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>> No.9515490

>>9515483
Coming Soon™ ;)

>> No.9515517
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>> No.9515526

>>9515483
>>9515517
Certainly not these dogshit nongames

>> No.9515540
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>> No.9515565

>>9515526
Isn't Princess Crown a 2D beat em up though?

>> No.9515580

>>9515483
None. The good ones are already fan translated and the others mostly have their quality inflated by a bunch of dumb JOPs.

>> No.9515671

>>9515483
None. If the game were good, it would have been translated already.

>> No.9515743

>>9515671
The good ol' cope mantra.

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>> No.9516109

>>9515746
u wot m8

>> No.9516137

Lunatic Dawn. A series of japanese CRPGs by Artdink

>> No.9516140
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9516140

>>9516137
Forgot my pic

>> No.9516178

>>9515540
Based

>> No.9516382

>>9515743
>says this in english

>> No.9516383

>>9515580
>The good ones are already fan translated
So give OP a list of those. Since fan translations are always shit.

>> No.9516460
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9516460

>>9515483
I love this game so much. It's an absolute meme of a game. It's packed with a ton of humor that you will love if you're a Sega fan (or at least, if you favor the real Sega (SoJ)), and because the game has been impossible to translate it's led to this amazing status where people just shit on it as a cope for never being able to play it. Among games worth learning Japanese for, this is definitely a top 10 title. It's not he greatest game in the world or anything, but it's a fun game and it's absolutely worth it to play the game just to flex on EOP's.

>> No.9516485

>>9515483
There's a lot of story-based games that are really shitty in English due to bad localizations but are decent or even good games in Japanese. I would give you some recommendations but honestly this description applies to most of them. Even basic shit like Pokemon and Secret of Mana are a lot better in Japanese. So basically, if there's a story, it's better in Japanese.

>> No.9516489

>>9515483
Why are people always begging for Japanese translations? There are plenty of great games only playable in other languages like German that english only speakers cannot play but people rarely mention

>> No.9516502

>>9516489
Because learning jap is essentially needing to comprehend an alien language while most euro languages are just word swapping.

>> No.9516521

>>9515580
this.
t. fluent since 7 years back

>> No.9516524

>>9515580
More often than not it's EOPs hyping up 5/10 games because the cover art looks good or some shit. Like Hungry Ghosts.

>> No.9516530

>>9516489

Oh yeah name five

>> No.9516596

>>9516489
Westoids have never made a good game.

>> No.9516614

>>9516596
what about all those games japan took ideas from

>> No.9516842

>>9516614
Most of them were shit and the only versions of them which are worth playing were completely reprogrammed by Japanese developers. For example: Ultima, Wizardry and Prince of Persia. The Japanese turned them intk actual decent games and the difference between them and the originals is day and fucking night.

The single and only exception is Breakout, but that led to Space Invaders which literally gave birth to the entire Japanese gaming industry.

>> No.9516852
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9516852

Anything from this series and plenty of other japan-only PS1 titles
>>9515580
That's some bullshit cope, not saying that there is some 10/10 "hidden" from people that don't know japanese but there is still plenty of good stuff that will probably never recieve a translation any time soon

>> No.9516862

>>9515483
There's quite a few decent Japanese FMV games.

>> No.9516887

I'd like to play the Boku no Natsuyumi games

Giftpia as well

>> No.9516918

>>9516596
This.

>> No.9516923

>>9516489
Oh yeah like shit simulator games and terrible point and click adventure games that lack the charm of LucasArts, Sierra and other non-german devs? Or maybe Airline 69 and other cartoon porn games?

>> No.9516928

>>9516140
how is the fan translation?

>> No.9516932

>>9516928
Why do you guys always ask about the quality of translations written by people who aren't even fluent in Japanese?

>> No.9516995

>>9515483
AI's getting better, soon we won't need to learn Japanese, it will accurately translate material without the need of localizers. Best of all no dank memes or dated references from 'current' events that became outdated before the games were released, or in this case, before the romhack comes out.

>> No.9517015

>>9516852
>but there is still plenty of good stuff that will probably never receive a translation any time soon
Well, who gives a shit? The vast majority of that amounts to niche games that most people won't like or care about.

>> No.9517031

>>9516995
>AI's getting better, soon we won't need to learn Japanese,
It's really not. It appears like it is because the end result is usually correct English, but the quality of the translation itself is still really really bad. I have to translate some stuff from Japanese to English for my work before the new year rolls around (I'm not a translator, but I'm the only person in the company who is bilingual enough to do translation so I sometimes get stuck translating stuff) and I thought I could cheese it and run everything through DeepL since it's all super straightforward and grammatically correct with no slang or anything. Simple business language. Fucking nope, errors everywhere and I ended up having to actually translate it all myself. I was really disappointed because I was hoping that I could finish early with machine translation and then read a book or something but I'm pretty sure my ass would be in hot water if I turned in what DeepL gave me.

Btw, a ton of official translations (fan and official) are done by machines these days and that's a big part of why they're so bad, because machine translation is awful and the actual "translator" doesn't actually know the language so they're incapable of catching the mistakes when they happen.

Anyone who is actually fluent in Japanese and English would know that machine translation still has an extremely long way to go.

>> No.9517034

>>9517015
>niche games that most people won't like or care about
Speak for yourself. When I started getting back into retro gaming I began by picking up all of my childhood favorites, but in the long run much of my enjoyment has come from playing niche games that I missed out on.

>> No.9517036

>>9517034
Well, congrats. You're a hipster. Do you want a sticker and lollipop? Even most retro enthusiasts don't care about these kinds of games.

>> No.9517061

>>9517015
>vast majority
Give me a hard number for that. 75%? 90%? Just pull it out of your ass. That's all you're doing anyway. But commit to it. Then I'm going to do some racist math stuff that'll blow your little zoomie mind.

>> No.9517071

>>9517036
>Even most retro enthusiasts don't care about these kinds of games.
"most retro enthusiasts" would be the normies worship shit that didn't sell well like Earthbound and thrive on hidden gem videos on YouTube. What the hell are you even talking about.

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>>9517015
Yes, just like it was for basically every fan translated game that isn't part of a series or made by a popular studio when they didn't have patches available. You absolute retard. Most of the games in this thread have hg101 articles written about it, anyhow, which regardless of how niggerish you find that site to be proves that there are people in the west that do give a shit.

>> No.9517075 [DELETED] 

>>9517072
>hg101
Serious question; what's that?

>> No.9517097

>>9517061
I'd say 90%. You can do whatever the fuck kind of math you want.

>>9517071
>Yes, just like it was for basically every fan translated game that isn't part of a series or made by a popular studio when they didn't have patches available.
It's not 2005 anymore. Fan translations are pretty common these days thanks to social media and other platforms making it easier for like-minded people to get together and work on projects. Most games that enough people care about have already been fan translated.
>Most of the games in this thread have hg101 articles written about it
Okay, and? HG101 is just a catalog of games. It does nothing to gauge actual interest in those titles.

>> No.9517149

>>9517031
can't wait for AI, we're almost there.

>> No.9517173

>>9515483
Saturn's japanese only cover arts are so damn good.

>> No.9517174

>>9517015
Well i do care and that's all that matters
>>9517097
Fan translations are about as common as they always used to be but now you see more games for either "modern" consoles or obscure platforms getting translated, it still takes a long time to see new releases, for example for the PS1 just 15 games have been translated this year and there are still hundreds and hundreds of potential interesting titles left.

>> No.9517179

>>9517015
>I don't care so why should anyone else get to enjoy it, fuck your options.
uh mazin, and on Christmas too

>> No.9517181

>>9517174
And i just noticed a ChoroQ game for the PS1 recieved a translation today
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/6764/

>> No.9517182

>>9517181
>ChoroQ
big if true

>> No.9517183

>>9517174
>for example for the PS1 just 15 games have been translated this year and there are still hundreds and hundreds of potential interesting titles left.
Again - most of these games probably aren't that good or worth playing. Caring about this shit is more of a horder's mentality than anything else.

>> No.9517185

>>9517183
Why are you even on /vr/? Go back to playing your battle royale games instead of calling what you don't know or understand "not worth playing"

>> No.9517193

>>9517185
It doesn't take being a collector boomer in their mid-30s to understand Sturgeon's Law, anon. What are you on about?

>> No.9517194

>Prerendered visual
>Medieval fantasy style jrpg
Looks pretty cool

>> No.9517197

>>9517183
let him enjoy it, you don't care, he does, why are you so assmad about him having the option to play it, you're so backwards.
Are you one of those retards that complains to modders on why they made mods for a game?

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>>9517194

>> No.9517202

>>9517197
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to play it. I'm saying there isn't some treasure trove of high quality untranslated games out there.

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By Koji Igarashi, strange this one was not released overseas.

>> No.9517204

>>9517193
I strongly feel that doesn't really apply to the peak years of console gaming, you could easily apply that to modern gaming since that's the true shovelware/bad game zone and i'll refrain myself from explaining it further since this is a retro board.

>> No.9517210

>>9517204
>I strongly feel that doesn't really apply to the peak years of console gaming
I think that's absolute horseshit. The PS1 had a massive library of shovelware due to its rather low barriers to entry compared to other platforms. Same goes for the PC market - especially in places like Europe.

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I learn Jap because i refuse to play unofficial translations.

>> No.9517217

>>9517210
>The PS1 had a massive library of shovelware

Compared to what? Your argument falls apart when you look at everything else that came after, the only thing you got right is that PC always was shovelware zone well fucking duh, literally anyone could release anything on that platform

>> No.9517225

>>9517217
>Compared to what?
Compared to every other platform out that gen?
>Your argument falls apart when you look at everything else that came after
Yeah, that's called industry growth. It's the same shit, just at a different scope and scale. The concept is still the same. There has always been lots of companies incentivizing the release of shoddy, cheaply-made products to make a quick buck.

>> No.9517226

>>9517216
And then you unofficially translate it in your head
roflmao

>> No.9517241

>>9517225
>Compared to every other platform out that gen?

Sure but the PS1 library was also 4 times larger than the Saturn and like 10 times larger than the N64, even if you cut all the shovelware away there is still a very substantial number of games left, even by the most strict (hopefully educated) standards it would be in the hundreds, in other words no its not 99% shit no matter how you wanna spin it.

>> No.9517249

>>9516852
one of the games is directed by suda51
one of the chunsoft kamaitachi no yoru remakes on ps3 was written by ryukishi07. interesting as fuck and ill never have time to play them frown face

>> No.9517258

>>9517249
>Kamaitachi no Yoru

Another series that is untranslated, the original title got translated but only for iOS which means its impossible to emulate too

>> No.9517271

>>9516460
That game is shit for anyone beyond its niche; basically, a visual novel. It only proves you wrong: seems like learning japanese was a waste of time if you did it only for games. Try flexing it beyond your circle and everybody will laugh at you, just like I'm doing it now. Hell, even other japanese speakers in threads like this recommend something better.

>> No.9517272

>>9517241
>even if you cut all the shovelware away there is still a very substantial number of games left
Yeah, and the majority of the good, playable games in that group are either A. not in Japanese or B. have already been translated in some capacity.

>> No.9517336

>>9517272
>no matter how you wanna spin it

>> No.9517338

>>9517015
>The vast majority of that amounts to niche games that most people won't like or care about.
You mean games that are actually worth a damn instead of being pleb slop?

>> No.9517348

>>9517338
Stop being a dumbass hipster contrarian.

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>>9517271
>learning new thing to enjoy more of thing you enjoy is a waste of time

>> No.9517386

>>9517097
>I'd say 90%
So with thousands of Japan exclusives you're missing out on hundreds of games that by your own admission are games that most people would want to play
>You can do whatever the fuck kind of math you want.
Indeed I can. If your school taught you real shit instead of made up pronouns you'd be able to do a simple calculation like above in your head and avoid embarrassing yourself by being too stupid to do simple arithmetic let alone learn a language. You'd also know how to measure the pH of those grapes.

>> No.9517408

>>9517367
Splendid choice of words! "Thing that (you) enjoy". Telling people to learn japanese and using Segagaga as a reward will demotivate 99.9% of people. You can like watching paint dry, no problem. But, the moment you brag about "flexing", it's not about personal preferences anymore, and you'll be a target for laughter and scorn, because you're being such a clueless prick.

>> No.9517423

>>9517386
>So with thousands of Japan exclusives you're missing out on hundreds of games that by your own admission are games that most people would want to play
No? I'm saying even most of those hundreds of Japan exclusives are probably mediocre at best, which makes them unremarkable and unworthy of people's attention in this day and age.

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>>9517423
>in this day and age
>implying gaming got better

>> No.9517441

>>9517429
Again, your hipster nonsense is showing.

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Not sure if the final volume was even released due to DC croaking but, seems pretty cool

>> No.9517523

>>9517441
Sir this is a retro game board

>> No.9517672

>>9517226
beats having to read shit that was most likely tl'ed by a tranny or tranny adjacent person

>> No.9517683

>>9515490
please

>> No.9517937

>>9517149
Look at that new AI that everyone's been going crazy about this month. It's just like a real translator in that it makes shit up when it doesn't know the answer.

The English that AI translation spits out is now grammatically correct unlike 10 years ago. But the actual translation itself is still garbage. There's a very long way to go.

>> No.9517940

>>9517183
>most of these games probably aren't that good or worth playing
This is just cope that EOP's tell themselves in order to avoid FOMO.

>> No.9517945

>>9517202
>there isn't some treasure trove of high quality untranslated games out there
You have no way of knowing since you can't play them.

>> No.9517946

>>9517226
>translate it in your head
You don't do that if you actually know the language...

>> No.9517959

>>9517258
My boss recommended that game to me a while back. I picked it up and it's sitting on my shelf still waiting to be played. There's like a million other games I want to play first ( ´Д`")
>>9517271
>That game is shit for anyone beyond its niche
That's like saying Pokemon is shit for anyone who doesn't like Pokemon. If you don't like it then don't play it. It's a game for Sega fans, why would you play it if you're not one?
>basically, a visual novel.
It's not a visual novel
>learning japanese was a waste of time if you did it only for games. Try flexing it beyond your circle and everybody will laugh at you, just like I'm doing it now.
I live in Japan. I learned Japanese for a lot of reasons. Games and other forms of media were definitely one reason, but the primary reason was always to be a full-functioning member of society. Just because you're a loser doesn't mean that everyone else on this board is, anon. If I flexed beyond my circle that I can speak Japanese then they would just have fun with it and be impressed that I was able to do the thing that 99.9999% of foreigners can't do.

But even if I had only learned it for games, there's still a ton of other great games that I've played in Japanese that I would say it was absolutely worth it for.

>Hell, even other japanese speakers in threads like this recommend something better.
Most of the people who shit on this game have never even played it. The ones who have can't even speak Japanese and followed some online guide and white noised all of the dialogue.

>> No.9517962

>>9517408
The anon you're arguing with isn't even the anon who posted about Segagaga. I am. You're a retard.

>> No.9517969

>hurr AI will translate it for me
Is the AI also going to edit the ROM file to hack the new script in, or what? Surely no one here is dumb enough not to realize that making the translation itself is by far the easier part.

>> No.9518002

>>9516489
Europeans can't make good games, but I'll admit that they have a better comics industry.

>> No.9518032

>>9517031
>>9517031
This gives me some hope, fuck AI translators :)

>> No.9518040

>>9517226
Idiot, this is how expressing yourself through art works, you don't know exactly what the artist is ever saying, you're just interpreting it into your own understanding. With fan translations, you're interpreting some faggots interpretation.

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Doukyuusei series
Dragon Knight 4
Shuusaku
Only You
Yoru ga Kuru
Daiakuji

>> No.9518143

>>9518040
Oh yeah cause "Panty-Chan the 600 Year Old Dragon's Incestual Statutory Rape Adventures in Another World" for PC-98 is a fuckin work of art. If it ain't in English, there's a good fuckin reason. I don't care if I'm interpreting an interpretation because it's inevitably going to be superior to the original

>> No.9518163

Game that deserves a translation: Fist of the North Star (PSX)
Game that didn't even need a translation because it has 15 minutes worth of content and the story doesn't fucking matter: Bulk Slash (Saturn)

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This little piece of Kagakino, probably his best work in general

>> No.9518194

>>9517959
>It's a game for Sega fans
No. You're the one stretching. It's a game for *fanboys*, in the worst assumption of the word. If you're actually a Sega fan, there's no shortage of timeless classics across different platforms. If you learned japanese for multiple reasons, then congrats. However, next time, write your posts better, so you don't pass the pitiful impression that shit like Segagaga is what awaits whoever is trying hard to learn a foreign language. Anyway, don't think knowing japanese is anything special; aside from a few low-tier otakus, no one is or will be impressed. In your case, it's not even a plus, but a obligation: you live there, so you *have* to know their language. Do us a favor and use your so-called knowledge to post an actual fun japanese-only game which we don't know about yet.

>> No.9518212

>>9518143
>"Panty-Chan the 600 Year Old Dragon's Incestual Statutory Rape Adventures in Another World"
no
>for PC-98
yes, it is now automatically a work of art

>> No.9518213

>>9518194
Segagagagagagagaga is literally the Sega version of Big Bang Theory

>> No.9518217

Why do normalfags always come into these threads and act like everyone has to convince them to learn Japanese? Obviously if you're a complete normalfaggot there is no point learning Japanese, that's not even worth discussing.

>> No.9518218

>>9518143
>ignore the first hand account, just believe the second hand account

>> No.9518219

>>9518218
First-hand account of Panty-Chan? I'm not interested.

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>>9518213
A charming and witty timeless classic? I agree!

>> No.9518225

>>9518219
Sounds like you dont even have an interest in Pantychan to begin with.

>> No.9518229

>>9518225
No shit, I'm interested in good games—luckily they're all available in English

>> No.9518259

>>9518217
You share this boards with mouthbreathers whose favorite "retro" games are GTA San Andreas and Halo.

>> No.9518264

>>9518259
Halo is a masterpiece, you're truly spiteful if you would rather play any PC-98 game over it

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>>9518264
>if you are allergic to shellfish you cant appreciate the foods you do like

>> No.9518278

>>9518271
Yeah an excellent analogy actually because allergic people are literally dysgenic

>> No.9518343

>>9518223
>Bazinga!!11!1

>> No.9518380

>>9517937
>makes shit up when it doesn't know the answer.
Clearly this AI has been running on /vr/ for several years now
>now grammatically correct unlike 10 years ago
I guess the one shitposting here hasn't been updated yet

>> No.9518698

>>9518143
>ain't in English
I'm talking about every game, even the ones that did get translated, not even japanese games, a translation is an inherently inferior experience to first experience. Instead of reading what I wrote, you went on some schizobabble about your fetishes. Also no, I'm not saying you aren't allowed to enjoy your translations

>> No.9518760

>>9515517
Nah this one was dogshit.

>> No.9518762

>>9515517
Didn’t this one get a translation?

>> No.9518860

>>9518698
>an inherently inferior experience
Wrong, because it's in English

>> No.9518882

>>9518860
Okay this was funny, you get a free pass nice meme

>> No.9519013

>>9518194
Holy cope
>you live there, so you *have* to know their language.
You'd be surprised. The cast majority of foreigners who live in Japan don't know the language. The majority of those that know any of it are nowhere near fluent. Assimilating and becoming fluent in the language likebI did is a rare exception, not the rule.
>Do us a favor and use your so-called knowledge to post an actual fun japanese-only game which we don't know about yet.
Why, so you can make up a million cope reasons for why you think it's a bad game so that you don't have to fear missing out for not being able to play it?

>> No.9519018

>>9518229
>No shit, I'm interested in good games—luckily they're all available in English
You could say the same thing about any form of media, it doesn't make it true. Many of my favorite novels are Japanese literature which will never, ever be translated into English because it can't be or there's no audience for it in Western society, but that doesn't stop them from being among the best books I have ever read. Many of my favorite movies will also never have an English version. That doesn't make them bad or not worth watching. Games are no different. You keep making this argument that the only media worth caring about is available in your language but ignoring reality doesn't change it.

>> No.9519021

>good games
>luckily they're all available in English
lmao hahahaha

>> No.9519238

>>9519013
Thats fucking insane. I wouldn't even be comfortable visiting Jpan unless i had to for buisness without being at the very least semi confident in my ability to navigate myself around on my own, how the fuck would someone live there not knowing the local tongue?

>> No.9519442 [DELETED] 

>>9519013
>Why, so you can make up a million cope reasons
I see you went first LOL
In not one of these threads has anybody given an example of a Jap-only game that people actually want to fucking play. I don't want to play a PC-98 erotic visual novel, you dumb shit.
>>9519018
>Many of my favorite movies will also never have an English version.
There is no Japanese answer to Anabasis nor To the Last Ridge, which are the only books you need to read anyway (both available in English).

>> No.9519450

>>9519013
>Why, so you can make up a million cope reasons
I see you went first LOL
In not one of these threads has anybody given an example of a Jap-only game that people actually want to fucking play. I don't want to play a PC-98 erotic visual novel, you dumb shit, I want an actual game that's fun and doesn't consist of rejected anime writing.
>>9519018
>Many of my favorite novels are Japanese literature which will never, ever be translated into English because it can't be or there's no audience for it in Western society
There is no Japanese answer to Anabasis nor To the Last Ridge, which are the only books you need to read anyway (both available in English). Of course there will never be an English translation of useless crap—read Anabasis and you will understand.

>> No.9519463

>>9519238
Plenty of people live in America while not knowing English, I hear them squawking in their spic speak at Walmart al the time.

>> No.9519494

>>9519450
Here's the thing, nobody cares what you want to play.
Hope that helps.

>> No.9519501 [DELETED] 

>>9519494
>endless paragraphs of PLZ LERN JAPANESE
>nothing to back it up
Every time

>> No.9519509

>>9519501
I'm not that anon, but I don't recall him begging anyone to learn Japanese at any point.
I think you'll find that most people learn Japanese in order to pursue their own hobbies/interests, not to impress or proselytize normalfags on 4chan.

>> No.9519534 [DELETED] 

>>9519509
In the time it took you to effortpost you could have named one game

>> No.9519539 [DELETED] 

>>9516842
Waiting to see how Japan improved upon THPS, Deus Ex, Halo, Half-Life, GTA, Age of Empires, or Command and Conquer.

>> No.9519569

>>9519534
I already named several.

>> No.9519585 [DELETED] 

>>9519569
What's in it for me: >>9519539

>> No.9519615

>>9519013
>You'd be surprised
I wouldn't. You think you're smarter because you did the bare minimum, while some others didn't? "Look! I know how to walk, while that newborn over there doesn't. That means I'm a genius and other people are dumb!"
>Why, so you can make up a million cope reasons for why you think it's a bad game
Did I do that yet? I (along with most people) think Segagaga is barely more than a visual novel for fanboys. To be a "bad game", you need to be a game first. Now, show us an *actual* game, or gtfo and stop embarrassing japanese speakers.

>> No.9519658 [DELETED] 

>>9519615
It's curious that this thread's subject matter is the one niche on /vr/ stuck in limbo without any obvious BTFO because one side refuses to supply the games, and by waiting on them to do so it is automatically assumed you are arguing in bad faith.

>> No.9519690

>>9517945
I played through enough of Aeon Genesis' fan translation library as a broke teen on an emulation binge to know that a lot of lesser known games in Japan are mediocre crap that didn't need to be localized. This is a "grass looks greener on the other side" situation.

>> No.9520691

What are Japanese-only game recs if I like THPS, Deus Ex, Halo, Half-Life, GTA, Age of Empires, or Command and Conquer.

>> No.9520734

>>9519463
True but you "le melting pot" excuse to get away with it. Id feel like such a burden on others and personally alienated if say i were trying to live in Germany without knowing its majority spoken language.

>> No.9520739

>>9520734
The majority of Germans can speak English

>> No.9522363

>>9515483
I learned the entire language to play Dungeon Travelers 2-2 and i'm at the post game so this is a good thread.

>> No.9522413
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As someone who's followed the fan translation scene since the late '90s, which were focused on very well known titles (in those circles at the time) that just never made it overseas, like FFV and Star Ocean (the latter of which was hilariously controversial especially because DeJap blueballed everyone by claiming the lead translator's HD blew up back in 2001 or 2002 and asked for money lmao), I don't believe learning Japanese just to play video games is worth it especially in this day and age, mostly for a number of reasons.

Unless you specifically consume only Japanese media daily and use it proactively, you're not going to truly learn and comprehend the language and cultural history behind it, especially one that's so wildly different from English. That's not even getting into issues like nonsensical location jokes and references / skits that are extremely dated. There are lots of translators today, both by people who do it for a living or for fun or even AI / MTLs are getting in on the action, all of which pretty much renders that original "worth learning" part moot. On top of that, that's not even getting into the nightmare of localizations and the script purity question. Even with all of those compounded factors, there are people who still pushed through with it and there's a ton more people who know Japanese now than there was a decade or two ago, leaving a very saturated field of translators who are constantly fighting over rights to translate. There's also another thing in this thread that's worth pointing out too: most of the titles posted are either Sega Saturn, obscure PC-E or PS1/PS2 titles, the reason which is that the technology to actually inject and rewrite text, make sure it fits the boxes, etc. is a much more difficult task than translating the script itself wholesale. This is not even a new thing either, since you can find entire script translations on GameFaqs from the 90s and 00s long before the games even had working translation patches.

>> No.9522828

>>9517015
this dude had a meltdown about video games on christmas

>> No.9522861
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>>9522413
>and there's a ton more people who know Japanese now than there was a decade or two ago, leaving a very saturated field of translators who are constantly fighting over rights to translate
excellent point, this is why there are over 10 whole translated ps1 games on romhacking.net
it's like you literally wrote every single cope posted in this thread as a nice little cherry on top for it. this is fucking cringe so i'm going to repost this from the long-forgotten era of /vr/ (remember when this board was a haven for RETRO GAMES fans? not normalfaggots crawing about fucking gta and halo?) so there can at least be some value to this shithole thread. fuck all of you

>> No.9523218

>>9522861
Romhacking.net isn't the only website
Go on CDRomance and you will probably find all the games in that pic translated to English. Or you know, you could also make a disingenuous argument

>> No.9523219
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>>9517203
There are hundreds of pretty big JRPGs we never got in the West from that time.

Shachou Eiyuuden is a turn-based wuxia RPG based on the famous Condor Heroes books. It features extensive Chinese voice acting from Hong Kong stars, and has a high-flying rock-paper-scissors based combat system and is full of drama and minigames.

>> No.9523254

>>9523218
>The Firemen 2
no
>Forget Me Not
no
>Racing Lagoon
patched only just last year
>Jingle Cats
no
>hyper crazy climber
no
>boku no natsuyasumi
no
>pop'n tanks
no
>fuuraiki
no
>rakugaki showtime
no
>london seirei tanteidan
no
>magical drop f
no
>yuuyami doori tankentai
no
>korokoro post nin
no
>little ralph
no
>bakusou dekotora
no
>suzu monogatari
no
>ore no ryouri
no
>silver case
official ports in recent years
>finger flashing
yes
>time bokan
no
>kyuin
no
There's a few more on that list that I didn't bother looking up because I think my point's pretty much been made, and additionally there are a TON more obvious picks that aren't on that pic's list. Maybe you should stop huffing your own farts and assuming everything's been translated, if you were into japanese retro games at all you'd know that anything newer than SNES is slim pickings.

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>>9523219
Linda Cube Again and Linda Cube Kanzenban are fifth gen remakes of the PC Engine CD title Linda Cube. A "psycho thriller and hunting RPG," protagonist Ken Challenger is chosen, along with his slightly crazy but devoted tomboy girlfriend Linda, to collect one male and one female of every species of animal on the planet of Neo-Kenya and upload them into a massive space ark before a giant meteorite destroys the planet and everything left on it in seven in-game years. As time passes, the weather and seasons change, and various animals and NPCs will only come out during certain conditions. The game features several novel systems, including dog party members which cannot be directly controlled. It also features three unique story scenarios which represent adjoined worlds and excellent art design from Japanese artist Cannabis. The first two scenarios are very violent and dramatic and the third is a joke scenario where everyone gets a happy ending.

>> No.9523319

>>9522861
>completely ignores the last two sentences of the post
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, I see.

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>>9523268
Daikoukai Jidai 2 AKA Uncharted Waters: New Horizons, is a fifth gen remake of the cult classic Koei game, a pseudo-historical swashbuckling RPG which takes place during the Age of Exploration. Players can choose to play one of 6 different protagonists which feature different gameplay styles and intertwining storylines. The game has updated graphics and sound compared to the original console releases, which were also sadly censored when initially released in the West. It has an excellent score by Yoko Kanno and an unprecedented amount of freedom in how you approach playing the game, where the world map is a map of the original world.

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>>9523320
Daikoukai Jidai Gaiden is a direct sequel/spinoff to Uncharted Waters: New Horizons. It only features two protagonists, allegedly so that they could go further in-depth with the storylines. It features extensive cameos from the original cast. One of the protagonists, Salvador, is the son of Khayr Ad-Din, AKA Redbeard, king of the corsairs and a major antagonist in the first game. His storyline gets much darker than those of the six protagonists in part two. The game features updated an updated tide and weather system which is meant to be more accurate than the previous game. Islamic regions will also not let you pray in their churches anymore, and Chinese ports are closed off to outsiders in an attempt to be more historically accurate. The coverart is by some famous furfag.

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>>9523328
Nemuru Mayu AKA Sleeping Cocoon is a dark acid trip-style dungeon crawling RPG with rhythm game spellcasting.

>> No.9523345

>>9523319
yeah because nothing fucking screams "fun!" to me like looking back and forth between a script in your browser window and the game you're trying to have fun with, right? you fucking retard.

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>>9523337
Cyber Doll is a yellow label (soft 18+) RPG for the Sega Saturn. Humans begin to fall apart and are forced to become cyborgs if they want to live. The game features cyberpunk imagery and an excellent soundtrack. The novel combat system features targeted combat where you can shoot out various parts of your cyborg foes, as well as a distance system where different weapons can only be used at certain distances. It features designs by Yasushi Nirasawa, famous for his work on Kamen Rider.

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>>9523367
Azure Dreams, a monster-training mystery dungeon with dating sim elements, was released in the West and is still well-loved today. Unfortunately, the extensive and excellent voice acting in the original release was scrapped on the way over. Currently, the only way to listen to this voice acting is to play the original Japanese version.

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>>9523392
Meremanoid is an RPG about mermaids in an underwater mermaid kingdom. It features unique underwater mermaid aesthetics and mermaid navigation.

>> No.9523445
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>>9523409
Wolkenkratzer is a 3D fighting rogue-lite game. A unique idea that has not been explored much since, you climb a tower fighting a random enemy from a certain tier on each floor. Before you open each floor door, the game gives you clues as to what monster awaits you, and you can change your equipment accordingly. After you defeat each enemy, you can search the floor for loot, although there is a chance you will have to fight another enemy instead of successfully finding anything.

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>>9523445
Drihoo is a Japan-only original X-box game which is essentially a dwarf simulator. You get to be crotchety and short, drink beer, and drill underground to find ruins and explore them. Even the X-box has untranslated Japanese games.

>> No.9523519

>>9523219
The Chinese are a vile race, a lowly race. Why would I be interested in some "wuxia" shit
>>9523345
Oh, cause visual novels and random encounter turn based JRPG's are more fun than Tony Hawk, which is in English?

>> No.9523604

>>9523492
>掘る・殴る・オヤジ。
>dig, punch, old man
good tagline

>> No.9523615

>>9523492
In the time it took you to write that you could have searched up "Drihoo English patch"

>> No.9523624
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>>9523615
Seems pretty half-assed if this is the latest patch. It's cool there's a less Japanese option though.

>> No.9523805

>>9523624
TransLation, dont waste your time, instead play it without reading, straight to no language fuck language

>> No.9523808

>>9522413
This gown/corset joke has been recycled for decades and it has never been funny.

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>>9517226

>> No.9523997
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>>9523328
>>9523337
Patrician's choice.

I'll throw Germs: Nerawareta Machi in there as well.

>> No.9524114

>>9515483
Princess Crown's whole script is already in English, but if you just play the game itself, then you realize why no one has bothered to hack that translation in. It's a shittier version of Odin Sphere, which is a shittier version of Dragon's Crown. It's just not worth the effort when its spiritual successors invalidate its existence.

>> No.9524124

>>9524114
>It's a shittier version of Odin Sphere, which is a shittier version of Dragon's Crown
please don't ever post again

>> No.9524753

>>9523615
>check description
>"this patch was made with google translate and deepL :)!"
LOL

>> No.9524760

>>9523997
Every english article I've read on this game says that it doesn't have an ending, but is that really true? It seems to have a storyline and events you can trigger. It'd be weird if it doesn't have anything like an ending. Anyone more familiar with it know?

>> No.9525082

>>9523997
Ironically it got translated already, in spanish

>> No.9525236

>>9517494
Oh shit, is that cover by Amano?

>> No.9525245

>>9524760
It has an ending, it just keeps going because it's an open world immersive sim. There's a high chance whoever wrote those articles doesn't know a lick of japanese since they clearly doesn't understand the significance of defeating the final boss.

>> No.9525256

>>9525245
It seems nonlinear enough that I'd be surprised if any of them even managed to reach that point(?) and if the game doesn't roll credits then yeah, that'd definitely be the case. I'm pretty interested in trying it out, I played a bit years ago and now my moon is better.

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>>9525236
Dude, every single enemy sprite is a drawing by Amano. The whole game is drop dead gorgeous

>> No.9525758

>>9517494
Looking into it a bit, this series apparently had seven(!!) games and they were released on an insane schedule at once every TWO months starting in October 10, 2000 and ending on the same day: October 10, 2001. Each one must be incredibly short. Worth looking into, probably.

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>>9515483

>> No.9525779

>>9524753
i know its funny and all because were on 4chan but i appreciate teh romhackers that say it openly

>> No.9525783

>>9525779
It's better than the ones that pretend that's not what they're doing (even this board had a guy a few years back who ended up getting outed as literally just making every single thing up for his pc 98 translations) but it makes the person who brings said translation up as a "gotcha" look like a fucking moron, so I'll gladly point it out.

>> No.9525790

Use a speed reading technique:
>transcribe 1 message box, OCR 2
Surprised how much context you can infer from just reading one third of dialogue.

>> No.9525801

>>9525783
>a guy a few years back who ended up getting outed as literally just making every single thing up for his pc 98 translations
I think I remember that guy now. Shat out translations suspiciously fast, and had a patreon too

>> No.9526407

>>9520691
Nobody has an answer

>> No.9526460

>>9526407
There aren't many (any?) jp-only RTS games, GTA clones, or FPS games, so there's not much to say.

>> No.9526598

>>9518762
Very recently too

>> No.9526631

>>9526460
I believe there are a few 90s pc/mac japan only rts titles, but il be damned if i know their names. Definitely recall seeing some stuff though from deep dives looking for obscure pc titles.

>> No.9526774

>>9523320
this needs a translation

>> No.9526907

>>9516530
moorhuhn

>> No.9527651

>>9525259
Holy hell, that's awesome!

>> No.9528179
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Quo Vadis 2 is a single-player mecha RTS with individually named characters with their own voice acting and animated communication-window faces. It has permadeath and around 40 replacement characters that get called in to fill slots if you lose people.
The character designs are by Haruhiko Mikimoto of Macross fame and your ex-girlfriend is voiced by Megumi Hayashibara.

>> No.9528181
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>>9528179

>> No.9528265

>>9528179
Looks fucking sick.

>> No.9529840
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>>9523409
And it's not the only Mermaid theme RPG on the PS1... Mark of the Mermaid is a horror themed one.

>> No.9530986

>>9515483
how text heavy is it? it looks cool but i dont know that much jap. I can sorta figure vns out with a dictionary

>> No.9531232

>>9529840
>Lovecraft-inspired TRPG
One day I'll get around to giving it a go

>> No.9533412

>Looks like the thread is reaching its end.
Thanks for the recs folks, and have a happy new year. My resolution is to play more japanese games that's for sure.

>> No.9533909

>>9515483
This is it, bros. This is the fucking year I actually start learning Japanese (and French). I don't give a shit how long it takes, I'm just up for the journey.
We're all going to FUCKING make it.

>> No.9533993

>>9533909
FUCKING SAME. I DON'T GIVE A FUCK HOW HARD IT IS, I AM DOING THIS SHIT, NO MATTER WHAT.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

>> No.9534065

>>9519013
>The cast majority of foreigners who live in Japan don't know the language
this is true and we all look down on them.
t. fluent

>> No.9534078

I didn't read a single post in this thread that didn't include title art or a game population image and enjoyed it a lot.

>> No.9534083

>>9534078
But you read this post, fruitcake

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idk but I want to play it fuck you

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>> No.9535654

>>9515483
Patlabor for PC-98
That jap "Sim City" for PC-98 and other strategy games.
Sakura Wars II-III-IV and the rougelike for NDS.
You're Under Arrest visual novel for Saturn or Dreamcast (I don't remember)
Doukyuusei / Dragon Knight /
That Alicesoft eroge with space Adolf Hitler idol.
Some eroges from MINK like Dangel and Shaburi no Hime.


Obviously, Panty-Chan the 600 Year Old Dragon's Incestual Statutory Rape Adventures in Another World for PC-98, not the ugly remake for PC with upscaled images and Panty-Chan dubbed by that JAV actress.

(Well, so Quo Vadis seems interesting)

>>9533909
Based Anon.

>> No.9536012

>>9515526
Giga retardo

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>>9535654
>space adolf hitler idol

Wat

>> No.9536153

>>9517937
>It's just like a real translator in that it makes shit up when it doesn't know the answer.

Fucking kek

>> No.9536248

>>9536141
Space Adolf Hitler is worth learning japanese for. Noob.

>> No.9536340

>>9516460
why is it impossible to translate?

>> No.9536353

I've been studying Japanese for like a month and a half, I've memorized most of the characters, but Kanji still really intimidates me, what's the best way to learn it?

>> No.9536412

>>9536353
Best way is to simply bite the bullet and do RTK in a 100 days so you can start learning vocab like a regular language. You will also have passed the biggest of the hurdles, as well as proven that you have the discipline and routine to actually get anywhere with the language.

>> No.9536415

>>9536353
don't learn individual kanji. on their own they really don't mean much and you're wasting time when you could just be learning words.

>> No.9536504

>>9536353
Best way is to learn the kanji in context of actual sentences. Different methods work for different people. I find that engaging with Japanese material and making flashcards using the instance the kanji is first encountered is a good method.

>> No.9536519
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>>9535592
The startup screen says it's only possible to play it in Japan but I played it in Texas and it worked just fine!

>> No.9536534

>>9517441
>Comes on retro board
>complains about people preferring retro games
Enjoy your shiny generic movie games filled with POCs and Gays I guess

>> No.9536539

why are japs the most soulful people on the planet

>> No.9536551

>>9536539
Language barrier minimizes American cultural influence

>> No.9537037

>>9536353
Best way is whatever works for you to achieve, whatever your goals are, and how much effort you're willing to put in to achieve them. There are many ways that are very different.
I learned many decades ago at school using very traditional western methods. As a result I know far more technically about the characters than even most well educated Japanese or Chinese people. But very little of that helps me play a Japanese video game. I know other people who can't write and can barely use a dictionary but get by fine playing games because they just memorized pictures.

>> No.9537041

>>9536519
Texas is in Japan retard

>> No.9537094

>>9517494
Looking in on a let's play, it seems the story does indeed reach its conclusion in the final released game, Volume 7. Just in case anyone was considering playing it but not sure whether to invest time in a game that might or might not be completed.

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>>9537037
>>9536353
>I know other people who can't write and can barely use a dictionary but get by fine playing games because they just memorized pictures
"Learning kanji" is unnecessary unless you want or need to be able to write. Just repeatedly expose yourself to the characters through reading, and then over time if you find yourself having trouble recognizing a specific character, THEN you can study it invididually, but studying them all in bulk before you even know any words is honestly stupid and probably 95% of the reason that people usually burn out trying to learn this language.

>> No.9537119

The trick, like with any language, is to form mental associations through context.

When you scan a block of english text, you don't really read one letter at a time, then form words in your head and combine them into sentences on the go. Instead you recognize entire blocks, segments, sections and absorb and think about it on the go.
Same thing with japanese. The goal is to immediately recognize words as you scan the text, and even entire sentences or word-groups etc..

Kanji works the same way. After you encounter the same kanji over and over in the same sentence situations you will no longer be "interpreting" it but rather your brain will just instantly recognize the information it conveys as you move on.

Japanese tends to be easy in that regard since their "regular" sentences and phrases are extremely repetitive and terse.

>> No.9537241

>>9537119
tl;dr the trick is to read more
people who fail at language learning are people who avoid reading.
it sucks for Japanese/Chinese at first if you don't have prior Kanji knowledge, but the faster you can start reading, the better.
And the more you can read, the better. Someone who reads 100 pages a day of a language literally cannot stay bad at it for long, as language learning is 100% input.

>> No.9538289

>>9537041
No, it's not retard

>> No.9539423
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>>9536340
It's not, unless its something stupid like the text is hardcoded to the scenes or something. It would be difficult to localize because of all of the esoteric jokes and having to understand how Japanese people saw/treated SEGA. Plus, there are parody games that you can make that would absolutely get you in trouble in the states.