/vr/ - Retro Games

It's responsive and tactile. Could do worse, but honestly playing dpad heavy games with a controller that doesn't have the dpad in the primary position starts to get uncomfortable after a bit either way. I'd really look elsewhere for 2D games

>>9468620
its funny how this IS NOT FUCKING /vr/

>>9468627
It's funny how you're backseat modding when anon is looking for something to play ROMs with.

>>9468627
how the fuck it's not? I wanna play emulators with it
>>9468625
thanks mate!

>>9468620
I have this controller and I'm uncertain if I like the d-pad for platformers. i think it could be good, you can "feel" if you're pressing a diagonal by accident or not. but i dont like the face buttons. they're not clicky enough, they feel analog without being analog
also, you can ignore this autistic part, but it just doesnt FEEL retro to me when i use a modern controller.

>>9468642
I see. Well as a zoomer I can only afford to get one controller for now, so I want to get a do it as good as it gets, without strange drivers and hassle desu

>>9468620
Its better than both Saturn dpad and NGCD

>>9468627
Older controllers are generally much worse than modern ones. There are adapters you could buy for retro consoles.

>>9468627
So "funny" is the word you chose to go with here, eh?

>>9468660
what is ngcd? never heard of that controller
>>9468668
anon, which controllers do you think have the best dpads?

>>9468680
That's a hard question, most likely gonna depend on the person.
I like Xbox's dpad but hate its position. Symmetrical sticks have better ergonomics for both analog stick and dpad
Playstation's dpad is good as well its up to preference I think.
Both of them are good and they have much better ergonomics than older controllers.
Xbox has reliability issues if you are unlucky face plate buttons don't work properly. Unfortunately, it is a hardware issue, so nothing you can do about it.

>>9468704
I see, that's fair. Thanks anon! Also that controller looks cool af

>>9468620
friend, have you considered something like this?
d pad in the correct position for 2D systems, still has analog sticks if you want them or need them, and from what I have heard the D pad is absolutely excellent on 8BitDo controllers. Plus, if you're doing stuff on Windows, it will simply be detected as any old Xbox controller so config and compatibility is as good as an Xbox controller would be.

I don't have one myself but I have seriously considered getting one for my emulator box. They also have a non-xbox looking one.

I also don't have the latest iteration of the Xbox controllers but I do have an elite controller and the D pad is nice on it, though I don't like the dish one for 2D, I swap it with the standard cross style one for those games. the dish one I give too many false inputs. but it's a different design than the latest Xbox controller, so I am really not sure.

The D-pad I think is fine enough. But like another anon mentioned, the buttons just aren't great for 2D games, not exactly ideal for playing something like the older Castlevanias.
It's functional and better than any Xbox controller in the past, but still not ideal IMO.

>>9468620
SeX controller is the best overall controller of all time. The Perfect PC Gaming controller.

>>9468856
Seems good, I'll think about that one anon, thanks!
>>9468874
The ABXY buttons are not good in your opinion then? Sucks because I want to use it for castlevania IV
>>9468951
On paper seems like it to me but not 100% about the dpad before I buy it

>>9468620
I love it for fighting games, shmups and platformers, surprisingly. It's not going to replace my arcade stick any time soon, but the dpad on this thing really is great.
The dpad's position relative to the rest of the buttons feels pretty natural in my hands. The face buttons aren't really anything to write home about, but I have no real complaints about them. It feels higher quality than the previous Xbox's controllers.
My only real complaint about this controller is that I can't bind the share button to anything on PC. Oh, and batteries of course, but you can buy rechargable batteries or just use it wired. It's a great controller in my opinion.
>>9468657
>so I want to get a do it as good as it gets, without strange drivers and hassle desu
I've only used mine with Windows 10 and my Xbox One S, but it's foolproof. You don't have to install any drivers if I remember correctly; I'm pretty sure the Xbox controller driver is something either already packed in with Windows or something it installs automatically.

>>9469054
If you don't need two sticks, consider the Fighting Commander Octa. I like it.

>>9468620
The wings on modern controllers have gotten ridiculous. The distance between your palm and the D-pad on this controller would have it in the middle of a SNES controller.

the ps4 controller works great with its dpad and buttons, and I havent had a problem with steam or emulated games

>>9469081
Problem is, that's a 6 button controller.
They are only good for fighting games.
Diamond layout is much better for platformers.

>>9468657
If you want it to be zero-fuss with Windows, definitely go for an Xbox controller over Sony. And as a long time xbox fag, the new d-pads are drastically, drastically better than any other Microsoft has ever created. It's super clicky, very accurate, and generally feels very nice. Also I don't know what other anon's mean by not liking the face-buttons, they're just normal face buttons, they do the job. Also as >>9468856 suggested, the 8bitdo stuff is really good and pretty cheap.
>>9468704
>Symmetrical sticks have better ergonomics
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>9469164
Symmetrical sticks are better for left thumb's analog stick as well. It doesn't force your thumb unlike Xbox's position.
You have to move your thumb unnecessarily high with Xbox stick position.
I'm also not a big fan of mouse click bumpers. Buttons aren't my favorite, but they aren't as bad as other make it out to be. They are fine.
I like Xbox's Dpad see: >>9468660
Also Xbox is much better ergonomically all around than DS. It's not even a comparison. Triggers as well.
But lacks gyro, which is a big issue.
But also lacks touch pad and lightning which is unironically an advantage. (Most people don't turn them off they are worse for battery and useless features.)

Given he says he can't afford another controller, maybe he should go with Dualsense: https://www.google.com/search?q=xbox%20series%20x%20y%20button%20doesn%27t%20work%20xbox
With DS4, he has to deal with Micro-USB which is shit, has to purchase a Bluetooth sooner or later as Micro-USB keeps getting disconnected.
But Dualsense triggers also get broken. People say new colored ones are fine but they haven't been around for long. They increased trigger metal size from 0.25mm to 0.3mm.

>>9469191
we may disagree about stick placement, but any micro USB hater is a friend of mine. Generally agree with you on everything else too.

>>9468620
I hate how clicky and loud it is, specially at night. Otherwise, it better than any Xbox dpad.

>>9469210
who you waking up bro

>>9469219
my wife's boyfriend. who else?

>>9468620
Its a good D-pad. I find it more comfortable than Sony's controller layout. 0

>>9469054
I've been a 10+ yo 360Controller guy.
Honestly, aside from the clicky sounds on the SeX, the D-Pad is very respnsive 'specially in the diagonal directions. It felt awkward at first though, but once you get used to it, it's perfect.
Otherwise, sticks, ergonomics, and mostly the grip/feel on hand, it's amazing

>>9469226
And why doesn't he have a controller for co-op?

>>9469268
on a serious note, it's loud as fuck at night, I still hear it with headphones on. It's much more responsive than the original Xbox Elite iteration but still not as precise as a good old SCPH-1080.

>>9469102
are you simple?

>>9468620
Yeah it's good, maximum comfyness navigating through menus on jrpg, but also precise for movement in platformers. I don't play any fighters so i can't really tell you how that fairs.

>>9469068
>>9469068
Thank you mate! Cheers
>>9469081
I'll need the sticks, because I want a controller for everything. But I'll keep that one in mind, cheers
>>9469082
Do you find awkward to use?
>>9469164
Nice thank you mate! Cheers.
>>9469210
Got it, it's not an issue for me. Thanks mate!
>>9469234
Thank you mate!
>>9469251
Nice, thanks mate! I'll probably get used to it.

>>9469274
Makes you wish we had mechanical, swappable parts like with a keyboard. I'm imagining a custom controller for you that has clicky buttons swapped out for silent ones.

>>9469274
Which controller is that at the end?
>>9469294
Awesome, if its got for platfoers its fine

>>9469305
Brook came close to that with the Mars Wired Controller.

>>9469307
Sony PlayStation 1 stickless.

>>9468620
It's extremely clicky but otherwise a very fine dpad. Seriously it's loud

>>9469342
Ah right I see. Is the dpad on that similar to the ps2 controller or not at all?
>>9469347
Noise is fine for me I think

>>9469484
The SCPH-1080 dpad shape hangs around until the DualShock 3 but the build is very different between all controllers. Because the original controller is packed much tighter than it's siblings since it lacked analog stick, the dpad and buttons are therefore much more firm. They had to make room for the analog sticks later down the line so the parts weren't as tight but still ok. PS2 is the squishiest out of all of the controllers because it had pressure sensitive buttons so a well worn DualShock 2 feels like your pressing on sponges.

>>9469521
I see, thank you for the indepth analysis anon! Cheers

>>9468620
No, it's only good for menus.

>>9468856
Is this the only 8bitdo controller that isnt ass?

>>9468856
How are the dpad, face buttons and analog triggers?

>>9469964
>>9469969

I don't know. it looks promising

as I said I don't have one, I'm considering it and thought I would bring to OPs attention as if I got it, it would fill a similar role to OPs.

I've heard bad things about 8bitdo controller. Wouldn't purchase one without doing a lot of research.

>>9468625
i use an xbox one controller and have never had an issue with this, personally. controllers naturally curved in a way where your thumb rests in between the stick and the dpad naturally, deviating to either side is completely unstressful to do.

>>9470527
What games do you play using that dpad anon?

>>9469226
>my wife's boyfriend
>>9469274
>on a serious note, it's loud as fuck at night, I still hear it with headphones on
kek

>>9470515
I have one (needed a flat wired dual-analog controller), love it, and second the need for research.
>dpad is nice and crisp oldschool style, sometimes I get weird clicking sound but it doesn't affect the input
>analog sticks are great, so are the buttons
>triggers imitate the long-press triggers on modern consoles but are digital, no analog input on them
the bad:
>vibration module is shit, sounds like something's too loose in it but I don't have a mini torx screwdriver so I can't pop it open to fix
>noticeable discoloration of plastic, kinda yellowed like really old hardware; AFAIK this is a problem with all models so I got one that doesn't emulate the colors I'd be pissed off with fucking up (now I'm pissed off with not having Xbox button colors instead).
>there are extra buttons for setting stuff like turbofire and other functions like... who knows? The documentation is non-existent

>>9471708
>L1 and R1 buttons are too thin to be comfy
>the button layout is labeled like on the SNES but detected as an Xbox one by default, so the A/B and X/Y labels are swapped
This all was for the SN30 pro model (wired, in classic GB colors).

>>9471713
>>L1 and R1 buttons are too thin to be comfy
Maybe try swapping them with triggers. I prefer >>9471708
>triggers imitate the long-press triggers on modern consoles but are digital, no analog input on them
them over shoulder buttons nowadays. They feel nicer to press somehow.

>>9471737
If by swapping you mean like rebinding L/R1 to L/R2 and vice versa, that would fuck up my muscle memory something fierce. It's a minor issue for me anyway (more "sub-optimal" than actually annoying), I just listed all I noticed.

I use the Logitech F310 and it do the job, the dpad has a pivot in the middle.

>>9470775
marvel vs capcom 2, super mario games, sonic games, kirby 64, tony hawks pro skater 2 and 4, thrasher skate and destroy, lot of different beat em ups

would you like me to list more or is that enough for you to somehow consider that the dpad isn't shit

>>9468620
There are no good dpads.

>>9472075
Nah mate just curious, it's all. I plan to play castlevania iv, dnd mystara and ghosts and goblins, the new one

>>9472103
should be fine for all of those, as long as the placement really doesn't bug you. never bothered me to the point where i literally never even thought about it.

>>9472118
Awesome, thanks!

>>9468620
I recently played through Sonic Generations using the D-pad for the classic stages and it worked well enough. I like the Series D-pad, but for average sized hands the series controller is too small for comfortable use, especially if you are going to use the face buttons. The bone versions are better since it is a bit bigger, but I find regular 360 controllers fit best with my hands with the negative being their awful d-pads. For fighting games, I still prefer a Sega Saturn controller which also works great for shooting and platformers for me. The series controllers habe Microsoft's best d-pad, but countered by the shape and size being ideal for the average sized gradeschoolers to early teens.

>>9469293
He's right.

>>9473432
Oh nice, thank you for the headsup anon. I have small hands so it will be even better for me. Cheers

Series X Dpad isn’t good for Tekken, hard as fuck to wavu or kbd
Vita dpad still the king of clicky dpads

>>9473734
How about for any similar fighting games? DoA, Street fighter, mk?

>>9473783
Probably fine for moron combat and street fighter
Its really just not suited for 3d

>>9473787
Mostly because of wave and korean back dash style techniques or there is more to it in your opinion?

>>9473797
Yes

>>9473734
I find it harder to do than it is on my stick but still pretty doable. I do feel more comfortable playing Soul Calibur on mine than I do playing Tekken, though.
>>9473783
It's a lot better for 2D games, yeah. One of the first things I do when I buy a controller is dick around in training mode in a Street Fighter game with it for a few minutes, and I was immediately impressed with the dpad on this one. Very clicky and accurate.

>>9473868
I see, thank you for input anon. When I get I will also try it like that