/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9429902
>says it's the best
>posts the best version
You had one job, OP... and you got it done

>>9429902
I definitely found it much more instantly enjoyable to play than aLttP.

>>9429902
I like the game and the full embrace of the item button assignment mechanic (letting you even swap your sword for another tool), but otherwise the game is only more "advanced" as any game released with the advantage of 2 years of industry evolution would be.
And I think the heavy limits in depiction of space and scale that came with the system work against it in the same measure than its best new ideas opened it up (the jumping mechanic is probably the most dramatic and interesting one). A full fourth-gen Zelda released in the later years of the SNES would have been interesting though.

>>9429902
This is what I've always said. In fact, LA is so good it shouldn't be blemished with the Zelda brand at all.

>>9429978
Zelda is the greatest series

>>9429978
But if it wasn't a Zelda you couldn't claim it's the best Zelda and feel special anon. Same with AoL

>>9429978
I think this same thing about Zelda 2 as well

>>9429987
This also tomato is my favorite fruit.

>>9429902
>quicker tutorial segment than ALTTP
>each dungeon has its own music
>lots of NPCs to give the world some personality
>interesting plot/setting that also ties well with video games
>very interconnected world that still has space to have a few quirky enclosed areas (rapids, desert)
>seashells as a perfect exploration reward: desirable end goal (level 2 sword) but don't have to find each and every shell autistically; once you get the sword the rest of the shells turn into token amounts of money
>minigames that aren't just about having good luck like the chest and digging games in ALTTP (I'll give that the archery one was good)
>doghouse world glitch is total kino
>no weird irrelevant bullshit items like the cape (though you might view this as a negative)
>every screen is its complete unit, instead of the weird sometimes scrolling bullshit in ALTTP (also a matter of preference)
>concise and meaty feeling attacking effects, when the enemy flies across the room after being hit by red tunic piece of power L2 sword, you just know he's dead as shit
>made in a time when they were making ZELDA the best it can be, not "zelda with a gimmick" like every one after OoT
The messages when bumping into rocks and crystals are dumb as hell though, translator went full retard when replacing 1 box of text with multiple

Dunno only played the German meme version.

>>9429948
>muh slow and sluggish menu nostalgia

Just dropping in to second that I agree, Links Awakening is the best 2D Zelda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdV-X30ZqZs

>>9429902
It’s too much of a stretch as Link to the Past is better with more advanced mechanics.
Don’t like it? Well I guess that’s opinions for you. These threads are almost as boring as the constant super Mario bros 3 versus super Mario world threads. Fucking pointless.

>>9429902
>i don't think it's too much of a stretch to declare Link's Awakening the best game in the series

nah

zelda is also one of those series that works far, far better in 3D

>>9430136
And MM is the best 3D Zelda. By lightyears.

>>9430214
This.

>>9430189
This is one gay and zoomerish opinion.

>>9430162
>advanced mechanics
no?

ah link awakening, from a time when link wasnt a gay twink

>>9430014
>The messages when bumping into rocks and crystals are dumb as hell though, translator went full retard when replacing 1 box of text with multiple

This game flaw got me into coding. I attempted to remove it with a gameshark code without success. Nowadays there is a patch to disable it.

>>9430214
>>9430216
Not retro but BOTW is the only 3D Zeldo that didn’t bore me to tears

>>9430239
I see you just tried to ask a question. The answer is yes.

>>9430358
Yeah BotW is great, I hope the sequel lives up
MM is truly something special too
WW is like comfort food
OoT is pretty basic but still it's still fantastic
SS I don't love but it's got some of the best dungeons in the whole franchise, Ancient Cistern specifically is excellent
I don't care for Twilight Princess tho

>>9430358
I love all of them but OoT and BoTW are the only 3D Zeldas that get straight to the point and don't have tedious bullshit

>>9429902
I think LttP has better late game dungeons, but overall LA is just such an easily accessible game that it probably makes it the best.

>>9430214
Nope. You're just parroting what your favourite youtuber said.
MM is maybe 4th best.

It is also my favourite Zelda, yes. It got almost everything right and has a lot of soul.

>>9429992
This also I like big butts and I cannot lie

>>9429902
ALTTP is much better paced and closer to Zelda 1 in that regard and the open-endedness, MUCH better music and atmosphere anyway and more iconic bosses and the best Master Sword scene ever. LA feels more like a joke game and marks the point where Zelda became a puzzle orgy with slow execution. Also a lot of teething problems like with the jump ability

No chance, not objectively

Comparing 2D and 3D directly is also silly. OoT is literally a different galaxy and dimension

>>9430214
This. /thread

Most OOT fans will get butt hurt when you tell them this. Had some gay Gamestop employee try debating this with me one time and all he could say was "Man but it was the first 3d Zelda I played"

Me: "Doesn't mean it was the best. Majora's Mask always had more soul and purpose at the end of the day. Never have I ever played a game that was that deep for a kid's game"

Is the Switch remake a good version?

Never played any GB Zeldas and I generally don't like the 3D ones.

>>9431318
I hate both N64 Zelda games but MM the most because it's fucking retardant cancer.

>>9431331
yeah, they remastered the soundtrack, the game scrolls seamlessly and there's no screen to screen transition like the original. i think the artstyle is great, everything is like a toy and you staring down at your toys and playing with them.

>>9431331
It looks and sounds like shit but the gameplay is better. Pick your poison

>>9429978
based

>>9429902
I disagree because I like both Zelda 2 and 3 more. No, I will not elaborate.

Rent free.

>>9429948
GB version > GBC version
I don't like censored shit

>>9430080
which is the best

>>9429902
the oracle games are so much better though

>>9432206
lol what part of gbc got censored
>>9432235
i love the oracle games but im curious why you think this

>>9432240
>i love the oracle games but im curious why you think this
well the obvious answer is that there's just more to it
but a more specific thing is that LA has a lot of constant item switching almost every screen of every dungeon whereas the oracle games have more thoughtfully designed areas
also that shit where locked/breakable/etc blocks opens an unskippable multi-box text dialogue every time you brush up against them and the attack/defense powerups that do the same

>>9429902
Link's Awakening is too full of references to other Nintendo games. It feels like a fangame. I guess for some people it enhances the idea that Koholint is a dream, but I'd just prefer a fantasy setting that is less immersion breaking.

As far as pure gameplay goes, LA is pretty tight. The only complaints I can think of are unskippable text boxes and having to swap items frequently.

>>9430992
Disagree, LttP is the worst paced Zelda game prior to OOT

>>9431318
Majora’s mask most definitely does not have more purpose or soul than oot. This is an objectively wrong take.

>>9429983
I feel like Mario is their strongest franchise when it comes to actual high quality games with stellar gameplay. Though there's a lot of shovelware Mario titles too.

>>9430162
>super Mario bros 3 versus super Mario world threads
These are the best threads and always have been.

>>9429902
that's not the hot take you think it is.

>>9432387
Go back

>>9430358
>>9430402
But... BoTW is extremely tedious and boring? Did we play the same game?

>>9431331
It's worse in every way.

>>9432419
Well you also type like a faggot so makes sense.

>>9431331
It plays better, it looks beautiful and it was an amazing experience.

>>9429985
This
>>9429902
Dumbasses, it's just a cute minigame.

Twin Peaks inspiration is the main point of the game, and it's far better acomplished at the actual best game of the franchise, Majora's Mask.

>>9430657
You are omegazoomer brainroted if you think people like MM because of Youtubers.

It's always been a fan favorite, even though it was more of an "underdog" before. It was split between the dumb kids who got filtered by the time system, and the people who got to enjoy the game and considered it a great game.

>>9431318
Damn what a tough guy you are, he probably cried after that too...

Kys you cringe fucking faggot.

>>9430214
>MM
>best
Felt like a bad romhack of OoT with a terrible time mechanic added on top.

>>9429902
>i don't think it's too much of a stretch to declare Link's Awakening the best game in the series
Link's Awakening is disqualified from being the best Zelda due to its pathetically low difficulty level and how you constantly have to enter the menu to swap items. Try again. I'll admit it's top 10 though.

>>9432487
>Felt like a bad romhack of OoT
Imagine calling MM a bad romhack of OoT when it technically and artistically outdoes OoT in every single way.
>a terrible time mechanic
The time mechanic is great. But sadly you can't wrap your brain around its simple mechanics because you're retarded.

>>9432514
Stop the autistic screeching faggot, no one liked that dumb ass time mechanic.

>Imagine calling MM a bad romhack of OoT when it technically and artistically outdoes OoT in every single way.
OoT is a believable world and MM is a shitpost in video game form.
There is so much weird shit and the way map layout is questionable as well.

>>9432547
>no one liked that dumb ass time mechanic
I bet you can't even explain what's bad about it, you pathetic brainlet.
>MM is a shitpost in video game form
I don't see how that works against it

>>9432547
>no one liked that dumb ass time mechanic.

I do, i like it when games force me to make decisions about what to do. Something like BOTW bores me to tears because i don't have to make decisions about anything, i just have to wander from waypoint to waypoint and consume content after content like i'm playing a superhero game. There's no pressure.

>>9432425
You love having only 2 buttons for items? No way, fag.

>>9432269
Ages is where more to it is detrimental i think. you constantly jump back and forth between two time periods to traverse the overworld.
of course Awakening doesn't do that, but even then Seasons doesn't tend to have that going on much either. where you just flip between seasons and solve like a block puzzle, and then you're free to travel through an area in any season from then on. i also like Season's overworld being roughly modeled after Zelda 1

>>9432464
>it's far better acomplished at the actual best game of the franchise, Majora's Mask.
hard disagree. MM 100% gets too much praise for a lukewarm experiment. it's not Twin Peaks inspired, LA is.

>>9429902
Aonuma took the wrong lessons from this game and basedified the series after MM.

>>9432240
The mermaid that lost her necklace in the US release lost her bikini top in the JP release, and the hippo art model was originally nude and would cover up with a towel when you walked in. Both the GB and GBC versions were censored like that though, so either anon is German (only the GBC German release was censored if I'm remembering right), really cares about the stone tablets being changed to owl statues for some reason, or just straight up hasn't played the game at all

>>9432206
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4672/
definitive version

>>9432464
>>9432621
Why do Japanese devs like Twin Peaks so much?
>Mizzurna Falls
>Deadly Premonition
>Silent Hill
>Link's Awakening

>>9432105
Ew

>>9432932
I think it mostly just proved that there are alternatives to the standard fucking three-part hollywood hero story arc. You can literally just throw interesting characters and character dynamics at people, with a sprinkle of mystery and implied secrets, and people will get hooked on it like drugs.

>>9429902
>i don't think it's too much of a stretch to declare Link's Awakening the best game in the series.
I don't think it's too much of a stretch to declare you a GBA* kid who played this as your first Zelda game and have extreme bias towards it due to nostalgia.

*that's right, the GBA, not even the OG Gameboy.

>>9433069
Retard

>>9433072
right here pal

>>9433069
>I don't think it's too much of a stretch to declare
I don't think it's too much of a stretch to declare the Zelda you played when you were 12 years old the best game in the series.

>>9433069
first one was Ocarina of Time

>>9432932
It was fairly popular over in Japan at the time
Why? It's a good show

>>9432932
Some early Megami Tensei had some Twin Peaks influence too. Specifically Persona 1 and 2. Pretty sure Hideo Kojima has also said it inspired him, though I can't remember any blatant Twin Peaks shit in Metal Gear or Snatcher

>>9433091
Unironically true, I played Twilight Princess when I was like 13 (first one I'd finished, only played a bit of OoT prior) and I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on this board who thinks it's the best one.

>>9432932
>>9433068
>>9434048
>>9434662
Twin Peaks was fucking massive in Japan for a long time, way longer than it was in the US. FWWM tanked in the US and most of the world. In Japan where it was released earlier, it was a blockbuster. There were Twin Peaks sponsorships in JP, Twin Peaks merch. As a result, it had way more cultural staying power than in the US. Children grew up watching Twin Peaks. Adults were inspired by it. In America, it wasn't reassessed until the late-2000s so there was very little/marginal influence on game devs until that point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3acm7j9k_1w

>>9434662
>Hideo Kojima
If it's popular and it's from the west you can be dead sure that he was inspired by it

>>9430014
>doghouse world glitch
back in my day we had the select warp glitch. it's good to see some vestige of that remains in the GBC version.

>>9434674
these adverts are incredible

>>9430358
BotW has good graphics, but the best 3D one is Majora, followed by OoT, and the rest are pretty much crap.

>>9432269
>also that shit where locked/breakable/etc blocks opens an unskippable multi-box text dialogue every time you brush up against them and the attack/defense powerups that do the same
That's only in the GBC (DX) version. Original Link's Awakening let's you skip that shit with B. Also has faster menus.

>>9432276
Zoomer opinion. We didnt have fangames that werent super nazi bros kind of stuff back then. Please dont post again, fucking child.

>>9429902
This is a very nostalgia influenced opinion

>>9436151
Cringe

>>9436151
I never said otherwise...?

>>9435560
the OG is the only game i could reasonably speedrun due to the select button warp

>>9435596
You enjoy boring bullshit and nonsensical tedium

I feel like the LA crowd is just pure cope, there's no way anybody actually thinks this game is better than the oracle series, there's so much less to do

>>9438041
why would you even argue more to do makes something better. games can end you know, then you put them down and play something else.

LA is incredible, although I never really considered it superior to LTTP because it regurgitates a lot of stuff from that game and is, of course, technically inferior. They're about equal in my mind.

>>9438250
If two games are more or less equal in every way, except one game has more content and the content is good, that game wins. It's very simple.

>>9438315
I'd argue that OoA regurgitates LttP way worse, considering it has the exact same mirror world gimmick. I'm not even sure what you think LA 'regurgitates' that isn't just standard Zelda fare.

>>9438315
in LTTP the walls are cracked, in LA you can dowse walls to determine which are faulty and can be destroyed.
in LA you can equip two items and use them in conjunction to achieve a new ability.
-you can store and playback three ocarina/flute songs
-there's a secret collectible hidden throughout the game world to find
-the map you bring up lets you select specific squares and see more info

there's a ton of stuff LA does, i didnt just pull it being better out of my ass

>>9438375
>I'm not even sure what you think LA 'regurgitates' that isn't just standard Zelda fare.
Revisionism or senility?

>>9438375
no, more is not better.
LA is a tight package and it doesn't become worse because another game comes out aping a lot of stuff and having more content.

>>9438395
Why don't you explain what you think it regurgitated instead of being a faggot?

>>9438402
>tight package
Meaningless language used by the same retards who like when modern games get 'streamlined'. Kill yourself.

>>9438410
it's not meaningless fucking idiot.
LA is consistently good with no point in the game dragging. there's no 'go to play the game Remember THAT Part'.
fuckin' tool.

>>9438436
Same thing with Oracle of Seasons. Ages admittedly has that agonizing Goron mountain segment.

>>9435607
For years I wondered what the fuck people were bitching about until I learned they'd only played the Color version of the game.

>>9438405
Just off the top of my head, the chicken weather vane thing.

>>9438490
You mean some graphic that you can't interact with?

>>9438506
Embarrassing goalpost shifting, and you don't even remember the game. You play an ocarina to resurrect the bird that you can use as an item, it's the same thing as LTTP.

>>9438532
Incredible. You actually just proved that you yourself never played Link's Awakening, yet you project that like the commie retard that you are. There is no bird in LA that is involved with the ocarina/flute. You automatically assumed that because the same "chicken weather vane thing" exists in both games. I sincerely hope you kill yourself.

>>9438543
You suck so much why am I even bothering
https://youtu.be/7KeiuTSknes?t=12993

>You suck so much why am I even bothering

>>9438554
That moment I realized I was always right to spit on the gbc remake.

>>9438554
They do pretty different things with the idea. A better example would probably be using the mushroom to make magic powder.

>>9438609
Of course he isn't going to actually use a real, reasonable example. He's a communist who wants to destroy all discussion of anything that is not outrage.

>>9438558
were you abused by your father as a child?

>>9438684
No, you?

>someone has a different opinion about a video game, they must be a communist

>>9438710
It's more meaningless quibbles that only serve to muddy the waters.

>>9438609
There are many, many examples, Turtle Rock being another one.

>>9433091
When I hit 12 I got MM and I would lie if I say I didn’t love it but my personal favorites were Link’s Awakening & alttp.
Well desu I’ve appreciated most games of the serie even the ones on the NES but I stoped getting interested with that serie with Skyward Sword (shit wiimote) and I truly think Botw is a curse to that serie.

In term of 3D Zelda games I guess yes I consider MM slightly more interesting than OoT, and both of those game made me happier than the games that came after.

Link's Awakening is overrated shit
>walk into a room and walk into a rock or pot "YOU NEED TO HAVE THE POWER GLOVE EQUIPPED IN ORDER TO LIFT THIS." You get this message. Every. Fucking. Time. Also when you get that sword attack enhancement you get a message about what it does. Every. Fucking. Time.
>Nintendo is retarded: The gameboy has 2 buttons like the NES, so lets make LA as if had 6 buttons like an SNES controller. All the player will have to do is swap out items from the menu 14,000 times for each dungeon. From bomb, to shield, the boomerang, to power glove, to feather
The gameplay is just so tiring.

>>9439274
the island theme is gay and doesn't fit well with the otherwise medieval style of the series and the items used in the game. the inclusion of other nintendo characters felt off, and they couldn't even bother to make an original logo instead of straight up reusing ALttP's boxart? this is to say nothing of the text boxes like you mentioned and other annoying shit. i honestly don't know why so many people suck this game off. the oracles were vastly better and the game doesn't hold a candle to Zelda 1, ALttP or OoT but it's treated like the second coming of the jew. fuck LA.

>>9429902
oot>awakening>ages>seasons>link to the past>adventure of link>minish cap>legend of zelda snes remake>majora mask>wind waker>spirit tracks>twilight princess>link between worlds>skyward sword>botw>PH

>>9439285
>the inclusion of other nintendo characters felt off,
I completely agree with this. When Link goes 2D and is jumping on goombas and warping down pipes it just reeks of some fat Nintendo fanboy on the creative team thinking it's a good idea.

>>9439274
you can skip the text boxes in the OG, and the menu pausing and unpausing is very snappy too.

if that's all the criticism you have, then yeah i'm thinking LA is underrated.

>>9438041
i like la more than three oracle, i like the characters and locations more, add the twin peaks vibe is unmatched. the oracles are great still, basically filtering la through the influence of oot

>>9439274
>>9439285
excuse me sir do you have a social worker we can call?

>>9439328
>and the menu pausing and unpausing is very snappy too.
You still have to switch tons of shit around constantly. It's a bad game design. They could have done this in the original LoZ but they didn't because they knew it would be stupid.
>if that's all the criticism you have, then yeah i'm thinking LA is underrated.
Yeah, because why should smooth, fun gameplay matter in a game. Kys faggot.

>>9439357
you have two buttons, being expected to press them to do shit is not a burden

>>9429902
I didnt have a snes but I had an NES and gameboy. Didnt play link to the past til several years later and it seemed very crude and inferior to link's awakening. LA and the n64 Zeldas are my favorites.

>>9439364
It's not a burden, retard. But it's fucking stupid to add all these different mechanics (jumping, lifting heavy things) that necessitate the need to constantly change your items. They wanted the extra shit from LTTP in an og LoZ control scheme and it failed horribly.

>>9431331
I really hate the plastic artstyle, not a fan of the remastered music, and if I remember right it had some weird technical problems like massive framerate drops at odd times (totally unacceptable for a top down game with gamecube/3ds tier graphics)

>>9439210
>There are many, many examples
There are maybe three, and you named one. Also, Kanye was right.

>>9439394
Yes, Kanye IS right, but it's no reason to deny that LA was intended to be Portable LTTP

>>9439398
Kanye speaks to jewish censorship, and LA is censored.

>>9430992
>better music
probably, yeah
>more iconic bosses
maybe
>atmosphere
nah, awakening definitely wins that department. LttP feels like yet another medieval castle vibe. link's awakening has a castle too, yes, but it's a very unique world overall with weird characters, places, plot, etc. It's got a beach with palm trees, which didn't pop up in too many high fantasy medieval games/books at the time. its got a fucking crocodile that really wants dog food for some reason, it's got a sleeping whale in a fucking egg at the top of a mountain, there's a village full of talking animals, a weird but not exactly subtle plot twist, a castle that seems to be totally abandoned for reasons unknown (except maybe explained by the plot twist), it's inspired by Twin Peaks, and a bunch of other weird shit. its way different from anything zelda did before or after it, except maybe majora's. also LttP was where the game became a puzzlefest, but puzzles are fine with me anyway.
I like LttP, i'm not delusional or contrarian enough to call it a bad game, but Awakening was a really cool and unique game that i don't think will ever happen again unfortunately

>>9439375
>failed horribly
I just had the sword and feather selected most of the time and then quickly brought out stuff like the lifting bracelet or whatever else I needed with ease.
Maybe you should just stop being so bad at videogames.

>>9439420
>I just had the sword and feather selected most of the time and then quickly brought out stuff like the lifting bracelet or whatever else I needed with ease.
Ok retard, we all believe you.

Why do you think it's better than the Oracle games, out of interest?

>>9432330
Nice arguments you got there. You really convinced me.

>>9438532
What's embarrassing is the mods and their obsequious devotion to aliens who want them dead. Kill yourselves, mods.

>>9439426
look how nice that map is. perfect balance of land and water. lots of open space, but also nooks and crannies to explore. so much more vibrant and alive than LA or ages.

>>9439420
so you're admitting that the changing of items is annoying and as such you force yourself to beat most of the game with just 2 items? you're not helping your case here.

>>9439426
To clarify, I've seen the posts in the thread already, I was just hoping somebody could come up with maybe some more quantifiable reasons why LA > OoS and OoA.

>>9439437
Holodrum is really good, but I don't think Labrynna is a slouch either.

>>9439423
Bitchnigger, what? Do you seriously fucking struggle with occasionally selecting a different item? How is it actually different from occasionally selecting a different item in other Zelda games? The Roc Feather gives you great mobility in general for fighting and getting around, there's no point in having the shield selected when you can just avoid the projectiles they'd block anyway.

I hope you get raped a horse with genital warts and die from the injuries for being so fucking useless and retarded, and in front of your parents too.

>>9439438
No, I never said it was annoying.

>>9439448
>I hope you get raped a horse with genital warts and die from the injuries for being so fucking useless and retarded, and in front of your parents too.
The mods are going to ban you for this for 'calling for violence' or some gay shit. Kill the mods and their families.

>>9439448
>Bitchnigger, what?
woman moment

>>9439442
LA is tight with very few flaws. I loved the oracles games when they came out but they are both a little bloated and have moments that aren't that great. Basically the same reason why the original story of most series are more memorable than their bigger, better sequels.

>>9439448
>Bitchnigger, what?
woman moment

>>9439448
>Do you seriously fucking struggle with occasionally selecting a different item?
You have to do it constantly. Not occasionally. That's the difference. In Zelda 1 your shield was built in so there was no need to equip it to a button. And most people kept the boomerang or bow for the other button that wasn't your sword. For LA you have to equip your shield when you need it, then switch to the feather, then to the bomb, then the power glove, etc. It's just too cumbersome and hinders all the gameplay. Everytime you enter a new screen in a dungeon you have to make changes, then you have to change back for combat, then the next screen has other changes to make.
>I hope you get raped a horse with genital warts and die from the injuries for being so fucking useless and retarded, and in front of your parents too.
14 year old bleddit spacer detected.

lol

>>9439420
damn are you me, i did the same shit, its really not hard

>>9439274
So many smooth brains who only played the buggy-ass GBC port.

lttp sucks

>>9430189
You're retarded.

>>9429902
True the best 2d Zelda but the Oracles can stand up to it, comparing it to 3d Zelda is retarded, I really don't get the hype over lttp played around the same time thanks to the gba port and the gba backwards compatibility and it was way worse than any GBC Zelda, still better than the disappointment Mc was

Zoomers hate LTTP and love Links Awakening because it has waifushit. It appeals to the ironic weeb twitter zoomer secondary.

>>9440162
I guess that's why they consider OoT the greatest game of all time too.

>>9439426
>I was just hoping somebody could come up with maybe some more quantifiable reasons
jumping back and forth through time in Ages with an animation playing each time is much more annoying than simply pressing start and selecting an item in order to progress the overworld.
there's that part where you play a ridiculous rhythm minigame too, i always remember that part when i go to replay it, and then decide to play LA instead or Seasons

>>9439375
>It's not a burden
cool, then i guess we can agree LA is great then

>>9429902
I haven't really played Zelda as much, but I feel similarly about Super Mario Land 2. Somehow they were able to fine tune the key/core mechanics in the Game Boy successors and make them feel even tighter and more precise than the original console games they were based on.

>>9441096
that's the Wario series right? been meaning to give them an earnest go

What I liked most about Zelda 4 was all the caves. Not the dungeons, just those little hidden holes and caves and tunnels, with that kind of mysterious music playing, just gives you this feeling that you're lost really far away from civilization somewhere, it's nice.

>>9441863
>Zelda 4
Zelda what?

>>9440353
That hideous Goron dancing game. Fuck whoever thought it was a good idea.

>>9442072
Zelda 4. I'm sorry, are you retarded? Are you a downs baby? Do you need your little hand held?

>>9442131
I'm not retarded. I don't live in your delusion where a game named "Zelda 4" exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Legend_of_Zelda_media

>>9441863
what makes caves even cooler is that you can get on top of them and you'll find they're all connected together in the subworld and you can quickly run from one side of the overworld to the other by walking over from one cave to another before you hop back down and exit

>>9442131
>autist who must categorize games numerically calling someone else retarded

>>9442131
>>9442260
>>9442916
I understand Zelda 4, even Majora's Mask being Zelda 6 is alright but it gets complicated after MM. Like do we count Four Swords? Are the Oracles just Zelda 7 or Zelda 7 and 8?

>>9442961
i figured the point of numbers was for mainline titles. so oracles dont get a number, four swords neither, and not the DS games either
Wind Waker is 7, TP is 8 (.8), SS is Zelda 9, and BotW is the 10th Zelda game

>>9443032
What constitutes a mainline title if you're willing to write off handheld games but still include Link's Awakening

>>9443045
i think we can both agree that Phantom Hourglass, Minish Cap, Four Swords, are spinoff titles that came as the more gandiose console releases came.
A Link Between Worlds is a throwback is it not? it came the next year after SS did, which was obviously a mainline entry.

>>9429902
fuck the GBC version

>>9430014
>very interconnected world that still has space to have a few quirky enclosed areas (rapids, desert)
It's one of the more railroady maps in the series, 2dwise. Everything is blocked off it seems.

I'm in the second dungeon
just beat the mini boss and now I'm stuck.
can't move the blocks where the stairs case is and have no idea where to go to or what to do???

>>9445390
Filtered by Zelda riddle.

>>9445390
Second dungeon as the infamous kill these three enemies in order puzzle, idk which one you are taking about though

>>9445717
yeh first the rabbit and skeleton last but I didn't reach any skeleton or rabbit yet so how do I get there

>>9446484
if you're going to ask some fag on /vr/, why don't you just look up a walkthrough? holy shit kids today are retarded, just play the game man.

>>9446484
>>9445390
where are you so far

>>9446641
like I said I just beat that first boss in the dungeon that lets you warp back to the entrance and I don't know where to go from there. everything seems locked or closed.
I even considered bringing the dog home first but think that's unrelated so I won't.

>>9442916
>must
LMAO you're the one having a panic attack over it. I couldn't car less what you call it, it's obvious to everyone what "Zelda 4" is and has been for decades. If your brain is so scrambled you can't figure it out that's a big "you problem".

>>9447107
LA was the first spinoff zelda, it has nothing in common thematically with the other ones. If anything OoT is Zelda 4.

>>9447119
lmao
guess what zoomzoom, I was actually alive and "of age" when Zelda 4 was released, and everyone called it Zelda 4. You weren't born yet so yeah you have no fuckin clue

stay mad

>>9447126

>>9445390
>getting stuck in a game a 7-year-old is capable of beating
I'm pretty sure this is bait.

>>9447126
>everyone called it Zelda 4
No we didn't. We may have referred the first three games as Zelda 1-3 but I think most of us stopped referring them numerically after Link's Awakening/Ocarina of Time.

All of these threads comparing LA to the Oracle games almost had me typing "Oracle of Time" instead of "Ocarina of Time."

>>9447563
We absolutely called it Zelda 4, zoomy.

>>9445390
>>9446996
>>9447548
I remember getting stuck at this exact point as a kid and restarting the entire game because I thought I had screwed myself over.

Chances are you missed a key earlier in the dungeon, and chances are it's the one you get from killing the Shy Guys.

Oh, and
>>9446996
>I even considered bringing the dog home first but think that's unrelated so I won't.
Not only is it unrelated, if you try doing this the owner will just ask you to "take it for a walk". You need the dog to enter the dungeon, so the game won't allow you to get rid of it yet.

>>9447680
Who the fuck are you calling zoomer? I was 4 years old when LA came out in 93.

>>9447702
Bow-wow won't go home until after you've cleared Bottle Grotto.

>>9447686
true
i didn't kill them because I thought it's impossible and you can only avoid them

so I guess I'll need to stab their backs somehow
thanks

>>9447801
>i didn't kill them because I thought it's impossible and you can only avoid them
Yep. Exactly what I thought as a kid too, which is why I knew this was what you got stuck on. It's not super apparent how to kill them.

Why do shitheads refuse to look this shit up on Google, Gamefaqs, or the fandom wiki?

>>9447941
I can rl you why
because I don't want to spoiler myself which can easily happen when you have to skim over a large text
also it's a cheap way to keep this thread alive because I'm currently playing the game but haven't read every single comment yet so I'm bumping it and the fucking walkthrough doesn't know why I'm stuck while I can specifically ask another human being here who also enjoyed the game
why do autists like you get so butt hurt and triggered when you want to talk about how to do stuff with another fellow human being
of course you can look up every guide or look on YouTube buy finding that specific part which probably only takes 3 seconds to beat vs spoilers and getting to that part in the first place

maybe it's also a nostalgia thing you can't understand if you are a zoomer but I bought this game on release and back then we would talk about games on the school yard and one guy knew how to beat that boss and another one knew this and you could just talk about how to beat stuff so yes it's more fun to share this instead being a complete loner and just looking at guides and if you hate human interactions so much and hate people talking you might want to leave?

>>9448354
>why do autists like you get so butt hurt and triggered
Because I'm projecting myself onto you and your inability to do anything remotely smart (which includes using punctuation) doesn't reflect what I would do and it's pissing me off.

>>9448387
sorry but I was taking a shit and typing on my phone and the keyboard fucks up punctuation plus you are an idiot so why put any effort into a reply for you plus I think English is your native language and only language you know while it's my third

Oracle of Ages and Seasons are both better than Link's Awakening.

>>9448436
why
they came way too late
feel like a rom hack that uses the same engine
and why the fuck did they have to release 2 new Zelda games at the same time???
red pill me on the stories

>>9448432
>why put any effort into a reply >>9448354
for you

>>9438460
A lot of people didn't buy a Game Boy until Pokemon or because DX was created as a tie-in for Ocarina of Time's release window. So, the last Zelda they played before this was usually ALttP, and missed out on the original Game Boy's kino like original LA and Wario Land 1, which explains their crappy evaluations of it, yeah. Not even including the babbies that got a 5th gen console and GBC as their first consoles.

>>9448625
My experience was slightly different. I got the GB Link's Awakening because I couldn't always play ALttP with my dad playing it and other games all the time, whenever he's not working.
Will I did think it was cool, I never saw the appeal of the DX when it came out, since I already had the original game.

>>9448436
Ages>Seasons>Awakening

>>9448662
You're not constantly whining about how "LA is soulless unless it's in full color," though. That's the issue: zero criticism of DX is allowed here because it was the first exposure to LA that the typical people defending it had.

>>9434674
I always wanted to get into this series, but opinion seem divided over /tv/. Should I watch it? Is there a poimt where I shpild just drop it?

>>9448740
Yeah, the only things you gain from getting DX over the original is you get an extra, shitty dungeon, and you can use your Game Boy Camera with it.

>>9448761
The mouse photographer miniquest is part of the GB version?

>>9448761
Only worth playing if you like the original, in my opinion. Still a great game at its core because its based on one, but the added tedium to it sucks (considering original LA is one of the least tedious games in the whole series).

>>9448768
The camera shop isn't in the original.

>>9445289
fuck you