/vr/ - Retro Games

works on my machine

>mfw Stenzek got so triggered by bug reports he closed the issue tracker altogether and anons have to pick up the slack
Does he just have thin skin, or is he legit schizo?

>>9412504
He's such a bitch that he refused to add proper shader support despite shaders basically making or breaking emulators these days. It's only still around because it's easier to use than shitroarch.

>>9412526
I've heard ShaderGlass or ReShade isn't as good as RetroArch is that true?

>>9412526
It technically does have proper shader support. The problem is he opted to copy-paste Dolphin's shader spec rather than RetroArch's for some reason, and since Dolphinfags as a whole have never really cared for shaders, it has a pitifully small amount of them available, and Stenzek doesn't care to port more.

>>9412541
Nobody cares about the basic garbage that comes bundled in. I said proper shaders.

>>9412429
World Cup 98 has sound bug, Chrono Cross sometimes has a graphical glitch when you try select an element, in Spider-Man there's a line of dialogue that won't play ("Thanks lizard") when you go to talk to the lizard in the sewers maze level, there's a line that also won't play on Spider-Man 2 Enter Electro ("using square and circle i can punch and kick" in the tutorial with beast at the beggining of the game), was Captain Commando fixed? There was still glitches last time i checked a few months ago

>>9412554
>World Cup 98 has sound bug
Can you be more specific?
>in Spider-Man there's a line of dialogue that won't play ("Thanks lizard") when you go to talk to the lizard in the sewers maze level
I'll check that if you've got a save file
>there's a line that also won't play on Spider-Man 2 Enter Electro ("using square and circle i can punch and kick" in the tutorial with beast at the beggining of the game)
Checked that and it doesn't happen anymore
>was Captain Commando fixed?
No it's on the list.

>>9412550
I know, I'm just pointing out it COULD have good shaders, but it doesn't because nobody cares to write or port them targeting the Dolphin shader spec. It's only recently it got a port of CRT-Lottes, which is a halfway decent CRT shader but nowhere on the same league as what's available on RetroArch or even ReShade.

>>9412561
>Can you be more specific?
Once you get to the Match Select Menu, the music stops looping and there's a high pitch noise that won't stop until you start the match, i'm using the USA version

Now i checked again on the latest duckstation release and the Spider-Man line now plays how it supposed to

>>9412571
Is there a specific reason for not doing it the RetroArch way? Other than the his familiarity with Dolphin.

>>9412670
Yep I've confirmed that happens. I'll add it to the list, thanks.

>>9412684
Dunno why you deleted that, but most likely it was just that. Stenzek doesn't really care about shaders, so he probably just tacked on the Dolphin spec due to familiarity. He, of course, has huge beef with RetroArch, but I believe that came after, so I doubt it's a case of "evil RetroArch does thing so I must do opposite thing".

https://docs.google com/spreadsheets/d/1H66MxViRjjE5f8hOl5RQmF5woS1murio2dsLn14kEqo/edit#gid=0
https://github.com/stenzek/duckstation/wiki/Difficult-to-Emulate-Games
Have these been consulted?

>>9412717
>He, of course, has huge beef with RetroArch
What the stupid fuck failed to realize is that implementing shader support on his shit would put a thorn on RA's side by giving it proper competition.

>>9412719
Yeah I've been through the spreadsheet and found a few legit issues.

there is a universal glitch where the start-up sound lingers untill the actual game audio starts. might just be a thing with my computer though

>>9412749
Nah that happens in Mednafen as well. It's a problem in a lot of games so I'd have to pick one to be the representative.

>>9412429
Many JP exclusives stop working after ~2 hours of playing, such as Germs, Crime Crackers, Mizzurna Falls.

stop harassing me!

>>9412797
No. You'll own all your emulator's issues, and you'll be happy.

>>9412504
Making free software on the internet is a fast pass to mental instability. You have to deal with retards who expect you to do the same work as a paid team, and they get angry when something doesn't work or a feature is missing.

Remember these two rules:
1. Make things for yourself.
2. Don't engage with retards.

>>9412429
It works

I like the others more because they have more options though

Console hardware is still best because least glitchy

>>9412526
>he doesn't use duckstation in retroarch

>>9413045
Yeah I don't, because it's constantly fucking crashing on its own.

>>9412935
>Console hardware is still best because least glitchy
I dunno, I've found some absurd bugs during my testing that turned out to happen on a real PS1 as well. Did you know RacingGroovy takes over 1 minute to get past the first loading screen because the game is busted and constantly tries to read the memory card? Without the memory card in it takes 10 seconds.

>>9412429
Parappa and UJL (both) gets unplayable in the first level towards the end. Extremely laggy despite running on the lowest (intended) settings.

Silent Hill has some weird nasty crashes and graphical glitches in some cutscenes (one for example is the dahlia scene at the church) if you use hardware renderer instead of software.

>>9413224
No that's caused by using PXGP texture correction.

>>9412749
>start-up sound lingers untill the actual game audio starts.
It does that on real hardware

>>9412935
>Console hardware is still best because least glitchy
you must be lucky if you never had the laser go bad.

>>9412429
I prefer using Beetle PSX core in RA

>>9413224
I recently played through SH1 in Duckstation with Vulkan and PGXP enabled and I had no crashes.

Why a duck motif?

>>9412749
I had that happen in Beetle too but only on some games

>>9412429
>I'm trying to make a comprehensive list of all the bugs
That's a lot of seething and wasting of energy. Just add a normal controller binding menu to your RAshit instead

>>9412429
>Emulating
A PlayStation is pretty cheap.

>>9413708
Why would I want one of those now when I can emulate so effectively? I got rid of mine years ago, no need for that clutter.

>>9413708
You're not getting a cent of my money you reseller parasite.

>>9413728
>>9413729
Soulless

>>9413735
Give up kid.

>>9412429
Has worked very well for me. Played loads of games on it without issue.

>>9413779
Nah it's some middle aged fat fuck desperate to keep selling plastic instead of getting a real job.

>>9412429
idk if this was just a glitch with the rom but mega man 8's credits would not play until i compiled the iso's files together
also castlevania chronicles keeps looping for me on the "would you like to have new save data" screen
aside from those it's been perfect

Ive been using this on switch and the geometry wiggle correction is honestly fucking magic. That and disablijg dithering.

Now playstation games don't look like complete eye cancer!

>>9413708
Probably the most useless console to own

I'm still using epsxe.
Cuckstation ads are cancer.

>>9412536
No, but reshade now is pretty close.

>>9412785
>Mizzurna Falls.
Buggy as fuck, many times I got the same bug with no loading a chunk of the map, you can drive as long as you wish into nowhere then the game hangs out.

>>9413708
Sure a PS1 is cheap to get but not the faggot e-celeb influenced price hiked games

>>9412429
Um Jammer Lammy no joke is difficult due to controller input issues where it is not registering my button presses even at 30fps. I could not pass the 1st stage. It's easily reproduced.

>>9413193
Dude thank God I am not the only one. I thought I was taking crazy pills noticing this issue.

>>9412429
cant map buttons myself on my usb control, only accept autp map and keeps putting the r1 l1 on the r2 l2 buttons

>>9412429
doesnt duckstation hate transparency effects?

>>9414152
what ads?

>>9414858
Probably implying Duckstation threads are made by shills. Ironic, considering the Windows version of ePSXe is itself an ad for the Android version, and said Android version is payware.

>>9413224
I only got past the church by disabling the widescreen hack.

>>9414684
No?

Is the best PS1 emulator I've ever used.

>>9415617
>people bitching about how duckstation is unstable
>they use fucking shitty hacks
kek

>>9414898
i see, shame since pc version has no updates, reason why im using duckstation, but as i said duckstation i have problems mapping buttons and

>>9412536
>I've heard ShaderGlass or ReShade isn't as good as RetroArch is that true?
Yes
If nothing else RA has the best shader support

>>9413708
Not worth it when a lot of games you want to play are considered rare, or like another anon said, hyped up by youtubers, so they're either hard to find or expensive or both. I'm not a collector, I don't need to have them physically, I just want to enjoy them again.

>>9412429
Downsampled Swanstation with a CRT shader is goddamn beautiful. Can't be arsed with the standalone.

>>9412536
Reshade is a cope because it's agnostic of the resolution of emulated games, so any meaningful, unfucked scanline support is fucked up the ass unless you fuck with it a lot

>>9413193
>>9414437
Parappa and UJL have fucky timing baked into the game. They are TERRIBLE 'rhythm' games. Any lag added from emulation and a shitty I/O setup don't help, though.

There's a PS2 emulator with this exact same interface as duckstation. I'm assuming it's by the same person/people.

And that's got 4 CRT filters. Why not duckstation?

>>9412504
Yes he's a schizo. He's such a schizo that he stopped working on the project because people used his *open-source software* to make new software. He won't release the source code for his PS2 Android emulator because he doesn't want people he hates to use it.

>>9412935
>Console hardware is still best because least glitchy
I consider long load times and details smashed by low resolution to be glitches. So console hardware makes every PS1 game glitchy.

wait a fucking minute.

Duckstation has been discontinued?

>>9416961
retard

>>9416962
Stenzek threw a tantrum around the beginning of the year over stupid emudev drama bullshit (he even tried to get his perceived enemies cancelled over it) and development did cease for a few months, but while he did "resume" it eventually, he has stopped development in the form of new features or improving the core, as he literally doesn't want to improve it lest his opponents steal his hard work, and I'm not kidding. Almost all of his commits since his tantrum are basic maintenance such as UI bug fixes and such. He's since moved onto working on PCSX2.

>>9417080
well at least pcsx2 will have updates...i hope

>>9413708
90% of the appeal of emulation is all the enhancements that can't be applied to the hardware itself. overclocking the cpu for a performance boost is a good example.

>>9412429
mednafen is better

>>9416865
Duckstation was the developer's original project. PCSX2 is someone else's project he's working for. He doesn't get to tell them no.

>>9418229
He also worked on Dolphin, but he sperged out one too many times and got kicked out. Same with RetroArch, except there he's gone as far as to claim they've stolen his code and profited from it to the tune of millions. Just a very unpleasant little shit overall, in spite of his talent.

>>9412429
>>9412449
Works on gentoo

The Duckstation is still missing a wireframe mode like the PCSX one, great for studying topology.

>>9418276
Absolutely halal

>>9413728
>This thread
Evidently not, zoomfag
>>9413729
>>9414064
>>9414418
Cope

>>9412429
Tried FFIV on it the other day, and outdoor castle floors flash white constantly.

>>9418391
Where specifically? Do you have screenshots?

>>9418395
In the very beginning. It was like this in the cutscene and still when you move around. It's more of a pulsating whitish-blue than white. Just took a pic, but it actually "flashes" rather than staying this color.

>>9416962
No
It still getting updates
Idk why some anons keeps thinking he stops working on it

>>9418407
What region? NTSC, PAL or JP?

>>9418407
Where's the bug? Your filename is different than mine. Are you using a retroarch core?

>>9418413
NTSC

>>9418450
No, I'm using the standalone Android (free) version of it.

>>9418653
>>9418656
Final Fantasy Chronicles - Final Fantasy IV (USA)? Works fine for me.

>>9418249
How do retroarch make millions?

>>9418720
They don't. His claim revolved around a cloud gaming platform called Piepacker, which uses RetroArch's fork of Duckstation (known as Swanstation) for PS1 emulation, and the fact that they at one point employed a relatively inactive RetroArch contributor. It then came out that Piepacker made a profit in the millions, and Stenzek went absolutely nuclear over it, causing him to connect dots in the most schizo manner possible, so that a cloud service using an open source fork of his open source emulator while employing a RetroArch contributor now equaled RetroArch making millions in his head.

>>9418676
Yep, exactly. What do you think is happening to mine if yours is running perfectly? I need to test some more games on DuckStation, for sure, as I just tried it a couple of weeks ago, but I haven't run into anything like this on other games I've played on it, yet.

>>9412429
>Does anyone here have any experience with the Duckstation emulator?
yes

>>9419090
>What do you think is happening to mine if yours is running perfectly?
I don't know. If you find any bugs in the desktop version with all settings default and no enhancements let me know.

I want to fuck somebody.

>>9418731
>schizo
Why do people keep saying this? The word is "paranoid", did that word just disappear from consciousness?

>>9412749
Have you never had an actual PS1 system?
Someone ought to list glitches that were on real hardware before blaming an emulator.

Why bother looking for bugs in games no one's gonna play

>>9420526
Because who else is going to?

>>9412504
>"it's just cold pizza, bro."
How would you respond to this?

>>9420428
Yeah kind of, though I think its overuse of late has been helped by this specific kind of paranoia and obsession becoming very common in emudev and retro gaming scenes in general. It is pretty schizo behavior though, either it's open source or it isn't, if you're not gonna close the source stop bitching.

>>9420418
Sure. I'm limited to my phone for the moment, but hopefully I'll get a PC working soon.

>>9413075
Never played imports on an ntsc console. I just like how all my favorites work on consoles, how they're supposed work, the first time

Didn't know about your import game not working though

>>9416961
Idk emulators are too buggy control wise or with game physics too often for me to enjoy some titles with

That's why I'd rather use the actual console. I agree the clutter does kind of suck though

You wouldnt steal a car so please consider to play on real hardware.

>>9421941
My computer is real hardware.

>>9421941
I would download a car, actually, but thank you for your concern.

>>9421941
Sure I would.

>>9418408
Because when you start Duckstation on desktop there is no automatic update.

>>9423795
Or I think it's because it's not updated much.

>>9423820
>>9423795
Nevermind for some reason now it decides to work.

>Duckstation - The movie subtitles don't show properly in Duckstation by default,
but this can be fixed by going to Settings -> Console Settings, then setting
Execution Mode under CPU Emulation to either Interpreter or Cached Interpreter.

Do Cuckstation users really? Just use Mednafen/Beetle PSX

>>9424235
>Duckstation - The movie
The what?

>>9424241
The movie subtitles don't show properly unless you do what its written in the readme
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/6682/

>>9424246
Oh it's a ROM hack? Does it work on a real PS1? The Japanese text in the unpatched version works fine with recompiler.

>>9424246
I added it to the list, thanks. Let me know if you come across any more Duckstation bugs.

>>9412429
The latrest update today broke ALL my control profiles!
Got them set up again and had to enable x-input and d-input again from the settings (these are turned off now, for some reason??), but no game will regsiter any controller not in port1. Impossible to play multiplayer.
Fuck me
Can't even downgrade to previous version, because the files on uptodown are .pbd files with no explanation to them?
God damn, I feel dumb for trusting an update to not just fuck everything over without warning.

>>9424891
Just download a previous build from github.

>>9424907
Fuck yes, the "legacy" release works!
Thanks, anon!
I'm having some friends over tomorrow, and I have spent the whole week picking out games for us to play and setting up the controllers. Was about to kms

>>9424235
>Just use Mednafen/Beetle PSX
If devs don't bother to create UI I don't bother to use their shit

>>9425124
Mednaffe exists you know

>>9425124
Use Retroarch then

>>9422148
This