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FFIX

Didn't you ask this last month

>>9505902
Didn't know Square Enix were flat earthers

>>9505902
There's nothing "stunning" about this image.

>>9505896
I heard 22-4-75. That's my birthday.

>>9505896
There aren't any. They all look like shit from the retarded texture warping. Arcade games from the same time already looked a generation ahead. There was never a moment when PS1 was good or impressive in its lifespan.

>>9505929
Why even post in this thread if you don't appreciate the beauty of primitive 3D?

>>9505954
Obviously to amuse himself. Lord knows we aren't.

>>9505896
SOTN, Rayman, Megaman x4, anything 2D really including the arcade ports

>>9505969
>megashit x4
>not mm8
if it does one thing right then graphics

>>9505896
Vagrant Story, Shadow Tower, Rage Racer and RRType 4 are my favorites. But there's a ton that look great. Remeber to not filter textures and not increase the resolution though. Blown up at modern resolutions destroys the art style of PSX games.

>>9505896
quake 2, rayman2 or driver 1 and 2

>>9506024
Well, if you insist.

>>9505896
>Spyro
LOL

>>9506153
Yup. Threads of Fate is another one that comes to mind.

>>9505929
There are ps1 that still hold up today. Crash bandicoot 3 for example is stunning, and looks far better than most modern games.

>>9505905
Unironically this.

>>9506153
>cutscene
this game just consists of tiny puzzle rooms and they are all brown. spyro is easily more impressive

>>9506153
This doesn't even look good. Would have been more impressive if you posted a parappa gif.

mizzurna falls is the most impressive one to me albeit not necesserarily for the visuals

>>9505929
>Arcade games from the same time already looked a generation ahead.
Always did

Albeit blocky, the Syphon Filter games always impressed me for the level of detail and the scope. Nearly every map looks different and has a different feel to it.

I found it interesting that Spiderman had a plot point that one of the villains released gas into the city to explain the fog below all the buildings

>>9507047
N64 version is the same just without cut scene cinematics.

>>9506178
>Crash bandicoot 3 for example is stunning, and looks far better than most modern games.
Modern games are absolutely fucking terrible, but you are deluded beyond comprehension. Post at least one example of what you mean.

Tobal 2
https://youtu.be/8ePJmr-COEQ
512x480, 60fps

Crash Bandicoot 1 man how has nobody posted that yet?

Like let alone the fact that it still looks pretty good visually, people thought it was fake in 1996. Sony execs literally flew the devs out with alpha builds of the game to prove that it was actually a game and they weren't just bullshitting around.

i never found any ps1 game "stunning" other than soulblade and its 3d stages. it even had grass.

>>9507164
30 fps game.
Tobal 2, Tekken 3, Bloody Roar 2 are all better in motion. BR2 also has 3d stages.

obviously, all the crash bandicoot games
obligatory ridge racer type 4
real shit:
road rash jailbreak
need for speed high stakes
vigilante 8 series
destruction derby raw
f1 99-01

>>9507242
High Stakes does impressive stuff for a 5th gen console racer but the performance is very unstable. I prefer polished "less is more" approach of RRT4.

>>9505896
Personally I think Silent Hill 1 looks fucking great.

Which Spyro game is the best tho?

>>9507541
I can't decide - all 3 are great. They're the only games that I play through once per year. I really appreciate the pacing (give one or two sections per game, but they're so small that I don't really care).

>>9507789
I guess I should give some sort of 'real' answer. I'll say Year of the Dragon is my favorite. I like having all of Spyro's moves in the entirety of the game (minus ice breath) and it always seemed more engaging than the first game.

I was kinda disappointed when I realized PS1 has nothing even close to N64 games like Banjo-Tooie. Doesn't even feel like N64 was the same generation

>>9507087
Strange to think that franchise evolved into a multiplayer battle thing.

>>9507796
Is it a problem to start with 2? Or best to play them in order?
I have no idea how closely related they are story wise, or just seperate games

>>9507797
You mean collecting a bunch of crap? Spyro was fairly underwhelming as well since a lot of progress was just collecting a bunch of crap.

>>9507862
why is collecting stuff worse than clearing levels

>>9507862
Not the gameplay. I mean the huge beautiful open worlds. Like in Banjo-Kazooie when you fly to the top of Treasure Trove Cove and you can still see the whole world beneath you, and you can fall back down with no transition or loading screen or anything.

>>9507890
>beautiful
>N64

>>9507878
Because you aren't lingering around wasting time over turning rocks to find a bunch of trinkets. I just want to run across the bridge and jump over the gap. Getting to the bridge for the first time then thinking "wait let me shift the camera to behind me" and see hidden trinkets breaks the flow of the game.
>Then don't colle-
That's pretty much saying don't play these games, which I agree with. I found more enjoyment with the first Crash game than Spyro. None the less waddling around in BK or D64s levels to collect doodads or go to the next amusement area isn't thrilling.

>>9507890
How about Ape Escape levels set in the past?

>>9507890
>Treasure Trove Cove
Isn't this just a small island? Jumping Flash 2 has bigger open levels.pjj8wy

>>9507890
Wanna go there, huh?

>>9507895
Is this not beautiful?

>>9507853
The plot hardly matters in these games. I'd recommend playing them in order because the sequels add features and general improvements that might feel odd going backwards.

>>9508021
It's fine, just not that big

>>9507047
I love how every retro game just came to the idea that Spider-Man's idle pose should be over-exaggerated and now he just stands there. I miss when he felt like a real super hero.

>>9505896
>Megaman Legends
>Fear Effect
>Hokuto no Ken
>Dr. Slump
>Tail Concerto
>Slap Happy Rhythm Busters
I love cel-shading.

>>9505896
I would say Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, and Silent Hill. Very atmospheric, gritty, good use of lighting, open environments, impressive cutscenes, character models, etc. FFVII specifically has impressive use of FMV and pre-rendered backgrounds. All three have very impressive camera work/scene composition as well.

>>9508431
FFVII still looks superior to its remake as well. They really screwed the pooch with the aesthetics. No longer does it have that dark, atmospheric look to it.

>>9505896
Chrono Cross is definitely towards the top of the list

>>9505929
>Arcade games from the same time already looked a generation ahead
You mean hardware ranging in the thousands of dollars produced better looking games than a 300 dollar console? Fuckin' crazy man.

>>9508434
>tfw the entire point of the heroes seeing the sun rise for the first time as they escape Midgar and Shinra is lost in the remake when somehow sunlight gets to the slums, defeating the purpose of the city's metaphorical design

>>9507853
If you play them out of order, you'll miss out on some neato lore easter eggs. However, they're so unintrusive and insignificant that it doesn't matter. I started with 2 and played it alongside 3. I didn't feel like I missed out on anything.

>>9507853
Order doesn't matter really since these games have no overarching plot and mostly play the same, but since it doesn't matter there's no reason to not just play them in order.

2 and 3 control a lot better than 1 does however, that's the only thing I'd really consider. Playing 1 after any of the other games is rough.

>>9506153
Cool art direction bro, now show free camera in large open maps with infinite draw distance

did any game other than spyro and racing games have no fog?

A lot of PS1 2D games visuals are still stunning

>>9505896
Squaresoft and Capcom games with pre-rendered backgrounds.
As far as full 3D, nothing comes to mind immediately, I'll think about it.

>>9510375
And for 3D aside from games with prerendered backgrounds like the Final Fantasy games, Tekken 3, Parasite Eve and what have you these are the most impressive graphics that i can think of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1cPWhtdNAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMPRP9LlmXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH8dvRzOolA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKBJ8zSEGbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzYQBmKX_5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PWL2T1Qu88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0hws5olh-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4I0l4o65JQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcSmu4jjmys

>>9507974
God, I remember seeing that effect for the first tie and thinking I was losing my mind.

>>9507253
Agreed.
>>9505896
Spyro
Silent Hill
Quake 2
FF9
Wild 9 was impressive to me as a kid, but I haven't played it in ages.
Most fighting games.
I always hear Vagrant Story but I never played it.

>>9510398
And i could i forget the Hokuto no Ken game, say what you want about Bandai but when they made games they really splurged the budget on graphics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9XxoeucLg

I think the PSX really shines with 2D sprites in games like Grandia, Breath of Fire 3/4, and Legend of Mana.

>>9508431
>>9508434
Aren't FFVII environments just flat renders with 3D planes of movement, similar to Resident Evil?

>>9511410
Yes. I literally explained that in one of the posts you're replying to, anon.

>>9511410
Sorry, I just come here to look at the pictures.

>>9511484
replying to >>9511472

>>9505896
>>9505902
Maybe I just got old but the PS1-3 all seemed so awesome and unique in so many ways. The MIPS processor in the PS1, the Emotion Engine in the PS2, and the Cell in the PS3 were all such cool under the hood specs. And the games were squeezing every ounce of life out of those damn things. Look at MGS4 on the PS3 and think about that shit being done on 256MB of RAM, or even Uncharted 2.

Jump to the PS4 and PS5 and there is nothing unique about those architechtures. They are all PCs in a box. All AMD APU setups special designed for their use case, but still an X86 box.

>>9505929
>Arcade games from the same time looked a generation ahead
Back to /v/, Zoomer

>>9505929
Daytona USA was released the same year as the PSX and it looks like a game on the system.

>>9505896
Ace Combat 3.

>>9505896
I started the original spyro for the first time, about 1 hour in and it is impressive what the psx is doing.
I am struggling with the camera tho, not feeling great and even giving me a very slight motion sickness feeling? Can't quite put my finger on it.

Did a quick boot of spyro 2 and that feels a ton better.
I'm thinking about dropping Spyro 1 and just proceed with 2 instead.

>>9510375
what game?

>>9512465
lol

>>9505896
Technically? The most impressive ones are definitely racing games, Ridge Racer and Gran Turismo. Crash Bandicoot 3 also pushed the system to its limits.

>>9512589
Harmful Park

Brightis

Oddworld has beautifully detailed backgrounds and wonderful atmosphere. Easily one of the prettiest games on the system. Great lighting, solid sprite work, and awesome art style. And even the music compliments the visuals very nicely, really sets the mood. One of my favorite games of all time.

PS1 games look beautiful

>>9512738
Thanks, I had no idea of this.

I have three days to myself over Christmas. What PS1 game should I play?

I really like that era of platformers but I think I've gone through most of the well known ones. If there's any Christmas / winter-y games too that'd be a plus

>>9512790
>>9513634
How deep is this console's library? I love it so much, thank god for emulation.

>>9507862
The nice thing about Spyro is that you never need to revisit a level. You can 100% it the first time through. That alone makes it feel quite different from other collectathons.

>>9512747
Wish this was translated.

>>9505896
Saga Frontier 2, it looks like an animated painting.

>>9505929
I'm curious: can zoomers absolutely not stand PS1 texture warping?

>>9514306
Im not that in tune with zoomer gaymers, but it seems like "PS1 style" games (especially horror ones) have been in vogue for a little while. And those usually have texture warping, even in ridiculously exaggerated form.
That's the indie game crowd though, the average teen that plays battle royales and AAA probably couldnt stand it.

>>9505896

Vagrant Story

>>9505896
Metal Gear Solid, its art style is yniwu

>>9514562
You know it when up

>>9514567
know starts with a k

>>9512790
>The one time the Gran Turismo people made an on-rails mech shooter

>>9514381
The newest pokemon also had texture warping, so maybe they're just trolling.

>>9507939
I love Ape Escape, but they can't even be considered levels, they're fucking tiny.

>>9511868
GTA 5 was created for 256MB of RAM yet the PC version will chug even with 8GB

>>9515908
There is not a single person on this planet that thinks the newest pokemon is a good bar for anything.

>>9507974
this game also has a warp room effect where you can see the other side connecting to another area,the only other games i know that do this are on unreal engine(namely unreal 1 and ut) and portal but they're pc games

>>9505896

>>9505896
Tekken 3 is commonly cited as one of the most demanding games on the platform, and for me personally Omega Boost has some very impressive particle effects for its time. For 2D games there was a very nice animated infographic here on /vr/ that showed off some of the nicer ones.

>>9514030
>Literally over four thousand games
>Combined support of Namco, Capcom, Square, Taito, Konami, western devs, and obscure Japanese devs
I'm convinced the PS1 rabbit hole/iceberg never ends

>>9517917
My estimates put it around 500 good games, and around 700 worth trying. (So about 200 flawed or novel but not great or ymmv games.) I've done a lot of the sniffing around the library but I still bump into new titles every few weeks.

Gamera 2000 looks pretty great and also runs quite fast aside from a few slowdowns here and there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rruneFySeKY
>>9517915
Tekken 3 was pretty much arcade perfect aside from the backgrounds being static pictures

>>9516776
You'd be surprised. And dismayed.

Gran Turismo 2 and it's not even close

wipeout 3, the graphics are so clean.
>hi rez
>smooth frame rate
>texture warping taken care of
>colour pallete is great

its indiana jones n64 level of optimization

>>9507253
This game had a insane amount of detail to it, with the fog and dynamic ligthing and shit, they did it all to add to the inmersion

colony wars is a visual treat, additive blending and nice visual effects, smooth performance and hectic action makes it feel satisfying.

>>9518096
great game (gt1 is better) but i don't think it has top graphics. tracks are rather bland and cars are too shiny. some parts are pretty though, like night tracks.

>>9505896
racing lagoon is very, VERY pretty
those japan only train arcade cabinet ports are pretty sexy too

>>9505912
This is 4channel.

>>9517956
>Tekken 3 was pretty much arcade perfect aside from the backgrounds being static pictures
There are some other downgrades, like lower resolution (512x480 arcade, 384x480 ps1), lower res special effects and removal of separately modelled fingers on characters (though these appear in Enbu intro, so the models are there, just not used during regular gameplay), but the port makes up for it with proper Anna Williams moveset and far superior soundtrack.
The most impressive thing about Tekken 3, and the thing that almost made the port impossible until Namco came up with a bespoke compression solution, is the amount of mocap animation. It was the thing that Tekken 3 had over Virtua Fighter 3 in arcades, despite being graphically and technically inferior. It's the same thing that made Tekken 3 superior on home consoles. Like look at static Dead or Alive or Kensei shots from the same period. Both have better resolution and smoother lighting than Tekken 3 but in motion they are not in the same league.

>>9520884
I remember hearing that name before, wasn't it translated recently?

>>9521295
It was. The games looks sick by the ps1 standards.

>>9518168
>smooth framerate
>mfw the special edition is 25fps locked cuz PAL

>>9520884
too bad that it's a boring repetitive slog and the district in the video is one of 3(or 4?) enviroments in the entire game. Maybe it's me not being an RPG fan but god was it a crawl.

>>9507797
Well the N64 came out 2 years after the PS1 and obviously was designed with more RAM and CPU. Most people count the PS1/Saturn/N64 as the same generation for simplicity, but the N64 is technically several steps ahead for real-time 3D rendering. That being said, PS1 and Saturn having the advantages of CDs kinda evens it out a little.

>>9522109
This is an unreleased game running on emulation without bottlenecks though.

>>9505902
I would downvote this

>>9506101
Ahh, time to game like a retard

>>9507253
The first three SH games aged like wine visually. Even if their graphics are outdated their art direction puts them above even modern releases despite using an "realistic" artstyle.

>>9512465
It absolutely does not look like a PSX game

>>9506153
At least post a more interesting gif.

>>9510367
The draw distance on the PSX was absolutely abysmal, especially in games that weren't very optimized for the system. Racing games suffered a lot because of this and sidestepped it by always having you race through constant turns.