/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9447438
I don't think going to a company that produces workstation hardware that takes hours to render an ultra high quality frame of animation was the best choice for game consoles which typically targeted 60 frames per second, or 30 frames per second in the early 3D era was the right move. They clearly prioritized image quality and couldn't build hardware that could do things fast.

>>9447443
How many polys can N64 push at 60 fps? How many were in KI Gold backgrounds?

>>9447438
if tekken was on the n64 it would be unplayable
>10fps
>bad res
>fog
>shitty controller

>>9447478
And it would be currently selling on eBay for 100 dollars for a loose cart.

>>9447438
Love how the artist just gave up on rendering hands for Yoshimitsu.

>>9447478
>d-pad and 6 face buttons
Good controller
Also what's up with all this amount of falseflag shitposting? Is it the Tekken 3 spammer?

>>9447483
holy kek I didn't noticed that

>Tekken 1 and 2 run at 30fps
>Tekken 3 run at 60fps
>Popular N64 titles run at 25 - 30fps, only stable in PAL regions.

That's probably why.

>>9447484
>Good controller
>n64 controller is the worst of the 32 bit generation
tendie time, the ps1 and saturn controller are much better, just because you grew up with that retarded controller doesn't mean its good, just look at that shitty d pad for god sake, feels like garbage compared with the ps1 and saturns d pad
>shitpost
like its shitpost when i say the truth, sounds like tendie cope to me

>>9447495
>tendie tendie
Nice /v/ console war stuff.
This board isn't for your kind, go see if/v/ cares about Tekken 3

>>9447483
His hands are robotic, hene why they're blocky.

>>9447438
It couldn't do these light effects nor run at 60 FPS, nor have CD audio nor have those large background textures.

>>9447508
It would look similar to this.

N64 controller is not compatible with fighting games

>>9447527
Why?

>>9447478
LOL N64 was more powerful than ps1 idiot

>>9447537
The N64 generation was groomed into using only the stick.

>>9447545
>N64 was more powerful!
Bottlenecked so hard by its own hardware that in practice it's actually weaker. This will never EVER change the past.

>>9447493
Tekken 1 and 2 run at 60fps though

N64 can't into good lighting effects

>>9447505
NOPE! Only his left hand is robotic, faggot. :)

>>9447516
You mean, 30fps and no lighting effects?

>>9447606
Then chalk it up to his metal gauntlets, since he's clearly wearing armor, you pedantic retard.

>>9447557
You are right nothing will change that the N64 was more powerful than the ps1

On paper, N64 is capable of running 160,000 textured and shaded polygons per second. That's 2,666 polygons per frame for a 60fps game. With Tekken 2 characters being 800 polys each, this is more than enough to render the frame with two characters, a floor and a flat backdrop.
Now Tekken 3 characters are 1,500 polys each and they would have to be simplified to be squeezed into N64 specs.
In short, 60fps Tekken 2 port is definitely possible (with simplified textures because of cart size). Tekken 3 port is only possible with more significant downgrades.

>>9447667
>with simplified textures because of cart size

retard

>>9447689
Tekken 2 arcade version rom size is 194 mbit. Tekken 3 is 384 mbit. These are very stripped down with sampled midi music, just like N64 games, and only one several seconds long intro fmv each.
N64 games with enough rom size to fit Tekken 2 only appeared in late 1998. By that time Tekken 2 itself had became outdated.

>>9447505
>>9447606
Tekken 1 renders.

>>9447725
Tekken 2 renders.

>>9447727
>Tekken_2_Yoshimitsu
Best one even if Tekken 2 is blocky as hell.

>>9447553
>here's what I heard from my subscription on YT today
6 face buttons and d-pad works great with fighting games on N64

>>9447483
Heihachi has perpetually clenched fists while Yoshimitsu uses his in-game hand model.

>>9447478
>fog
It's a fighting game. The stages are just flat images.

>>9447502
see, no arguments, nothing.
the sad state of vr

>>9447545
no it wasn't retard, just because it says 64 BITS doesn't mean its more powerfull

>>9448142
It's because of the rule change, old /vr/ left and new guys are all /v/irgins with severe console war pathology, hence the use of words like tendie or snoy.

>>9447629
the lies tendies tell to themselves to feel better about their shity system

>>9447754
>6 face buttons and d-pad works great
I agree
>fighting games on N64
Not even n64 fans agree. It just wasn't the platform for them

>>9447667
Weren't they already simplifying T3's graphics for the PS1 port anyway?

>>9448165
>shity
oh its you again

>>9448497
nice argument bro, now go back

>>9448506
learn english first

What's with all the amount of Anti "tendie" / pro Playstation shitposting lately? Same guy or discord raid?

>>9448512
>can't make arguments
>HU GO LERN ENGLIS
kek, tendies are really something else

>>9448521
no just that the n64 unnironicaly sucks and ur to dumb to see it

>>9447467
>>9447443
>>9447478
The issue wasn't the polygons with the N64. It was the textures and storage. The N64 had to store lower quality textures because of limited storage space on the cartridges.

>>9448532
But why do you have it rent free this much?
5th gen an onwards in general suck a lot, anyway

>>9448529
yes sir the nintendo do be the really of dumb and gay sir

>>9448538
>But why do you have it rent free this much?
>whole thread is about the n64
its not like op mentioned the n64

>>9448537
It was also the polygons but yeah

>>9448540
take ur pills

>>9448548
But you keep posting on n64 threads a lot, thus having it inside of your head. For free.

>>9448537
This texture sheet already looks more like an N64 game than a PS1 one to me

>>9449129
Wait until you see actual N64 textures

>>9449129
4kb texture cache ain't running none of that, sonny

N64 would probably run Tekken 2 but at lower resolution and the textures have to be shrinked down. Tekken 3 - zero chances.

>>9447581
It's too underpowered for any kind of lighting and blending effects. PS1 is much more optimized for such tasks.

>>9448554
kek take ur pills scyzo

>>9449241
kek

>>9447725
THOSE GLUTES
>n-no homo

>>9447727
I always liked the outfit on the left better. Fits the character more.

>>9447721

Yeah the FMVs are most of that ROM on both games. Just check out MK4 between both consoles if you want an accurate approximation of a Tekken 2 port.

>>9448537
>The N64 had to store lower quality textures because of limited storage space on the cartridges.
I thought it was because of some kind of texture cache bottleneck in the console itself, and that cartridge size was only really a limitation when it came to FMVs and audio.

>>9451754
It was, a PS or SS ISO, the game data is small but the audio tracks and FMV take a lot of space.
The N64 was just badly designed which is not surprising since SGI never made a console before and were over their heads.

>>9451565
>FMVs are most of that ROM on both games
No. Tekken 2 arcade version has only one 20 second intro FMV. Same for Tekken 3 arcade. Considering it's ps1 hardware, they are probably mjpeg compressed and don't take that much rom space.

>>9451754
It's both. Cartridge space and crappy texture cache design affect texture quality on N64.

>>9447438
Nina is cute here