/vr/ - Retro Games

>I really just want to turn this into a Famicom by soldering a cartridge slot and controller ports to it, and I know its possible, but don't know how.

This might be helpful:
http://www.instructables.com/id/NES-in-a-Cartridge/
I was thinking of making on of these myself just for the hell of it

>>949863
I almost got one of these before, they seemed fairly cool.

I wonder why they thought having 2 separate types of controllers would be a good idea.

>>949907
>using arduino

Theres gotta be a simpler way to do it.
I don't think Benhecks first NOAC project was that complicated.

Anyway, there is what looks to be where a 60-pin Famicom cartridge slot would be on here. However, its covered up by this plastic thats part of the bottom half of the controller. I'm hoping the slot is still under this, but I have yet to open it up to check because I can't find a small enough phillips head screwdriver to take the whole thing apart right now. The smallest screwdriver I have cannot reach down to the top two screws.

Compared to a 72-pin NES cartridge, size seems about right.
Cart may look larger in this pic because perspective.

>>949924
>I wonder why they thought having 2 separate types of controllers would be a good idea.

Same here. Its kinda a pain, but they were just out to make money.
Surprisingly, there is an informative Wikipedia article on this specific famiclone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Player_Super_Joy_III


The first 40 some-odd games are unique, but the rest are copies with strange chinglish names. Some of them are hilarious.

I'm glad I got this thing, actually. I'm sure it once made some Chinese, Brazilian, or Eastern Bloc kid really happy.

Huh.
Well, shit.

So I re-read that Wikipedia article and see "(May require trimming of the case plastic to allow cartridge insertion)".

>get knife
>pry off plastic
>see PCB
>take out PCB, see globbed over ROM, assume its the bootleg cart
>see glorious Famicom slot

Fuck yeah, time to import Attack Animal Gakuen and get a Honeybee converter for my NES carts.
Now to just find a way to replace controller. I'm sure its just a matter of re-wiring shit. Could probably figure out once I open it.

>>949953
I've got one of these too but I'll probably never use it. If I want to play Famicom games I'll use my Gen Nex until I find the right Gyromite.

Actually, it might be fun to cram the x-in-1 pcb into my Gen Nex and use real NES controllers on it.

>>949928
>>using arduino
yeah that part seems really sloppy he's using it to interface with the controllers there's likely a better way to accomplish it though

>>949978
That pic is awesome.
This and that one Famiclone thats shaped like a penguin with the LED eyes that glow when you turn it on, would be awesome to have.

>>949978
Does the Generation NEX have better compatibility than the Super Joy?
And does it support external controllers?

>>949980
They both use DB9 controller connections instead of those weird proprietary NES ones though. The NES/SNES to Wii Cassic Controller adapters on eBay are starting to come with a converter that takes NES to Famiclone DB9 since they erroneously are actually Famiclone/SNES to Wii Classic Controller adapters. I guess Famiclone controllers are easier to come by in the land of the rising sun than legit Fami/NES ones so to them it's better that way.

>>949992
Yeah the Gen Nex is pretty okay. I dunno which has better compatibility but yes the Nex takes regular NES controllers as well as its own RF wireless controllers.

>>949996
Well its pretty easy to convert between the two as shown in this picture here.

>>950003
Yeah but you gotta cut up an NES controller extension cable.

Anybody know how the Super Joy III works with cartridges with addon chips?
Like Gimmick! for example, not that I have it. Man, I wish.

>>950020
Probably like crap. Stick a Rad Racer 2 in there and see what happens.

>>950024
you should probably avoid doing that

>>950031
Why is that?
What expansion chip does that game use anyway?
An MMC-3?

>>950038
apparently rad racer II does some sort of trickery that causes famiclones to short out and burn up

>>950049
Bizarre.
Iirc, there was some 80s computer that did something similar when a BASIC program utilized the POKE command in a certain way. Forget which computer that may have been, though.

>>950020
They work on my Famiclone, but the audio just won't play properly.

Stuff like Kirby's Adventure and Youkai Dochuuki sound way too low, you can hardly even hear 'em.

>>950065
On mine, that even happens with a few games that don't utilize fancy mappers.
Kind of expected.

>>950070
Well, stuff like this and games that use special accessories is why I bought myself an actual Famicom.

>>950084
I've seriously been considering doing that.
I already have an NES though.
Could get a converter, but still compatibility issues.

Plus, there is just something about the aesthetics of the Famicom I find so appealing.

>>950101
There's just so many great exclusives that won't play on a NES, man.

Plus the carts come in many different colors and shapes. It's something that both pleasing to look at and endlessly collectable.

>>949863
I have a Super Joy III that I got from Talize

Thing's neat, but the d-pad on controller 1 is completely fucked. It is near-broken (you need to mash it down HARD just to use the menu). You can jimmy the second controller into working with contra, but other games are basically unplayable. A real shame, but muh Contra so it works out.

>>950123
Real tempted.

Also, why the hell are American NES carts so large?
What a waste of plastic when the PCBs were actually quite small.
And theyre all grey with generic sticker covers.

>>950139
>d-pad on controller 1
I hear thats pretty common.
Mines kinda wonky, but it works.

Anyway, I'll check it out with Contra.

>>950145
No idea why they had to make 'em large, ugly gray bricks.

The fact NES cover art is so terrible most of the time keeps me away from collecting 'em.

>>950145
Yeah, Contra works fine single player with just controller 2, but other games aren't so lucky. Thing is, the D-pad feels perfectly fine. It isn't unusually depressed or tight. Is there any sort of fix for it

>>950150
You could try opening it up.
Often the D-pad just gets unseated from its original position.

>>950145
>Also, why the hell are American NES carts so large?
As every foreigner knows, everything is big in America. That's why you're all fat.

>>950159
Heh.
I'm 5'8", 115lbs

>>950149
>>950145
they made them larger to make them easier to pull out of the console, the NES was purposely made to look like a VCR because Nintendo wanted to distance itself from the video game market after the crash

>>950167
Wow, that didn't occur to me.
Makes sense.

>>950170
The NES was even going to be bundled with a keyboard, and had a somewhat Commodore 64-like appearance at one point.

>>950123
>There's just so many great exclusives that won't play on a NES, man.
lolwut?

>>950123
iirc, Famicom carts are 100% compatible with NES systems except for a few games that won't play their full musical score without a $1 hardware mod that doesn't require even opening the console.

>>950505
>$1 hardware mod that doesn't even require opening the console.

And what might that be?

I've been wanting to post pics of one of my recent purchases, but I lost my camera's charger. Maybe next thread

>>950167
>the NES was purposely made to look like a VCR
I guess it worked, because my parents and their friends would bizarrely refer to Nintendo catridges as "game tapes." Meanwhile Nintendo wanted you to call them "game paks," so I guess the vilified Atari-associated word cartridge could be avoided. Marketing is some strange shit, especially when it's effective.

So did anyone here actually live in a country where you had a Famiclone as console? Dendy folks included. Any stories about your experience playing them?

Pirates are the best.

>>950618

I had very convincing NES-clone in the 90-ties (Balkans). 2-3 year before PlayStation made landfall in Europe. I could also run the bootleg cartiges. Shit was cool. I liked to grind the fuck out of contra and duckhunt, while dad played Mario Bros 1.

>>950806

How does that famicom mario kart play?

>>950540
And you also need to connect pin 3 to 40 in the expansion port on the NES. I can post a pic of that too if you want.

I think this is my favourite Famicom clone, I believe that the Dynavision series had 5 or 6 versions. It has two cartridge slots for 60 and 72 pin and his joystick has an earphone in like on the first Sega Genesis console. Also, it's a really tough game console, most of them are still working since 80's.

>>950806
>RECCA and Gimmick bootleg

Nice! I'm almost certain I owned a RECCA bootleg cart too (which looked different than the one in your pic) but either I lost it or it's still somewhere collecting dust in my parent's attic. That or I dreamt of it all along...

Pic is the bootlegs I have.
-4 in 1 with Darkwing Duck, Chip'n'Dales 2, Talespin. I don't even remember what the 4th one is, it's a topdown shooter playing as a soldier, it's titled "GETOUT" but that's not the actual name of the original game
-Journey To Silius bootleg cart
- and the NES cart is a rare romhack of Journey To Silius called Anarchy Edition which was only ever released on cart and only around 15-20 copies of it were made (as you can see i'm a total sucker for this game, i also have its officila famicom version and NTSC-U versions CIB)

>>951469
It's not even mariokart sadly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hjGpg5tcL8

>>951551
The the NES eventually have an official Brazilian launch?

>>951857

I think that's even better!

>>950145
>>950149
>>950167
>>950567
>>950170
>>950185
Here is what the NES, or AVS (Advanced Video System) almost was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEA2ePG8m-4

>>951857
Da fuck?!

Did not expect to see that coming.

>>951857
Woah, never heard of this, is that actually the first "smash bros" game?.

So this makes a third fighting game on NES after TMNT Tournament Fighters and Joy Mech Fight on famicom

>>950149
they made them that big to compliment the nes's vhr style design. they would be hard to get out if they weren't that big. and yes, honestly nintendo should have just made it a top loader to save plastic.

>>951956

No, the original Nes or Famicom was never officially released here, I believe that just the SNES, Gameboy and N64 actually are endorsed by Nintendo in Brazil (distributed by Playtronic-Gradiente co.).