/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9496523
it seems like the only way the devs really understood how to iterate on the basic gameplay was to come up with increasingly annoying bullshit.

>>9496523
>Too bad the gameplay was crap.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzo-

>>9496523
faggot

>>9496523
>Too bad the gameplay was crap.
You mean "too bad the devs made the game harder to combat weekend rentals, thus messing with the game's legacy!"
Looking at you Ed, you fucked with Ecco and Chakan!

Still a great game though, but could have been remembered much more fondly.

>>9496523
it badly needed analog control

why was the version for windows 95 so fucking cool?

>>9496523
The gameplay is basically metroid, it was probably just too hard for you because you skipped reading the clues that the animals give you.

>>9496678
Same with comix zone

>>9496854
the maze portion of ecco is a mostly reasonable challenge, that's not really the issue.

>>9496854
nta but the clues are cryptic as fuck. You need psychic abilities to figure that shit out.

>>9496523
As opposed to what, especially at the time?

I dare you to actually look at the genesis catalogue. Or any other console at the time. There's a good but of shit for the shovel but you don't like to think so for some reason.

>>9496523
The west could make approximately one, maybe two, good games until the 360/PS3 era.

>>9496854
Reading is for faggots.

I guess that crowdfunded spiritual successor to Ecco the dolphin never took off it’s too bad probably could be cool to look at

>>9496523
I thought it was great.

>>9497085
>you need psychic abilities to figure that shit out
Duh? That's kinda the whole point?

Glad it was made glad I played it, didn't have fun

>>9496523
Gameplay is perfect, you just need to get used to it.

>>9497526
That's a secret optional shortcut that's purposedly difficult to pull off, bro.

>>9497565
No, this is the jump you are supposed to be able to make and is perfectly doable. The other way involves a hidden passage to bypass for people who suck and can't make the jump.

>>9496523
Why are half the threads on /vr/ bait threads and zoomer takes?

>>9497526
There's another path for your skill level.

could've been legendary.

>>9497376
Found the weeb.

I hate the enemy respawning. Could have been a comfy game if they weren't obsessed with difficulty in that era. Mario 64 style water levels would have been a better fit for this game. I think it goes downhill after the saving the other dolphin levels.

>>9498331
You have to do the dolphin rescue quests, I forget which does which but both are super handy. One gives you blast sonar for killing for a distance, the other let's you permakill enemies if you double tap when charging. You'll know it works because there's a sound effect and little animation of a swirl of energy going into him.

>>9498014
Considering I have taught people here in depth how to do the jump, I'd say the opposite is true.

>>9498009
>if you don't worship every old game it's a zoomer take
I played this in 90s and the last level was game ending horseshit then same as now.

>>9496523
there was no point to be so aggressive with enemy respawning, they don't have to disappear permanently but for godsake just give a little breathing room. like playing ninja gaiden underwater.

>>9499484
See >>9498738
You get the ability to permakill enemies in the first couple levels.

Biggest issue by far, is certain puzzles needing precise positioning and Ecco loves to turn wide so you spend a good while trying to position him right and wasting air

>>9496526
I love the earlier levels, but the final dungeon is just impossi-hard for no fucking reason. No landmarks to help you, just fuck you kid.....game genie, that's what.

>>9496523
The SEGA CD soundtrack is beautiful. Sadly you are right about the gameplay, but Ecco Jr. is still okay I guess.

>>9502135
Beautiful music, but it misses the point completely.

>>9502237
Also they ran out of space and started recycling songs so you keep hearing open ocean for like the entire back half of the game.

>>9499920
never had that issue just git gud

>>9496635
>Chakan
Don't remind me, I have an apprehension for using hooks for platforming to this day because of that game.

>>9496673
Dreamcast Ecco had it, didn't help much.

>>9496523
I usually stand against gitgudders because I think their point makes little sense. But in this case, OP, it's the only thing I can really say. Git gud. And maybe learn to enjoy the gameplay for what it is.

>>9497085
Solving clues in Ecco is really part of the charm.
Me and my friend could spend weeks coming up with theories on that shit. Best time.
Although, I admit, we barely made it to the end, he wasn't really good at it and I did all the brain work for him whenever I could.

>>9496523
could not get passed the first or second level as a kid, but I always heard so much hype around it I kept giving it a shot, dumbfounded by its legacy

>>9496523
Mad cause bad

>>9499475
It’s a zoomer take when the gameplay is good and you’re a fag

>>9504234
>dumbfounded by its legacy
>dumbfounded
>dumb

Who the fuck can't pass the first two levels? even as a kid its piss easy.