/vr/ - Retro Games

i think i'm getting better with scenery

>>9465197
I swear one of those AESTHETICS retards could have built this unironically.

>>9465248
kek

Gonna hop off, but I like how everyone is taking care of their areas with scenery and filling in flat parts. Feel free to build around these other two doodoo mounds here towards the back.

>>9465197
I really really REALLY like this ride,

There were some RCT1 trains missing, I've added them to the server.

Is RT3 still the best?

>>9465785
Eh, I didn't care for Railroad Tycoon 3 all that much desu

If I built a coaster on the server could someone theme it for me?

>>9465941
To clarify- I just suck at theming and I want to learn how to get better at it and it'd be neat to observe how someone else does it... And working long hours and in weekends so don't have a lot of time to do much except for building the coaster

>>9465248
>i want to go on something more existent than Glorious People's Army

>>9465785
If this is a typo and you meant RCT3, I don't miss it all that much. Its best features (fast forward, custom objects in scenarios without fucking with the scenario editor, and eventually pools) are all in OpenRCT3 except for its staff mechanics.

>>9466125
>OpenRCT3
This is obviously a typo too.

im gonna make a mini theme park inside your park and you can't stop me

>>9466125
the only thing RCT3 has over OpenRCT2 is ride cam and a few rides.

>>9465945
I'm pretty sure this has already happened on this map

>>9466420
You seem to be forgetting a certain free-form spline-based coaster.

>>9466420
I also like the autocomplete feature. I'd love to see it in OpenRCT2 as a feature or a mod because it was nice for giving ideas on how to finish a ride.

>>9466423
>build an invisible maze as a paid entrance
>build tiny fenced off theme park inside
im thinking ludo

>>9466482
>>9466312
meant for this post

someone actually pulled off a figure-8 loop

>>9467630
Sure, if you consider 8 G's pulling it off

>>9466434
How did auto complete work? Probably wouldn't be too hard to implement as a plugin.

One day I'll get tired of turning my park into overly elaborate spectacles on how to kill the ride's passngers in the most visually appealing way possible. But it hasn't happened yet.

I quite enjoy building and decorating, lads.

>>9467973
It's not that bad.

>>9468281
>a well made recognizable gci woody in a cute style
Really, really nice anon. The lift hill looks slightly under supported, I'd add some horizontal metal beams to the support structure.

>>9468238
I don't know exactly how it works, but it would find the quickest path (that would work) to the station from wherever your current track is.

>>9468798
That should be really easy actually as long as the plugin API supports building track. Will give it a try after christmas.

>>9468817
Nice, good luck!

>>9468297
Appreciate, this is another I did. Pretty compact and thin layout for a Single rail, The Jersey Devil inspired.

>it's a "Marcel defends micro coasters" episode

>>9469317
>so called "metagamers" when they don't paint everything in exclusively dazzling colors to get a chance at the Most Dazzling Colors award for more guest spawns

>>9469317
>Is cheating cheating?

first attempt at a terrain coaster

>>9469758
I wouldn't call that a terrain coaster

Fixed Salsa de Culo just in time for the server to go down.

oh never mind its back up

>>9469989
more of a themed coaster if anything

>>9469317
sorry I know I'm supposed to be getting mad about the vomit of bullshit but what's with that giga coaster going from a cable lift straight into a booster?

>>9469271
>Wavelength
Put a kiddie coaster next to it called "Half-Wave."

>>9469317
i'm not sure how i feel about openrct2 adding lots of non-optional balance changes and content additions and so on, i think openttd went in a similar direction but i'm not as familiar with it but having an option to rebalance ride stat requirements so you can't print money with microcoasters would be neat for autists like me who lack self-control

>>9470701
>I wanna go on something different from Shuttle Loop!

>>9469317
>you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

>>9470701
I just think guest cap should increase proportionate to a ride's length up to like 300 meters. A 300+ length ride gets its full guest draw, an amount shorter gets a proportionally reduced amount of guests to the park as a mini-ride merits. It's the guest cap increase that really breaks microcoasters; as simple moneymakers they're not as massively superior to a coaster with good throughput.

But any sweeping balance changes like this would need to be an optional checkbox for me to be okay with modifying the game so heavily.

>>9470246
You're a fucking genius; I was struggling to figure out what to put next to it.

>>9470246
>not Micro-Wave

>>9470246
>>9471921
I put it across from it.

>>9471972
I like it

>>9471972
nice penis junior coaster

>>9471995
If you don't accidentally design a coaster in the shape of a penis, are you truly a Rollercoaster Tycoon player?

"Weekend" Map Download
https://files.catbox.moe/17wjts.park

>>9471995
I worry about the shape of your penis anon.

>>9466420
>OpenRCT2
That's not retro

This entire thread isn't about a retro game but a new mod

Is Zoo Tycoon 1 or 2 better?

>>9473810
>>9473813
>joyless gatekeeping retards

RCT3 is more retro than OpenRCT2

>>9473831
Close this thread

>>>/vg/

>>9473810
>>9473813
>>9473831
>>9473840
This is some extreme butthurt.
Mad that your PS3 games aren't retro yet?:

>>9473810
>>9473813
>>9473840
We got permission from mods years ago for these threads

>>9472880
will you be continuing this map for next weekend?

>>9473814
1 is better if you enjoy timeless sprite based graphics, although 2 is a very good transition to 3D. Both are worth playing.

>>9474198
We could, there's still tons of room. Though it may be time to play something fresh. Any of our mapfags got anything to report?

>>9473814
1, with expansions imho. Aquariums are cool as fuck, even though building a realistic blue whale tank is a ridiculous idea.

>>9475643
god I fucking love making aquariums in that game. Zoo Tycoon got really good expansions.

Bump

>>9464797
Aesthetic as fuck, maybe one of the greatest games made especially in its time

Post your newest woodie

>>9477204
nice bowls anon

>>9473840

>>9465197
Thanks Doc

>>9473810
No one show this anon how the Doom thread prefers to play Doom.

what are we playin this weekend

>>9479489
I've got an edited version of Idylwild Heights hosted, hopefully it doesn't crash.

>>9479675
the park so far

>>9480081
the coaster going under the path is neat

>>9480081
isn't this the map that has crashed and became unrecoverable every time its been hosted?

>>9480081
Updated,
>>9480906
Just played for several hours, and it seems re-saving the old .svx formats into the OpenRCT format might have fixed the problem.

>>9480924
>someone deleted my ride and built a new ride with the same type and color palette in its place and named it after a meme
why?

>>9480964
Thought deleting rides was an unspoken rule. What a fucktard that person was.

Hyper sisters......

>>9480973
I'm not mad about the ride being deleted or replaced really. The only thing I'm slightly upset about is the name being changed to a meme. The new ride does look much better and have slightly better stats. I've just never seen someone come out of nowhere and completely redesign someone else's ride like that.

>>9480924
>>9480980
>that first turn

>>9480980
What retard designed this?

>>9481013
Reminded me of the picture someone posted of that turn from that dreadful RCT Facebook game which got recreated. I can't remember the image now.

>>9481020
Or find the image, for that matter.

>>9481020
You mean this ride?

>Hyper sisters......
This not fag area. No fag here.

>>9481027
This one. RCT 4 Mobile.

>>9481019
You don't remember, Anon?
You did.

>>9481027
>all those flat rides with no path connection
This pisses me off more than the lack of turn banking. But you should still BANK YOUR TURNS.

>>9481027
>>9481060
>kamikaze placed so you have to cross the track of a roller coaster to get there

>>9481027
>>9481038
Why does the track look like tape?

>>9481474
because
>atari

>>9481038
>>9481027
>>9481474
man I remember when this game first came out, it was rightfully scorned and laughed at for weeks in here

>>9480906
>>9480924
yeah the hope is that the new file format fixes the crashes. So far, so good. The original file was from 2002, so the trick was re-opening it in the scenario editor, and saving it as a new scenario (with the usual set of objects we use, of course)

>>9481004
>>9480980
I thought it was the same coaster, just redesigned. Kind of like how the original scam corkscrew was redesigned into a full circuit ride, and the log flume got a makeover too.

>>9481694
It's a hell of a makeover

>>9480980
>130kmh
>medium turn
>2.21 lateral Gs
BRAVO CHRIS

>>9481020
>>9481027
>>9481038
It's fiiiiiiine

>>9481894
Yeah, that's a bald-headed lie. I did the math for shits and giggles. Built a helix stack with a station at top and bottom, took ride length for that segment over number of turns to get circumference and hence radius of curvature: 11.8m. Convert 130kph to m/s and a = v^2/r = 11.2g.

Taking a two-unit (3m) high volume of space to be a cube, a medium turn spans, square-center to square-center, 5 squares for a 15m diameter and 17.7g.

>>9481945
What are the real G's for this coaster, physicsanon?

>>9481945
yea but is banked

>>9481998
>mfw
It's till 17.7 Gs regardless of direction

>>9482014
>It's till 17.7 Gs regardless of direction
the magnitude of the G force would be that number. The component forces (lateral and positive) would be separate components of each
Obviously those forces would still be ludicrously high if your number is correct

>>9482026
>The component forces (lateral and positive) would be separate components of each
It's till 17.7 Gs regardless of direction. Feel free to split them up in any way you want.

The circular force would be split via bank between lateral and vertical as sides of a triangle - meaning the values obey the pythagorean theorem (a^2+b^2=c^2). So the more conservative/accurate figure of 11g could be softened to something like 7.5g and 8g. Still no bueno.

Synchronizing the monorails broke them, had to turn it off. Sorry anon.

Big Rigs Over The Road Racing: The Ride

>>9482989
Is it going backwards at infinite speed?

THIS MOTHERFUCKER KEEPS HITTING THE BRAKES EVERY TIME THEY FIND A HILL ON THE ALPINE COASTER AND IT IS CAUSING A BACKUP BEHIND THEM, I AM GOING TO BANISH THEM TO MERRY-GO-ROUND ISLAND, WHERE THEY CAN RIDE ALL THE PUSSY RIDES THEY WANT AND THEY ARE NEVER ALLOWED ON A ROLLER COASTER AGAIN. FUUUUCK

Best tycoon game for each genre (Zoo, rollercoaster, etc.)? I assume 2 2 2 2 2

>>9483086
Who has that video of a guy on an alpine coaster giving severe whiplash to the dipshits ahead that slammed the brakes?

>>9484020
I don't have that, but I do have this: https://youtu.be/_qCx3X2U9U4

>>9481902
>it's been almost a decade since rct4 mobile
:(

>>9484715
And then a year after that bullshit, we got THIS.
Left: Marketing material.
Right: Final result.

>a bunch of shitty fast food places right next to each other
>giant flag
>burger advertisement
>red white and blue T-shirts
>a neighborhood that is just the same house pasted over and over

truly the America Section is my favorite part of the park

I enjoy creating twisted wooden coasters.

>>9484020
>the dipshits ahead
There was a queue and the speed retard literally hit the girl last in the queue who couldn't possibly go faster. Just thinking about it makes me seethe with rage. On that note, someone should sample his autistic war cries and add them as sound effects to the game.

>>9485239
A queue of two, if I recall correctly, and they were stopped together such that both got nailed.

>>9485245
https://youtu.be/d0tf0q_9jGA?t=275
There's at least 2 people in front of the girl.

>>9484996
> >a neighborhood that is just the same house pasted over and over
That's not representative of America at all. Each house has to be slightly different from every other house in the neighborhood, so you can't prefabricate replacement parts for repairs in 15-20 years.

>>9485239
>>9485245
>>9485253
It bears mentioning that it's a family of tourists in front that are purposefully stopping to look. The analogy of people stuck in traffic is only partly valid. A small familiar group causing a holdup isn't the same as a long line of perfect strangers in gridlock but it's still clear the person in back isn't making the decision. It's autistic rage but not entirely misdirected. But of course the parents aren't going to learn dick about their oblivious fuckbaggery if they're busy comforting the child.

Weekend map download: https://files.catbox.moe/slpeue.park

>>9486082
the internal parts will all be different but the outside will be similar

>>9483234
jesus dude how many tycoon games have you played?

>>9490050
There were an ass ton of them in the wake of RCT, mostly B and C tier. Among them I remember kinda liking Ski Resort Tycoon.

>>9490061
I really liked Mall Tycoon, but it got boring after a while.

>OpenRCT2 v0.4.3 released!

>Hi everyone, we just released OpenRCT2 v0.4.3 “The Golden Age of Ballooning”!
This release is especially notable in terms of content added -the Alpine Coaster vehicle, some extra scenery, new music, and loads of new track elements (some enabled by default, some needing cheats enabled). We also made a start with a system for asset packs. All of these will be discussed in more detail in the next Last Months In OpenRCT2 post, which will hopefully be posted later this month.

>>9490673
>only boosters and outside loops for flying coaster
was hoping for new elements like the zero-g rolls or overbanks. oh well

>>9490061
I remember playing School Tycoon. That game was dull as shit.

>>9490934
Didn't that game also have a bunch of bullshit like tornados and earthquakes?

>>9490984
Probably, I can't remember playing far enough to encounter those.

>>9490747
>B&M custom elements
They'll come but the guy making them is autistic as fuck so don't expect them anytime soon.

>>9490934
>>9490984

The extremely slow passage of time in that game irritated the shit out of me. I lost patience with it before anything interesting happened.

>>9491480
at least the sprite work for the new elements we have so far is really good

>>9465248
I fucking love all the debug tools that OpenRCT2 provides.
It's the edge that blows clones like Parkitect out of the water.

>>9469317
RCT is already a piss-easy game if you know how pricing works.
People who spam rides or use micro-coasters have no excuse besides autism.

making a snow map for this weekend. any suggestions? I haven't added trees yet obviously

>>9493367
dont fucking make it Cold and Wet, i'm sick of rain

>>9464797
have you guys seen the openrct2 plugins? never see it mentioned here but they got some cool stuff

>>9493402
the scenery manger is really good because it lets me copy/paste pretty much anything. too bad the sever doesn't like it

>>9493402
I didn't even know there were plugins. Any reccommendations?

>>9493619
>benchwarmer
Automatically places benches and trashcans in a repeating pattern on all paths, and TVs on all queue paths
>park rating inspector
Lets you know what exactly's lowering your park rating
>price manager
Automatically adjusts prices for rides and shop items depending on the max amount guests will pay. Can even overcharge for umbrellas during rain.
>rain cleans vomit
Self explanatory.

>>9492742
Yeah, he's amazing. Just very autistic so if it's not possible to do anything 100% perfectly it simply won't happen.

>>9493273
Post beaten Vidya Valley. The game is only piss-easy if you completely disregard custom scenarios.

>>9493718
>vidya valley
poorly made scenarios dont exactly count

>>9493718
if you need exploits or scam coasters to win a scenario then it is a bad scenario

>>9493402
Scenery manager is a life saver.

>>9493724
>>9493726
>makes a game suitable both for casual play and min-maxing
>result: seething nerds

>>9493724
>>9493726
On a more serious note, why is it bad? The original complaint in >>9493273 is that jewcoasters are bad because the game is piss easy. Faced with a scenario that is not piss easy the scenario is suddenly badly designed.

And, even if you play by your rules, without cheesing it, the game can be quite hard. I've completed every single scenario building realistic layouts and without cheesing and Rainbow Summit took a couple of attempts.

>>9492584
If I recall I stopped playing it once I got to a certain level that seemed impossible to complete.

>>9493805
>The original complaint [...] is that jewcoasters are bad because the game is piss easy
That's not what they said, you tremendous faggot. They said difficulty isn't an excuse for using them.

RCT is a theme park simulator. They're called scam or jew coasters for a reason. The 'pay us for nothing' gag only worked for traveling shows that bilked a batch of locals and moved on to the next group of rubes. They're antithetical to the game and exist only as a consequence of tuning it to not fuck over legitimate things like small launched/shuttled coasters and family coasters. They're an exploit and make no sense outside of cheesing game systems. That's why they're bad.

>suddenly
You have advanced from tremendous faggot to egregious faggot. That isn't moving the goalposts or 'no that doesn't count!' A scenario that is not only made easier by an exploit but was designed to require an exploit is arguably badly designed. One can make the case that an unintended design consequence (an emergent exploit) can be folded into the game's design as a mechanic, but that hardly applies here. You either know it or you don't and there's no subtlety, cleverness, creativity, etc in doing it.

Now go choke on cocks somewhere else without bothering us.

that feel when cant be assed to start game again

>>9493874
>endless font of ideas in my head
>no will to build them

>>9493863
TL;DR lmao, I responded to
>RCT is already a piss-easy game if you know how pricing works
which just is not true if you play a more challenging scenario. Do you bitch and moan about custom maps in games like WC3 as well or do they somehow fit your inane orthodoxy?

>>9493874
>have three 100+ hour projects in the pipeline
>all 90% finished
>just need a little more work
>start a new project instead

>>9494208

>>9494208
>TL;DR lmao
crying_wojak_holds_smug_mask.jpg
Status: REKT
Diagnosis: BUTTFRUSTRATED

>>9493718
Went to sleep before seeing your post.

I've beaten "Final Destination".
If you don't know what FD is, it's a tiny patch of land that you don't even own and have to buy the rights to (as in, literally all tiles start off as "buyable").
There is no scenery, no stalls and no rides beyond coasters in this scenario.
You have to achieve a park value of 400,000€.

Unfortunately I don't have the save file anymore, but it wasn't *that* difficult.
I've made a post about it on this general some threads ago if you're really curious.

>>9493805
>On a more serious note, why is it bad?
There's reasonable difficulty, and then there's Vidya Valley, which was thoughtlessly designed with a goal so large that only weaponized autism was able to defeat it.

>>9494229
>>9493878
>>9493874
I'm literally waiting for multiplayer to roll around again before I start anything

here is my low-effort snow-themed map for this weekend's server.
https://files.catbox.moe/5jx6p9.park

>>9495875
This reminds me: better woodie support pieces when? Last I checked the best you could do was floating sloped fences or angled beam CSOs with regular supports underneath.

>>9495707
Nice, thanks pal. It'll be hosted momentarily. 97.69.221.186:11753

>>9496127
Please note that there is a new release of OpenRCT2, so don't forget to update before joining.

>>9496132
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I HATE UPDATES I HATE UPDATES I HATE UPDATES I HATE UPDATES I HATE UPDATES

>>9496132
>0.4.3 installed in a different location so now I have two separate installs

>>9496127
>can't connect

>>9496167
Try now. I had to fix something.

>>9496110
Honestly, I'd rather have a new set of steel supports. For woodies the vanilla supports are honestly fine, there are CSO that complement the standard supports, if you're autistic you can build cool supports with the wooden post fence and if you really want to you can do fully custom supports like this nerd.
https://www.nedesigns.com/screenshot/7757/bowl/

Something that would be really cool is if the OpenRCT2 team added footers to the existing wooden supports. It shouldn't be too hard and would really improve the look of the supports.

>>9496276
Using fences to make supports is fucking AIDS, though, which I meant to imply more strongly. All I want is a handful more dedicated pieces just like the couple that exist to cover 45-degree track and curves. With those there would be no need to get autistic. Like, in your attached image, wouldn't it be nice if there a fucking corner piece to use on the pre-drop curve instead of just a straight line from the lift hill crashing into it? Or have a tall sloped piece that can be used on a 45-degree hill? Even your linked image only gets 'autistic' by adding concrete pillar objects; there's no actual structural definition to the supports. Ideally it should be possible to make something at least alluding to pic related without tediously crafting a bunch of fucking fences.

Is there a better way to do the fences now anyway? It used to be you had to raise terrain, build, then lower terrain.

>>9496437
There are some diagonal pieces but they are not perfect.

>Is there a better way to do the fences now anyway?
You can manipulate the pieces with the Tile Inspector so there's no need to raise and lower terrain. Also, you can use the scenery manager plugin to copy and save groups of scenery so I guess you could simply build a bunch of autism tier supports and copy paste them. Although this was kinda possible with trainers back in the day as well.

>>9496460
I guess I need to hunt them down then. I feel like I might have had them once from a workbench but lost them. The one I'm using now comes with a bunch of useful building CSOs but only has the most basic stock stuff and supports and going through to add groups and pick individual pieces out of thousands is even more tedious.

>>9496437
I would love be to able to make a support system that looked like that.

>>9495875
And here's the finished thing.

>>9497523
Sensational

this is neat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G9ruU2kbVo

>>9497756
>top thrill dragster
F

>"I want to go on something more thrilling than Pleasure Wheel 1."

>>9497945
So we all know that thing is pretty much defunct, right?

It's nice to finally use alpine coasters in their native environment.

>>9499436
that is great, but please fix that mishmash of path supports/rails. it is triggering my autism

>>9499450

>>9499483

>>9499626
motion simulator 3

>>9499483
YES

>>9498910
It's supposedly being converted to an LSM launch by Zamperla.

>2 weeks
damnit, not again

OUR FORTNIGHTLY TORMENT

Whispering Cliffs fucking sucks, who thought that park needed to exist?

>>9501304
It's at least an interesting location but it's way too small, really needed a little more space.

>>9501304
just research vertical drop coasters and you'll see why the scenario was made.