/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9472231
Genesis and it isn't close.
On a general note, why did so many console manufacturers have such a hard time making a dpad that didnt suck shit?

>>9472238
Why is the genesis one anon?

Genesis will always be better for pressing two directions at the same time, but I never had to do that do comfy snes wins.

>>9472251
Better diagonals, better overall mobility/feel. Sega had dpads figured out for a while there, Saturn dpads were godlike. Shame they forgot all that when it came time to make the Dreamcast pad

>>9472231
pc engine

not joking either

>>9472268
Nigga was that one of the options?

>>9472238
why did so many console manufacturers have such a hard time making a dpad that didnt suck shit?
Because Nintendo patented it. If other companies copied it directly they'd get ass raped by Nintendo's lawyers. They found ways around it, usually by making the mechanism a disk and sticking arrows on top of it. In most cases the end result sucked shit but it was the best they could do without committing patent infringement.

I'm pretty sure Nintendo's patent has expired now. That's why one of the recent Xbox controllers finally copied Nintendo's original design.

>>9472276
Really? Which xbox controller are you refering to?
>>9472258
So the snes one was more comfortable?
>>9472262
I see, thanks

>>9472283
>Really? Which xbox controller are you refering to?
Xbox One S

>>9472276
>Because Nintendo patented it.
But anon, Nintendo's dpads have always sucked shit. That doesn't answer or even really address my question.

SNES hands down, it's the best d-pad of all time

I actually think the cdi/gravis gamepad had the best dpad

>>9472298
>>9472309
The duality of man and hyperbole of 4chan...

>>9472289
That one doesn't infringe on the patent because it has a bunch of differences. The one on the xbox directly presses the PCB instead of rubber membranes, has no arrows on it, and internally it is a cross while the nintendo one is a disc with a cross on it.

lots of stupid small details but that's how you get around patents.

>>9472262
>Saturn dpads were godlike
This is true. I’ve tried my Genesis controller for Genesis emulation but my ufo Saturn game pad for Sega Genesis & Saturn emulation is far better. Still works after 25+ years too.
Nes/Snes get the snes controller though but it doesn’t feel as good in terms of how it fits in your hands and the tactile feedback for your thumbs.

The mega drive controller has the best d-pad, it's really comfortable. I like the PlayStation d-pad too. The Nintendo one feels too stiff, it makes my thumb hurt after a while.

they both kind of blow honestly, but that might be mostly due to being in the year of our lord current year. I didn't have either at their time due to poorfag, and getting my first SNES in 2009 and first Genesis in 2011, those dpads are quite smushy. the dualshock dpads hold up darn well, save for some mixed results over time from ds2 in my experience.

>>9472238
Xbox360 controller for some reason didn't even have 4 pads on its inner d-pad, only 3 and some cut-off joke for the right direction.

Sega had a lot better controllers since they were an arcade company, they knew how to build them.

>>9473474
This. Segas vast experience in building arcade dpad controllers meant they had t had a lot better controllers. Many Sega controllers for home consoles actually use authentic arcade dpads and authentic arcade silicone rubber buttons.

I was never a fan of the Nintendo dpad because I couldn't input Sabin's inputs on it reliably in FF3 US, and I would end up using that official snes fight stick instead for doing input. I don't know if the Genesis one is better, but the snes dpad isn't something I remember fondly .

>>9472309
It certainly hurt less to use than the original NES controller.

>>9472276
>why did so many console manufacturers have such a hard time making a dpad that didnt suck shit?
cost
>>9472276
> wow. we've pateneted a shit design nobody ever liked
fantastic. because the NES controller was well known for being reliable! nah, who am i kidding? it was fucking TRASH.

>. That's why one of the recent Xbox controllers finally copied Nintendo's original design.
that never happened.

the tales and schizo fantasies of nintentoddlers are more amusing that any video streaming site.

>>9473579
a thrashed out genesis pad will still feel better to use than any nintendo pad in same condition. nintendo went as cheap as possible on their controllers, and it remained this way well into the wii era.

>>9472339

I'll support my endorsement of SNES d-pad: it is the most accurate d-pad of all time, there's no chance of accidentally pressing a diagonal like with Genesis

>>9473618
That's the reason I think NGCD dpad is terrible, but I prefer Genesis dpad over SNES.

>>9473565
>arcade dpad controllers
The fuck? What arcade cabinets you know that got a dpad?

>>9473618
kek that's because there's very little chance of hitting a diagonal in general

genesis for shmups and fighting games
snes for platformers
they're both honestly really good though and anyone who claims that one is vastly superior is just fan-boying

>>9473742
The only ones I can think of are the Nintendo Super System and Pokken.

>>9473601
>because the NES controller was well known for being reliable

My NES pads both work despite some serious mileage and they were already used when I got them. I've used my SNES pads like 1/5th as much and one of them has non-functioning Y, A, and Select buttons.

>>9473752
Could you elaborate on why the genesis is worse for platformers?

>>9473790
IDK but I guess the SNES was a little better at cute cartoony graphics rather than gritty realism and the latter is preferable for fighting games.

>>9473790
snes to me just feels better for rocking back and forth between left and right, genesis feels better for needing to seamlessly use all 8 directions. It's a minor difference, both dpads are fantastic - it comes down to personal preference

>>9474519
Right, got you mate. Cheers!

>>9472289
But doesnt the dpad suck shit on that controller? it wasnt until the SeX one when they made a good dpad that didnt even looked like Nintendo's own design, and even then they fucked the face buttons.

>>9473618
Unless you bought chink rubber replacements.

>>9474602
I believe those chink pads are too thick compared to the original and makes it harder to press down on the buttons properly. You could make silicone rubber molds and make your own pads, there's instructions online for that.

>>9472231
I had a Genesis as a kid so that's what my hands are most used to, but I have to admit I kinda like the button layout on the SNES more, now that I've got both.
I wish it was a little bigger, though, the damn thing is tiny. I always feel like I'm gonna break it.

>>9474657
Nintendo always made undersized controllers because they were fixated on the idea that children couldn't handle something too bulky.

>>9474657
But what about the dpads, which is better to you?

>>9474730
Genesis D-pad is better, hands down.
SNES D-pad is like a fat bitch's ass.

>>9474743
Ay lmao, thanks mate!

>>9473790
platformers require a lot more left-right adjustment, like when you're making a jump and have to change your trajectory ever so slightly.
sega pad is must better for circular motions, which is much better for fighting games

>>9474757
Ah right, makes sense. Thank you mate!

as see previous. Sega were an arcade company and arcades were more skewered towards shmups and fighting games so they designed the controllers to be more adapted to those.

>>9473742
Obviously the ones >>9473474 was talking about

>>9475745
The point is that Sega made none, retard.

>>9474743
Yep my genesis dpad was so good if I didn't go straight down I'd accidentally hit diagonals. Looks like the ball bearing punch wasn't centered on the plastic mold

>>9473474
>>9473565
The master system dpad sucked so much ass though and the 3 button Genesis pad was worse than ordinary

>>9475751
>The point is that i'm retarded
Yes. Yes it is.

>>9475790
NOOOO!!!!! Sega were an arcade company so they knew how to build great home controllers that were nothing like anything they used in any arcade system. How can you not follow the simple illogic here?!?!?!

>>9476984
Sega got better as arcade company after 85