/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9418658
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/vrpg/

>>9418659
Don't listen to this faggot. You're about to play the most kino game of all time. Just rub the lamp and fight Diabolos as soon as you can, level his shit up, and you can walk through the game with no random encounters if that's your flavor.

>>9418669
Three-niggas-in-a-row with visual kei characters will never be best anything

>>9418678
sorry that using your brain for once was too hard, go brag about your stupidity elsewhere

>>9418680
>turn-based combat
>brain
It's hated because it's literally the opposite

>>9418658
>and i heard you dont have to grind in 8,
Enjoy your card game

>>9418658
At least give it a try, and actually RTFM.
If it's not for you, then it's not for you, but a lot of people that hate it (at least from what I've seen) just didn't know what the fuck they were doing.

>>9418658
ive been having a blast playing ff9, about to hit disc 4, idk what you mean about getting bored from grinding for abillites. The game is pretty ez and you get a ton of ap just by doing the main storyline and the friendly monsters sidequest.

Also FF9>FF8 100%

>>9418707
thats the card game mentioned in the manual right ? is it fun at least.
>>9418713
i am actually reading the manual right now,is the manual enough to get a good grasp on the mechanics of the game ?

>>9418716
>disc 4
Jesus Christ they didn't even care to compress these games did they?

>>9418716
FF9>FF7 as well. Not sure what 7 is supposed to do better than 9

>>9418725
That's the basics of it. A more in depth strategy guide wouldn't be a bad idea, but there's also a lot of manual in the game itself.

>>9418704
>Bitching about based turn based combat
>In a final fantasy thread
No matter what you do you will never be a woman
>>9418678
Cope

>>9418728
>>9418716
FFVIII>FFVII>FFIX>>>>>>power gap>>>>>>every other FF game

>>9418658
I love FF8 but it also has grinding. You just have multiple two choices for grinding (or three, but one just doesn't work)
You can choose from drawing magic and playing cards. Drawing magic is tedious and if you focus on that you'll probably quit the game, the card game is far more enjoyable. But unless you want to minmax, which I wouldn't recommend for a first run, you really can have some freedom in how to play, since the game is not that hard besides some fights at the end of the game, just don't go around leveling up your characters without making any progress in your items and magic, or you'll eventually hit a wall and the game will become almost impossible to beat.

>>9418704
yep, it sure is isn't it, when you had to grind for hours because you can't figure out strategy
perhaps cookie clicker is more your speed

>>9418964
WRONG.
Get Diablo’s mug ability and be drowned in items that can be refined into magic. Enemies can also be turned into cards, and occasionally drop cards upon defeat. Most bosses drop cards that refine into absurdly over powered items as well. Furthermore there are draw points all over the world that regenerate over time.
Only your crippling autism/adhd is forcing you to immediately try to get 100 of each spell, the game isn’t.
That being said OP, bosses sometimes have GFs (skill teaching summons that are invaluable) that can be drawn from them. Just check bosses for ???? draw slots, and grab them if you don’t have them. It’s a 1 time draw, non of this ‘draw for fifteen minutes’ shit morons like to perpetuate.

>>9418658
>grinding you have to do to unlock the spells
instead of "grinding", why don't you unlock them by progressing through the game as normal you fucking bellend?

>>9419198
You don't unlock spells in F8. You stack them then junction to whatever attributes. Plus magic levels up with you like thunder - thundara - thundaga.

Card modding and item gathering allow you to load up pretty early on, including higher-level magic otherwise not accessible at lower levels.

>>9418658
any chances of them remaking this? i loved that shit as a kid and replayed it not too long ago. but i'm bored out of the turn-based gameplay.

>>9419129
>don't grind that way!
>grind this way isntead!
>but is not grind I swear

>>9419336
How would this game look without turn based combat? Why not just call it FFxvii at that point?

>>9419397
probably something down the line of how their limit breaks work. Squall, Irvine, Zell and to an extent even Selphie require active inputs/decision making to trigger their abilities.

>>9418727
dont think that the game having 4 discs is a bad thing, the main reason why it's 4 discs is because of all the memory the fmv's take up, however they're the best in the FF series and it was a real treat seeing them for the first time. Also besides that the game is just quite large given on how long the story goes on for. But that it isnt a bad thing, it really is 4 discs of pure soul, and as someone who has played FF1, FF4, FF5, FF6, FF7, I can say without a doubt that FF9 is my favoritre and I haven't even finished it yet!

>>9418728
I mean the main thing FF7 has over FF9 is the sci-fi theme, the materia system, and a stronger antagonist.

However I enjoy the Ap ability system in FF9 more and FF9's chocobo questline isnt NEARLY as cancerous as the one in FF7 ( chocobo racing isnt fun at all -_- )

>>9418836
idk how you can say FF8 is better when cavesofnarshe didnt even bother having a page for it.

https://www.cavesofnarshe.com/

>>9418985
It's incredible how effective this image is at shutting down anti-JRPGfags to this day.

>>9419703
>the materia system
How is this good?
>and a stronger antagonist
He is completely twodimensional and looks transgender

>>9418985
>>9419725
>OP forgot to equip the best gear
>therefore, waiting simulator combat is good
Epic picture

>>9418658
Play the remaster, all the remasters from 7 to 9 allow you to turn off combat and make the maximum amount of damage whenever you want.

>>9419369
Literally no grinding, except the gears in your brain while trying to comprehend written language.

>>9419708
Holy cringe! Please tell me this is a troll post

>>9420330
sorry but i dont feel like cheating the game.

You don't have to grind at all
Just make sure your GFs learn the "MAG-RF" abilities and you can turn the items you get from enemies into magic
Maybe spend 1 turn using draw every couple of fights if you really want to

And you should be playing Triple Triad anyway. Not as a grind but for fun. It's the best part of the game.

>>9418716
>Also FF9>FF8 100%

>>9420270
>calls everyone around him a retard
>gets proven to be a retard
Only anti-JRPGfag things.

>>9420493
what are you, a pussy?

>>9420695
>just cheat, what could possibly be the consequence?

>>9420760
>If I use this exploit that the devs built in to streamline the game then China will collapse
uhh okay

>>9418658
Buy the goysoft from steam to make sure that enix gets the money for this squaresoft game.

>>9418659
Based

>>9418727
What in the Hell does spending 15 seconds to
>eject previous cd from console
>remove cd
>place new cd
>slide new cd into console
>load
mean "I DON'T HAVE THE FUCKING TIIIIIIIIIIIMMEEE FOR THIIIIIIIIIISS!!!"
???

>>9418964
Then don't grind. Wow.

>>9420483
why do you think my post is cringe?

>>9420531

does my opinion anger you ff8 fan?

>>9420256
well what i meant was

the materia system is unique and interesting, although some may find lvling materia too be tedious.

However in hindsight now that i think about it , im glad the materia system never came back, so i guess it's not that good

regarding sephiroth, didn't you find any of his backstory too be interesting? also i feel like the rivalry between cloud and sephiroth is stronger than the one between zidane and kuja.

and just because sephiroth has longer hair than the average male doesnt make him look transgender lol

unless you're trying to 100% these games are something you don't really need to grind in any ps1 ff game outside of prepping for super boss

>>9419703
>stronger antagonist.
if you count Kuja as the main antagonist. 100% kuja is just faggier sephiroth without any of the flare that makes sephiroth cool
but garland >sephiroth

>>9422995
>How can ff8 be better when coomers of narshe doesn't even have a dedicated fanfic page for it?
>W-what do you mean my post is cringe?
Cringe

So I am one of those people who really turned around with 8. I think my recent love of the SaGa games has made me more accepting of the changes. I do think it's not without issues though, to basically get where you don't need to Draw anymore does require a fair bit of AP grinding certain enemy mobs so you can level up GF abilities. Also scarcity of certain spells just means you need to spend maybe more time than you'd like casting Draw on a boss.
That said I think it's a good game, it's not the best of the PS1 trilogy but it kind of ranks in a decent spot for me. I also like how believable Squall is as a main character. How he's this no nonsense by the books type soldier who wants to focus on his developement, while being surrounded by people who want to do nothing but goof off.

>>9425827
>to basically get where you don't need to Draw anymore does require a fair bit of AP grinding certain enemy mobs so you can level up GF abilities
Just prioritize learning Card/Card Mod. Even just playing normally you'll learn them by the end of Dollet. The real 'grind' is playing cards, but that's actually pretty enjoyable.

I got to the last boss of FF8 and just couldn't do enough damage and keep myself alive long enough, even after bringing 99 Hero items to be invulnerable and just wail on her.
You need meta knowledge to play/beat this game, you can't just enjoy it.
You need to take tests at the start so you get more money which require game knowledge. You have to know about the card game or drawing. Yes the game tells you but the DEGREE you need it isn't told.
I just wanna chill and level up. This game's biggest problem is monsters leveling with you. Half of an RPG is the encounters and in this game it hurts you.
I like this game, but god damn. I played it blind as a young man and almost beat it but I didn't know half the stuff that's available nowadays...but you need to know it to win. I don't want to read a guide, I just wanna play the game. Reeeee.

>>9425857
The Card/Card Mod thing also still requires a bit of fighting, and getting the Refine abilities for GF's takes some time as I said, but holy shit I agree with you. Triple Triad is the best minigame made in a FF game. I just wish Tetra Master didn't involve a insane manual and explanation to truly understand. I felt like I did once but it's long gone.

>>9426120
You are a bot.