/vr/ - Retro Games

Are there Famiclones that have microphones on the second controller?

>>930054

>>930054
>>930082
Text didn't show up for some reason.

Anyway, I assume if these are available, then maybe so.

I have a Gen Nex and a Retron Triple. They both suck dick compared to an AV Famicom but the Gen Nex IS pretty small, front loading and has a wireless controller option. I might be able to see someone that wants to fit a NES in a very tight space like a car using it and maybe someone who has a bunch of carts but no consoles MIGHT want to use a Retron if budget is limited but really in both those cases an emulator would be just as good in a few ways and better in the rest.

Now real famiclones from back in the day like Dendy and the lot are another story. They're super cool!

>>930084
I hear the retro duo is by far one of the best to use. From what I understand, it's not a NOAC system.

>>930090
My complaint about the Retron is more with its build quality. The NES slot never worked from the beginning and it's generally pretty plasticky. Sounds are also quite tinny.

>>930127
can't*

>>930101
Well that's something I can worry about. Think of it this way, you aren't going to man handle an actual NES, so why would you do the same to the Retron? The plastic is considerably of lower quality, but it doesn't feel as though I could break it unless I tried to. Also, the audio output level is about the same as my NES.

bumpin with pics

this is a famulator
they are great and compact

>>930084
that's kinda neat aside from the controller ports on the sides which is a bit awkward

>>930143
oh that is a nice design I really like this one

>>930153
you can still find them on ebay for moderate prices

hint hint

Dynavision, the first and most popular famiclone where I live brazil. It was almost as popular as the original famicom.
I don't remember the exactly price, but it was very cheap.

>>930084
It's so cute, I need one

>>930157
Works fairly well with most games apparently too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTb8hRQOdAY

>>930229
yep, that video is how i learned about them.
i've watched a few of his videos besides this one too.

>>930216
>Famicom style carts
>Genesis pad
>Atari XE LightGun

This is what I love about these things.
By the way, have you seen any Gamates or other weird handhelds in game stores?

>>930667
The console sort of resembles a model 1 mega drive too

>>930667
I've got a Supervision

>>930154
I WANT ONE OF THESE THINGS. Especially the NES/FC port ones. The only time I ever find them is when they're located in middle of god damned nowhere in Bjorkbjorkistan and charge $40 alone in shipping. Fuck that.

I want these because these are supposedly are among the most accurate NES clones available. The two slots is a massive bonus.

>>930721
For that kind of money and effort, you could just get lucky and find a barely used NES in a thrift store for $20 like I did just last week.

>>930775
I have 5 NESs, one Famicom, and 6 Famiclones. I want this two in one because it would be super convinient. Shame that they only exist in the middle of some always-snowing Socialist regime in central Europe.

>>930780
honestly, i think you have enough.

>>930084

>>930830
If it helps, I'm planning on selling the rest off. I just want the 2 in one clone, but they belong to Snowmen.

>>930842
You do intend to keep the famicom right?

>>930848
Of course. In fact, I came across another one in a pawn shop for $30, and it came with a complete copy of Golf. It had no power cable or video cable, plus it was dirty as hell.

I much prefer the NES over the Famicom in terms of aesthetics, but the AV Famicom is killer.

>>930841
I think you mean

Anyone have any experience with the RetroDuo? I picked one up for $50 (probably got ripped off) and, when I play Mega Man X, the Dash upgrade disappears when I finish Chill Penguin's stage. I'm unsure if it's the cart or the console, though.

>>930084
That thing is fucking awesome.

Too bad its not an El Camino or another cool replica car. That'd be a good idea for a project.

Mine was Famiyarou 5.
It's pretty good if you ask me: there are turbo buttons, 5 built-in games and that round thing in the middle lights up when you turn on the console.

It eventually stopped working, so I decided to finally buy me an actual Famicom for once.

>>930143
I always wanted to get the one in OP's pic. However, *that* one…

>>930865
The controller is basically the Retron1 without a slow button

>>930968
I want this to be an animated gif so bad

>>930968
I wish it had NES style controller inputs like the AV famicom, I suppose that would screw up the case design a bit though

>>931005
The controllers are actually awesome. If you saw them, you wouldn't want NES ports.

Oh yeah! I had one of those! The controllers are amazing! I have an original nes with a new 72 pin. Works like a wonder. The Retron 5 looks cool!

>>930160
I actually saw this in a store back in the day, running the real Japanese SMB2 before any kind of SMB sequel was even announced here. REALLY wanted to get it.

>>930985
i did my best

>>929967

C... could you change your screen ratio to 4:3

It-it's bugging the hell out of me

>>931782
Good job anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM2YSmDuydU

>>932002

holy fuck, my mind was blown when I tried to play this.

>>930968
This is the one in OP's pic. You can literally get it for $20 shipped.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RETRON-TOP-LOADER-NES-NINTENDO-FC-GAME-CONSOLE-8-Bit-B1-/120677786497?pt=Video_Games&hash=item1c18f4e381

On the console inside a little plastic case with cellophane is all that's included. However, you can always ask the seller if they can send you the box that it came in, free of charge. They're also in a variety of colors.

The Famulator on the other hand is pricey, and the shipping from Japan is what kills it. Loose they want $56.50 total, while a boxed one will run you $73.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FAMULATOR-Console-System-Boxed-Famicom-Family-Computer-JP-2201-/300937736040?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4611496f68

>>931054
yea. i'm debating on getting one or not

>>931791
yea, i could, i just turned it on for the picture to show it working

>>932065
yea, i didn't know i could have gotten the box. shit.

>>932501
You could always ask him to send it to you. That's what I did.

I own original NES and SNES systems myself, always been curious about how famicoles performed though. From the sounds of things, not so well.

>>932765
They really vary. Old Famiclones were piece by piece clones, so they played pretty much everything you threw at them with no problem. Noticeable problems include swapped duty cycles (meaning the sound is more "bloopy") and the colors might be off.

Most newer ones are NES on a Chip technology, which allows some to be obscenely small. These usually have the poorest performance, and refuse to play MMC5 games. Some of these are literal NES clones, so because of that, they won't play the Famicom's expanded audio.

Supposedly, running Rad Racer 2 on them will cause them to short out and burn, because this is the only game that pulls CIRAM from the NES. However, the chip in RR2 is supposed to block the NES' signal from interfering with it, as it has it's own CIRAM thing, but clones don't know what to do.

>>932765
they're actually fairly good for chinese clones at least 80% of the games out there are playable on them though they suffer from minor graphical or sound problems

is there somewhere i can buy a NOAC to make my own system, or would this be a very difficult project?

>>933229
I haven't had any luck finding NOACs by themselves, but you can always rip em out of Famiclones. Also, i found the Atari Flashback 1 is actually NOAC based!

If you know of good places to purchase semiconductors, ICs, microprocessors, and whatnot, try searching for the Novatek NT6578 or the Sino Wealth SH6578.

They're 82-pin quad flat packages.
Fabricated in China as "education computer modules."
Pretty much MOS 6502 clones

Large specification sheet in English: http://gannon.portablesofdoom.org/SH6578_Spec_V980826.pdf

bootleggames.wikia.com
Wiki on Famiclones and other pirate game consoles.

vrt.com.tw
Makers of the VT03, a really souped up Famiclone with some features exclusive
to those Chinese pirate games. However, not MMC5 compatible.
This is also the same NOAC used in the Generation NEX and newer Subors.

I find the whole Asian pirate game scene to be really fascinating.
Even modern games get ported to these 8-bit systems for the Asian market.

>>933229
I don't believe they sell them on their own but you can cut the PCB down to just the NOAC and use them any way you want like this
http://www.instructables.com/id/NES-in-a-Cartridge/

>>932065
A local game shop has the OP one, so finding it is not an issue. Problem is I'm just a cheapass. I have 3 or 4 Famicons, and for $20 I could've bought one of them and still have enough leftover for another ... including my boxed one.

>>933385
That game (Metal Force) is pretty advanced for an unofficial game, did you see the title screen? Shit, those guys must've been paid well to put in the extra effort.

>Even modern games get ported

So does that mean that the Chinese, if they ever have the chance, will be the first to port Retro City Rampage or Mega Man 9 to the NES? Those guys could do some impressive ports, such as Pokemon Yellow. Music notwithstanding.

>>934053
Got 8 already
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=ZomK3k6JdzY


Commencing Famicom demake video dump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpyIZdTeik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1FFBHgNOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odXy2rxVMTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl48_HHIHBk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCqxkIBkF2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxCqzPL1Y_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vSNuiv8H_8

And lots more. Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's a fan adaptation or a legitimate chinese attempt to make money off dirt poor people who only have famiclones.

>>934143
Those aren't real NES games, and by extension, not as impressive. Anyone can spend a week writing code that is actually easy to read such as C++, but it takes some serious dedication to write out gibberish hexadecimal and make something that works,

>>935376
>Those aren't real NES games
orly?

>>935376

>>935394
>>935401
For a minute, looking at the first video, I thought you were going to list out a whole bunch of "8-bit demakes" such as the Mega Man 8 one. That one isn't a real NES game.

>>929967

Got a Retron. Brand new out-of-the-box, games work about 1 in 20 times.

>>935416
Yes it is. It hasn't been put onto a cartridge afaik but it is a Famicom ROM that will run on an NES.

>>935432
Bullshit. I know for a fact that's a fangame that looks like an NES game, and that's it. Unless you have the ROM you'd like to share.

>>935401
Oh god i need to see this.

>>935501
I posted a video

>>934143
>>934143
Those are tight for the most part

>>930143
I can't find it online to buy!

My googling skills are lacking today...

>>935610
See here:

>>932065

The Famulator is VERY expensive though, and while it can even play Castlevania 3, which most clones can't, it still has hardware flaws. Jailbars in video, mixed duty cycles, and no audio expansion support.

>>935653

>>935685
Supposedly, these were sold (and I guess still are) in Japan for 2,980 yen, which is roughly $30. You're grossly overpaying otherwise, and I can't seem to find a merchant. Maybe Yoybuy has it.

>>935694
Well, I'm still planning on what kind of setup I'm going for.

Either a famiclone, or a real nes with a powerkart.
If I do buy a famiclone, I might end buying carts.

I said it two days ago and I'll say it again, this is what you should get. If you want some other feature with the exception of cuteness/novelty then you should just be using Retroarch on your Wii.

>>935920
but that looks ugly with an nes cart

>>937104
It looks just like a top loading NES with no hump.

>>937120
yes, and the toploader was ugly too.

>>937120
it looks cool with a famicom cart, but that's about it
the hump on the nes 101 ruined it

>>937130
To be fair, the NES 101 was designed first, then the Japanese remodeled it. You can thank Lance Barr for that. He also designed the NES and SNES as well.

>>937132
the Famicom version looks a bit better and the size of the carts compliment it

resembles a gundam to me

>>937124
Beauty is truth, truth beauty.

It is the best NES/Famicom you can reasonably get second only to pic related, which will set you back like a grand or more.

and it's not winning any beauty contests either AND has attached controllers

>>937135
That it does. However, the American one didn't quite get that blessing, and despite people hating it recently, I think the 001 looks miles better. A modded 001 with a Famicom slot, disabled chip, maybe the Famicom expansion port, and audio mixing is the best one you can own. Especially if it's painted.

>>937143
I like the famitwin more

>>937154
Those are cool too especially the red ones.

>>937169
just look at the sexy beast

>>937143
>>937169
They're both Sharp

>>935423
mine works everytime

>>937183
The very same Sharp that made the first TV COLOR GAME pong consoles.

>>938651
I was making a joke about how they both looked good. I should have put the ... in there and maybe the guy from that show looking over his sunglasses but fuck it.

>>937183
>>938775
>They're both Sharp
>Sharp is the manufacturer
>sharp = attractive in appearance

I get it now...

>>937183
>>938775
>They're both Sharp
>Sharp is the manufacturer
>sharp = attractive in appearance

I get it now...

I had one of these, Retro Entertainment System while my NES was down and waiting to be cleaned. Sound and video are pretty good, but the console was a featherweight and felt cheap as shit. I prefer the original NES.

>>937104
Everything NES-related looks ugly.

>>930160
Oh shit, I had the EXACT same one!

When I was a kid living in Kuwait, I hounded my dad for a PS1, and he got me this instead! Man I was pissed.

Eventually, he did get me a Playstation (chipped for bootleg games, fuck yeah), and this thing lay in the dust. Tried it years later and it wouldn't turn on.

Ironically enough, I'm big on game collecting and retro vidya today, probably as a result of learning to appreciate gameplay over shitty graphics

>>941126

I've always hated white and red color schemes. Makes me think of tampons with fresh blood on them

>>941976
>Makes me think of tampons with fresh blood on them

thats why I like it

>>941126
>Decide to playthrough my girlfriend's Megaman collection on NES
>No longer has an original console, has this piece of crap instead
>Took a halfhour of noodling to get it to work
>Cat bumps it once after a long ass time fighting Heatman's stage
>Dies
>Dies so dead that the motherboard appears to be cracked

WHY WOULD YOU NOT SECURE IT PROPERLY, I CAN ALMOST PULL IT OUT WHEN REMOVING A CARTRIDGE

>>942341
The reason behind this is:
MADE IN CHINA combined with ZERO QUALITY CONTROL AND MATERIAL

Really what do you expect from them?

>famiclones

Why would you do this?

If you can't get the actual hardware, just use an emulator. I don't know why anyone would want to use one of these things.

>>942412
>I don't know why anyone would want to use one of these things.
Maybe because of cartridges and a TV with a lower power consumption than PCs?
Maybe because its smaller?
I honestly don't know why people do stupid things.

>just use an emulator
pic related

I don't remember mine. All I remember is that it was one of those 100-games-in-the-memory ones that were actually the same 10 but repeated a lot.

IIRC, it had SMB1, Wild Gunman, Duck Hunt, Soccer, Battle City, Lode Runner, Tengen Tetris, Road Fighter and some other game that involved two penguins that were controlled simultaneously.

>>942412
There are some people that just enjoy having them.

It's like collecting games, or cards or whatever.

>>942412
some people like doing things

>>942412
>I don't know why anyone would want to use one of these things.
Quit being Californian. Doesn't matter WHY people want to do stuff. Your opinions are not the judicator of merit.

>>942412
Famiclones are inexpensive and small, compared to a computer or real famicom. A famiclone can be left in my car or in a bag for I trips and if I lose it, it breaks, or gets stolen oh well. Since they usually come with like 40 games they're usually quite portable too.

I've yet to find a single famiclone with passable sound quality. I really wish the generation NEX would've been good, it looks so nice.

>>942435
Binary Land.

>>942412

Absolutely right is more like it. And yes, disgusting.

>>943962

Then get NES.emu for Android. It's actually more accurate than a shityclone and way cheaper.

>>942474

Doing things wrong.

>>935653
But does it acually play the music properly?

Mine ran every cart fine, but the the sound on games with special chips was way too low. You couldn't even hear the sound effects on Youkai Douchuuki.

>>944546
>But does it acually play the music properly?
Nope sounds are a bit off, it doesn't even support the expanded sounds from famicom games. It also has jailbars. It does have a very high compatibility with most games though

>>943962
You can get a Wii for a few bucks more that does all of that but better in every way.

>>944558
Wii which is $100+ is quite a bit more expensive than a famiclone which is $15-40. Also you have to bring the sensor bar with you and carry around the controllers that are $40 a piece and perhaps buy a classic controller which is even more cost and dead weight.

>>944527
>Then get NES.emu for Android.
This works too but it sucks for multiplayer games since there's one controller normally and the screen is very small. Touch controls are awful for most kinds of games also.

>>937169
Fuck yeah, Animal Attack Gakuen.

That game pulls Space Harrier better than Space Harrier's Famicom port did. And it has schoolgirls with guns.

>>944601
Holy shit, you're right.
I just fired this up on an emulator, its pretty damn cool.

It rivals both the Famicom and Master System versions of Space Harrier.

Not as detailed as 3D WorldRunner, but that was more of a platformer on a Mode 7-esque plane than a Space Harrier clone

>>929967
>[topic] thread?
>[topic] thread

Is there a point to asking a rhetorical question before asserting its answer when starting a thread, aside from "doing things the 4chan way?"

>>944572
Wiis can be found used for like $50-60 nowadays, especially with the Wii mini. Plus the classic controller is infinitely superior to any shit tier famiclone controller.

>>944672
the wii mini hasn't been modded yet, it lacks an SD card slot so all current methods are useless

>>944669
is there a point to your complaining?