/vr/ - Retro Games

the name, for starters

>>9555712
Ungodly amount of SOVL in that image

I find the look kinda charming tbdesu

Better than OOT for sure

>>9555741
Fuck you dumb troll

>>9555712
easily the best game on the sega saturn. Sega's gonna release virtual hydlide 2 some day soon, i know it. I think they should make it the launch title on their next console. And they will make a new console, they just playin' saying they're not gonna do more consoles but they will, i know it

>>9555741
This. Game was inifintely more ambitious and nnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiii
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>>9555712
Wonder what that dude is doing nowadays.

>>9555798
No! No! Aggh!!

>>9555712
The framerate is abysmal all the time. It would be tolerable otherwise. I still like it but it’s really that bad and I haven’t beaten it yet after 20+ years.
>it does have nice scenery though

>score counter
its amazing games like this were still doing this shit at this point

>>9556262
When you score, you score!

hats off for trying but it was clearly not ready, neither the engine nor the console. Funny to think that as a 3D remake of Hydlide it's not horrible, but it's also incredibly off the mark. Immercenary on 3DO achieves the 3D open world action game much better, and then obviously everyone does that now in the modern games, but because the hardware and programming tricks have caught up to it. Virtual Hydlide in its time of release would have maybe been okay on 3DO or even PSX with more compromises, or would have probably run acceptably well on 64, but on Saturn it was just too much. It's unfortunate that T&E had such bad luck choosing platforms to work on in the 90's.

>>9555741
this, unironically

>>9555712
This aesthetic is marketable today.

>>9555741
>>9556523
Okay boys. Spotlight's on you. Back your claim up, why is it better than OOT? Surely you didn't say some stupid shit purely for attention, right?

Is there any game you can point to that is Virtual Hydlide done completely?

And no, please don’t look at this as an opportunity to post Skyrim, Mordor, or Souls bullshit or any other 80+ hour ‘tism sim.

I mean a simple old school action RPG that was transplanted into a 3D world with the camera locked behind the player. I don’t care if it looks just as ass, smooth gameplay is more important.

Looks unironically kino af, wish I played that back in the day, would've blown my mind.

>>9556602
If a Souls game takes you 80 hours you need to kill yourself immediately. You are not fit for this world.

If your game runs at less than 20FPS you should just mercy kill it

>>9556757
N64 sisters...

>>9556530
OOT:

>Graphics designed for babies
>Super linear
>Easy, aimed at children

Virtual Hydlide:

>Nonlinear, randomly generated world
>Photorealistic character models
>Difficult, designed for adults

Reminder the original Hydlide came before Zelda. Zelda is just a dumbed down clone really.

>>9556797
Are the graphics in OOT for babies because there are more bright colors? I don’t get that one. I think both games are relatively easy but OOT has much less slowdown, graphical problems etc. Its just a well made, solid game comparatively speaking. I guess if nonlinearity is really what you’re looking for Virtua Hydlide wins hands down. Theres only like 2 or 3 dungeons you can do out of order in OOT. I think the saturn had good action RPGs like Shining Wisdom, Legend of Oasis 2, Magic Knight Rayearth and of course SOTN, but only 2d.

>>9556757
n64 bros....we lost

it's extremely charming in its shittiness, much like me

Not a single digitized pictures game ever held up well, and not just visually but gameplay wise, the best were the early MK games but even they succeeded out of pure novelty with the look and fatalities, no one would pick them over the many vastly superior fighting games of the era today though.
Same with fmv games, pure novelty was the game and they traded presentation, which looks like ridiculous shit now so it fails on the only strength it ever had, for any sense of real gameplay or enjoyment, the best you can get out of them is some humor, intentional or unintentional.
Left behind in the trash bin of history very quickly, good riddance.

>>9556930
Fuck off back to /v/eddit with the rest of kids and those kid like minds.

>>9557042
FMVs kinda survived, we have moviegames today.

>>9557060
N64 BROS NOOOO

>>9557042

Wing Commander 3 and 4 were as close as anyone ever got to making genuinely good FMV games. There was potential there but no one ever quite figured out how to do it right

>>9557042
Doom is a "digitized pictures" game, though.

>>9557172
Fucking hell is that Gimli and Luke Skywalker?

>>9557042

its probably because digitized characters step into an uncanny valley of poor animation.

cartoon characters get much more tolerance for inaccurate motion and proportions.

people expect to see weight in motions that the actors had to pose standing still for each frame or without the speed/intensity of the recorded motion actually portrayed in the game.

>>9556602
Chantelise (2006)

>>9557172
>Wing Commander 3 and 4 were as close as anyone ever got to making genuinely good FMV games
Those aren't FMV games, they just have some FMV cutscenes. Phantasmagoria 1 and 2 however are good games that use FMV at all times

>>9555714
wat

>>9557608
like how are you supposed to pronounce it

>>9556797
>Reminder the original Hydlide came before Zelda
Reminder Ys and Dragon Buster came before it, shat on Hydildo with funny tombstone banter, and respected Zelda's critical success on making top down action adventure games and ARPG more known than ever.
Not a single jap or yank respected Hydlidickshit

>>9557619
Batuaru Haidouraidou

>>9556165
why does he run like a retard

>>9556797
Pffffhahahahah

>>9557621
>Ys
It's a 1987 game retard.
>Dragon Buster
Not even RPG.
>Zelda
Not RPG.

The only *true* action RPG that preceded Hydlide is Gateway to Apshai (1983).

>>9557790
that's how people ran in the 90s

>>9557651
Jesus Christ, dude...

>>9556530
its on the Saturn, there before i must worship it.

Live action anything in a videogame whether it be some shitty digitized sprite or full motion video cutscenes with actors just destroy the immersion and cheapen the feel of the game for me. MK did it right, and the cutscenes in disruptor weren't so bad. Every other instance I do a 360 and walk the other direction.

>>9558294
>Live action anything in a videogame whether it be some shitty digitized sprite or full motion video cutscenes with actors just destroy the immersion and cheapen the feel of the game for me.
I had Wing Commander III and that game couldn't have done a better job of integrating FMV with 3D gameplay.

Hell, it was better than the Hollywood movie itself.

>>9555712
I unironically like how it looks

>>9556797
obvious troll is obvious

>>9558197
He answered your question.

>>9558408
Poor pig.

>>9558417
I wasn't really asking, it's a terrible name, which I what my first post alluded to pretty clearly.

>>9558408
Bacon makes everything better. See ya on the other side piggy.

>>9558417
oh and the fact they had to spell it out in japanese shows how it's a terrible name in english

>>9555712
I've said this in a previous thread but there's something really fascinating about this game. As you said it's shit but at the same time the visuals make it look like something out of a fever dream. It looks like a fake game but it actually exists. It looks like something we shouldn't be able to play.

>>9557227
Yeah Mark Hamill is in Wing Commander, they went all out when hiring actors to help boost the sales of the series.

>>9558447
the fact that it was made from an engine designed for a golf game is pretty wild.

>>9557790
If you think that is, you can walk.

>>9557790
I run like that ;_;

>>9558408
Is he gonna be ok???

>>9555712
The visual style is pretty cool for the time to be desu

I wonder if someone could make a romhack and fix some of this games problems. Slowdown, framerate, draw distance, item descriptions, sound, graphics, combat, movement… eh, never mind I get it

>>9557790
Devs recorded themselves running.

>>9558454
>made from an engine designed for a golf game
huh that actually makes the graphics make sense

>>9558525
Draw distance isn't a problem. Gives a fog effect that just plastering fog particles doesn't capture.

>>9558525
just remake it

>>9558537
And the framerate sadly...

>>9557790
Takes one to know one!

>>9558408
video sauce?

>>9557790
That was how running was in the olden days.

>>9556797
I guess I'll give you some of the attention that you so badly crave.

I'm replaying it now.
f00k everything.
Maybe this time I'll get that sword that shoots fireballs or something so the will-o-wisps don't kill me so easily.

>>9555730
>>9558505
Porker is in a better place now.

>>9558435
Is it really that hard for you to read the words "Virtual" and "Hydlide"

Hydlide
Verb
1. When two dicks merge into one. This only happens in the abyss.

>>9559057
Personally I think this should be used as a movie and tv drama prop from now on.

I can actually see how this might have influenced Demon's Souls. There are some very similar concepts. The password system isn't all too different from world tendency.

I was once checking videos about obscure and weird enemies in games, then one very similar to this popped up. The enemy name was 'ILOVEYOU', I think. It was a pink shillouete of a dancing man. Does anyone knows what am I talking about? 'Been trying to find it for a long time.

>>9557042
with how cheap memory and recording equipment has gotten they offer a lot of utility to the layman. you don't need a professional animator and top tier pixel artist to create complex assets. a team with some know how can produce assets far beyond what they could manage by scratch.

>>9560259
This type of game development fell out of favor by the late 90's and I would petsonally love to see some modern attempts at it with how much tech has improved since then. Something like Virtual Hydlide made with 4k video could be something truly spectacular. Given how stagnant game development has been in the past two decades with massive budget increases along the way, it might be time to give FMV games and the like another chance

>>9560209
Demon's Souls was the most inspired by TES Oblivion according to the director though.

>>9555712
comfy crap

>>9560248
I'm just going to throw out Cho Aniki Otoko no Tamafuda as a guess.

There's some funny stuff about this game. As someone mentioned it's using a golf engine. Also, the 'talking' sounds the vampire boss makes are the golf announcement voices but garbled/reversed.

>>9556262
The score is also your money at the one shop in the game.

It's an awful game but you can beat it in like an hour or two, I'd recommend playing it through if only so you can experience the total suffering of finding the sword of light or whatever among the mimics in the 'final' dungeon.

>>9560438
Worst thing I can say about it, is that its dull. Then again i have a soft spot from playing all those flash games where you constantly chase after the horizon.

>>9555712
this is one of the first roguelikes

>>9560680
The first true roguelike game came out in 1978 retard.

>>9560683
rogue isn't a roguelike, it's rogue.

>>9560683
>1978
omfg. I just quickly looked this up and found some examples.
Amazing that guys were creating computer simulations (games) from pencil & paper D&D back then.

>>9560290
No, sony wanted a ps3 exclusive oblivion, fromsoft said "yeah ok we're making that" and made something else instead

>>9555712
You have to respect the attempt, graphics aren't varied or new in any way nowadays.

>>9560315
Thanks for the guess anon, but I remember pretty clearly that the game was in color. I also feel like the dancing enemy is picrel but in solid pink

>>9560248
>>9561253
Here you go anon, it's Drakken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnE9XEC5mWw

Every enemy is fucked up like that.

>>9561354
I had that on SNES, such a weird game

great soundtrack though:

https://youtu.be/D9RY6xSus1w

>>9561397
Groovy, I like it.

>>9555714
what is your favorite flavor of paint, anon

>>9560438
>Also, the 'talking' sounds the vampire boss makes are the golf announcement voices but garbled/reversed.
Good lord, shameless.

Good job assholes, you've actually convinced me to but and play this game. Was expecting it to cost a fortune but Japanese copies are surprisingly cheap

>>9561546
Haha, yeah. I’ve almost bought this game a couple of times myself and was also amused that it’s still super cheap.

>>9561354
>>9561397
That's the one, thank you anon!

>>9555721
I know, it’s so powerful. I love the way this looks.

>>9558191
>>9558796
it was a new way to set them free

>>9558191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxJCOVsV1E