/vr/ - Retro Games

played dodonpachi to test out a new arcade cabinet i built

I've been playing through the PC Engine Soldier games (Super Star Soldier, Final Soldier, Soldier Blade), but they're not really that great imo. They just feel too long, too sterile and generic, and just very low energy. Super Star Soldier in particular just feels very rough and unbalanced, but Final Soldier and Soldier Blade are both really easy.

>>9492426

Yeah they're not that hard, but they offer a decent challenge to newbie shmup players.

Cho Ren Sha 68k

>>9492419
Last one I played was batsugun and the other one for Sega Genesis biohazard

I like the Sega ones but they're all too expensive to buy

xevious

Akai Katana Shin is on Steam now.

>>9492550
so fucking good
i have the windows port pinned permanently to my taskbar

i think ill give it a go now

>>9492419
I stopped for a while. Last ones I played were Detana Twinbee Collection on Saturn and Einhander before it. My favorites are still Keio Flying Squadron, Lords of Thunder (SEGA CD version), and Android Assult: Revenge of Bari-Arm, followed by a handful on TurboGrafx CD and PS1.

>>9492419
I still got to go beat Blazing Lasers. Time to go beat that game.

>>9492419
Odd Mobs

>>9492426
>too long, too sterile and generic, and just very low energy
Yeah that's basically every PC Engine shmup. At least Star Soldier has caravan modes.

best snes shmups? I already know and love axelay, and have already had my cheeks paddled by gradius III and rtype. haven't tried the banjo one yet

>>9495254
super aleste/space megaforce

>>9492419
Xexex
It's really pretty to look at, but I don't think I am going to 1cc it.

>>9495254
un squadron (area 88)

The only shmup I ever really fell in love with was Judgement Silversword. I’ve tried a number of other popular recommendations but I really don’t jive with the style of most of them, there’s a simplicity to JS that I really appreciate versus something like a Cave shooter where there’s just moving shit everywhere on the screen. Any recommendations that might be in line with my preferences?

>>9495915
Flame Zapper Kotsujin
Rayforce
Salamander 2
Gunbird
Batsugun

>>9495254
Aero Fighters/Sonic Wings (Sonic Wings is better as it has the second loop). The Arcade version is even better, but the SNES version is a surprisingly great port and has an additional character that has a unique playstyle.

>>9492419
The PGM holy trinity. Not even a deranged tranny.

>>9492419
Blast Wind and Hyper Duel. It's pure ludo kino.

>>9495915
I would check out Psikyo games, such as Sonic Wings (Arcade), Sengoku Ace, Gunbird, Strikers 1945. You can also try out something like 1944 or 19XX. All of these have pretty simple systems, but are still very challenging games with some brutal patterns.

If you want something really simple, check out some of the PCE shooters, like the Soldier trilogy (Super Star Soldier, Final Soldier, Soldier Blade), Nexzr, Blazing Lazers, etc. Gate of Thunder is also excellent, although it's less beginner friendly.

I know it's a little new for this board, but I've been playing a lot of Revolver360 Re:Actor lately.
It's a pretty good twist on the genre, really adds a whole new dimension to the gameplay.
In all seriousness, it's probably my favorite shmup.

What games have good intricate scoring systems that aren't made by Cave or Raizing?

Thunderforce 4&V
I'm also a real effort to beat Radiant and some of it seems literally impossible.
Thunderforce V is also fucking hard, I've been at it for a few month and I can reach stage 4 with no hits if I'm lucky but the stage 4 boss is bullshit

>>9492419
raycrisis
zero gunner 2

R-type final 2

By the way i want to talk about twinbee lore . Any twinbee fans here ? Why they never told us who is mother of every protagonist ? Or it's just because it's not important for gameplay anyway. Just like no one know who is mother of all browser sons . Dr.cinnamon are father of Annamon and donnamon. Annamon are father of Light . Donnamon are father of Pastel . Then Annamon and Donnamon are disappear from the lore by no reason. And no one talk about their wife . Some source from the series say Annamon and twinbee come from planet soltias . What i though dr.cinnamon create twinbee

Meta shmup question:
How do you would resurrect the genre?
Secondary question, given the ability would you actually do it or it's better off ded? (any pararrels to new beus beside rage4 are intended)

>>9500057
There is no money to be made.
Make a cashgrab smartphone game instead of wasting millions in a 40 yo boomer vanity project.
>(any pararrels to new beus beside rage4 are intended)
Streets of Rage 4, Fight 'n Rage, Ninja Warriors One Again, Pocky Rocky Reshrined, Blazing Chrome, Infernax, Cuphead all good stuff
Anything by M2 Shot Triggers on Nintendo Switch is golden.

>>9500057
>How do you would resurrect the genre?
Some combo of genres/mechanics. shump with X . An indie will succeed sooner or later and create a case like Isaac, and reinvent the genre all together.
I dunno how to do it, but I can bet the new great shmup won't be an autoscroller 40min long that you play for scores.

>Secondary question, given the ability would you actually do or it's better off ded? (any pararrels to new beus beside rage4 are intended)
I would, because if my exemple comes to reality old shumps will become the roguelike vs roguelite

>>9500057
The Sky Force series has mostly gotten it right:
>Default game mode is stage select
>Each stage have sub goals of scoring/survival/collecting that earns you medals
>You keep unlocking higher and higher difficulties with more and more sub goals
It encourages the mastering of the game (through addictive medal collecting) but in bite sized chunks, with the full playthrough being kept as the final challenge.

Unfortunately Sky Force also has RPG systems in place, though it doesn't take long until you've maxed out everything.

>>9492887
Lords of Thunder (SEGA CD version)
>retard detected

>>9500057
Mandatory requirements:
>simultaneous PC and console release
>no $60/$70 garbage pricing
>no severing of arrange modes into DLC
>free demo up to stage 2
>GGPO co-op/pvp
>leaderboards for every mode/difficulty combo
>replays
>optional modern 4K CRT filters
>border/widget customization
>bullet/color/hitbox accessibility options
>novice mode, normal mode, hardcore/black label mode
>freeplay mode, stage/boss/hitbox training mode, boss rush mode
>AI 2P a la DDP SDOJ
>wealth of unlockable bonuses to round out the package
>steady flow of game releases, new or ports

>>9492419
i love playing graze counter

>>9497646
V looks great. I'm currently playing through IV on switch as one of my first, and while I can get through each of the first 4 stages on their own sometimes, trying to string them all together feels insane as a shmup scrub

>>9500586
This game is extremely fun. Played the demo but I guess I'll wait till GM in january

>>9492419
i got the analog pocket and openfpga at work now
gg aleste 2
kingdom grand prix
esp ra da
gekirindan
metal black
gigawing
ordyne
coryoon
magical chase
>>9492550
excellent choice

>>9500893
>magical chase
super overrated game. was just playing this last night and have no idea why anyone would ever hype this mediocre trash up aside from the fact that it is way overpriced for a physical copy.

>>9501345
because its, dare i say it, FUN
anon why do you hate cute things?
magical chase and coryoon are cute, CUTE!

are they the best games ever made?
of fucking course not, i play games for fun

lighten the fuck up brotha

>>9492419
I've been on a NES Gun Smoke kick lately.
No where near as hard or as good looking as the arcade version, and having to press A and B simultaneously is a bit of a pain compared to having three dedicated buttons, but it's still fun as hell. (and for the life of me I can't find the hidden wanted poster in the first stage, I keep having to buy it from the merchant)

>>9500432
Esprade Psi Inori's Room mode is just like that

>>9500432
Yet Sky Force sucks and so do rpg elements. I don't need a game to drip feed me rewards to keep me playing. Give me good gameplay and I'll go for survival 1cc, and naturally try to get better....if the score system is good then even better. But little trophies and unlockables are annoying for me.

how do I git gud at radiant silvergun

playing it on Saturn if it matters

I just finished it on the phone.

>>9503498
The first half of the game has to be played like a dadshmup; learn precisely where to be/what to shoot so you chain every single substage, and destroy all parts on all bosses up through at least the dragon. The secret chain after Kotetsu/during Golets is mandatory.

Vulcan is the most important weapon to upgrade and ideally should be above 25 by the final level. Homing is considered essential for a particular phase of the Xiga fight, but if you nail everything beforehand it's possible to speed kill him with your straight shot (requires pretty strict routing during the phase in question, though).

This 100% works for a Stage 2 route 1cc. I moved on before I got the Stage 4 route but it was definitely doable with similar strats.