/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9579419
AV Famicom?

I just use an AV Famicom and use a flaschart for FDS games

>>9579419
AV Famicom is better, sorry OP.

>>9579461
FPBP

>>9579419
>>everything was expensive jpg

>>9579419
Retron 5: nobody posted the "my wife loves it" meme

>>9579419
Only downside is the hardwired controllers

>>9579419
Why do these Twin Famicoms look like they're way older than they actually are? The aesthetic looks like it's from the 1960s.

AV Famicoms have one big issue in that they improperly mix audio from cartridge expansion chips/FDS, leading to weird volume issues on those channels compared to console's stock audio. There are hardware mods to fix that though.

>>9579691
You can use a controller that uses the gun/controller port. I do that with my Famicom.

>>9579419
Wasn't there an audio balancing issue that is different than using the original Famicom with a disc system? Even using an AV Famicom with a disc system had different balancing too. So which is the best balance between the audio channels?

>>9579623
You mean wife's boyfriend/bull/son

>>9579729
Problem with that is there's a good handful of games that don't work with that port.
Notable stuff includes SMB2 and Battletoads, and a some other titles like Solstice (and if you care, a decent amount of homebrews)

>>9579885
I've never seen one of these working. Even new out of the box they don't read carts.

>>9579868
Yeah, even some of the later model regular Famis have fucked up expansion audio balance (I'm not sure which models, but I think they were doing the FF branding era). From my recollection, the FF original Famicoms are an easy fix, Twin Famis were also maybe an easy fix, but the AV Famicom requires more extensive modding to correct the audio.

>>9579868
Man, I'd like to get a Wondermega or Xeye.
>>9579941
I have a pretty good collection of Famicom Games, but I don't have those carts.... I wonder if this same problem would appear if I used my Famicom N8? And if so are there patches to resolve such issues?

>>9579623
Just think of all that saved space!
God I miss old /vr

I cleaned up a red Twin Famicom that I got along with some other thing, but sadly the disk drive is shot (presumably the belt) and I'm too lazy to fix it.

>>9579979
same, i have one I bought for $40 8 years ago and bought a replacement belt for $2, i still haven't put it in lol, im actually thinking about selling it, I never use it, I just use my mister these days

>>9579992
I have a CIB Famicom Disk System... I guess I haven't used it in a while either. LOL I don't know if I want to sell it though. I did remember to take the batteries out at least.

>>9579952
>I wonder if this same problem would appear if I used my Famicom N8?
Yes, the expansion port doesn't work simply because the game didn't account for it. Patching games to work with it would likely not be as simple as it could be due to how $4016/17 are setup (I don't think the required change would fit inline in most game's input handlers), but I could certainly be wrong and you could probably get it working. I'm not aware of any such patches since its really kind of a niche issue

>>9579950
I had a Retron 3 which was at least hardware based instead of just a glorified emulator, but it had awful Genesis sound and smelled like cheap plastic cooking whenever it was in use.

>>9579868
It's entirely subjective. I like the loud, harsh AV Famicom expansion audio, others totally hate it. Many find the Twin Fami to be a nice balance. I find the Famicom and Twin to be really "warm" sounding, but quiet for expansion stuff.

>>9579419
Oops, wrong pic.

>>9580329
No turbo buttons.

>>9579461
correct

>>9579419
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>>9579868
>>9580329
all these have short controls that are hardwired to the console which makes them inferior

>>9580683
you can still swap\upgrade membranes when they wear out
i did this on my launch model famicom
it has trss av output added though

but realistically i think the famicom av is the more reasonable choice

>>9580329
>garish RGB palette

>>9580753
it has s-video anon
you dont HAVE to use the other outputs

>>9579419
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>>9580329
Wrong. If you're a man of taste it's this

>>9580764
The colors will still be different since it has a PPU that generates RGB natively (same one as the PC-10 PPU IIRC) before encoding it into composite or S-video.

>>9580737
You replaced the controllers on a square button fami?

>>9580795
no but you can use neogeo extension cables and wire up so it takes nes controllers, even works with lightguns
id make them and sell them but the parts are getting expensive and its a v niche item

i left the original controllers on
but swapped failed membranes

>>9580753
"Garish" is canon bro, anything else is fan fiction. Also the Titler has a different RGB palette that the PC-10 "garish" one. How different I do not know.

>>9580798
nice. I thought I saw recently that someone was mass-producing Famicom EXP port to twin NES controller dongles now...

>>9580783
in all fairness
the colors are V different even on nes
when you plug into several different consumer crt

i remember even as a kid twisting the various tint knobs trying to get it to "look right"
my parents would be pissed trying to watch movies\tv and the colors would be slightly twacked from my nes gaymen

>>9580804
source on that if you dont mind

>>9580774
so yea anyay this guy is a retard and you should get an AV famicom.

>>9580801
Did Nintendo ever use it for any releases after the NES/Famicom era?

>>9580808
i have both
technically the sound chips are different

>>9580808
>you should get an AV famicom.
I have one. It's lame

>>9580774
>>9580683

>>9580807
actually managed to find it:
https://misteraddons.com/collections/parts/products/original-hardware-controller-adapters

>>9580774
Original Famicom + RF is the way the games were meant to be played.
And with Krikz's new RGB adapter thing, you can get perfect picture clarity as well without having to mod.

>>9580861
>>9580807
the contrary is more common to find
Japanese people do not care about the NES as much as we care about the Famicom, non surprisingly

I have a honk kong famicom

That's all

>>9580861
Can you use a NES Zapper through that?

>>9581509
>I have a honk kong
Looks like it. Not aware there was ever an official one with AV and real ones say "hong kong version" on the front. Does yours say "honk kong famicom" on the front?
There were a buttload of hong kong hack jobs. Check the RF board,

>>9581596
yep, that's how the mod looks

>>9580683
They have expansion port you can plug controllers in. You can get an adapter to use sfc pads with it.

>>9581597
That mod is definitely "honk kong". Like I said, check the RF board if you want to know if it's legit. Obviously there are other dead giveaways, but am assuming you checked them.

>>9581640
>You can get an adapter to use sfc pads with it
why would you want to do that?
AV fami has that too anyway

>>9581590
yes if it is wired correctly
but a lot of the cheap nes extension cables lack the wiring and you have to add it manually

>>9580774
I don't see any square buttons on that Famicom, son.

>>9583725
missed that
whats with the d-pad?????\
my fami doesn't look like that

>>9583743
Looks modded

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>>9580683
Japanese sit on the floor alot more than americans

>>9580683
There were wireless controllers before you knew what a controller was >>9584962