/vr/ - Retro Games

No

>>9474626
Yes, Decap Attack and Power Blade

>>9474613
Almost anything by Working Designs. They took extremely mediocre easy games and redid the script that was still faithful but added a lot of pizazz and balanced the games to make them a fair challenge.

Dragon Quest with character animations and battery backup was an improvement.

>>9474646
same with Final Fantasy.

>>9474635
Cool Story Mod.

>>9474613
The English/German Editions of Turgor/The Void. IPL redid so much that they prefer the newer version over the original Polish and Russian versions. They even rebranded it to be called "The Void" instead.

There was many. It wasn't rare that the western version was an up to date version of the original.

Dragon Quest VIII is another example. The version for the western markets added the magnificent synphonic version of the soundtrack, for another DQ example

>>9474613
Other than updates which isn't part of localization? There are >>9474628 but that's it. So, No.

>>9474635
Difficulty + wacky meme jokes that aren't relevant now does not equal an improvement.

>>9474635
Those jokes all aged like shit. Bill Clinton jokes in a medieval fantasy setting?

>>9474613
Any licensed game that becomes an original ip. So stuff like Shatterhand and DeCap Attack, Blazing Lazers and Mario USA. It lets the gameplay be the main focus rather then the ip attached to it and gives the developer free reign to rerelease it or expand on it with a sequel without dealing with the copyright it had slapped on it. Its the one case of localization i wish had happened more.

>>9474613
Power Blade is a rare localization W
Tho I'm not sure if it really counts as a localization in a traditional sense so much as "complete fucking overhaul/remake"
It's so much better than the Japanese game, which feels like a semi-polished beta in comparison.

In terms of actual localization and related changes, I can't really think of any. I feel like those kind of changes usually make the experience worse, then again, I'm a biased weeb who prefers accuracy. The WD approach never appealed to me but I'm probably a minority with that opinion

>>9474719
>Any licensed game that becomes an original ip.
Any?

>>9474613
River City Ransom is cool as fuck.

>>9474613
Magic John/Totally Rad
It's a middling sidescrolling action game that never really gets out of its groove, but the localization is the reason the game is remembered to this day and nobody gives two corn cobs about Magic John.

Kunio-Kun becoming Double Dragon

>>9474613
Contra to Probotector

>>9474764
Konami dropped the ball not rebooting this into a gritty robot war ip separate from contra.

>>9474613
Wario Blast. In Japan, it was just a regular Bomberman Game Boy game. But the localized version added Wario as a playable character.
Also thought the plot, even if there was barely one, was a bit more interesting. In the original Bomberman GB, Bomberman simply gets his things stolen by the Madbombers. In the Wario Blast story line, Wario somehow finds a portal that links his world to Bomberman's world. Wario goes there to gather resources and minions and Bomberman must stop him, giving you the hero route or villain route depending on who you choose.

>>9474635
Agreed. All the hate for Working Designs is undeserved.

>>9474732
Sorry, Black Belt is, in fact, better

>>9474635
>>9474813
nice try, vic

>psycho-ville
If the character was renamed "David Sowerbutts" and the princess to "Maureen," I'd play the localisation.

>>9474818
You are kidding. I'm upgrading the challenge.

>>9474613
Mario 2 is significantly better than Doki Doki Panic.

>>9474635
>muh heckin wacky localization!!
kys troon

>>9474719
>Blazing Lazers
How is this better than Gunhed?

>>9474613
JP version of The Jetsons's SNES game

The main character of Panic Restaurant went from some dopey kid to chef boyardee

>>9474719
so true

>>9474635
>Almost anything by Working Designs.

the funny thing about this is that Working Designs use to be praised for their localisations, and using original art on the packaging and not hiring an American artist to redraw the box art, etc. Yeah, they definitely made the games harder for the west. Which had more to do with the rental market. I guess their localization would be considered the 'anime club' variety. They do take liberties with the dialogue.

>>9474759
Only happened once with that gameboy game that nobody player

>>9475016
Just the fact they can rerelease it whenever they want without needing to pay off whoever owns the Gunhed ip.

>>9474635
>and balanced the games to make them a fair challenge
Not always. They ruined the balance of Silhouette Mirage partially tarnishing its legacy, and made Exile 2 for the PC Engine borderline unplayable. Do you really, unironically believe that they beta-tested these games after cranking up the numbers in their code, before releasing them into the market?

>>9475212
>They ruined the balance of Silhouette Mirage
Disagree.
I actually quite enjoy the way they handled SM.
>made Exile 2 for the PC Engine borderline unplayable
No. They made it completely unplayable. Unwinnable, even, with the ridiculous stat changes. I gave up when my level was capped and I could barely attack anything new coming my way and idk anyone else who beat it, either. We tried, but we all failed.
They're far from saintly, but SM was a poor ezample of their fuck ups and if you mention Exile 2, you need to be honest about it being completely unplayable not "borderline unplayable." Since you didn't know that the way they fucked with Exile 2 makes it unwinnable, I'm going to guess that you've never actually played their localisations and are simply parrotting some shit you've heard others say.
How far off am I?

>>9474613
>electician

>>9475230
Fuck you I did, and I dropped it until the Un-Worked Designs hacks came. I've said "borderline", because no-one can be certain that there wasn't at least a single crazy fool who finished that exact version of the game.
I'd think that games such as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are unfinishable, but the Internet proved me wrong. If the localized version of Exile 2 was highlighted by some e-celeb, then I am certain that at least someone would record themselves beating it on that unfair difficulty.
I've played the first PCE Exile on its localized difficulty, though.

>>9475185
And why do i care about that? Its the same game with stuff removed, because of localization. Not a good example.

>>9474613
Technically censorship and not localisation but Super Probotector for the SNES in Europe was made infinitely better by playing robots.

>>9474613
Almost all of them were improved by Anglodom

>>9474613
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine

>>9475112
I really like this one. Cool game too, by the way.

>>9475785
>Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine was also a tie-in with the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon series. As it features Grounder, Scratch and Coconuts from the cartoon,

Also, Kirby's Avalanche on the SNES is a western localization of Super Puyo Puyo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZnpDWhj3kE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McqcIRsjsWc

Dr Robotnik's mean bean machine is a localization of Puyo Puyo for the Japanese Mega Drive.

>>9474719
Shatterhand was technically the original version of Solbrain, not the other way around.

>>9474613
Not many I can think of. Warsong on the Genesis had better character portraits in the U.S. version and I liked some of Woosley's translations. Most of the times, at least for retro games, localization has had negative results. (Terrible package arr, unnecessary high difficulty to bolster the rental market, character changes, fundamental story changes, ect).

>>9474613
Going to add Cybernator as well. The Japanese version had way too much talking, breaking up and pausing the action sequences. I would have liked to have seen the suicide of the official kept in though.

>>9474787
I get why Wario would fight Bombermen but why/how would Bomberman fight Warios?

>>9474759
>>9475179
The original Double Dragon was also a Kunio-kun/Renegade sequel, but that was only in the planning phase before they decided to just make one version of the game for the entire world.
With that said, I do prefer the Warriors-inspired aesthetic of Renegade over the high school shenanigans of Nekketsu Kouha.

>>9474654
>same with Final Fantasy.
Pretty sure the FC Final Fantasy is almost identical to the NES one outside the text and the fact they changed one of the monster designs that was ripped off from Dungeons & Dragons.

>>9474732
>>9474818
The only interesting thing about the changes in the Black Belt was the different music and the fact that they changed the zako characters in Round 5 to "BLACK WOMEN".

>>9474664
you know the symphonic edition is a special edition don't?
yet murrican version is still censored shit

>>9475408
K.
And when did you play their localisations? Certainly not around when they were first released, yeah? I did. Without knowing any alternative at the time, we didn't mind the changes at all except for with Exile 2. Fuck that one. Fuck it right in the ass with a big rubber dick.

>>9474635
This. Literally no one would have cared for a faithful localization of those games because they were all bland and dull as fuck

>>9474787
I had only ever played Bomberman 64 prior to this seeing this game at my local rental store back in the day, so for a long time I thought Bomberman was a Mario spinoff character who had his own line of games, like Yoshi, Wario and Donkey Kong. I kept waiting for him to appear in Mario Kart or Mario Party

>>9474613
Fish Dude. They made him cool and hip for the kids unlike the shitty original. Hat + Dude = I will now play your game.

>>9475620
Blazing Lazers got re released in japan on the pc engine mini exactly because konami had access to that version.(JJ & Jeff was another) Regardless what you may think, that is part of the main point, games getting continued future releases for new audiences that a tie in to another company may have hindered the ability to do so. Same reason we rarely see licensed games get rereleased.

>>9475620
There is also no cut content between the two besides a title screen change and removal of the Gunhed license. If anything, its like shatterhand where they just slapped the ip onto a game already in development.jxxdmy

>>9475230
I have Exile 2 and never finished it, but didn't WD actually play through it after the complaints and confirmed you can beat it, but most of the characters are useless and you gotta abuse some mechanics?

Working Designs gets more flack than they deserve. I see them as being more like ZSNES: basically no one would choose their offering outright today, because the world has changed and we have higher standards for what must be done, but at the same time, they were what you had back then, and if not for them you would have probably never seen the kind of stuff they were willing to bring over at the time that they did.

>>9475861
You would want to fight Wario as well if you had to spend more than five minutes with him.

>>9476163
>>9476168
I heard there is removal of intro cut-scene, but don't really know, nor do I know anything about Gunhed license.
>its like shatterhand where they just slapped the ip onto a game
I didn't look at it like that. You're right. It makes sense sorry.

>>9474613
whoever made this meme needs to admit to themselves that they just don't like sonic

>>9474928
lmaoo

>>9474613
I like the old 80s and early 90s thing of taking a soft Japanese children's character and making them Radical.

>>9476281
Maybe play more video games than just Sonic?

>>9476553
i don't know what more definitive character op could be referring to that people have this kind of discussion about. maybe shut the fuck up?

>>9476580
Looks like Bonk to me.

>>9476636
it's not bonk

wahhh sonic's supposed to be cute wahhhhh bonk powerups are localization errors wahhhhhhh i will never be japanese

>>9476730
Looks like Bonk to me.

>>9476756
it's literally a metaphor representation for other characters you stupid fuck idc that his head is vaguely bonk-like. doesn't even actually look like either "incarnation" of his character anyway. definitely shut the fuck up.

>>9476767
But you said it was Sonic the Hedgehog.

>>9476636
The left character and the opened up lines looks like a mock on Kirby, the right looks like those hyper-westernized boxarts that you see with Mega Man.
>Uhhh that's Bonk because uhhhh bald?

>>9476787
>b-but you mentioned a primary character it could easily be a metaphor of

>>9476767
Looks like Bonk to me

anyone acting like bonk is more definitive than sonic can go climb a wall of bad faith dicks

>>9476823
>the right looks like those hyper-westernized boxarts that you see with Mega Man
Or Bonk?

>>9476846
ask yourself why op even drew another character to begin with

>>9476846
>neither of which are at all the same artstyle as op
bad faith double nigger

>>9476852
It represents what the OP is talking about a lot more than >>9476281

>>9476856
>caveman running around bonking shit
>caveman running around bonking shit with a smirk
where's all the 90s radical shit retard? the only connection you've made is durrr bald head

what POSSIBLE reason would le evil gaijin devs have given bonk slightly more attitude to begin with i wonder?

it's sonic. it's all about sonic. literally shut the fuck up if you're still so stupid you don't understand this.

>>9476868
How is it about Sonic?

>>9476767
That is absolutely bonk.

>>9476171
idfk wtf WD did after the 90s, bruh. All I know is that Exile 2 was unbeatable and broken and that lizard people live beneath the Denver airport.

>>9474613
Don't forget to post the game it's referencing

>>9476281
Mega Man is more fitting, or pic related if it had a western version

>>9474613
It’s utterly bizarre how western gen x and early millennials still defend this because of their childhood nostalgia, it’s so blatantly awful that you’d think they could set that aside

I know a lot of games were made more difficult for Western releases, but are there any cases of games that were made easier in localization?

>>9478249
Games were mostly made easier for the Western audience, games that were made harder were the exception

>>9478209
name?

>>9478258
>>>9478209
>name?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-yJJaTPAaM

the only Japanese game ever to have a dub which can be considered objectively superior to the original voice acting

>>9478297
Kingdom Hearts had a better English dub too, to the extent that the then-Japanese-exclusive re-release version of the game featured English voices

>>9478257
>>9478249
I thought it was half and half

>>9478303
It was definitely skewed in favour of games being made easier. A lot of games never even made it out of Japan simply due to the notion that western kids were so shit at video games that they would never be able to enjoy them

>>9478297
i'd thank the script more than the performances, these alexander o smith rewrites really punch up what are otherwise really mundane and straight-forward exchanges. some might prefer the latter for grittier tales, but XII isn't that

>>9474613
Sonic.

>>9474787
Didn't one of the Bomberman games have Pyramid Head as a playable character as well?
>tfw Mario shares a continuity with Silent Hill
deepest lore

>>9478364
Bomberman R series has a lot of konami characters designed as bomberman

>>9478297
I'd put the original MGS on that category.

>>9478297
>objectively superior to the original voice acting
No it's not.

>>9478302
they do that to make more changes so they could charge more again for international/final mix version
it's not about quality of dub

What's with the tard(s) who keeps bringing up Bonk and Sonic when the OP pic is just a deliberately generic character used to represent the phenomena as a whole

>>9478302
I'm sorry but i will always like Miyu Irino's performance better.
Riku is fucking kino in both versions.

>>9478509
>Jack 2 Sis never
fuck you atlus

>>9479719
>Jack bros 2 comes out
>You need to buy day 1 dlc to play a Jack the ripper

>>9474613
Ever seen the girl version of this?

KKKXJ

>>9474695
They were a massive improvement at the time though

>>9474613
Zero Wing.

>>9474928
You made me puke
Lmao

>>9474613

>>9480884
Oops I forgot this was /vr/

>>9475112
the localization also reduced the ending from a full credits sequence to a single screen, so it sucks

>>9476767
still looks like bonk tho.

>>9478224
>gen x and early millennials
unironically worse than boomers and zoomers.

>>9480293
Looks like Panel de Pon turned into Sabrina: the Animated Series.

>>9476636
>>9476756
>>9476839
>>9476846
Shantae?

>>9478297
Not retro, but I'd argue Xenoblade too, in fact, the dub was so popular, all subsequent games also have british voice acting

>>9481538
Americans shouldn't have access to videogames.

Spanky's Quest is not even really a bad localisation. I just had to post this ad because Archie approved it.

>>9481806

>>9476281
Half the time it sounds like people who call everything edgy and are afraid of things not looking like Kirby

>>9474613
I need examples of games that did this. I can't think of one.
I remember some ironic faux hordcore ads for cute games, but not any localization like this.

>>9476636
>>9476756
>>9476846
It looks like Bomberman

>>9479719
It's called Synchronicity Prologue

>>9481636
Shantae is already American and specifically made to appear more Japanese, even appeals to waifufags over there

>>9481538
Screams Pocky and Rocky to me

>>9481884
And the SNES localization

>>9475230
>Since you didn't know that the way they fucked with Exile 2 makes it unwinnable, I'm going to guess that you've never actually played their localisations and are simply parrotting some shit you've heard others say.

why do autistic spergs talk like this?

>>9476868
>>9476869
the guy who drew the american sonic cover art also drew the bonk art, lmao

>>9481884
>>9481887
Also feeling some Kendo Rage vibes

>>9481889
Talk like what? Seems a perfectly cromulent sentence.

>>9481845

>>9481905
>the guy who drew the american sonic cover art also drew the bonk art, lmao

It was done by a person named Greg Martin (RIP). Greg was an industrial artist who did a lot of cover art for various forms of home media. This guy did VHS covers, DVD covers, video game covers. You're seen this man's artwork in one form or another without knowing it.

>>9481949

>>9481950
It's that early 90's cartoon VHS tape look with heavy air brushes
Not gonna lie, his Shining in the Darkness boxart looks pretty fitting since that game already looks and feels like a Saturday morning cartoon to me

>>9481845
The classic example is Kirby, but they only just make him look angrier but nintendies have to make it look like they turned it into GTA

>>9482001

>>9482118
This is based and everyone who disagrees are sissies

>>9482118
Still funny to this day. People love to hate on the old Kirby ads but they're funny as hell

>>9481638
The dub was popular but the reason for that was costs, it was just cheaper to have games dubbed over there.
The Reyn VA for example? That was literally his only VA role.

>>9482118
>>9482130
>"Angry Kirby" is great and canon to the games. Its why he is such a fun character, cutsey things that are actually bad ass and get shit done. Seeing him pilot mechs and vehicles and dangerous weapons is a fun juxtaposition to pink blob look of him, plus all the "DEEP LORE" horrors he fights. Id say its similar appeal to seeing Mario is more varied and weird adventures like the RPGs or Sonic anime plot bs. Its like your pet dog or stuffed animal or your lazy uncle suddenly grabbing a sword and going off to stop the apocalypse. Its unexpected, fun and neat.

>>9480884
They added soul in.

>>9474613
Yeah, Doki Doki

>>9482118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP5pb7hGelM

>>9482395
Most of the Xenoblade actors aren't even VAs, they're often stage actors IIRC

>>9482118
>t
Maybe this add would have worked better if they had Super Star or even DreamLand 2 by that time.

>>9482757
The Dream Land 2 ad was almost as cringy.

>>9481953
This one looks better, even if you had to sacrifice that sexy Athena cover art from Japan.

>>9474635
Everyone who hates working designs is a tranny because they were based out of Redding, CA which is the only conservative stronghold in california.

>>9474635
>redid the script
>that was still faithful
>but added a lot of pizazz

>>9480884
>all that pointless garbage
Americans.
Western games are doing this more than ever now. Characters just won't shut the fuck up, for some reason they need to be talking pointless drivel all the damn time. Maybe it's to distract the player from noticing the garbage they're currently playing.

>>9474635
Almost nothing by Working Designs. They took extremely mediocre easy games and redid the script that was still faithful but and added some worthless extras.

Alundra is the only thing they did worth playing

>>9482860
Trannies hate Japan and loved how Working Designs was americanizing out all the horrible Japaneseness from the games.
Then they discovered a bunch of non-pc jokes in their translations and suddenly switched to hating them overnight.

>>9476128
>that hat on the dolphin
it's authentic

>>9482954
>Trannies hate Japan and loved how Working Designs was americanizing out all the horrible Japaneseness from the games.


I'm not going to speak like I have any authority on the subject. But that statement seems a little too broad. I am not trans of any kind, But I have known trans people via the web and forums and shit who would have anime or manga avatars. There's a lot of fringe and not so fringe manga/ anime that would features transgender types. I haven't played all the Working Designs games, the only one I own is Vay for the Sega CD and I had Popful Mail as well. Those games threw a lot of American pop culture references and jokes into them and would have the odd PC-ish jokes in them. But nothing that was too outlandish,

Back in the day, WD translations were generally acceptable. Though even magazines like Die Hard GameFan (who would hype all WD releases) would rail on them for going a bit overboard. But they would still praise WD overall for keeping it 'as close as possible' to the original source material. It was different times when something like Lunar would be considered a good localisation. Though I feel like the bar was kinda raised with Snatcher and Metal gear Solid on the PS1. But Hideo would disagree, since he fired Jeremy Blaustein from doing MGS2 and demanded a much more literal translation. The kind of stuff WD did was closer to some of the English OVA and anime dubs that were happening at the time.

The re-balancing to make the game harder. I don't really blame WD for doing it, as this was very common with localisations in general. Contra Hard Corps on the Genesis removing the life bar. Just one example. There really was a stigma around rentals and how it eats into sales profits. So devs would jack up the challenge to make the games harder on purpose. It was a real thing.

>>9483058
I think it's mostly the perception of what makes a "good" translation for many people. Phoenix Wright is loved and it practically was a Working Designs style when it started out because of its attempts to go "no this isn't Japan what are you talking about haha hey Maya sure loves to eat HAMBURGERS am I right". But overall anime and Japanese media has become big and ingrained enough that the Working Designs/4Kids/Saban levels of translating something is more met with derision than "oh boy anime". Even when Nintendo tossed memes into localized scripts of their games, people are more likely to groan and wish they weren't there now.

I think part of it too is that Working Designs translated Magic Knights Rayearth, which has the honor of being the last western Sega Saturn game. If it were anything else, sure, but Rayearth was an established franchise and WD putting on their trademark brand of humor soured a lot to them: even back when the game was new, people felt it was an awkward and out of place translation for the game because the anime was available and already had fans. So you have a game that hits a lot of "oh should I check this out" flags (last console release in the west, based on a beloved series, etc) and get hit with "eh, they made it worse" is sort of an "the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes" moment for them.

Also they put an ammo system into Silhouette Mirage and that personally rankled me because it meant you never wanted to experiment with different weapons due to the cost to use them, then they added grinding for money on top of it. They frequently mistook tedium for difficulty.

>>9482931
>play the game the way the devs intended
>devs intended for the character to have 1 dialog box instead of 3
Translations of anything tends to have to add more dialog boxes due to text space with Jap characters usually requiring less symbols to write the same English sentence that you have to smash buttons to get through every time. It's funny how anyone defends adding more than necessary text boxes to insert any amount of idiotic, "localization" text.
>>9482860
>>9482954
Trannies would rather speedrun the Jap versions to skip the retarded dialog boxes faster, too.

>>9483089
>I think it's mostly the perception of what makes a "good" translation for many people.

When Working Designs released some of their earliest Sega CD games, disc media for home consoles were still new, and Japanese to English localisations were generally not good overall. Working designs got a pass for their effort in the voice acting and overall localisation. This was a time when Japanese to English localisations were still being done by small groups, or were like Samurai Pizza Cats. But later releases, in the 32bit generation, there was more demand for straight forward localisations. Even back then, there were still a few criticisms over WD's taking the localisation too far. But that was easily dismissed.

>>9483089
>I think part of it too is that Working Designs translated Magic Knights Rayearth, which has the honor of being the last western Sega Saturn game.

Magic Knight Rayearth was released in 1995 in Japan, and a really early Saturn game. Working Designs originally announced that they started localisation in July 1996, along with the localisation of Dragon Force. Apparently they lost part of the game source code. Or Sega lost it from a HDD crash and they had to rebuild part of the game, which delayed it into 1998.

>>9483216
Yeah they were given a lot of pass by people since they'd sometimes do such grandiose releases for games that any other company would fart out and not look back. Look at the way they handled the PSX releases for the Lunar games. All those extras at a time when games didn't do things like that.

>>9474928

>>9476128
soiface on everythingdyy4ht

>>9481950
Good:
Inspector Gadget
TazMania
Felix the Cat
WoodyPop
Jetson's
Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Speedy Gonzalez
Daffy Duck

Bad :
Everything else. Basically, the non western stuff. Worst offenders are Adventure Island and Landstalker. Not the artists fault, but the publishers.

>>9482783
>>9481953
Saint Seiya meet Castlevania

>>9482118
This is NOT cool. Kirby is non-binary.

>>9483810
So that's why this series is a tranny magnet

>>9481884
proto-Touhou

>>9481906
For decades it's pretty that if the thing just cant be marketed in a way that explains what it is and gets people engaged you just sell it as "weird".

The one part in here ",Japanese fencing" that explains anything is only a nessacity because the word kendo is in the name.

>>9482954
>Trannies hate Japan and loved how Working Designs was americanizing out all the horrible Japaneseness from the games.
weirdest cope I have seen, trannies love anime

>>9483914
The modus operandi on 4chan is to take a pre-existing argument and then shove in trannies into it to make yourself look better, since trannies are the big bad right now.
>X good, Y bad
Becomes
>X good because trannies HATE it!
>No no no, X BAD because trannies LOVE it
Doesn't matter about real trannies or the relevancy to the arguments. You could get two trannies together who believes two completely different things, but doesn't matter.
Like this mentally ill post >>9482860
Everyone who has issues with bad localization choices I like is a chicom pinko queerosexual. Literally all of them, it's the only way I can explain the world.
I think this is a psyop to induce psychosis.

>>9482783
She looks sexier in the American cover.

>>9483058
>>9483914
They like anime as a concept, but they hate all the "inappropriate" things Japan likes to put in there, so they love it when anime gets "properly localized" to remove all that stuff.

>>9481806
>recommended by archie
wut

>>9481845
>>9478509

>>9484627
>but they hate all the "inappropriate" things Japan likes to put in there
lmao the trans people I know are extremely licentious and into weird fetish pornography

>>9483940
Tranny is just the zoomer version of cuck/blacked shit that late millennials used to spam back in 2015 or so. It’s why I completely stopped going to /tv/. Absolute lost cause of a board.

>>9484631
>>recommended by archie
>wut

Don't ask me. I just found it while digging through a collection of EGM magazines on internet archive.


https://archive.org/details/ElectronicGamingMonthly_201902/Electronic%20Gaming%20Monthly%20Issue%20033%20%28April%201992%29/page/n21/mode/2up

>>9474646
Famicom DQ1.....didn't have battery backup saves?

>>9484734
DQ1 and DQ2 used passwords for saving.

>>9478297
>Not a single bad performance
It's genuinely impressive how good FF 12's voice acting was, every game has at least a few shitty VA's but I don't think FF 12 has any even in the bit roles

>>9474928
>brazilian character's name is Ayrton Piquet
top kek

>>9474613
all those dragon ball games on the ps2 got original-original soundtracks, the jap versions just use the anime tracks that aren't too good for the fast paced style of the games

>>9481538
Or a Rice Krispies elf.

>>9486316
Which ones? Tried to find some information but couldn't find any?
Apparently they used an instrumental version for one opening song for the American version, but other than that they are the same?

>>9486764
Apparently there was a rumor like this, but people are saying it's false.

>>9475174
Most people who "complain" about WD are probably just younger jerks who got all their info from youtube and don't actually understand what it was like in a time when even popular franchises would very often stay overseas.

>>9487278
I bet you're the type of retard who defends harmony gold anime dubs.

Imo the Dragon Quest localizations since 8 are 100% an improvement over the original scripts. The monster name puns and the accents make the game a lot more funny and interesting compared to the original Japanese which is comparatively very bland. The older English translations might be more a bit faithful but the new ones are just an improvement in every way.

>>9486764
raw ost extracted from the games:
https://www.zophar.net/music/playstation2-psf2/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-usa
https://www.zophar.net/music/playstation2-psf2/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-3-japan

https://www.zophar.net/music/playstation2-psf2/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-2-usa
https://www.zophar.net/music/playstation2-psf2/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-2-japan

https://www.zophar.net/music/playstation2-psf2/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-usa
https://www.zophar.net/music/playstation2-psf2/dragon-ball-z-budokai-tenkaichi-japan

sample video of jap budokai tenkaichi 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwx61nRIRQg

>>9488758
Thank you very much anon. It seems Raging Blast 1, 2 and 3(Ultimate) from PS3/360 also have the same thing going on: https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/05/28/raging-blast-2-original-soundtrack-overseas-version-pressed/
Is this true for other games than Budokai Tenkaichi and Raging Blast series?

>>9474928
Oliver Benji, los magos del balón~

>>9478509
Those green eyes were clearly a reference to Sonic.

>>9478509

More like Jack Shit!

>>9488369
Huh, didn't expect the DQ localization team to be on /vr/

>>9474613
Right is more interesting and has more personality.

>>9475861
Wario is the kind of asshole who doesn't flush.

>>9475112
US/European versions are an improvement

>>9488369
>the new ones are just an improvement
>third grade translation

>>9488369
>compared to the original Japanese which is comparatively very bland
You don't know Japanese and you've never played these games in Japanese.

>>9488878
>Oliver Benji
Holly e Benji in my country.

>>9488369
I gotta agree actually. I think that mix of light hearted fantasy, though treated like a serious world, mixed with Toriyama art, punny almost Mother-like monsters and even that super stereotypical Renaissance faire dialect all blend together into a nice mix and gives the ip a strong identity you couldn't mistake for something else. Like a bloke like Yangus just feels like the kinda low brow slob who would have the type of voice acting it has. DQ just feels like a Japanese take on the quintessential western knights tale adventure in the same way you could say Earthbound is a Japanese take on suburban America. I get the localization hate, but it fits well.

cool bonk pic op

>>9475804
It begs the question: did these companies have such little faith in Puyo Puyo in the west that they BOTH made drastic changes to their presentation?

>>9489358
And also pisses in the cistern

>>9481538
who did this?

>>9489804
Some zoomer. I'm embarrassed to admit I actually read it.

>>9474613
>Mr Marsch is a skateboarding electrician from New Jersey!

kek

>>9489779
Considering the artstyle, yeah most likely.
Panel de Pon had a similar, but even more drastic issue.

>>9488870
bump

>>9474719
Die Hard Arcade is the opposite with the Japanese version being the original ip

>>9491231
Sega Saturn Magazine: Dynamite Deka is called Die Hard Arcade in the West. Is the content the same?
Makoto Uchida: The versions are almost identical. The difference is that in Die Hard Arcade, the building is called the Nakatomi building, and you can see the Nakatomi symbol here and there. That’s been cut out of the Japanese version.
Sega Saturn Magazine: Are there differences between the characters in both versions?
Makoto Uchida: Yes, quite a lot. For Die Hard Arcade, 20th Century Fox told us to not stray from the story of Die Hard too much. Since the movie didn’t revolve around the president [of the U.S.] , we were told to make the girl appearing in the game into the daughter of the head of Nakatomi. The overall story was to be about terrorists taking over the Nakatomi building. The name of the male character (player one) was accordingly changed to John McClane, and the female player character (player two) also got a name that was different from the Japanese version. Content-wise, the games are almost the same, and even the story isn’t that different on the whole.

>>9474613
Elite Beat Agents

>>9488878
Benji Oliver, sueños de campeón

>>9474613

>>9493202
Ah, a Working Designs game

>>9474613
Mother 1

>>9484734
bussy!

>>9493202
This hurts on all levels, makes me glad most of the old IPs are buried and resting in peace.

>>9490385
The original Doom cover

>>9493202
This just makes me appreciate the retarded and fun 90s tubular shit all the more.

>>9481950
>>9476281
>Guy made a whole career tracing the face of the original sonic design's head and pasting it onto his much more mediocre art
>Sonic sold so incredibly well that he was set for life no matter how badly he drew the characters
Damn what a legend.

>>9474626
fpbp
/thread

>>9474635
Kill yourself.