The music carries it hard, and it only serves as a bitter reminder that it should've been an anime instead (and would've been a fantastic one).

>>9589067
>>9589093
Why do these look so different?

>I wonder why the Arcade looks better
It doesn't though. The lines are smoother but the art direction of the Saturn game is much better and more inline with the original games.

>>9589195
>Bad framerate makes it annoying to actually time the backflip reaction mechanic when shit explodes
This is only a problem on an emulator.
>>9589196
Emulation.

>>9589169
hey, not my fault that the retard claimed Sonic Jam was better

>>9589230
But the model is different

>>9589189
black nerds are worse about this type of shit honestly

>>9589256
It's the same model. It's a slightly different angle and one image is using a smoothing filter.

>>9588930
Does this game run well in mame or is the Gamecube collection the best way to play?

>>9589296
Model2 Emulator is the best option, but the GC collection is a decent alternative

>>9589189
You fell for the bait what a retard lmao

>>9589296
I played the PS3 port in RPCS3. It officially adds Honey the Cat as a secret character.

>>9589395
I had no idea there was a PS3 port. Who the hell is Honey the Cat?

>>9589230
>This is only a problem on an emulator.
nta but I've got a physical jap Saturn and a (burned) burning rangers copy and I experienced the same thing with the backflipping. it doesn't quite feel like dropped inputs I don't think but it still fucks with the ability to react. really wanted to like the game too but between that and the "you're getting warmer, wait no colder, okay warmer, warmer, almost there" gameplay it left me pretty indifferent

>>9589486
>Who the hell is Honey the Cat?
A Fighting Vipers reference.

>>9589486
She was an unused character that people found in the files of the original games. Basically just a cat version of Honey/Candy from Fighting Vipers. When they released the game on PS3/Xbox 360, they officially added a way to play her as a hidden character without hacking the game.

>>9588987

>>9589151
I don't think so, but it works in Model 2 emulator which is a brilliant emu. They mogged MAME so hard like 15 years ago there's little point in them even trying.

>>9589296
You can "pirate" the 360 port by downloading the free trial on XBLA on a real 360, copying it over to an USB stick, copy-pasting that to your PC and just firing it up in Xenia.
Xenia has a feature that lets you upgrade most XBLA free trials to the full game and the Xbox 360 has no DRM on the digital games themselves, all copy-protection happens on the console side.
You can use this method to get some other retro XBLA ports as well like Virtua Fighter 2 and Fighting Vipers.

>>9588930
It's also probably better than any Saturn Sonic game inculding Virtua Fighter. Go figure

>>9589016
No

>>9589020
I thoroughly enjoyed NiGHTS but Burning Rangers has some annoying issues (cutscene after every rescue, confusing maps, no actual enemies or music, etc.) and just comes off as a tech demo for me.

>fighting game where everyone's limbs are an inch long

>>9588930
>We want sonic in 3D
>They port Sonic 3D blast instead of this despite the port being easy since it runs on the same hardware revision as Fighting Vipers
Never change SEGA

>>9589656
>cutscene after every rescue
Cutscenes are fucking awesome
>confusing maps
This is a (you) problem
>no actual enemies
There literally are though. There are robots that attack you and there are boss fights. Did you even play the game?
>no music
https://youtu.be/1pSk2EVCxiQ

>>9589495
>I've got a physical jap Saturn and a (burned) burning rangers copy and I experienced the same thing with the backflipping
Did you play it on a CRT?

>>9588930
>>9589101
>>9589937
>>9589938


I'm confused because these look more aesthetically pleasant than Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, despite running on older hardware.

>>9589989
It's an arcade game.

>>9590017
>It's an arcade game.

That doesn't explain much. I think it have something to do with the solid, smoth-colored textures and non gouraud-shaded polys.

>>9589495
The levels are really a chore to progress through. Was hoping for something cool like Tomb Raider or something but having to guess where to go next caught me off guard.

>>9589938
>kkk
Based game

>>9588930
I think it's the squash and stretch and expressiveness of the models. Sonic always had a lot of the tenants of traditional American animation in his character design, so it makes sense he'd look good when some of the rules of animation are applied to him.

I do get why they went in the direct they did for Sonic Adventure though. Expressiveness doesn't really matter when the camera is behind the character, squash and stretch takes a lot of processing power to do, and longer legs make it easier for the player to gauge how fast they're accelerating and which direction they're going in the z-axis.

>>9588930
Still the only 3D game with actual proper squash 'n stretch animations. CHUNKY ASS POLYGONS NIGGA

I'm sure this game is like horrid imba jank shit if you play against humans, but the aesthetics are just so chill and the characters are satisfying to play, and 30 second rounds is a hilarious gimmick. i unironically really really like this game.

>>9589296
Xbox 360/PS3 has hidden characters made functional so it has the most in it. Game works great on model 2 emulator. if not emulating, then the full version of the game is available both in Sonic Gems Collection and in the arcades in Yakuza spinoff Lost Judgement.

>>9589101
I love pre-Adventure Amy

>>9589118
>It literally does though.

The 3D world seen in Sonic Jam is cool and all, but comparing it to a Model 2 game? Ehh...? Sadly Sonic: The Fighters was planned to be ported to the Saturn by AM2. I think they even had a working prototype for the game on the Saturn. But for whatever reason, it was canned. Bean and Bark in Fighters MegaMix for the Saturn, may have been left-overs from that port. I always wondered that Sonic the Fighters could have looked like on the Saturn. It probably would have run at 60fps in standard resolution mode with the stretch and squash animation in tact. I would have probably bought it too :(

>>9589016
Based and jampilled

>>9589497
>>>9589486
>>Who the hell is Honey the Cat?
>A Fighting Vipers reference.

Sonic and Tails character data is hidden in the arcade version of Fighting Vipers, but the characters are unacceptable. They were apparently meant to be hidden fighters. But it may have also been testing for Sonic the Fighters, as StF uses the same game engine as Fighting Vipers. because AM2 made both games around the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQY4g42pFlo

>>9589937
God Sonic is so based, I hate women.

>>9589989
Because Sonic's design never should've been changed

>>9591370
>StF uses the same game engine as Fighting Vipers
Why hasn't anyone made a romhack that converts the game into Sonic the Fighters? Sonic fans love doing autistic shit like that.

>>9591661
Because Sonic the Fighters already exists? I don't get what you're suggesting.

>>9589151
I don't know, but you can play it in the in-game Club Sega arcades in Lost Judgment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSw_MFLupdA

>>9591661
Sonic and Tails are deeply hidden in the code of Fighting Vipers already
>>9591791
He just wants to see Sonic characters beat on humans, which I get

>>9592150
>He just wants to see Sonic characters beat on humans
The opposite. I would much rather see Amy get fucked by humans than to see Sonic and his pals fuck a human.

>>9591376
>Because Sonic's design never should've been changed

And this too.

>>9589989
There's a lot less posturing to be cool and hip and a lot more fun happening.

>>9589067

This one screenshot looks more "Sonic" than any other 3D Sonic game ever made.

>>9589989
Art style is more important than graphical capability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vko1ZW-GOsg

This is literally all I ever wanted out of a 3D Sonic game.

>>9588930
I just realized that this game was probably just Sonic trying to ride on Virtua Fighter's popularity and failing... It's sad how badly Project Sonic ended up failing at making Shitnic popular in japan.

>>9589101
What a dunce.

>>9589020
NiGHTS absolutely, it's one of my favorite games of all time.

>>9593627
This pretty much

>>9589504
Can you play as her in the gamecube version using an action replay?

>>9589937
I forgot this is where amy got her hammer

>>9589016
I'm trying to convey a "Nah" as dismissively and derisively as I can through text. I think "Neh" is as close as possible to the sound I'm after. So, neh.

>>9594657
According to a web search, no. Her model was removed in Sonic Gems Collection.