/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9446363
nintendo always have been bastards

>>9446363
If you haven't read Game Over by David Sheff, I would recommend it. It's about Nintendo but is actually quite comprehensive so there's a lot if interesting tidbits about other manufacturers and publishers as well, and definitely has much of what you're looking for.

https://archive.org/details/0966961706

>>9446363
there's a rumor the supergrafx was rushed because namco was designing a pc engine successor with NEC, and hudson got jealous

i definitely do wonder why namco never developed any pc engine CD games, only hucards

>>9446363
You unironically can't beat NES era nintendo. They reached peak scum at that time. Here's a short list
>limit on how many games you can make per year
>yearly limit on cart number shared between all your releases
>can't create ports to competing platforms
>have to pay for nintendo seal on top of all other fees
>1/3 of profit goes to nintendo on top of cart fees
>have to disclose cheats in first order to nintendo so they can use them to profit from their magazine and hotline
>official guides have to pay nintendo a share from profit.

>>9446370
>>9446463
To be fair, this is NoA specifically, not Nintendo.

>>9446623
Famicom publishing had virtually zero restrictions on anything, it's a beautiful wild west.

>>9446363
>JS: And xxxx sent thugs to threaten your sister, to prevent you from testifying?
>HN: They only abducted her, but saying they only abducted her doesn't make it right, does it? That by itself is unforgivable. At the time, she had just graduated high school and was a university student. They did it to make me stop cooperating with Nintendo.
>HN: In Japan, you have these evil companies that always crop up, and unlike the West, in Japan there's a perception that "play" is bad, the opposite of hard work. So amusement-oriented industries inevitably become infested with evil companies and ties to the underworld....
>.... The only companies that have been able to do business while staying clean are probably Nintendo and Namco.
>HN: <laughs> I think many people would do something similar in that situation. I don't know how much you know about xxxx, but are you aware of the "quarantine room" problem from around the year 2000? They would put employees alone in a room and give them absolutely nothing to do, in order to make them resign. xxxx did that, and former xxxx employees sued them and won.
(Sauce: The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers Volume 2)
Sources on Sega and the infamous "quarantine room":
https://www.japan-press.co.jp/2001/2234/sega.html
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/disciplines/dark-side-of-the-sun
Also, Akira Nagai was Sega's managing director between 1965 and 2004, made a cameo as a Yakuza boss in Shenmue:
https://shenmue.fandom.com/wiki/Akira_Nagai
He passed away on November 15, 2022.

>>9446813
They should have put Bernie Stolar in a quarantine room.

>>9446363
Atari threatened walmart that they wouldn't get the Jaguar 2 if they stocked the playstation.

>>9446463
All of which were necessary. Guess you're too young to understand the video game crash.

>>9446813
oh yeah, the quarantine room thing, they did that with Yu Suzuki in the 00s.

>>9447021
Bernie did his job pretty good all things considered - reduce the Saturn presence which was killing Sega financially, and pave the road for the Dreamcast.

>>9447021
>They should have put Bernie Stolar in a quarantine room.
t. seething shiturn owner

>>9446463
Some of these things were not enforced, or stopped being enforced after a while once they realized the market was doing too well. See how many games Capcom and Konami released on NES and Famicom, even if you don't count Konami's Ultra Games it goes beyond some of these limits easily.

>>9447025
imagine defending nintendo's anti-competitive practices.
>muh video game crash

>>9447296
So you are too young to understand the video game crash.

>>9447296
You're an idiot, kid. Go and study, come back after a while.

>>9447296
Not an argument

>>9446813
It's pretty standard nip procedure to not fire people, but instead just give them menial work until they get the point that they're not wanted at the company and resign on their own. The "quarantine room" is just a slightly more brutal version.

>>9447025
good point

>>9446813
>Quarantine room
>Be a wageslave, get the wage but without the slave
>This is supposed to be a bad thing
What do Japanese mean by this?

>>9447025
>video game crash
Literally did not happen outside of North America and was brought about solely by Atari.

>>9447589
Getting paid to do fuck all is nice at first, but god damn it becomes soul-crushingly boring to the point you don't want to be there. The extreme boredom would get to anyone eventually, especially when you're used to being busy.

>>9447650
Yeah we fucking know, everyone knows. This isn't the revelation you think it is.

>>9447683
You'll also get stinkeyes from all your colleagues because you know you're not actually welcome there.

>>9447706
They hate us cuz they ain't us, that's all. Quarantine room is an honor, cushiest job on Earth.

>>9447708
>>9447589
It leaves a shitstain on ones career as-well. In the ultra-bureaucratic society of Nippon, these people have lesser chance of being accepted into jobs of similar or lesser prestige.

>People are more amused by Sega's "quarantine rooms" rather than the fact that they kidnapped someones sister to prevent him working with Nintendo.

i thought japan wasn't a shithole

>>9447683
Just bring your N-Gage and game all day

>people still perpetuating the myth of SEGA as some cutthroat Yakuza company when they were literally founded in Hawaii and ran by 3 American Jewish men
Literally just hired goons.

>>9447650
It didn't even happen in America. It was one company closely tied to Hollywood and the media corporations. It failed instead of taking the L and learning and moving on the losers said all of gaming crashed, it didn't it just moved away from Atari, as Atari crashed.

>>9447751
don't forget killing Yokoi and not even trying too hard to cover it up. That's the Yakuza for you I suppose.

>>9447751
Didn't he do employee kidnapping as well?
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2741/3

>>9447954
Still better than that baseball jew, Howard Lincoln.

>>9447589
>What do Japanese mean by this?
You also get demoted anon

>>9447028
Eat penis amiga faggot.

>>9447025
The only factor the crash had on the market was Nintendo being smart about making and keeping money while actually pushing fresh products, when Atari showed that they were anything but.
They would most likely still have dominated that period, or at least still been the leader by a large margin, even without all the shady and cutthroat shit they actually got up to (it would likely not have changed Sega catching up with them with the Genesis and Atari creating the Jaguar, or something equally stupid).

lmao seething

try sitting around for 8 hours doing nothing. and i mean literally nothing. dont think you can bring some video games or whatever. theyll probably monitor you as well.
looking at my current apprenticeship where i have to click a button and wait up to multiple hours for the system to respond and have nothing to do in the meantime, i can tell you, you start to get really mushy in the brain. i bet there are actual health risks involved from doing practically nothing all day every day

>>9452219
Meditate

Wasn't there an incident where someone rented a literal crane, lifted a CoinOp arcade machine, and dropped it from maximum height right infront of the entrance to Namco HQ? Or maybe sega's arcade division? In an attempt to threaten them?

>>9446463
>limit on how many games you can make per year
Wait this is a good thing. The big three should do this again, while also limiting how many entries to a franchise can be released per generation.

>>9446463
>>1/3 of profit goes to nintendo on top of cart fees
The steam of the 80s

>>9446813
Japan's work culture is insane. I wouldn't be surprised if there were crazier stories out there. And they do all this without any amphetamines involved. Truly a superior people.

>>9452219
>and wait up to multiple hours for the system to respond and have nothing to do in the meantime, i can tell you, you start to get really mushy in the brain.
Are you not allowed to bring a book or even check your phone?

>>9452219
The only account I've ever heard of someone getting quarantined in japan claimed that he had to sit up straight at his cubicle in silence staring at his computer monitor for his entire shift doing absolutely nothing and that his superviser would shout at him if he got caught moving or looking away from the screen.

It was some whittu piggu that moved to japan and they did it because he wouldn't work overtime. And yeah it's not good for your mental health.

>>9453538
>Truly a superior people.
lmao. bro, you worship an island of manlets with 4 inch cocks who can't grow beards and were BBC'd by jews and white people for the last 300 years and currently have a negative birth rate with an average age of 49 fucking years old (pro tip: this means they're going extinct), not to mention a ridiculoualy high suicide rate. i like sushi and zelda as much as anybody but the way you faggots out these slants on a pedestal is absolutely disgusting.

>>9453590
>mentions nigger genitals out of nowhere

>>9453596
>focuses on the term BBC and ignores everything else
here, this is for you

>>9453545
its not going to look good if the apprentice is sitting on his phone all day. doesnt stop me from doing it anyways but i put my phone away the second someone enters the room to not make it too obvious.
and yes, even then you start to go really dumb in the brain. its also just depressing to know how you have to waste away your precious youth doing nothing of value, both for you and your company, and yet, by the time i get home i have maybe 2 hours of my day left before i have to go to bed and i have to use that time to walk the dog because no one else even thinks of doing that, i have to eat, i have to shower. i dont have time for anything anymore but i sit around doing nothing for 11 hours all day. its depressing

>>9454521
Damn that's crazy

>>9453572
>It was some whittu piggu that moved to japan and they did it because he wouldn't work overtime
Why the fuck would you move to Japan and then refuse to adapt to Japanese expectations?

>>9454521
Start playing gacha games bro

>>9454803
Maybe they think it'll be like in anime.

>>9447021
>Atari threatened walmart that they wouldn't get the Jaguar 2 if they stocked the playstation.
what could possibly go wrong?