/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
UNRATTLED
Deadline: November 28th
Rules: >>9384165

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM PHASE 2
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461

94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Beta 0.8 release
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== NEWS ===
[11-3] DF-21.net is hosting a Star Wars: Dark Forces level contest for the month of November with a prize.
https://df-21.net/?post=63

[11-2] DBP53: Plutonian Sunrise, released.
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2998

[11-1] Colorful hell updated to 0.99
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1231269#p1231269

[10-28] Doom 64: Ethereal Breakdown is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132113

[10-22] Infested episode 2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76655

[10-22] Slooter dev cancels development
https://buxomdev.itch.io/slooter/devlog/437072/end-of-development

[10-18] Latest Doom Unity addon: Harmony
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1582413888532156416

[10-17] Perfect Dark is now 100% decompiled and recompiled
https://twitter.com/Graslu00/status/1581744350249521153

[10-14] Corruption Cards updated to 4.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67939

[10-11] First anniversary of REKKR: Sunken Land
https://twitter.com/RevaeRavus/status/1579872132447600641

[10-11] Sorrow updated to 1.1
https://redead-ita.itch.io/sorrow/devlog/438130/11-update

[10-10] Doom Master Wadazine #19 is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131804

[10-10] Chasm: The Rift available on Steam & GOG
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2061230/

[10-6] Chocolate Descent got a new release
https://github.com/InsanityBringer/ChocolateDescent/releases/tag/v0.3-beta

[10-3] Quake gets the ray traced treatment
https://youtu.be/1T3jc3jD840

[10-3] Apotheosis X for Marathon released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/apotheosis-x

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA/folder/zgsXQIKA
Windows 98 games

https://mega.nz/folder/rkx3UI6R#LFRPbwkSLPEkLNjjuKkrtA
Turok games

more like Turdok

>>9387579
https://vocaroo.com/1jlTpsJ7bBaL

That's kinda neat. If you load HDest on Ad Mortem a Megasphere appears in front of you.

Is there an FPS sound effect/voice line that comes back to your head at random times?
For me is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS1TQKe_D18&t=1m23s

These threads are mostly repeats of the same comments, I don't get it. Why do this on what is supposed to be a slow board?

So, I'm working on a mod where each enemy appears in monochrome and has a colour associated with them (red, yellow, green, blue). The idea is that when you kill an enemy, you steal their colour and you do more damage against enemies with the same colour.
>Imp, Shotgun Guy, Zombie, Hell Knight - Red
>Demon, Lost Soul, Pain Elemental - Blue
>Revenant, Cacodemon, Chaingunner, Baron of Hell - Green
>Arachnotron, Mancubi - Yellow
>Archvile - Monochrome, changes colour depending on the enemy it revives
>Spectre - Black (can't be stolen, does more damage against the player)
>Spider Demon, Cyberdemon - Monochrome

Any thoughts/opinions on which colours each enemy should be?

Threadly reminder that we're still working on replacing SRB2Kart's advertisements. Grab those here.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/727328864489046110/1037216866638245978/Adverts.zip
Currently replaced:
>BILSAFE
>JEWELAD3
>JEWELAD4
>TPSIGNE

>>9387567
IMPORTANT NOTE FOR UNRATTLED:
We're using this version of lostres instead of the google drive in the original post https://files.catbox.moe/ypj8oo.zip

>>9387498
>>9387518
I don't mind hosting the original HL1 but I don't intend to make that a regular thing. The game is 24 years old, either you own it by now or you don't.

>>9387681
>The game is 24 years old, either you own it by now or you don't.
That leaves you open to WON vs Steam arguments.

>>9387649
Isn't green too stacked?

>>9387684
We'll see. I've been wanting to do this a long time and I did something similar back in 2017/2018 and it was such a pain in the ass dealing with people who would constantly bombard the threads with
>Don't download it has a virus in it
and other bullshit. Legit owners just saves me the headache. Maybe that won't happen this time.

>>9387704
What the fuck did you link me anyway? What's this HD shit?

>>9387714
The HD pack is toggleable, you know.

>>9387714
it was whatever version the maintainer of that mega has, lol. seemed easiest and free?
i just found this other cool project too
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1127785318
https://won2.net/
aparently WON is back up again, which is neat to see.
yeah i know sometimes anons can be annoying claiming everything is a virus, sorry.
i just don't have Steam right now, but i do own it and all, i just need to repair my main PC again to get that all back up and going. for now, these megas seem like a cool way to get everyone up and going.

>>9387702
Might be. Chaingunner might do better in yellow. I keep trying to think about which enemies tend to be paired together, but chaingunners tend to be everywhere.

>>9387649
How is the player going to know what their current colour is? If it's a status bar tint or whatever, will there be any provision for people playing with minimalist HUDs?

>>9387727
I'm planning to add custom guns and the guns themselves will change colour.

>>9387704
are you still going to play, i googled the time difference and it was 12:30 for me and that was an hour ago.
sorry i dont have steam? but look at all those games we could play in the links, isn't that an exciting prospect

Playing Doom for Playstation, with my usual rule of beating each level with 100% scores and full health/armor/inventory. Just found out that I could have avoided the Level 31 inventory reset by using the password that the game gave me. Now I have to replay four levels if I want to keep up my streak. I'm somewhat annoyed.

Inb4 "you should force pistol start anyway".

>>9387774
Setting up. Looking for my old files.

>>9387776
is that the PS1 decompilation port? really cool project!
my rules for Doom are i get to keep things, unless i die, then i have to then beat that level with the pistol start.

>>9387779
It's up and running via a virtual private server, but when I connect the models "hitch" when moving and I really don't like it.

>>9387806
how do models hitch, what does that mean lol
do you not just double click the exe and create a multiplayer match?

>>9387808
Just wait until you get in. It's quite noticeable. I've never used a VPS before, I always did it listen server style back when. Might have to upgrade it since it's a 4 core virtual machine.

https://mega.nz/file/sAhwxDII#3CWt2bkOC3aeYs1o3jm-dNKHUJ6FeTIBkYaD7uguw38
^Need this. One of my older HL1 clients using Xash.

connect 162.248.93.194:27015
Max 32 players I'm in.

>>9387826
i will be able to join in 45 minutes, i wish the other one worked because i had it set up already

>>9387795
Psydoom is indeed cool, and retro game recompliations in general are an exciting trend.

If I could set up games to make it convenient, I might adopt more "hardcore" rules; like never reverting to a past save unless I'm dead, but once I am, going back as far as I like to find a good point to continue from. I won't put the effort into giving up quick loading when it's so convenient and erases all trace of a mistake, though.

>>9387834
Do your thing man. Appreciate the interest.

>>9387826
2/32

>>9387839
is your server up? i opened the console and typed connect 162.248.93.194:27015 and it's not joining

>>9387873
Did you get the specific build linked? It won'/t work with the Steam build.

>>9387874
i downloaded the zip you gave me, used the shortcut to launch with console, then i typed connect 162.248.93.194:27015 and it wont connect me

>>9387629
Live updates on our mod progress, and organizing netplay sessions.

>>9387876
>you
I'm not the uploader, just a chump who tried with Steam to see if it would work.

>>9387873
>>9387876
I switched to Steam. 2/32. Password is rage

>>9387882
3/32

I see that the brutalist Quake mapjam is recently released, when will the Quake2 mapping project be done?

>>9387882
Switching to The Specialists since this dedicated server shit is funky and I want to get it right before bed.

So what's everyone's menu item at Caco Bell?

So what's everyone's favorite menu item at Caco Bell?

The Specialists is a-go, figured out the dedicated server shit. Hosting for 20ish more minutes. I won't post much more in these threads since this is for Doom and other classic FPS, but you can find me on /vm/.

slaughtermap danger level according to midi
>low
stock doom 2/tnt midis
>medium
you suck
>high
nightwish midis, symphony x midis
>very high
zach siegel midis, knightrider of doom midis
>oh shit
mucus flow

>>9387717
WON2 has been up for ages, but it's still incomplete, it seems.
You can use the master server, but the auth server used for chat rooms doesn't work.
There's also supposed to be a separate server for listing mods with automated installation. That was such a neat feature.

>>9387926
two fifth layer of hell burritos with extra diablo sauce and a crusherwrap supreme

The Chasm is easy and you shouldn't fall unless you really suck at video games.

It works, but I can't figure out why it jumps up when awoken?

>>9387565
>https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA/folder/zgsXQIKA
>Windows 98 games
>>9387565
>4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
>https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

these are the same, backup or something

Am i the only one gets bored easily after 2-3 megawads? Stop playing for a year or so and come back again. How do you continue and not get bored? It is fun again when you come back but combat is too basic. I think Ultra Violence was the main reason to bore me as that made the maps more slaughter like. HMP increased my tolerance.

>>9388093
This is why I always play on HMP even though I have skill to play on UV. UV bores me, because it makes the most wads grindier and thus more slower and boring. I can't understand players who play only on UV and then proceed to whine that wad is too grindy or slaughtershit, and still refusing to play on HMP "because UV is the intended way to play". Yes, UV is intended way to play if you like maximized monsters, which some of you clearly don't. Stop punishing yourselves. Be like me and like this anon here. Choose HMP and enjoy it proudly.

>>9387931
>muh overbrights
So it's basicly glQuake vs. WinQuake all over again?

>>9387660
What about these?
>>9367118
>>9367124

>>9387660
>>9388153
and these
>>9367112
>>9367362
>>9367302
>>9367441
>>9369293
>>9369241
>>9367689

Does Shadow Warrior have an enemy that will filter me like Blood's cultists?

>>9388175
Shadow ninjas and bees.

Know any good MIDI covers of CC's Epitaph?

>>9388176
>>9388175
speaking of SW - is the 'lost' Deadly Kiss addon still vaporware?

>>9388186
Yes/no. There's a playable build of what was built when it was canned (levels kind of rough and tedious, but you can see what they were going for), but the proper remake seems to have ground to a halt.

>year 2022
>not a single good warhammer 40k mod or wad
being a fag40k sucks

cacaodemon

>remember playing slayer`s rampage a bit ago
>look it up
>apparently 2.0 dropped
>try it
>it`s straight up JUST WORSE than 1.9c
never felt like downgrading a version before, first time for everything i guess.

Wrath got obliterated from Myst 3 Exile due plagiatrism through SimonOC's style primarily. Neither Mark V Winquake is Arcane Dimensions'. Nevermind.

>>9388220
what went wrong with the new update, anon?

>>9388208
Geedubs would just go scorched earth on that shit.

>>9388208
Violent Rumble had one quite 40k-ish map.

>>9388262
>no more fists
>weapon slots are now stretched out across all number keys
>on raise, half of them flash their ALT description with no way of disabling
>SSG reload can be completely cancelled by swapping, you don`t have to put in the shells when you swap back right after shooting
>gatling gun has no spin-up time, HMG is now obsolete
>shotgun ALT now uses 2 shells besides a rocket (might be a bug though)
i mean, if you don`t care for balance and just want to wail in on em you won`t care as much. whatever vision there was, it seems to be gone.
there is a bit more content, like a couple alternative ALTs, a bunch of new monsters and flame belch, but it just feels like bloat imo.

>>9388302
>SSG reload can be completely cancelled by swapping, you don`t have to put in the shells when you swap back right after shooting
That matches the “backpack reloading/recharging” as seen in the new Dooms, for better and for worse.
>>9388208
I occasionally get Iron Warrior vibes from Quake 2.

>>9388208
How do you feel about the Space Hulk games?

>>9388208
Wait for Boltgun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCDPIrqZ2GU

>>9388402
Too bad it’s not retro, unless it went from UE to a Doombased engine overnight or something.

Gzdoom is down for some reason, does anyone have Trailblazer?

>>9388420
huh you're right zdoom forum won't load.
Here's trailblazer, up for like 12 hrs till the link expires
https://litter.catbox.moe/31q4j0.pk3

>>9387567
>>9387662
I wanna ask three questions for Unrattled.
1. Are we replacing the skies, like maybe a starry night sky with dark mountains for E2?

2. I know it's about Doom 1, but can we add some of the texures and flats from Doom 2? Like the water/slime/blood fall textures, some of the base and metal textures, etc. A bunch of them would fit fine with Doom 1's looks, we'd just skip the Wolf3D and Icon Of Sin Textures (well, maybe we could add that those two which has a bunch of computers and wires on it, they could fit).

3. I can just do whatever the fuck I want for level design, right? Use any monsters, as long is looks Doomy, right?

>want to play demonsteele on ashes ep2 sterilized
>corpses make weird noises
>want to play siren on ashes ep2 sterilized
>breaking vent grills crashes the game
>want to play brutalshit on ashes ep2 sterilized
>doesn`t even launch
dang it

>>9388468
Hideous Destructor

>>9388402
INB4 "muh, it's no-..."
>>9388415
...nevermind.

Hello anons. I'm currently in need of some quality artwork for a project I have been working on (main menu pic, intermission pic, etc.) Any artists who are interested can contact me here - https://www.doomworld.com/profile/18508-a2rob/
Thanks.

>>9388472
that works but not the others? what’s the conflict?
>>9388474
yea get that shit outta here

>>9388093 >>9388134
Different anon. You make a good point, but my pride rejects the thought of "giving up". Plus I'm already several levels into No Rest and Evilution, so I'd have to either start over or resort to save editing (or pistol starting). I could drop for Plutonia (if I get that far), but I've heard so much about how hard it is, I want to see how my skills and savescumming fare against it.

>>9388238
Is that a Markov chain?

>>9388415
Even modern GZDoom games like Selaco get their posts deleted.

>>9388556
it`s just luck really lol. and considering complexity of ashes2 and sterilized being an afterthought, it totally makes sense.

>>9388565
rip oh well, seleco/ion fury shitflinging often got out of hand anyways

>>9388565
It was a bit grating seeing the same 2 or 3 posters making nearly identical, circular arguments about the sex appeal and personality of a protagonist with the same images attached for multiple threads straight

>>9388565
I see those up at times.

>>9388626
Seems to be the deletes were more from the drama, kind of like when Rekkr Romero posting got out of hand.

>>9388565
Wait, really? Consistent rules, finally!

how is the duke nukem 3d modding scene?

>>9388690
>Consistent
I wish.
>>9388692
Has some weird shit like Alien Armageddon and that new free thing AWOL. Still not as big as Doom or even Quake due to old mod tools/not as much interest.

>>9388557
>savescumming
(First anon here)
Anon that's one of the issues. People are either savescumming or play it with a lot of attention. When it comes down to it Doom's combat is basic, generally strafing or running towards to monsters.
While i don't like Final Doom much if you also play Plutonia (HMP/UV doesn't matter) you will most likely understand all there's to it about monsters.
At that point it becomes playing different wads. Do you want to relax a bit?
Save a lot?
And even if you are good or wad is easy it still takes a long time.

There's BTSX which is like vanilla doom recommended a lot. It starts great, problem is it has over 20 levels. And they all are pretty much the same. I recently finished that on UV and every level had hundreds of monsters. Shit gets tiring. Its not hard but tedious. Killing same twice amount of enemies( generally not that extreme increase) just makes you strafe the area. That's all there's. Where as you could spend that time to play other wads.

what are your top 3 doom wads? can be maps or gameplay

Man, hanging enemies on the ceiling is still so fucky in MBF21.

playing doom for the first time
beat quake on normal mode without saving during levels a few months ago

>doom, quake, half life mods
let me guess you need more?

Zooming past the original Quake levels in AD's Chaos mode made me encounter a revamped MegaEnforcer, giving him a rocket-shotgun instead of the classic homing missiles is just vile

>>9388830
Yes. More mods, more levels.

>>9387662
I like the bunker textures, makes me want to make some sort of living quarters/rec area even if I barely have the mapping chops to make a door not break, much less some doomcute

>>9388837
Look up a tutorial and then fuck around and see if you can make something. UDB is super easy to use.

>>9388830
Yeah I like going through buildshit as well, sometimes I want the opposite of that and look into Serious Sam stuff.

>>9387660
What was wrong with the originals?

Trying to give pinkies a lost soul attack seems to be crashing the game. Maybe I did something wrong though.
But my backup plan is about as good.

>You can map for/mod Doom in whichever way you want and it works.
>The combat in Quake will always be shit no matter how much you mod it because the enemies are fundamentally retarded and can't be improved to keep pace with the player without superb jank and they don't work well together en masse.
pain

>>9387662
>random /vr/ project
>the same month that Matador is leading a DBP

>>9388914
Who?

>>9388884
>>You can map for/mod Doom in whichever way you want and it works.
5 archviles in an empty field, no cover, doesn’t sound very fun.

In GZDoom, some fuzz settings have sparse white pixels flickering over it, even outside the spectre outline. Is this just how those shaders are, or is something fucked up on my end?

What's the deal with Unreal? No source code releases? No source ports or modern ports?

>>9388930
Never noticed myself. Try updating your drivers maybe?

>>9388930
Just use proper software fuzz like a normal human bean. Also >>9389012

>>9389005
A couple of extremely dedicated autists are working on porting the Unreal Harry Potter games to a more modern version of Unreal.

>>9387746
This is a cool idea. I would maybe put the chaingunner with yellow because his role as a suppressor is similar to the arachnotron and mancubus. In fact, I would say you should make sure there’s somehow at least 1 weak enemy in each color so that you can switch more readily to deal with larger threats. My two cents at least.

>>9388930
Can happen if your rendering quality is set to speed instead of quality.

>>9388930
I noticed this too. Happens in Vulkan, but not OpenGLES for me.
AMD video card?

>>9389070
You're thinking of the specks of sky visible between wall/floor/ceiling polygons, this is a different issue.

>>9387662
Can I use some animated PSX Doom's fire skies for my map?

>>9389071
Bingo, AMD.
I had tried OpenGL and Vulcan, but not OpenGLES yet, and sure enough it's gone there.

I was mostly wondering if it was a sign that my old-ass card was about to spontaneously combust or something, apparently not yet.

>>9387565
>still using Google drive instead of either Dropbox, 4shared, or Carbonite

>>9389005
>What's the deal with Unreal? No source code releases?
There are leaks, like the DNF one, but Epic never released it, yes.
>No source ports or modern ports?
Works like a clock on anything from NT 3.51 to Win 11. You might want to install a fan patch though, either the latest one or one before that for DX10 renderer.

>>9389098
Unfortunately any hardware that can run Vulkan at all is going to perform worse in GLES.
Not worth it for fancier fuzz if you ask me. I might post a bug report on the ZDoom forums.

>>9389113
Anyone who uses dropbox, 4shared and carbonite is a homo, do you know that?

>>9388153
>>9388156
These are already in, just didn't specify because they weren't included in the download as ones open to replacement.
>>9388854
Nothing, really. I just thought it would be fun to replace them with something that represents the /vr/ and /doom/ community more rather than the Sonic community.
>>9388437
>>9389080
>Skies
I'll let you guys use whatever sky you like if you implement through a sky transfer. Just include it in your WAD.
>Level design
Joke/troll maps will probably be rejected unless they're explicitly for a secret level. Outside of that, go absolutely fucking wild.
>Doom 2 textures
Maybe.

>>9389098
just buy a video card for once dude

>>9389152
>t.gullible gooooogler

>>9389113
Feel free to remake the links in the OP using those sites, even though I know you won't since you're all talk and no action.

Why don't """they""" want me to have endoom support
What secrets does it hold

>>9384082
It's cute.

>>9387649
Make the enemies bleed that color too.

>>9389284
Didn't DSDA add it back? So there'd be no point in a fork anymore.

>>9388717
Thanks for the perspective. Maybe I'll drop to HMP for PS Doom and Plutonia. I didn't realize the only difference was enemy and item count, and not enemy behavior.

I'd find the games less "grindy" without all the secrets to hunt for, and the arbitrary grading on items collected. And maybe without the base/bonus health/armor distinction, so pistol-starting a level and finishing with 100 health was strictly superior to starting and finishing with 200/200. Or with something like PS Doom's password system in all games, so I wouldn't feel like using someone else's 200/200 save for a level was "cheating" compared to using mine. But there's no sense complaining; nobody's forcing me to play.

Sometimes there are so many enemies that I run out of room to strafe, and I have to resort to shooting instead of gradually wearing them down with infighting and melee. Or there are too many hitscanners in an ambush to get away from them without taking damage, so I have to shoot as I retreat. That's a bit of a different (and less "grindy") experience from the usual.

>>9389345

>>9389292
Credit to Ramon Mujica for the graphics and map in that WEBM, except the arrow-in-flight sprites.
This one shows a map I'm currently making, along with a new muzzle flash sprite I made for the Magic Rod.

>>9388830
We can still want things that we don't need, anon.

>>9389379
Looks quaint and fun. Also wow that's a lot of ammo.

>>9389432
>another code bigger suck wait dsda
Pure pottery.

>>9389432
>archivile needs shadow cock

>>9389379

>>9389432
>Start change weapons protons please thank quality
Get on it, Chopblock, and thank you for the good weapons.
The rest of you boys better thank him too.

>>9389379
Man, that's a lot of effort put into this old-ass wad probably no one remembers aside from you and me. I'd give you props for that.

Friday Night Firefight's up, we're playing Doom 2 Forever deathmatch with the original Samsara. Open up Doomseeker and let's get the show on the road.
51.161.34.159:10666

>>9388915
cool DB guy, good mapper who gives no shit about drama but still caused massive buttblast of DW for some reason. I liked his AZ entries and other DBP contributions
He also wrote doomwiki entries about some of /doom/ regulars

>>9389495
>filename
lmao

>January 29, 1996
The day Doom died

>>9387662
Doom 2 skies? And wolf 3d textures too, what is this lostres anyways? I thought this would only add kino doom beta stuff like the playing cards table, this is like all doom2 textures too, its too bloated and I dont even know which are which - I think it also fucks with my UDB texture explorer some reason, splitting doom.wad textures into two banks

>>9389531
>Dukies can't explain this

>>9389412
>Looks quaint and fun
I agree. I instantly fell in love when playing the first 3 episodes.
>wow that's a lot of ammo
Also note the Health before and after I grab the Berserk Pack.
So many little quirks that I adore.
>>9389481
Thank you. To be fair, I only recently discovered this WAD after looking for any pre-existing Final Fantasy Doom TC.
I just wanna' make maps inspired by Tactics. But finally working with DeHackEd via WhackEd4 has been surprisingly fun!

>>9389546
Lostres has beta stuff from both Doom games, so the Doom 2 patches had to be added for all of the textures to work.
>splitting doom.wad textures into two banks
Doom 1 always did this.

>>9389557
>Doom 1 always did this.
Oh okay, Im just a retard then
Apologies, Im only semi-skilled in mapping and nothing else computer-wise, so whenever I launch up Slade I get a headache and want to throw away my computer - all the lump and patch configurations are black magic to me

>>9389582
All good mate.
Little history lesson: TEXTURE1 contains all of the textures used for the shareware episode, while TEXTURE2 contains the rest. Doom 2 didn't have a shareware release and just had one textures lump containing everything.

how you guys avoid jumping into deathmatch every other day for forty-five minutes is beyond me. that was really fun.

Does that Requiem FPS still won't work well on modern PC machines?

how do you come up with ideas for rooms when mapping

>>9388565
Ion Fury posting should be kosher since it's running on a legit retro engine and everything about the game except the release year is 100% pure classic fps.

For all intents and purposes Ion Fury is the new Duke Nukem 3d.

>>9389531
As much as Duke Nukem 3d kicks ass, there are no classic shooters with as good of a bestiary / weaponry balance as DOOM's to the point where it's downright perfect material for custom levels with extremely approachable pick-up-and-play feel and a tight gameplay loop.

Even if I in general prefer the "lived in" feel of Build Engine games and the lifelike decor.

>>9389636
She's looking a little cross-eyed there. You need to get new images.

>>9389635
Think of a cool encounter and try to build a room off of it.

>>9389635
Try to think of how all the rooms will connect in a way that would give at least 3 out of 4 walls a purpose in each room, small corridors and staircases notwithstanding.

>>9388208
Dark Crusaders got leaked a while ago.

>>9389005
>No source code releases?
Epic's entire business model has been engine licensing for ages now, so they were never going to while it could still be slightly relevant, and modern Epic give so few shits about their old stuff that they haven't even ported their back catalog from Steam to EGS.

>>9389674
dayum

>>9389674
N I C E
A S S

I'm gonna fuck it off.

>>9389702
Oops you fucked up and I just rammed my giant dick up your ass and it popped out your mouth now you're DEAD HAHAHAHAHA
I like unapologetically stupid WADs like UACMN

Would anyone here be interested in a shirt that has the E1M1 Map on it?

Hey, quick.
What was that Doom wad by the teacher/daycare worker in France (iirc) with handdrawn sprites that the kids did?

>>9389742
Magikus
He posts here sometimes

>>9389746
God damnit. I was so close. Kept thinking "Magicka" and searching that got a litany of shit I didn't want.
Anyway, thanks! I really liked that one and wanted to show my kid.

>>9389495
And we're done. FNF has its ups and downs and this one was a downer.
As for SNS, we're going to be playing Demon Eclipse for the 6th, Doomware for the 13th, and possibly the 2hu monsters mod for the 20th, topping it off with SRB2Kart on the 27th, with a functioning stat tracker and a whole bunch of new STUFF to play with.

>>9389495
What about that that new Samsara some people are making?

>>9389846
Not very fun for deathmatch. Or anything else for that matter.

>>9389853
Did they break the old classes?

>2 demonic weapons in a single doomrla run
what the fuck how did I become this lucky

>>9389871
now the question is what do i ditch?

I wish they still did dumb but fun xpacs like this lmao.

>>9389860
To an extent. All 3 Hexen characters are in the game now instead of merging their weaponry into one.
The bigger problem is that all of the new characters are completely fucking impossible to balance for deathmatch, not to mention the mod being an unfocused mess of STUFF.

>>9389895
Well, as long as they sort everything out eventually...

>>9389919
That will happen by the time 94 protons comes out.

>>9389919
They'll get around to it when Extra Heroes does

It'd be cool if 94 Protons had a second phase like Ad Mortem

name FIVE (10) Retro™ FPS games made in or before the year of our lord 2007 where killing something with a shotgun straight up makes it explode into viscera and/or knocks it backward into orbit

>>9390319
It'd be cool if 94 Protons "first phase" was actually fucking finished before even thinking of doing that.

>>9390319
first phase until the sun burns out, second phase until the heat death of the universe

>>9390345
looking forward to the third and final phase!

>>9390348
Just in time for the Space Pirate's second demo

>>9390324
Sin
FEAR
Quake 2
Serious Sam
Soldier of Fortune

what if the archvile was split up into 2 monsters : one with the flame attack but only 300-400 hp and no resurrection, and one with the resurrection and 700 hp but its only attack is a generic hellknight or mancubus projectile
would that help or hinder combat encounters?

>>9390478
Crack open WhackEd4 and see for yourself.

>>9390478
I've been thinking about doing a non-demonic enemy pack, and my idea for archvile replacement was a team of medic and a sniper.

>>9390478
My idea was to remove any attacks, but make ressing a lot faster and maybe give it the ability to mass resurrect.

>>9390478
Arch-vile attack with no resurrection would work, but without being able to force player to back down, it loses much of its purpose.

Boys. I'm back on my bullshit with GMOTA again. While I'm gonna be saving some art passes and Samson for next year, I still got a few more fairly big changes before I push this out. I'm gonna be stripping out some elements I feel like don't add much. Like the Heavy Macer subshot, the Trine Volgue subweapon, and the Wave Buster. I might just have Zoom cast the grapple chain when you have the Blazter armed. The Blazter's ammo system is going to get adjusted too.

Still wish I could find a way to make the chain consistent though, fucking loreshots.

is there a place to download the generic doom BigFont as a desktop font for use outside Doom?

>>9389432
We need to sit down and talk about the
>lunchlunch issue

>>9389889
Some DBPs still have this spirit, like the Wolf3D one.

>>9389462
>cock adding suggested

>>9389432
>proper released honestly boom submission
>feel ribbiks funny
>srb2kart moment
>sorry midiset nice try

>>9387567
>94 PROTONS OF /vr/
I'm browsing Realm 667 again and now I found SMG zombie that could replace chaingunner sprites.

>>9391087
We'll just have to wait a couple of years for Chopblock to recolor it.

>>9389707
That red face of Carnevil never gets old. Based average Terry WAD enjoyer.

>>9389432
>quit zdoom
I thought everyone already did.
>>9389636
>legit retro engine
This screeching about engines is retarded. All new games should be banned from discussion: if releases like H**T, W******m and D**k are not allowed, so shall be Ion Fury, Wrath and even Steam/Zoom version of Rekkr. Especially stuff like Selaco and Total Chaos that have fuck all to do with this board. All or nothing, simple as that.
If anything, the rules should be reconsidered and discussions of games released in time period between November 2005 (November 2004 for handheld) to December 2007 should be pretty strict if not banned.
>>9390501
That gif. lol
>>9390956
Lovely screen.

>>9391128
>I thought everyone already did.
What? Only speedtrannies are using other ports.

AD's Chaos mode is goddamn crazy and I love-hate every single moment of it
is this where the VR randomizer got its inspiration from?

>>9388884
Literally what are you talking about. QuakeC is very moddable. Violent Rumble has fast melee only shamblers. Violent Rumble implemented armor for enemies, and a speed modifier. Other mods have volley functions i.e. enemies fire continuously. The difference is modding for Doom is less esoteric.

I will say I'm pretty tired of vanilla Quake maps and I wish people would stop making them. Quoth on up should be the standard. Fuck Copper.

>>9391128
>even Steam/Zoom version of Rekkr.
Then you have to answer the question of why ban the commercial release and not the mod, given that the only difference is whether Episode 4 is proper content or bonus content.

>>9391150
>Fuck Copper
Explain why is that?
I only miss farming cells from Enforcers

>>9391159
He’s just salty shitposting, and doesn’t even want people talking about Total Chaos or “fancy” GZDoom mods.

>>9391165
>Explain why is that?
I’d guess this is why >>9379402

>>9387567
Unrattled map submission:
Name: Mildly Dangerous Day
Author: Redead-ITA
Midi: Action radar by the Prodigy
https://files.catbox.moe/13ts4k.wad
Here is my entry for the project, Relased this on my birthday too, which is a nice bonus

>>9391159
Because it's a commercial release on GZDoom and that logically shouldn't be allowed.

>>9391226
>new standalone mod: fine
>new standalone mod with pricetag: big no no
I see the logic, it’s just petty.

>>9391194
buon compleanno, nigger

>>9391194
Happy birthday

>>9391194
Happy birthday Redead-ITA, I like your maps a lot

>>9391194
count 'em

>>9391245
Thank you, my Pic related
>>9391247
Thanks boner!
>>9391252
Glad to hear, i wanted to try to make a map where you get ammo starvation near the end somewhat, while i don't think it achieves on 100% i feel like i could learned some parts here and there.

>>9391226
Would you ban Dimension of the Machine for Quake?

>>9389432
>I thought everyone already did.
I 'm waiting for kraft to release 0.25 since 0.24.3 is bugged, and even then, how am I supposed to play Sigil with Brian's music?

>>9391258
I know its not the same drink at all but I really enjoyed chinotto soft drink when I was in Italy, amazing taste

>>9390319
Hey, so here's a suggestion, shut your fucking mouth. I've been trying to contain the scope creep here.

>>9390478
>Let's make the Arch-Vile less complex and less special
Why?

>>9391194

I like Doom

>>9391239
Not according to some posters here. That's the logic I'm following in this particular case.
>>9391259
It's a new episode for a re-release of older game (not a remake), not a new standalone thing on source port that's more of its own thing.

Ok, get this guys, a shotunner which has absurd spread and only attacks in melee.

>>9391128
Those rules wouldn't make sense. What would be modifier that would cause ban of said game, if not the type of engine? The fact that it is sold? This would cause ban on Sigil, NERVE and Doom 64 Lost Levels, which would be insane since this is Doom thread.

If Total Chaos, an total conversion would be banned that would mean ban of other total conversions such as Ashes and Golden Souls. Golden Souls series (and REKKR) are made by our anons, so that would spit against their face.

If you don't like Wrath, Ion Fury, Total Chaos and Selaco just ignore discussion about them. Banning those would cause insane amount of problems. I don't like Total Chaos either but as gzdoom total conversion there should freedom to speak about it. Mods might be asses some times, but ban policy according the engine is fine as it is. It makes sense.

>>9389636
Different poster, but I've had a lot of fun with Marathon's and Dark Forces' bestiary / weaponry balance, custom levels and gameplay loops. Are you sure your opinion is fact?

>>9391226
You can just pirate it.

Is it really bad to copy paste a location from my old /vr/ map into unrattled? Its sort of a try to build off that map into something entirely different, just a homage or something - the room isnt really that important - only to setup a continuity

>>9391395
You could try it and see if it comes out good.

>>9391368
How about a non-retarded shotgunner who doesn't eats 4 out of 7 pellets in each shell before firing them?

Punisher and Painkiller. Both protags are dudes in trenchcoats. Both games released in April 2004. What's up with that?

>>9391354
>That's the logic I'm following in this particular case.
Yeah it’s some weird “anti paid mod” bias where discussion is fine until a pricetag becomes latently attached - then it’s suddenly not fine. It’s a slippery slope, if new standalone TCs with a pricetag aren’t allowed than why allow discussion of new standalone TCs without a pricetag? And TCs like Robo Kart aren’t even a shooter so they should be shot down as well, right?
It’s so petty that it feels more like it arose from someone being butthurt about their discussion of Unity games getting deleted.

>>9391426
Poles are soulless upright walking snakes who lack any creativity.

>>9391404
This would make it too powerful. What I currently did however does fire right amount of pelettes from double-barrel, but it didn't learn magic to make more pellets Doomguy knows.

What's the issue of adding Arcane Dimensions on Quake Steam official add-on list? Does Bethesda need the rights to put it there?
Are the devs butthurt that the revenue will go to Bethesda?

>>9391520
Hexen 2 and other non-Quake assets would have to be replaced, and they would have to get permission from EVERYONE who has directly or indirectly contributed to AD to cover themselves legally. That means anyone to contributed a map, code, model, or even a single texture.
Some of those things could just be replaced, but id isn't going to do it, and they probably won't pay anyone else to.

>>9388362
I want a remake. It was my first boxed PC game. It took me about a year to play it because I had no idea what "Direct Draw error" meant.
I was so bummed. Later I figured out about something called graphics drivers.

>>9391520
>Does Bethesda need the rights to put it there?
Precisely that. They need the rights to Hexen 2 stuff and they need everyone's agreement.

>>9389636
>Ion Fury
I support Ion Fury. You can see on the dev blogs they hand made everything, lights, shadows.
All that old school goodness and hand crafted stuff. It should be here as an honorary mention.
Maybe even Wrath. But not Prodeus even though it's goat too.

>>9391527
>Hexen 2
Didn't know it used them too. It will be difficult then. Maybe there will be an unofficial way to put it in there. It's easy to play outside of Steam anyways.

A little environmental destruction goes a long way: https://files.catbox.moe/4ylxd1.webm

Yes I suck at this game.

>>9391480
>t. self-loathing Pole

>>9391426
It was still a freshly post-Matrix world at that point. Unless you’re referring to Postal dude who was likely more inspired by those Colorado kids.

>>9391518
Different poster: I don't know how powerful shotgunners are, because I reload my last save whenever I get hit by one.

>>9391518
It would only be too powerful if their pellets will be dealing the same amount damage as your shotgun pellets.

>>9391543
>https://files.catbox.moe/4ylxd1.webm
>NOOOOOO! MY PRECIOUS OFFICE WORK I'VE BEEN SLAVING AT THIS ENTIRE DAY REDUCED TO ATOMS!
Damn, wagie destruction must be very satisfying

>>9391194
Happy birthday dude

>>9391332
>Hey, so here's a suggestion, shut your fucking mouth. I've been trying to contain the scope creep here.
Calm down Choppy. It's as simple as putting the resource pack back in the OP a year from release and setting a 3-4 week deadline for new maps. The hard work's already being done, so I guess you'll just have to wait and see how phase one is received to fully get out of this crunch mode mindset and weigh your options for the future.

>>9391054
>>srb2kart moment

>>9391395
Id copied maps from Wolfenstein into Doom 2 and maps from Doom into Quake, I say go for it.

>>9391170
Drake was/is wierd in how you have the NG eat 1 nail per 2 shots in order to make both it and SNG still have superior DPS over the buffed shotguns
>nvm what I said earlier, those rockets are both homing and fired in salvos - also all the secret roulette enemies who make lingering flames on the ground can go fuck a cactus

play doomzero
its good

>>9391641
I get you, but I don't want to get up to something like that until 94 Protons is in a form which can be considered complete. MAAAYBE we could talk about additional level submissions then, assuming there are people who are actually interested in that, but I have some obligations I need to resume, too.

Right now, I don't want to think about any of that, I need to focus some.

Anybody get microjitters in Old Unreal 227j?
In 227i it's fine but in j it seems like objects are moving at 60fps or something while framerate is 144+.
Tried x64 and regular bins

>>9391165
I miss enforcers don't being dumb turrets, I miss infighting enemies not arbitrarily re-engaging you after they fail to damage their new targets for 15 seconds (how am I supposed to keep track of that), I even miss some design rationale consistency (stingy with drops, but now gibbed ogres DO drop rockets?)
I'm not that anon but Copper is the mod I dislike the most, the only one I dislike actually. It's the definition of two steps forwards two steps back, change for the sake of change. If you want to make things "harder" you do that via level design not by nonsense tweaking.

>>9391624
wow this is based
no desks though?

>>9391950
Yeah, haven't gotten around to that. That is just a test map for my actual Malice level anyway - for figuring out how far I can push things with maphacks and whatnot.

>>9387565
Best tutorial to get me started with Ultimate Doombuilder? The ones in the sticky are from over 10 years ago. Are they still just as good? I just figured a lot has probably changed in 13 years.

>>9391226
>a commercial release on GZDoom shouldn't be allowed.
why?

>>9391194
celebrate your birthday with a deathmatch?

>>9387567
Divergence, a 2-map long Heretic wad.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132276-divergenceheretic-2-maps/

>>9392120
Is it compatible with Wayfarer's Tome?

Wait so if someone makes a game in GZDoom they're not allowed to sell it?

>>9392169
He's referring to the discussion of games in this thread being allowed. Obviously they are allowed to sell them, because they do.

>>9387567
GZDoom 4.9.0 released
https://github.com/ZDoom/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.9.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76741

are there any good, non-realm667 doom-ready texture resources?

>>9392234

>>9392278
>this one will always prefer the system's user folder
rrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeEEEEEEEEEE

Why is it so hard for developers to just keep all their files neatly in the install folder? Why is it 2022 and there's still no shortage of retards who like system user folder or registry?

What is all this shit and why does are health pickups consumed when already at full health?

>>9392234
Yawn
Call me when 5.0 is out

>>9392286
Cuz engine preferability, that being said, that you can choose to use a portable version.

>>9392292
Those items show up in your Inventory, in like the "Junk" page or something.
I think they're only used for selling back at the base.
Also, you could always pick up Health Bonuses at full HP I believe. Soul spheres, too.

>>9392298
>Those items show up in your Inventory, in like the "Junk" page or something.
Can't find how to access this inventory but I'll take your word for it, thanks
>Also, you could always pick up Health Bonuses at full HP I believe. Soul spheres, too.
I meant regular medikits, but I realize now that my max HP was higher than I thought it was, my bad

>>9392286
The post goes on to explain that commercial games usually get installed to folders they don't have write permissions for. "I installed GZDoom in Program Files, why don't my settings save" has been a recurring problem for years prior to it even being possible to use GZDoom for commercial games anyway.

>>9392308
nvm found the wiki article, thanks again
https://doom-rpg-rla.fandom.com/wiki/Loot

>>9392278
Based, running the survey on my 64c/128T Threadripper + 4090 so they ditch the poorfags.

>>9392286
that only makes sense for windows where you don't actually install anything and everything's just a random exe scattered somewhere on the drive

>>9392296
If only there were a portable version of PsyDoom. I had to resort to Link Shell Extension to get a data folder that would sync between devices.

>>9392315
Commercial games should just toggle an option that does this, you should not configure your Doom engine for "commercial game suitability" out of the box.
Also, WTF it that with "per-IWAD" saves? That's better than nothing, but still kinda useless - it should be "per-PWAD". If they all go together into the system's folder, that's a colossal nuisance.

Finally messed up and got stung by the Hexen2 scorpion in AD, was having two differently functioning poison debuffs really neccessary?

>>9389550
>I will never be able to enjoy Duke3D ever again after seeing that image

ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS. IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN. SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO POST THAT SHIT.

>>9392372
Working on my first map of the game properly.
still very early version but it's finisced at least.

>>9392372
>M*THERFUCKERS
was that really cessary?

Say something nice about it.

>>9392384
Yes. Every fucking week. Now are you gonna step up with something you've been working on?

>>9392384
Allow me to repeat myself yet again - YOU ARE M-

>>9392387
Great box art, it's some of my favorite art associated with the game.

>>9392372
Building MBF21 bestiary, too bad MBF21 doesn't have anything to glue monsters to the ceiling properly.

>>9392372
My Unrattled map

>>9392372
Working on my Unrattled map as well. It feels weird not to be working with Doom 2 enemies. But I'm glad to return to the basics.

>>9392278
>>9392286
I don't understand why anyone wants that shit NOT stored together with the game's files, this shit was stupid and annoying in 2004, and it's stupid and annoying in 2022.

>>9392403
>MBF21 bestiary
What all do you have so far? Are you the one who made that "Wizard boss" that throws hammers and shit?

>>9392497
Yeah, that's me. But hammer-throwing Wizard is going to a different project, this is just gimmicky experiments.
So far I've got flamethrower zombie, cube that tries to ram you when killed, Tentacles seen here, Pinkie that accelerates when close to you, zombie with a sawn-off shotgun, jetpack zombie, sniper zombie that optionally turns invisible when not shooting, pistol zombie and most hacky ceiling turret in the universe.

>>9392372
First map's complete. Par time is about 1:15.
I've been having source port troubles related to how I'm adding my own maps (as a new episode), but they're mostly presentation discrepancies, like crispy-doom showing Sigil's map titles on the automap, or Woof! and GZDoom rendering the skybox incorrectly.
I've already started the second map, but before I get into it, I'm making sprites for a Cacodemon replacement since the Doom 1 roster feels fucking barren without a flying enemy besides Lost Souls.

>>9392372
Working on my hellish map for Unrattled.

>>9392506
Yeah, I wanna see that released. You beat me to the punch making that Sniper Zombie in MBF21, and I like the way the Tentacles and Flamethrower Zombies are looking, too.

>>9392529
Well, sprites are all from Realm667, I didn't make them. I'm just figuring out what I can do with MBF21.

>>9392328
>t.graf's goonboi

>>9392384
no, it wasn't

>Perfect Dark is now 100% decompiled and recompiled

..And what difference does this make when there's already a GE/PD Emulation bundle that features mouse support?

>>9392563
Pc ports and mods!

>>9392563
>>9392568
Based. Can't wait

>>9392372
Making a moonbase with comfy amenities going nuts with the beta textures for Unrattled
First map so I just found out what pegs are and why my doors would only open from the west

>>9392349
>it should be "per-PWAD"
you could already do that by changing the working directory. could even do per-mod per-pwad.
this new update makes it so new gzdoom won't find any of these old saves, and older versions won't find the new saves. isn't updating gzdoom magical?

>>9392514
Looks hard for a first map.

Dumb ass boomer here figuring I'd ask and get more info, wondering how to best check out Doom 64 Ethereal Breakdown, haven't really fiddled with D64 too much. I picked up the Doom 64 EX archive and the SDL fix patch, should that be all I need or will I also need the D64 IWAD along with it?

>>9392729
It's just musou.

>>9391912
227j was supposed to fix things like waterfalls and torches moving at the wrong speed depending on framerate, and I somewhat recall it doing so. I don't know if it would make a difference, but what renderer are you using?

>>9392514
You are huge, that means you have huge kupo nuts.

>>9389871
>>I had three and the angelic armorset on one run, it felt like a pure cheese run.

I feel that Doom 3 RoE ending was cut into that white light shit because of the ecksbawkes hdd size for expansion packs and patches
And that Lost Mission ending is using the cut ending for RoE.

What do you think about brightmaps pwad add-on for vanilla/boom families of ports? Might be a neat thing to implement with crayon texture pack of Dream of /vr/ when it comes to be, light up liquids and special switches to play with contrast in low lighting sections. Same thing was done in Wormwood for glowing cacodemon eyes. Sorry for shoddy webm, I wasn't aware what I was doing.

thoughts on sunder's hive mother enemy?

>>9393073
Holy shit. I love these.

>>9393078
Looks pretty hip.

>>9393073
I looked into the patch, it's combined work of tweaked palette with edited colormap. Eyes and lights of various sprites and textures were given unique colors so they would glow.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120934

>>9393073
I like brightmaps a lot, they're that kind of visual enhancement mod which jives really well with the original game's aesthetics.
I think GzDoom does it in a more practical way, where it references maps for how to light up parts of sprites and textures exactly, and to various strengths, rather than just selecting certain palette ranges to fullbright (which can have certain issues with some custom textures), but for the most part, the way Crispy/Woof does it still works well, and is a cool touch to add to the game.
Seeing the shine of a Pinkie's eyes or a Caco's mouth in the distant dark is just a gorgeous visual touch, and just the same for a glowing computer monitor or an ominous evil gargoyle.

Definitely one of my favorite features sourceport devs have done for Doom.

>>9393073
it would probably be trivial to implement some brightmap lump on prboom/dsda side.
instead you're re-shuffling the palette, which sacrifices compatibility with most gameplay mods in favor of compatibility with 1.5 users not using gz.

>>9393073
Doom has a fair few redundant colors in the palette anyway. So I'm all for these.

>>9387567
nirvana interviews sandy petersen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahjodwO1XBU
i'm 18 minutes in and... dat glorious sandy petersen energy

>>9392372
Did alternative small HUD for tiny resolutions.

>>9393078
I would.

>>9393104
>nirvana
Never heardof this dude but it's good to have another doom radio sorta thing.

>>9393135
he made fractured worlds, entropy, and some of my favortie maps in haste, amongst other really nice maps. phenomenal level designer and very knowledgeable about doom, and has a talent for these interviews. the ribbiks one is amazing too

>>9393094
It wouldn't sacrifice anything if I were to include additional pk3 patch reversing the changes done to the main wad in favor of more elegant solution, as anon described below. It shouldn't pose a problem for both parties, unless there's something I'm missing?
>I think GzDoom does it in a more practical way, where it references maps for how to light up parts of sprites and textures exactly, and to various strengths, rather than just selecting certain palette ranges to fullbright (which can have certain issues with some custom textures)

>>9393180
having two different palettes in wad+pk3 (and two sets of textures) sounds like a logistical and load order nightmare, but I guess it's possible.

>>9389005
the sources of unreal, ut99, unreal 2, ut2004 and unreal championship 2 were leaked years ago, I have them

>>9390324
ut2004
turok 2
jackie chan

>>9391170
That wasn't me but that guy is pretty cool. I love Drake. Probably my favorite mod.
>>9391165
Copper is just fucking boring. It's Quake with some "qol improvements" but every second map jam is done with Copper and I'm so fucking bored of it. I'd honestly rather every jam be AD.

Should I play Thy Flesh Consumed before Doom 2? the first level is filtering me

>>9393262
TFC's first two levels are the hardest, it drops off at that point. If you care about playing in release order, then play Doom 2 first.

A buddy of mine is trying to learn the tools to make a total conversion for gzdoom to learn and make a game but he's struggling a LOT with basic things and knowing how to figure them out with google. Like didn't know what an iwad is but nearly fully mapped out a decent, for a first attempt, level while trying to make his first few map into an iwad, thinking it's called a megawad for some reason, kind of struggle which genuinely confuses me as a spectator with basically no real doom experience trying to help him with all of this intermittently. With context out of the way, what is the best tools and resources on linux to get into making retail total conversions using gzdoom? He specifically told me to find someone and ask which mapping software between gzdoombuild or doombuilder2 was better but honestly I would rather like to know what's the best software for this sort of thing on linux in general and the best resources for extensive gzdoom modification so I don't need to ask you guys about dumb questions as often,

>>9393275
imagine one day when you die and you realize this is what you spent your life worrying about, lol

>>9393278
Yeah I phrased my post poorly. Just trying to help my friend out with his game.

>>9391054
>>9391653

>>9393310
Lmao I was hoping this one would get posted. Poor Ika.

>>9393275
>gzdoombuild or doombuilder2
I don't think any of the doombuilders run on linux. you might have to make do with slade.
between UDB and DBX, UDB is more advanced, but I think in practice it mostly comes down to rectangle/circle modes and thing previews. I haven't dealt with udmf or slopes though, maybe there are massive differences there.

is there a power ranking for weapon modes based on how powerful they are relative to doom 2's vanilla weaponset and average custom megawad? I'd imagine :
>extreme weapons packs on low
>most final doomer sets, high noon drifter, combined arms on medium
>guncaster, trailblazer, russian overkill on high

>>9393317
>I don't think any of the doombuilders run on linux.
Speaking from experience, they technically do, but Ultimate Doom Builder through mono was a minefield of crashes and interface weirdness.
I've been getting used to Eureka, it seems capable of Vanilla/Limit-Removing/Boom mapping, but pretty limited.

>>9393324
DAKKA would be medium-high, Project MSX on High. Burl_Tumd and Babel can be on medium

>>9393310
Pfffthahahaha
This map is kino, fuck you kegan.

>>9393317
>>9393329
Strange that there aren't really good options on Linux considering it's doom. If anything had really good Linux support I would assume it would be tools for doom. Weird.

>>9393324
>>9393347
ah yeah this topic. i too had trouble with UDB under mono, despite comfort running mono, compiling stuff, etc. Mono has rotted a lot over the years.

Next time I try again, I'll try UDB and DBX under wine or under virtualization; I think that's the best option.

eureka is only okay. DESU it's not strange as you say: linux just lacks many of the creative/artistic options that are common on other OSes, since creative/artistic users are unlike to use linux. simple as that.

>>9393361
>linux just lacks many of the creative/artistic options that are common on other OSes, since creative/artistic users are unlike to use linux. simple as that.
Development stuff usually does have it's place on linux though which is what these doom tools are. I'd be one thing if these were like doom sprite editors or something.

>>9393369
sorry, but no. if you look at creative/artistic tooling for almost any niche thing, it does not exist on linux. we've got a whole gamut of doom software off linux (it's not just udb and dbx, there's whacked, slade, etc.), but none on linux. and for other games, it's worse.

the only reason we have source ports etc at all is due to the historical coincidence of id releasing source code.

notice also the general lack of open source game efforts, etc. this all goes together as a pretty consistent thing of artistic/creative types simply not liking linux.

it has always been this way (i've used linux since v0.99).

>>9393391
Pixel art is covered on Linux at least. Aseprite works there.

>Blood1's E1M1 has a NapalmGun hidden in the 'super-secret'
>you need to boost yourself off from a still-living cultist/zombie to reach it
There goes another vidya I'll never get to 100%

>>9393440
You can grab the napalm without enemies to use as platforms, just jump from the hole near the exit to reach it.

>>9393440
You don't need a boost, just a specific angle for your jump from the ledge.

>>9393445
Okay I misremembered that one but ever doing that at first try is still crazy - kinda reminds me how some scripted spawn events in Serious Sam 1 fail to trigger if you manage to kill certain enemy waves too fast

>>9392563
Improvements on actual hardware.
Modern shit like anisotropic filtering and different texture filtering options like removing the N64 filtering
60+fps
Range of resolutions
Modern controls natively that aren't hacks
Mods
Level editor if someone wants to make one
Online networking if someone makes a source port
Improved ai, bug fixes. The world's the fans oyster.

>>9393637
Plutonia, innit?

>>9393637
Love Plutonia, love this

i hate to say this, but

you destructorfags might be onto something. and i`m not even a milsim guy.

>>9393310
We live in a world where Doom modding is so flexible that we have a webm of Kegan kart racing an airplane.

>>9393637
>>9393645
>>9393646
>map11
YEP

>>9393670
that's not doom, it's gzdoom

kegan we gave you mbf21, come back now

>>9393637
This is why Plutonia is better than TNT

>>9393683

>>9393668
Milsim’s all aim to provide realistic encounters. HD is in some weird catch 22 territory since it’s completely opposite to that concept, and at the same time it attempts to make its fights with demons feel as realistic as possible.

>>9393670
That's not an airplane. That's the Vic Viper.

>>9393679
I don't even think I can make any gameplay mods with mbf21. You boys are going to have to settle for these last few mods I got planned.
Also I'm touching up Blaz's HUD. I kinda want to make his life and ammo bars those bubbles you see in Illusion of Gaia and Actraiser 2

>>9393694
>last few
you're here forever, my dude

How do I use Heretic monsters in Doom? I'm brand new to making maps.
I thought maybe I just added Heretic.wad to the resources but that breaks everything, guess I can't load two iwads at a time. Is there a way to pull just the monsters out of Heretic.wad somehow and create a separate wad with just the monster data?

>>9393729
Monster behaviour is hardcoded, so you can't just merge them. You need some mean to alter hardcoded values.
MBF21 for example lets you write code for new monsters, so you can just add resources in, but you would need to rename them. There's also Decorate, zScript and more for various ports but I know little about them.

>>9393745
So putting Disciples in Doom is a more complicated process than just dragging and dropping a file. That kinda sucks but I guess I'll figure it out as time goes on, it's not a huge deal. I just like wizards, and I saw that Realm667 had a bunch of custom monsters. Made me think maybe it was easier than I thought.

>>9393746
Realm667 is for advanced ports. I am not sure which one support it. They have code and sprites and everything so that should be doable if the port is right.
I think gzDoom has standard monsters defined somewhere too in the same syntax, but I didn't investigate. Otherwise monster definitions were part of the code so you won't find it in IWADs.

>>9393749
Oh I'm starting with GZDoom, I was told that making maps for GZDoom was much more lenient and beginner friendly. Eventually I would like to make vanilla compatible maps. I just really wanted to use specifically Heretic's Disciples, maybe Gargoyles. I know Ad Mortem had Gargoyles in it and that was vanilla compat. Ad Mortem had a few monsters I'd love to use in maps, primarily gargs and the skeletons.

>>9393750
Ad Mortem is MBF21 wad. Basically MBF21 adds 99 free slots to define new things as long as they are named in a specific way.
If you open the resource pack for Ad Mortem, it still contains DECOHACK lump which contains source code for custom monsters. It was then used to compile a DEHACKED lump which is an engine-readable (But not human-friendly) mod script.
Even with vanilla you can do similar things but you need to replace existing objects.
You can get decohack and its guide around here https://mtrop.github.io/DoomTools/decohack.html

>>9393752
Fascinating, it sounds like I have a LOT to learn. I'll bookmark this and give it a read after I've actually cut my teeth on a few maps without the bells and whistles.

>>9393754
Also, if you want to map for vanilla/limit removing/Boom/MBF I don't recommend starting with gzDoom as your target port - it's more forgiving and you can pick up bad habits from it. The kind of habits that make level collapse hilariously around you.
UDMF is a more complex but more flexible way of mapping for gzDoom only, but I never bothered to learn it.

>>9393758
I'd also like to add that you should learn the fundamental basics of what makes Doom's gameplay fun before you dive into more advanced mapping formats. Just because you CAN do something with UMDF doesn't mean you should.

>>9393760
I've been playing Doom and running tabletop campaigns/making dungeons and modules for tabletop games for a long time, it's actually surprising to me I never tried doom mapping. I THINK I'm comfortable with what makes a map fun, I guess we'll find out.
You guys are very helpful and I appreciate that a lot.

>>9393758
On the subject of bad habits you pick up from gzDoom, I tracked the video that showcases it very well.
https://youtu.be/_oLnqTYB21Y?list=PLYZp53E4M0t8Odtpj81pN_EK7c-wk9JfL&t=419

>>9393770
>tfw you want decino to eventually play your maps but he doesn't play heretic maps
pain

>>9393770
How WOULD you fix this

>>9393770
pure art is what that is

>>9393776
I don't know what's up with HOM in the sky, but the level collapse is caused by using switch action with tag 0.
gzDoom interprets it as "Affect sector behind it" and the rest interprets it as "Affect all sectors with tag 0" - and tag 0 is default so it's pretty much the whole level is ordered to move to where door would go.
In this particular case one would need to either tag the action or switch to D-type action which ignores tag and goes to the sector behind it by default.

>>9393781
HOM in the sky is probably just a wall with no texture, neighbouring a sky ceiling. it would look correct even in dsda opengl, but not in software.

>>9393679
That's not GZDoom, that's SRB2Kart which is a mod of SRB2 which is a mod of Doom Legacy which is a mod of Doom. Get your facts straight nerd.

>>9393773
>tfw decino played your map but it's your worst map ever

>>9393668
speaking of which, how do you acquire more auto-sutures? this is one mechanic i can`t seem to find info on and it keeps filtering me.
do you somehow open medipacks that you find? is there a point in carrying more than one?
or are you just fucked if you get burned too much and should rely on magic for burns?

>>9393773
just find a decino-type fellow who plays heretic maps instead

>>9393853
That's not a thing.

>>9392406
>those cacos in closets like bullets in a magazine

>>9392278
>GZDoom devs yet again fixing what ain't broken

>>9393860
Then become him.

>>9393881
I'm really bad at Heretic despite loving it a lot. I'd have to edit my videos to cut out the parts where I get lost.

>>9393803
literally my submission for Mandela Doom.

>Find a Doom speedrunner that plays random maps
>They use the default GZDoom graphics settings

>>9393853
>>9393860
>>9393881
>>9393882
dafuq?

this person exists, they are called dwars

>>9393909
Dwars is a weird furry but also he hasn't played a Heretic wad in over 6 months.

>>9393832
unloading the auto-sutures from a medkit is not a vanilla HD feature, it's in the ugly as sin addon. Either way just ditch the medkit and open a new one, they come with a free stimpack and blood bag
You can tell whether you're on a stimpack high by your punch speed, taking another stim while your punches are faster will make you have a heart attack a minute or two later

Ugly as sin is worth checking out, it makes the AI a little dumber in that they search for the last position you broke line of sight instead of telepathically knowing your exact location. It also gives them cute flashlights that they wave around in dark areas

>>9393832
Medikits each contain a second flesh applicator and a bloodbag, if you run out of sutures you'll have to drop your applicator and open up another kit

Is Doomworld down?

>>9393948
Works on my machine

>>9393951
Of course right after I make my post it starts working again.