/vr/ - Retro Games

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>>9462996
>Oil Man hides his nig-lips beneath his scarf
What are these, Archie references?

>>9463015
He looks more like a duck to me.

mega manlet

>>9462998
>Airman
>6'2"
A true Chad

>>9463015
Western MM artists near exclusively draw Oil Man based on the Archie design with the larger scarf because they're cowards

>>9463012
So Megaman 6 RMs are manlet except Centaur Man

>>9463008
But Megaman 5 ones are absolute Turbo Gigachads for the most.

>>9463576
thanks doc

>>9463570
Hyper Storm's a big guy,

>>9463576
oh shit my first mega man game

I had no clue how bad it was because I was like 6. thank god I got mega man ii for gb a few years later to recalibrate my tastes.

>>9463576
>>9463578
I wish Capcom would bring these nigs back. I really like em. Call em un finished Robot Masters or something.

>>9463681
Actually, bootlegs made by corporations based on leaked, oudated Light/Wily schematics would be a fun use for them

>>9463681
That would be fine, they have soul. At least with SharkMan.EXE, one of them made it into an official game in a way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkLmE8C-Rw

>>9462996
More like mega manlet!

>>9463659
for you

I'm guessing these are all fan art.

>>9462998
Jesus why is Quick Man so tall?

>>9463578
>that bootleg airman

>>9464549
I mean yeah that's what the MM3 DOS Robot Masters were.
>Magnet Man sans Magnet
>Yellow Hard Man
>Red Flash Man
>Magenta Metal Man sans Metal Blade
>Air Man sans Fan
>Crash Man being eaten by a shark

>>9463524
Quite honestly, the scarf-over-mouth design is better as it highlights his head's "oil-drop" shape. Now if only it were allowed to be black again.

>>9462996
>implying Time Man and Oil Man even exist

>>9463570
Who the fuck are these niggas

>>9463570
They're the Genesis Unit, and the first three bosses you face in the final Wily Tower mode of Mega Man: The Wily Wars. They're similar to the Rockman / Mega Man Killers in that regard (Enker, Punk, Ballade)

Design-wise they are loosely based on Journey to the West. The Genesis Unit has data CDs in Rockman & Forte / Mega Man & Bass, so I'm pretty sure they're considered canonical.

>>9465451
From Rockman Megaworld / Mega Man:The Wily Wars. It includes a bonus game called "Wily Tower" with them in it. It's also criminally underrated and the thing that saves an otherwise lackluster job. Seriously, why isn't there an 8-bit demake yet? It's the most braindead obvious choice.

>>9465575
The best thing would be if a dedicated hacker produced a combined ROM of Rockman 1+2+3, and then crafted a replica of the Wily Tower mode to throw in there too.
I have no idea if NES ROMs have capacity for that much data, though.

Mega Man (U) is 128KB, Mega Man 2 (U) is 256KB, and Mega Man 3 (U) is 384KB, together for 768KB.
Kirby's Adventure is a 768KB ROM so I dare say it could be possible. A mapper can probably address that much non-program data, probably MMC3 or MMC5.

I think Puresabe would probably have what it takes to achieve such a hack, aside from famous stuff like Rockman 4 Minus Infinity and Rockman 7 EP, they've already done phenomenal stuff that sources all six Rockman Famicom ROMs to create mini-showcase hacks.

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3801/
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4864/

Puresabe could probably do music conversion, too. Rockman 4 Minus Infinity features tracks from lots of different games beyond the NES and converts them to the Rockman 4 soundfont. Stuff like F-Zero X, Actraiser, Fire Emblem.

Also Zero totally looks like a remodelled Buster Rod G

>>9462996
So Ice Man is the only robot boss shorter then Mega Man?
Also i'm playing Mega Man 4 right now and i have no idea how to fight Bright Man and Ring Man (i figured out the rest of bosses), how to fight them?

>>9465575
Well there's already a demake of the first 3 games on there

>>9465641
If you remove's Plant Man's petals from his head he's shorter than Mega.

>>9465672
Could even Plant Man take them off?
I mean i thought it was part of armor not headgear of some sort, anyway then this way bright man and dust man are also shorter.

>>9465614
Damn, I can't unsee that.

These heights are bullshit. Blizzardman is not tiny, he's like the 2nd or 3rd tallest rm from 6. Also quickman being taller than pretty much everyone makes no sense. Cool attempt for a fan made thing, but the official height don't exist yet, it's all up to interpretation.

>>9463524
>cowards
Literally every single one of us would ruin the series by shouting about how Nigger Man is a MegaMan villain if they hadn't changed it.

>>9463689
>>9463681
Don't let your dreams stay dreams.

>>9465609
Shit, if you're doing all of that, you may as well actually finish MegaMan 3 while you're at it.

>>9466485
In what way was Mega Man 3 unfinished? I know that it was rushed, but it was a larger game than 2 for having the 4 Doc Robot stages.

>>9466494
>Protoman has more sprites and different attack patterns in the programming that never get used
>His whistle is actually more than the 5 notes that play (you can hear the full thing if you pause when he first teleports in), implying that there's missing moments where he does the whole thing
>Protoman is suppose to talk to Megaman and not just show up and start blasting in some levels; specifically in Gemini Man's stage
>The mobile phone versions fixed it to where Protoman is in his Break Man disguise
>You were suppose to revisit all 8 stages with the actual MM2 Robot Masters at the end
>There are whole unused backgrounds in the code that are masked for some reason
>The weird 2nd Player controller commands are leftover commands for either Rust Jet or the abandoned Rush Drill
>The Dr. RW tiles for the Robot Masters that are still in the code

>>9466548
That's way more unfinished than I realised.

Hell, most players probably don't even know that game takes place in outer space, on other planets. There isn't a single mention of that in-game, just in the instruction manual.

There's an improvement patch simply called "Mega Man 3 Improvement" that appears to address some of the incomplete aspects and oversights, whilst also adding in a proper intro story pre-title screen akin to MM4.
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/992/
There appear to be addendum patches on top of this, but this one has been updated as recent as Feb 2022.

>>9465609
Actually, biggest licensed NES game yet is Metal Slader Glory (ONE FUCKING MEGABYTE).
But some ching chong mappers manages to slap up to 4MB in a cartridge

>>9466621
Wait, are you saying that the game was only 1MB big, but due to the mapper chips, it got bloated to being 4MB or are you saying that it's only 1MB, but they needlessly put it on a 4MB cart because of the mapper chips?

>>9466662
>>9466662
No, Metal Slader Glory it's exactly 1MB.
I just mentioned that there's some unlicensed NES titles that used shady mappers to pull out more storage

Which robot master has the best B-W-H ratio?

>>9463576
>>9463578

I see that you acknowledge the existence of the infamous DOS Mega Man games.....

>>9467602
goddamn this opening section was so surreal and scary as a kid with the absolutely no music (an absence continuing on to the rest of the game). I remember being baffled as to why I was being assaulted by panthers next to the phantom tollbooth but I pressed on, somehow.

>>9465641
you can tell from Plant Man's sprites in MM6 that kind of a midget and barely taller than Mega.

>>9465641
>So Ice Man is the only robot boss shorter then Mega Man?
yes

>>9465641
Use a fully charged Pharaoh Shot on Bright Man and use Acid Rain on Bright Man.

>>9462996
i think it's important to known crotch height too

>>9466839
Centaur man lmao

>>9462996
Torch man from MM11 is literally a ripoff Fire man lol

>>9463570
>>9465574
I'm kinda surprised they didn't change Mega Water S to something else for the localized version.

>>9465641
Bright man is a free for all, but you can out damage him if you stay away from his body, that is what hurts you the most. Ring man is a dance that you can memorize. He is the easiest to no damage once you figure it out. It is completely safe to just take the time to dodge him back and forth until you understand what his pattern is

Here are the official heights taken from Super Adventure RockMan.

>>9469619
Where's Shadow Man?

>>9470338
somebody's gotta take the picture

>>9466839
Frost Man

>>9469619
checks out for the most though there's no way Metal Man is that tall, and Air Man that small.

Mega man is a midget?!

Mega Man 25th anniversary book

>>9470569
Oh, these are much higher quality than the scans I have.

Where'd you get these? Do you have this page in particular?

>>9470570
Might have been from /mmg/ on /vg/ if it's still a thing

>>9470613
Found a mega, much appreciated!

What I've wanted to do for a long time is to get a best possible quality image of this picture, without the calendar obscuring parts of it.

The source of this particular image file appears to be https://kobun20.interordi.com/2012/12/02/yusuke-muratas-epic-rockman/ and acknowledges there are some visual issues like on Rockman's helmet, but also Yellow Devil's eye, Forte's elbow/Blues' shield, and Gamma's jaw. Those details are pretty easily fixed, but removing the calendar text that is overlapping characters like Bomb Man, Search Man, Neptune, Skull Man, and Pharaoh Man is the worst part.
The hope has been to use advanced AI methods like Lama Cleaner and Stable Diffusion img2img + textual inversion to try and regenerate the missing parts, together with manually redrawing missing parts based on reference material from the complete works, but part of me just hopes that an actual, good flawless high-res scan of the original piece exists online.

>>9470634 >>9470613
This is the only other reference image I've been able to find, and it's just too low-res and compressed.

>>9470635
An example of trying to remove the calendar text.

Bomb Man was crudely redrawn by mouse in Photoshop and is not visually consistent with the rest of that part of the picture.
Search Man's helmet and Napalm Man's treads were crudely rendered by an earlier version of Lama Cleaner hosted on cleanup.pictures.

Resources available should be adequate to get the job done but it will take a lot of work. Once the image in >>9470634 has been adequately cleaned up, the goal is to upscale using a combination of SwinIR, RealESRGAN, Waifu2X and manual compositing in Photoshop to try and produce the best looking picture possible, retaining the material look of the original work and correcting the small assembly errors from the original.

Here is a WIP of the clean up, but it has obvious errors still not yet corrected.
>Rough Bomb Man
>Search Man's right helmet and elbow
>Napalm Man's treads
>Neptune's chin (should have a red chin spike)
>Parts surrounding Skull Man and Pharaoh Man
>Also Yellow Devil's right arm near Gospel's nose

Other touch-ups already made include the aforementioned Rockman helmet, Forte elbow, Yellow Devil Eye, Gamma Jaw, and also things like the outer framing.

I haven't worked on this in months though and want to finish it someday.
Lama Cleaner has helped a ton but it can't reconstruct missing details in artwork, but it's super helpful for the easily predictable details on the ground.

>>9469340
Why?

>>9470570
>the guy who does One Punch Man made Dust Man and Crystal Man
Holy shit; are there other RM designers who went on to be well known artists?

>>9471227
Hitoshi Ariga

>>9470741
Because he has "Mega" in his name. Just like "MegaMan".

>>9471256
Did Ariga design the ones aside from his two from Rockman/Forte? Because those were all done by the then three current MegaMan mangaka. I was meaning more of them designing RMs as kids like Murata did.

>>9471272
Yes, iirc he did Star Man as a kid and the One Punch guy was a friend of him

>>9471284
Ariga is Tatsumi Saegusa?

>>9470634
Fuk this is the first time ive seen this and now i also want a really high quality version to make into a poster. They should have used this for one of the legacy collection covers or something

>>9471306
I think it was available for sale in Japan like 10 years ago, which is the problem really, finding the damn thing.

>>9469256
was thinking the same

>>9470662
cool poster