/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9439623
because it's boring and has a shitty stealth sequence to start off the game and as fun as tetra seems they immediately sap of her personality when she turns into a princess, the dungeons all suck cock and the sailing is boring as fuck.

>>9439623
lack of taste, WW is great
glad you got some

>>9439625

>>9439623
Because you're a slave to popular opinion.

It was panned when it came out, so you hated it.
Now that it's popular to like it, you do.

>>9439650
I don't know what popular anymore, I've just been on a zelda kick recently. I played through botw, the gbc games, between worlds and now this

>>9439623
The world wasn't ready for its exploration focused gameplay. Also the stealth segment was both before the first dungeon and greatly prolonged compared to the one in OoT

>>9439623
tetra is the best thing about this game but yeah i don't like it. sailing was not fun. as i recall, cinematics are unskippable. graphics are not good but i never really notice that.

>>9439625
Should have made it a full pirate game with Link and Tetra but they ruined it

>>9439625
The opening is really awful. You finally get a sword and then they take it away and make you do a stealth game. Plus, inverted camera on the original release..

it's very charming and the there's some good swordplay but there are a lot of unrealized ideas. i still like it a lot

>>9439625
fpbp

You were 12, and you didn't want to look like a baby, because on some level you knew you were a baby.

>>9439623
The opening stealth section and mini-game island suck.
The ending triforce fetch quest sucks too.
Also the middle blows with its lame dungeons and poorly implemented upgrades.
Style Over Substance: The Video Game

Pulling stuff out of the water is an awful mechanic

>>9439751
I hope a Gamecube hacking scene on par with the N64 one is due soon as there's so much unrealized potential in the game, especially in making cool dungeons that make use of all the mechanics the game introduces and does nothing with. Practically all the first party Gamecube games were so fucking rushed.

>>9439625
Some would think a person can't get filtered more than once by definition, but here's 4 full layers of nonsense to prove them wrong.

You wanted OoT again.
And MM was too different.
So when WW came out you instinctively hated it for both being and looking radically different.
And then when TP came out you assumed it would be a 10/10 just like OoT which is why you got angry at the 8.8 review.

>>9439623
Because you probably had inflated expectations after the success of their predecessors, many such cases.

>>9439650
Fact check on this post: Wind Waker was not "panned" when it came out.

>>9439623
You want the real reason, or the deluge of rationalizations that followed through the years as people matured enough to feel silly about their original objections but not enough to actually reassess the game?

>>9439957
Note the post doesn't specify who "panned" it.

>>9439623
>Not the artstyle people wanted.
>Not the story people wanted.
>Not the world map people wanted.

>>9439976
>dumb teenage edgelords and autists who can't tolerate anything but the exact ratio of novelty and comforting familiarity
>people
Pick one.

>>9439623
Because it doubled down on the shitty game design direction from OoT.

>>9439625
>and has a shitty stealth sequence to start off the game
The game completely falls apart after the forest temple. Not that it didn't have fuck ups prior to that point, but shit becomes an exercise of patience after that.

>>9440065
The obligatory "AoL is the best Zelda" snowflake maverick thread is over here >>9439334

>>9440078
>"AoL is the best Zelda"
As far as game design philosophy goes, nothing comes close in the entire franchise.

>>9440103
Exactly. AoL is not really a Zelda game.

>>9439623
Because it looked stupid

>>9439629
no test

>>9439623
overrated shit game, borring and the whole game is just a "uh colect this for epic useless items". it falls into the starfox adventure territory, vast worlds to explore but nothing to do, the fight sequences are borring af and its just borring overall

>>9440126
No, the rest of the franchise aren't really zelda games. Especally after Aonuma took over and shit quickly went full bizarro.

Why is /vr/ incapable of having intelligent or meaningful discussions about The Legend of Zelda? Zelda threads are some of the fucking worst on this board. It's impossible to discuss this series without some schizo going on about Aonuma, Zelda II, or how the games they played as a kid are all good while the games they played as a jaded teenager with zero friends are bad.

>>9440283
Funny enough I was 12 when OoT came out and it never really clicked with me. On the other hand, I loved Wind Waker when I was 15.

>>9440285
Wait, I was even older. 17 when Waker came out in 2003.

>>9439625
>as fun as tetra seems they immediately sap of her personality when she turns into a princess
she's in shock at first, but still has her personality in the final battle

>>9440298
Wow.
No she doesn't.

>>9440286
Ok boomer

>>9440316
Why do you even post here if you were too young to experience the fucking early 00s firsthand?

>>9440315
yeah she does

>>9440315
She clearly does.

>>9439623
Because that is what they delivered but this is what was promised: https://youtu.be/SvE3yJv3fm0

>>9440320
>>9440326
Blooming with mischievous, thieving and bossy personality.

>>9439957
Yea neither was Mario Kart double dash because they literally were forcing reviewers who had already published reviews to re asses and review the review to give better scores (I believe it was Fran Mirebella III). I know the industry was fake and gay already but that was a real in your face moment. So, I’m sure you can find acclaim for the game, but as far as being there, selling the game at an electronics boutique, nah this game was bought up for that pre order bonus. Which is now worth at least twice this game. I was in horror after they switched art directions, I still made sure to pre order for the OOT disc and I would imagine that had a huge helping hand in selling copies if you are about to quote numbers. I can’t think of another game pre order bonus that has ever been better.

>>9440343
To each their own. Wind Waker is still my favorite 3D Zelda and I’m 36. I always liked that it had a more fleshed out story compared to the N64 Zelda games.

>>9439623
it's not so bad it's not worth a playthrough. even two in fact, due to the change in outfit as a reward. and when the Wii U remaster came out that's easily at least one more play.

check out the randomizer

>>9439623
Long pointless sailing scenes of nothing interrupted by inane random encounters that just fuck with you when you're trying to get where you're going.
Clumsy ocean implementation
Dumbed down key-item routines

>>9439926
TP is a better game than snooz waker and it's trash QTE combat.

>>9439623
Because you wanted next gen ocarina of time

>back when
who is this guy

>>9439623
>>9439623
>>9439623

Because you realized something was wrong

>poorly paced opening
>terrible forced introductory stealth level
>long unskippable cutscene
>overly explaining dialogue about EVERYTHING
>first boss is underwhelming
>loads of misdirection, islands don't feel fleshed out
>actual island hopping is "cool" but was done better in older games i.e. Ratchet & Clank desu

The game is just not very good. Its not the worst Zelda game, but its certainly one of the more overrated titles. The art style is okay, not particularly mad about the way they wanted the game to look. The fact that its just not very much fun is kind of why I dislike it. Its also the only Zelda game I've never fucking finished.

>>9440351
I may find it to be a great game if I ever play it. I’ve heard both sides of arguments on here. But it did kill interest for me in the series and haven’t played one since they released this. I’m just really bitter we never got spaceworld. Twilight princess didn’t and still doesn’t look very good to me. Idk why.

>>9439623
You were a sheep. You probably still are.

>>9440164

Nowhere near as bad Starfox Adventure, but I agree it does have those moments where you catch yourself thinking, "what am I doing exactly?"

>>9440576
yes its better than sfa but it has the same feeling, at least for me

>>9440565
>first boss is underwhelming
That's literally every 3D zelda.

For me it's because this was the game on when my uncle molested me

>>9440565
It's probably the best Zelda game of all time

>>9439623
I personally didn’t like at all the triforce hunt quest.
Also I don’t remember any dungeons to be that memorable.
Last thing is to waste too much time sailing, because not enough well positioned TP.

>>9441037
>It's probably the best Zelda game of all time
so the bar is set pretty low I see

Because all Zelda games suck.