/vr/ - Retro Games

android phone/tablet

PSP

>>923161
Touchscreen buttons? No thank you.

>>923171
stop being such a pleb

>>923161
this would probably be the easiest and cheapest because android phones are everwhere

ASPECT RATIO

>>923174
I don't see how anyone can like them tbh. Rapid tapping seems like it'd be odd as fuck. I just want something like pic related but functional. That ones the dingoo I think, but I hear it has significiant slowdown though

>>923171
>David_Bowie_and_Ross_from_Friends.tiff

I agree, touch screens can be good for games, but not as pretend buttons. Why so many still try to pretend otherwise is a source of frustration to me. Touchscreens could blow away buttons for menu-driven games on the go, and no one ever bothers, instead we just get shitty runner games and awkward-control bejeweled clones (which is itself a weaker clone of Puzzle League).

>>923163
This

I use a PSP. The only downsides are:

1. SNES emulation has compatibility issues

and

2. SMS emulation doesn't support FM synth

Other than that, couldn't be happier. Here's my current setup, incidentally:

CFW: 6.60 ME

Emulators:

NES: NesterJ 1.2 +RM
SNES: SNES9xTYLmecm mod v. 19
GBC: Masterboy
SMS: Masterboy
Genesis: PicoDrive
Atari 2600: PSP2600
Colecovision: Colem

It also runs PSX games--just get PSX2PSP and convert them.

Before this, I used a Dingoo A320. It worked well enough, but the controls were uncomfortable. If you choose to use one, make sure you install Dingux, because many of the default emulators don't run well.

>>923264
>>923278

Yeah, I just wish I could run old computer emus with a bluetooth keyboard on it. Gonna be trying that with an old ipad as well, but still would be nice on a small device like a PSP.

>>923161
>>923171
Isn't an android device + controller + device mount really the most flexible emu machine besides those dedicated Chinese Android gaming devices? Way more powerful than a PSP, right?

>>923196
Get one of these (JXD s7300b), all the stability of android OS but with physical buttons (mapped as virtual keyboard keys) and mapping software to emulate screentaps. I got mine 2 weeks ago and I fucking love it.

Pic motherfucking related. This shit goes with me everywhere now, I just need to find a hardshell case for it since it's as wide on the short edge as a 7" tablet but is about 9 inches the other way. other than the battery life (on par with a 3ds, 3-4 hours max without a recharge) it's decent. cost about ~$150 from willgoo in china with free DHL shipping ordered it a sunday got it the upcoming friday.

I use the free retroarch android app which emulates better than the stock apps that come with this.

It even does virtual boy and psx. so far snes emulation is fullspeed even on superFX games and runs everything I've thrown at it fine.

Only problem I had with the device at all was I tried the 1.7 core custom firmwares for it and it would freeze and crash a lot, e-mailed willgoo support and they emailed me a link to original firmware 2.1 core which fixed the freezing and haven't had a problem since (going on a week now)

Oh, and the analog stick and crosspad are mapped to the same presses. some people seem bothered by this, for what I play it's not an issue.

all in all, worth $150 for me and runs all the apps and games I already have on my android phone.

PSP or your smartphone with a gamepad attachment

>>923291
Yeah, PSP's have a max cpu with wifi off of 333 mhz in a single core processor and 32-64 mb of ram, most android devices begin around 1ghz and have 1-4 cores depending and run 1-2 gb of ram.

my jxd tablet >>923293 is a dual core 1.5 but I think my current firmware was clocked down to 1.2 for heat issues. it warms up about as much as my galaxy s4 work phone so I don't worry much about the heat since the battery runs low before it gets anywhere near hot enough to become mostly noticible.

Don't get me wrong, I love my PSP and bought it at a bargain $100 about 5 years ago from the camera shop my ex worked at. Got it because it still had 3.52 firmware on it and sat there forever so I used a free TIFF exploit to put m33 custom firmware on it, but after a while I realized it was only really useful for it's own indended use, and for anything pre-snes.

I also bought an icontrolpad and bracket set to use with my iphone 4s but It just got too tedious trying to bluetooth sync and map a gamepad every time i was on the train to work or home. I turn my jxd tablet on, pick a game and play now, so much less bullshit.

>>923293
>>923328
Thanks for this. I have a GS3 and iPhone 5 (well, I can choose between the two any time) and was planning on just using the GS3 with a Wii U Pro Controller or Dual Shock 3 or whatever. But if I'm going to carry the controller around I may just consider a dedicated device instead for a little more (I don't own either controller yet, so that would figure in to the cost).

>>923341
Whatever you do, don't order from a place called lightake. their forums are horrifying and I caught them leaving 5-star fake reviews for themselves, every other 1-2 star review on resellerratings is a real account with multiple posts but the 5-stars were made the day of the 5-star posting. red flag.

I swear I'm not a willgoo shill but their prices and free DHL shipping are awesome since it's a motherfucker trying to get these devices outside of china at list price(amazon lists them starting at $180)

so make sure if you order from them, pick the bundle link for the free dhl shipping, they give you a bunch of shit with it like a collapsable stand and an 8gb sd card (which I swapped out my phone's 16gb card after i realized how much this thing can do) and a usb OTG cable so you can plug in usb hard drives, usb ethernet, or usb controllers to it.

glad I could help. I haven't been this excited in years about a device that does so much rad shit.

>>923293
Isn't it unconfortable those shoulder buttons so upper?

>>923360
I have long fingers so it doesn't bother me, but I could see it as a valid argument.

>>923360
Hey, good point.

What are the ergonomics on those things like? Nintendo, Sony, etc. do a crapload of R&D for ideal ergonomics on d-pads, buttons, ideal weight, etc. that I'm sure the Chinese companies just don't do. Are any of them as comfortable as a professionally-designed system?

>>923368
all things considered, the jxd pad feels a lot like a heavier more curved 3ds xl.

no rough or sharp edges either, all curves like most tablets. more or less since it's not uncomfortable I don't end up having much of a review other than it doesn't suck. you feel it warm on your fingers a little but it's like holding a kindle fire or google nexus tablet with buttons.

Analog sticks resistance feel like 3ds ones but hard plastic with tread. the buttons don't seem to stick but as asked earlier, the triggers are a little far for people with small hands.

aside from being not retro, using the triggers and dual analogs with the mapping software works pretty impressively well for games like dead trigger though or for any of the dual analog shooters on the play store so there's that besides the free emulation aspect.

also plays one of my other favorite nonretro games perfectly with the mapping software - gta vice city.

Wasn't some fella talking about getting a mobile emulation device made to spec? I seem to remember him posting specs and stuff.

>>923402
yup I remember that guy too, I love how much android is really pulling as the base OS for these projects because you can typically dump a play store apk on there and download whatever emulator that's already thrown together. Only thing I hate is the limited battery life but eventually there will be breakthroughs in efficiency and alternatives like solar charging adapters that can charge your system from your backpack while you're out that will materialize as technology gets cheaper.

I'm still amazed that I can run apps on my PHONE now that I used to need a huge 386 to play as a kid and I'm still young enough to appreciate it all and grow with it. This is a good time to be living if you like games and computers.

>>923396
Thanks again for the details. Sounds pretty good, with maybe some room for even more improvements in future devices (triggers).

I guess the other things I'm curious about are the screen (brightness, resolution/scaling, response) and the speakers/sound quality.

Plus you can install other apps on it like any other Android device, right? Like third-party web browsers?

>16:9 screen for NES games

>>923171
No can do?

>>923158

>NES games
>16:9

stay pleb

>>923171
>implying all android tablets are buttonless.

go Google JXD s5110b. 5 inch touch screen tablet with physical buttons.
It'll handle all those things you listed plus more.
PSP = not as good at SNES

Pic related.

OP comes for advice, his first response to advice is to tell them they are wrong. Sheesh.

As stated earlier, s7300b if you want the 7 inch screen.

>>923363
Do you still have to pay customs with wilgoo?

>>923692
I never said anybody was wrong, I just said I personally dont want to use touchscreen controls.

Isn't emulation on the PSP only possible with an old firmware? One that would be hard to find a device still using?

The android ones with physical buttons sound doable, but they seem a bit large, I want something around the GBA's size (a tad larger maybe) and not too pricey (only trying to spend about $200 at the most)

gp32 blu

Would a PSP 3000 run GBA/SNES/NES roms nicely?

Is there a guide on how to do all the custom firmware junk to the installing of emulators for someone who bought one new?

Android Phone/Tablet.

And for those who instantly say "Eww, Touchscreen Controls", you can easily connect a PS3 wireless controller, or any number of other wireless bluetooth controllers. It's 2013, touchscreen controls are outdated. We use controllers.

Seriously, though, Android's far superior to other hardware (with a proper controller), as it's basically a PC, and has a wider array of software emulation.

>>924234

My PSP 3000 with 6.60 (last official fw) can run cfw and emulators just fine.

>>924303

Yes, I personally haven't had any problems with emulation of those consoles. Run your PSP at 333 MHz and with the newest emulator versions and almost everything will run fine.

http://wololo.net/cfw4dummies/ everything you need to get started.

I'm thinking getting one of these, it's the same price of a high end Android tablet and has buttons.

>>924381

Isn't that used exclusively for streaming games from your PC?

>>924394

Just a feature, it's pretty much like an other android device so I see no reason why it can't handle emulation.

So everybody says the SNES emulation on PSP sucks, what about PSVita?

>>924705
Nah son
I dont think thatll work

>>924705You can't emulate anything on vita. Only on the virtual psp in the vita. you can't use vita hardware in psp mode.

>>924381

Why does nobody emulate using a flashcard on an old DS?

>>924771

Are you kidding? DS has a completely pathetic CPU even compared to the PSP and a screen whose resolution is below 240p

>>924794
How much CPU does a SNES game need though?

>>924806

Depends on what level of accuracy you are demanding. SNES9x 1.39 or 1.43 based ports have lower CPU requirements than modern SNES9x 1.5x but are also noticeably much less accurate, particularly where audio is concerned.

SNES9x-Next, an optimized version of SNES9x post-1.52, requires an ARM Cortex A9 to run most games full speed.

I wish that the open pandora wasn't so expensive. It looks so good.

>>923158
why noone has commented on this disgraceful stretched ratio?

>>924846

Read the fucking thread, faggot.

This here's my shit

>>925123
Thats not very portable

>>923158
If you get a PSP, be warned: The weird screen resolution (it's fucking wide have you seen it) makes NES and Genesis emulation a bit of a strain. Especially for NES; either you get used to gameboy-tier screen and play it in 1x resolution, or you stretch it out to 1.5x and it all just looks... Off. At least to me.
Haven't played much Genesis, though when I played Rocket Knight there were several fps drops.

Opinions about the GCW Zero?

>>924303
SNES works like shit on the PSP, GBA isn't much better

>>925882

That's an overexageration. It runs SNES just fine with the latest available emulator.

>>925759
Things they are still working on:
>Lack of an OpenGL driver
>Sticky D-Pad
>More games and emulators
>Shipping the damn things

There's not much to be said until they get their shit together.

I also have an S7300. It is a pretty awesome emulation machine, and also works great as an eReader and comfy web browser too.

>>923171
>hasn't heard about a JXD S7300

>>925759
no second stick just like the 3DS. don't fucking bother

I just picked up a jxd a1000 for roughly $30.

As long as it plays snes and gba well, I'll be happy

>>925920

But why would you want a 2nd stick if its for classic emulation?

If android is the best option how well does the xperia play work to emulate with? I like how you get dedicated game buttons, but the device is like 3 years old now. Is it to dated, or does it emulate things really well. I assume it is better than the psp at snes games.

Once the Vita gets cracked it'll be the best portable emu.

As of now, depends on what system you're wanting to emulate.

>>925759
>tfw no zero

these are going to be god-tier. can't wait to get my hands on one. one more fucking week

>>927835
That looks so bulky and uncomfortable.
Also that dpad.
its 2013 why the fuck can we not make good dpads anymore?

>>927086
It is the only correct choice.
Same size as the psp go, all the power of android.

>>928217
This. I can't believe anyone can get excited about such a device after looking at it. Nvidia haven't exactly proven themselves as masters of ergonomics.

Version 2 had better look like a proper controller and come out in less than a year, for their sake.

>>927086

It emulates really well.

This anon >>928247
is correct

>>928247
>>928619
It's a dead-end as an Android phone, though. No 4.0, and no more updates planned.

>>928656

No customs? If anything is a good target for cyanogenmod, the experia play is it.

>>923684
>PSP = not as good at
anything but psp

>>925918

I bought one of those. It's fucking terrible.

So what's the latest and best version of the JXD consoles so far? I'm a bit lost with all the different models.

>>929041
The 7300b or 5110b. They're pretty similar spec wise, it's really the difference between a 5 and 7 inch screen.

The 7800 has been announced, which will be the new hottest thing, but there's no real release date on it.

>>929041
s5110b is the latest little one.

>>929049
>>929051

thanks!

MK808B Android Stick

>>929289
So is that basically an Ouya for half the price, without a controller, and more usability? Seems cool.

>>929289

Can you configure at least two controllers at the same time to play multiplayer?

>>929432
With Bluetooth, you should be able to do at least 2 controllers.

>>929470
I had never even considered the possibility of using an android stick as a gaming device.

Like you said, I could just pair a couple ps3 controllers through bluetooth and I would be all set...

>>929580
But can it run all the various games that use special chips on the SNES? That tends to be the limitation on most pieces of hardware.

Anything that can run both StarFox and MarioKart without any noticeable chug is a winner in my book. AFAIK, only the newer JDXs are capable of that.

If anyone can attest to that stick working well as an emulation device, I'm sold.

>>929580
But can it run all the various games that use special chips on the SNES? That tends to be the limitation on most pieces of hardware.

Anything that can run both StarFox and MarioKart without any noticeable chug is a winner in my book. AFAIK, only the newer JDXs are capable of that.

Ok, I hope I get a response to this shit, so please read it over for a second:
I want to play muh 2D platformers. D-pads are shit all around, on practically every controller ever. The only one I am comfortable with is the GBA SP. So, FLASH CARTS. Wrong, only one company sells them, Ebular, and I ordered it in May... It's still not here.
So now I have a crazy idea.... How about I get one of those SP ==> Gamecube cables and use that on Wii emulators! Is that possible? Can I also daisy chain this setup to a Gamecube USB adapter thing? Is any of this shit possible? Thanks if you guys happen to have any information.

>>929774
Jesus Christ, you're a man on a mission.

Have you ever considered just paying a shop for a custom job, and having them replacing a controller Dpad with the GBA SP one? might be worth looking into.

I just managed to download Project 64, and it runs lovely. Few minor ticks and freezing. But overall awesome. However, no way I am going to play it on my laptop. It says it is compatible with the adaptoid. Anyone have any experience with the adaptoid?

Also, I got PCSX 1 and 2. Will PS3 controllers plugged into my laptop work as a controller through the options? Couldn't find a clearcut answer and don't want to go out and buy one if I don't need to

>>929821
>you're a man on a mission.
Man, fuck modern D-pads. I hate change

For the rest, you have to realize that I am poor as shit? Do you want to see my softmodded Wii setup? It's an old 100gb laptop hard-drive hooked up to some sort of drive converter thing my dad gave me. The reason I do this is so that I can play games after my drive broke, AND I AM TOO POOR TO FIX IT.
So, with that being said, how much are these custom jobs, where can I find somebody like this in the GTA, and how does this shit work?

>>929774
>D-pads are shit all around, on practically every controller ever
get a wii classic controller

>>929878
It's decent, definitely a major step up, but it could be way better.
For one thing, the fucking Wii remote takes batteries. And I am poor. So using this thing 24/7 would be impossible.

>>929774
You might want to ask Emulation general on /vg/. Also keep a look out for Wii Emulation threads on here, there crop up every once in a while and have a lot of avid posters.

>>929891
invest in rechargeables

>>929889
>emulation general on /vg/
I didn't even know this shit existed. Thanks!

PSP has a fucking terrible D-pad, emulates SNES like complete shit. Why the fuck would anyone want that?

I want a s7300 badly.

>>929841
Use a wired Xbox 360 controller. Works in every emulator ever.

>>930125
That's true and all, but the 360 has a pretty poor d-pad.

Glad to see they're improving on that with the new controller.

>>930203
Is it going to be a real d-pad? Because the 360 has a silver controller with a revamped d-pad but it's not a "real" dpad like on the Playstation

I have a 7 inch tablet ,more specifically a galaxy tab 2.

is there any kind of gamepad attachment that would work with this and sort of mimic those cool JXD models?

I've only seen people using them with smartphones.

>>930434
Not an attachment but my iControlpad works with any android tablet as long as it supports BluezIME. was kinda expensive when I bought it ($85) and I really should have just waited since they're already working on a second model after supporting the first one for all of like 8 months or so.

Supposedly the Moga controller is decent and you can get those on amazon. I don't know about anything that mounts to a 7" tablet though.

>>930434
Bluetooth controllers will work with the Tablet, but they'll be completely unattached from it. I've looked around, but haven't found any snap on controllers that work with tablets.

>>929891
mayflash wii-to-usb adapter, plugs your classic controller or nunchuk right into the adapter which goes usb and win7 64 already has a driver for it, it'll install automatically.

Search amazon for "wii usb" second result is what you want, the mayflash one.

>>928247
>>928619
So the xperia play is the best option as a portable emulaton device? Not as a phone, but to just use it as an emulator.

>>930635
If you're looking for something small, I'd say so. It's super compact, but can run pretty much anything up to PSX or N64, and has a Dpad, Face buttons, and sort of analog sticks.

>>930239

I have the silver 360 controller. When you twist the dpad into clicky mode, it is actually pretty good. No Nintendo dpad, but better than the playstation dpads, and infinitely better than the 360s first "slippy disc" pad

>>931345
I tried one of those that was on display at best buy. That clicky mode was still garbage compared to play station d pads. IMO no modern controller has a better d pad than the playstation. Nintendo may have better overall pads but they are too small. Sony seems to make a good dpad at the right size.

>>933447
The Wii and Wii U classic/pro d-pads are the right size, shape, and sensitivity. Not exactly the same level as NES/SNES/DMG, but still excellent and clearly the best of the current crop.

>>934765
I feel like those pads are too small. They are a great shape and sensitivity, just too small. If they were made just a little larger I would love them. I got man hands and I want something bigger, I need something substantial to control with.

>>930657
I hope you and all the others guys above are correct. I bought one the other day (before seeing this thread) just for this purpose. Still waiting for it to be delivered, but I'm excited none the less. If these comments are true it may have been the best $65 I have ever spent.

what's the best android app for emulating gba games? thanks in advance

>>936915
RetroArch if you want it quick and easy

>>936916
Thanks. and do you know if roms can be download straight from the cell or do I have to add em by connecting my cell to my comp. Thanks and sorry for the slow reply if you're still here

>>936938
You can download roms from most sites straight to your cell.

I recommend downloading to the computer then copying to the cell though. Its personal preference really though. I just find downloads are faster on my pc. And if I have to un zip a .rar or .7z file its much quicker than using the phone. I like file management using my mouse and keyboard over a touch screen.

>>937136
thanks for the input. I ended up downloading the coolrom app and it stores and unzips the rom conveniently. Just having some problems atm unfortunately due to aspect ratio

>>937161
you should be able to adjust that, when you first start it and you're choosing the system to emulate, in the upper right hand corner there's an icon you can tap to get to settings, in there choose video settings. in video settings choose aspect ratio, 4th option down. you can choose between like 5 or 6 aspects.

>>937196
also it supports Playstation Mobile, which I only installed for Tokyo Jungle Mobile (great game)

>>928898
Yeah there's custom 4.0 roms, there was even an official beta one from Sony that never got pushed. I've had mine for over a year and just stick with 2.3 though.

>>937194
I've tried that but once I rotate the screen it just goes blank unfortunately

>>927835
Isn't that expensive has balls? And running Android?
>>927095
The specs on the Vita are nowhere near those of an S4.

>>923293
>it freezes and freezes and freezes
>get it, it's great

>>937271

it froze with custom firmware thrown together by an amateur developer and runs fine with current firmware, give me a fucking break man.

remember when dark alex's one cfw bricked people's psp's?

yeah, much lower octane of a problem fixed in less than 10 minutes.

I love how out of everything I typed out THAT'S what you pointed out.

>>937428
>remember when dark alex's one cfw bricked people's psp's?

When did this ever happen? Never owned a PSP, but I was under the impression that Dark Alex was the original God of the PSP scene.

>>925759
mips based so its not going to get any modern emulators.

Care to elaborate?

Hey guys, with Android phones all you have to do is download Retroarch, put a few ROMS on an SD card and then it plays perfectly, right? Do you have to install any custom firmwares or anything?

>>938957
That's it, no custom firmware, no jailbreaking.

You might need to enable allow 3rd Party Apps in settings, but that's it.

>>938964
Thank god, holy crap I am so relieved.

>>927792
3 days later and still no zero

well at least they gave an update

said they begin shipping to KS backers on Monday

>>939102
Hopefully they spent the time to fix some of those reported problems, like sticking buttons.

>>939113
They did. All the orders got sent back to the factory to swap out the buttons. That's what last month's delay was all about. I'm trying not to be hyped about it but I can't help it.

>>925759
Now that looks sexy.

Apparently the S7800 is going to be released soon.

Mite b cool.

>>925895
>Lack of an OpenGL driver
Yeah, the sooner that gets done, the better the graphical support for emulation, scaling, possibly filters, and acceleration for stuff like PS1.
>Sticky D-Pad
The kickstarter and retail units supposedly have corrected d-pads and buttons, after the issue came to light with the special edition units.
>More games and emulators
There is a considerable number of existing emulators for the Dingoo A320 running OpenDingux, it's a matter of porting them over and optimising them. Even without optimisation they can run pretty well. Right now they seem more focused on developing the firmware (on which all software will run), and the SNES emulator in particular.
>Shipping the damn things
Thankfully the kickstarter units are finally in Justin's hands and due to start the flashing/shipping process any day now.

I was one of the kickstarter backers, I've been waiting quite a few months now but I am sure it'll be worth it.

>>938259
Actually there are a considerable number of existing MIPS based emulators, for the Dingoo A320 (running OpenDingux as the GCW Zero does) and the PSP.
Being MIPS based, or ARM based like the GP2X systems or OpenPandora has not prevented code being compiled for either kind of system.

MIPS also has an inherent advantage as emulating the PS1 and N64 goes, if they get around to that.

I can see /vr/ actually goes quite slowly these days, this thread has been around for days.

>>930203
Not going to lie, that controller looks ridiculously comfortable.

>>941417
Still going to be horrible for retro.

Xperia Play is probably the cheapest and best option. Runs emulators up to N64 with no issue

>>925759
I'm told it's "gutter trash" by a certain emulator developer

>>923684
>jxd s5110b
does it have a slot for sd card or micro sd?
also, would it be able to run nulldc or pSX v.1.13?
first time seeing these devices and i have some serious time to make up. currently using thinkpad x120e.

>>943061
Yes, in fact your main storage will be a MicroSD. The internal storage is only like 4-8GB, if I remember right. I have a 32GB for my S7300.

There are a good selection of PSX emulators on Android, but no Dreamcast ones as of yet. PSX and N64 are the highest you'll get, besides PSP emulation with PPSSPP.

>>939151
I'm definitely considering this. If I get something, I'm not worried about it not having a 5 inch screen, since I don't plan on having it as something I'll be using portably all the time (or ever maybe).

>>943182
I just saw it will be over $200. So maybe not. Bummer. For that price I would just consider other stuff.

>>943185
I imagine it'll drop as time goes on, will probably be quite a bit lower 6 months from now.

>>943171
does the performance for emulation take a big it going from the s7300 to the 5110b?

>>943230
I believe they have the exact same CPU actually, so none.

For NES, SNES and Gameboy Color I use my DS with an R4 Card

>>928217
Also it looks like the analog sticks should be moved towards the screen a bit more

i have a cheap 1999 thinkpad runing windows 2000/NT and DOS for all my old games. Wired lan only to download roms and enough HDD to store my playlists.

>>925882
SNES is fine for most of the bigger games, not including Super FX games.

GBA works perfectly fine.

>>943263
I find 3DS XL to be severely under powered for SNES. Much worse than PSP.

>>943848
Seconded.
For me, SNES works fine mostly, for some sucks - Kirbys Dream Land 3 I can't get to play fine, too laggy.

GBA works flawlessly though, I have yet to encounter a game it doesn't.

>>941602
Im the guy from >>936230
I could not be happier with my purchase. I wish my saved games from my pc would work with android emulators, but that is a problem Id imagine that would be on any portable system.

My only real complaint is the analogue touch pad things seem to act as close/quit game buttons when brushed up against. Does anyone know of a way to fix this?

>>939568
>Being MIPS based, or ARM based like the GP2X systems or OpenPandora has not prevented code being compiled for either kind of system.
It does when part of the code is assembly written for a specific kind of processor. Thats what I meant.

>>923293
I looked at these and it seems that its tricky to map stuff. On my xperia play I just mapped buttons by pressing them but it seems more complex on these.
Is the screen on them glass like a phone or soft plastic like an exposed screen.

>>946116
Ah, yeah that's understandable.

Android + good controller addon is your best bet.


If you don't want a phone, PSPs are good for their low power. The neo-geo emulator can run stuff like garou mark of the wolves at 60 fps, stupidly impressive for a 333mhz processor. It also runs PSX games perfectly and of course you get the choice of actual PSP games.

>>930434

THis should work, technically. I have a 7 inch tablet as well...

http://www.consideredwords.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DimeKlip_DIY_guide.pdf

I had to install cyanogenmod on my galaxy tab to get it to read playstation 3 controllers, though.

You can play use the homebrew channel on the Wii U now can't you?

How does the Wii U controller work as a portable if I just want to play things around the house?

i use my android phone for gba games. the only games you can play well on it are RPGS seeing as it has a touch screen

I know this is a dedicated device thread, but does anyone have a good reference as to the best emulators available for Android? The one in the sticky is a little... dusty.

>>950260
Retroarch does a lot of shit right, and emulates all retro sega systems pre-saturn, snes, nes, virtual boy, wonderswan, ngp, mame 0.78 doom, quake, and cave story too, among others. just get the wads for doom, the paks for quake and the free files from pixels website for cave story english (or the original if you can read japanese) and open them in the emulator directly.

The only thing it really doesn't have is n64 emulation. for that I use n64oid.

I also prefer FPSE to the psx emulator in retroarch because I'd already bought it and I like the interface.

as far as OLD mame and better speeds go for mame4droid. it's tricky with the current build because the rom directories are fucked up. I figured it out but forgot to post to the comment in the play store. in your roms folder you need to put a folder called MAME4ALL and a subdirectory called roms in that one then choose the first roms folder as the directory for your roms then it works fine and finds em all as long as they're the goodset or if you clrmame'd them first.

also, don't forget you can get free dosbox official, and scummvm is hosted and has shitloads of plugins for tons of old retro systems, even sierra agi and sgi.

>>950449
Thanks!

>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Color-4-3-4GB-MP3-MP4-MP5-Player-TV-OUT-Game-console-Video-Camera-For-PSP-/290925957807?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_PortableAudio_MP3Players&hash=item43bc89d2af
should i get this? looking for a cheap handheld to PS1 emulation

>>943871
3DS mode is still not hacked, how can you know?

Got my JXD 5110 today. Just want to say I'm fully satisfied with it. I can play nes, snes, mega drive, gba and ps1 without any trouble.
My only complain is that it's a little unconfortable to hold and play, but I think it's just get used to it.

>>954979
how's the battery life?

>>945746
you need to go in to the settings of the emulator and remap them

>>923293

The only downside is that this is not a phone.

Otherwise, I'd get it.

I don't want to be carrying two things with me at all times to game.

>>923293
Yeah buddy. I play this to kill time on the train and I get asked about it at least once a week. I got tired of repeating JXD S7300 so I just say "google jxd gamepad 2." I've gotten way more than $150 from this.

PROTIP: Use the community firmware, it's way better.

>>939151
Oh shit, I saw some leaked investor sneak peeks but FINALLY confirmation. Damn those are some good looking specs. I've tried to emulate past a PSX on the S7300 but it's really shit. PSP emu would be suh-weet.

>>955962
I cant seem to find the right place in retroarch to do that.
I go to Settings>settings>input settings then... I disable the auto detect option and go down to the custom binds options. But they never seem to work, or have every button as an option. I cant set them there, and and after I set up controls there I end up with less buttons working. Like the option/setting button. It emulates the ps1 fantastically, it would just be nice for those to work properly.

>>956192
Woah shit, what? This is the JXD S7800, correct? I would fucking kill to have Metroid Prime on the go.

>>956384
TECHNICALLY it emulates, but it's unplayable. It takes 9 minutes to get to the start screen. I got bored before it could even load the mission. But everything PS1 and lower runs flawlessly.

>>956393
Ah that sucks. I also realized it can't be the S7800, so I guess it's the S7300. I've been kinda considering getting one of these, just to have it loaded up with emulated games and stuff. How good is it? I've heard some people say the default firmware is shit and that it has a lot of problems.

>>939102
a week later and still no zero

>>942150
must have been the retro arch guy. there's a locked thread on the dingoonity board where he got aggressive then left in a huff.

>>956192
>>956182
>>923293
Totally ordering one of these on my next payday. Secret of Mana and Paper Mario would be neato as fuck to play on this.

>>956182

I've really been tempted to get one of these, not that particular model. But in general. Do I need a custom firmware like the PSP to play roms or is just plug in the rom files and go?

>>956464
I ordered mine from Lightake because it was a few dollars cheaper than WILLGOO, but the shipping was literally 4 weeks. I say the few bucks aren't worth the wait, order it from WILLGOO ... plus it came preloaded with the WILLGOO app so they're coming from the same source

>>956532
Just load ROMs... actually, you won't believe it, not only does it have full versions of emulators preloaded, it actually stores some ROMs in the cloud for you (what the ads call "GAMEX CENTER") I don't even know how they're getting away with that buuut it's pretty fuckin sweet that they're not being coy.

tl;dr The PSP is a snooty bitch that has to be talked into emulating, but JXD came here to fuck.

Nvidia Shield is the most powerful ARM handheld device currently, according to the RetroArch devs who received units from Nvidia

>>928247
Mah nigga. My one complaint is the touchpads. I wish they would've used sticks instead. Runs everything much better than I expected.

>>936915
GBA.emu, there should be ways to get the apk for free

>>958521
Great, now all they need is a 100% clone of a Nintendo-designed d-pad and the thing won't be worthless.

>>956182
Do you reccomend any firmware? I'm just using the official 2.1.

>>956641

Interesting...I may get one in the future then.

And none of these still ain't powerful enough to emulate Daggerfall or Morrowind decently.

I'm starting to think we'll never be able to.

>>923158
11.6 inch laptop. Wireless gamepad optional but recommended.

>>924824

It keeps lowering in price pretty consistent, I just know one day its going to be sold out and I wont ever get one anyway

So how is the JXD S7300? I've been kinda looking at it, and the Archos Gamepad. Wanted something to emulate classic games and play some newer Android shit as well.

>>923158
Has anyone here bought one of those clip on gamepads for Android?
I'm thinking of buying a ''Gametel''

Speaking of Android and PSP, how would PPSSPP run on the Google Gaming tablets? I've heard it's pretty impressive and stable.

>>953838
Best choice for handheld PS1 emulation is PSP or Vita.

I pledged for a GCW Zero and an iControlPad 2

>>959427
oh god that d pad is horrorfying...

I own an ipega myself.

>>959491

>>959595
It's fine, I'll just cry myself to sleep.

>>959595
brb, restoring system32

>>959427
I had one. Its great, and the D-Pad isn't nearly as bad as it looks.

>>958757

The D-pad is fine, Nintendo D-pads are fucking overrated anyway

>>925894

If by "just fine" you mean "with shitty speedhacks that break graphics and yet still requires frameskip", then yes, you are correct.

>>961427
>fucking overrated
into the trash

>>930479
Fuck that, use Wiiji and all you need is your wiimote, classic controller, and bluetooth. It supports keyboard mapping and Virtual HID input.

>>962145
Matter of preference.

Mayflash doesn't need batteries, bluetooth or require you to re-pair the wii remote with your wii.

also has a long as shit cable and takes 2 classic controllers so you can use it to play emulated games on the couch with a bro.

always good to have options.

>>959491
after the iControlpad1 relying so heavily on the community because the original team decided to pool their resources into begging for money for a second startup I decided they weren't going to fuck me out of another $90 unsupported piece of hardware.

>>962207
Wiiji doesn't require re-pairing the wiimote. Supports up to four players simultaneously. Supports all variations of Wii Controllers. I have rechargeable batteries. Completely wireless except for the wiimote/classic controller combo.

>>928898
The OpenGL driver on anything other than Gingerbread is completely fucked and significantly reduces performance.

Just running CM7 on mine.

>>961646
Sega Saturn's D-Pad > any Nintendo D-Pad

If you disagree, you haven't touched a Saturn controller

>>958567
or go with MyBoy if you want gyroscope support (and your device has a gyroscope) for Wario Ware Twisted

>>962241
Is Wiiji only for OSX? What good is that? Is there something similar for windows?

>>959491
Why would you do both? It seems to me, like they would occupy the same role.

>>962793
I like it fine and own several Saturns. I'm even a SF/Capcom FTG player. But Nintendo's d-pads are untouchable besides by microswitch d-pads as found in NGCD controllers and the NGPC. Saturn's is my third-favorite.

>>962807
GlovePIE

>>955896
4 hours.

>>943171
How fast does PPSSPP run on one of these doodahs ?

>>930479
No!
Get the wiiu one + wiiu controller, or at least the Xinput enabled wii one.
I didn't. Big mistake. Dinput sucks.

Bumping thread, How fast does PPSSPP run on one of the Android Vita lookalikes ?
Will PS2 Emulation ever be possible on the go ?

>>953838
>should i get this? looking for a cheap handheld to PS1 emulation
Just get a PSP.

>>970869
My only problem with this is that my psp can't do SNES in an acceptable fashion. It's great for NES, GB/C, GBA, MAME, PS1. But for SNES it sucks.
Is SNES on android good enough? Can anyone try out kirby's dreamland 3 on it and see how it handles? I have yet to see that game be emulated on a handheld well enough to play.

>>962873
but the Shield's d-pad has microswitches you hypocrite

>>971557
It ran just fine with retro arch on my xperia play.

Thank you /vr/ for this wondeful thread of non-shitposting. I recently purchased an EZflashIV and can't wait to play dragon warrior 4 on my GBAmicro. I love each and every one of you, this board makes me so happy. And hard.

>>971604
Yeah, which is being widely panned as buggy.

>>971781

Speaking of which anyone has a reliable list of games I can't play? So far I have confirmed all the classic nes series, earthworm jim 2, riviera (you can play it but it can cause some problems).

Still I love that shit, playing all my favourite gba games on my micro makes me wet.

Just got my JXD S5110 this week. Well, it emulates retro consoles prefectly (including SNES and GBA).

Seriourly, there's a really fucked up thing with it that made me regret buying it: it seems it can't recognize well when you press a combination of buttons. Let me explain: in games like Mega Man X, when I use the dash to jump forward while charging the shot, Mega Man goes backwards without I pressing back.
In GBA games like Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission, when I shot a missile (R+shot) while jumping, it opens the menu screen (Start). I redefined Start to be on triangle button, but for some reason, if I press both A+B it RESETS the fucking emulator.
I was able to get to Mother Brain on Metroid ZM, but it was a pain in the ass to play whithout being able to shot a missile while jumping (If I shot the missile in the air while I just jump it's ok, but if I press foward it opens the menu screen).
That issue with the buttons makes some games unplayable. It really sucks when you don't have freedom to press whatever button combination you fucking want to.

It's official, Nvidia Shield is the best Android handheld device yet

http://forum.themaister.net/viewtopic.php?id=717

Is there any reliable way to use game saves from pc emulators on android and vice versa?

Every combination of save state format and file conversion I have tried never seems to work

>>973232

RetroArch should use the same saves across all platforms, which includes PC and Android

>>973152
Wow, thanks for this. Button chording is a very common action, and any device or controller that can't handle it is deeply flawed IMO.

>>973203
>best Android handheld device
That doesn't mean too much, yet. And this is just for emu on the performance side; the controller portion is receiving some criticism.

>>973597
This.
The hardware may be good, and sure it has some power behind it. But if you cant comfortably use it whats the point? The controls are the most important part no one would play the holy grail of emulation if the controller was made of barbed wire.
No one wants to pay that much for a device that after 5 minutes cramps up your hands or is physically painful.

Look at the xperia play for example. It has been mentioned a few times in this thread already. It is clearly not the most powerful device, but it is comfortable as all hell. The d pad is great, and it can do ps1 and older emulation like its nothing.

All these generic android devices that look like vita clones are better choices than the shield because of the form factor, and the fact that they are comfortable enough to use.

>>973236
I found that as the only answer so far. I have some saves from znes, and vba that I dont particularly want to start over on. Is there a way to use these with retro arch?

>>973152
Have you tried using a different emulator? I've never had that problem when playing stuff on my S7300, and it never does anything like that. I've played plenty of fighting games on it.

>>973134
>>So far I have confirmed...
As in, they work without an issue? minus riviera.

Also I have not gotten mine in the mail yet. Is there a certain emu software to use on the SD that /vr/ recommends? I have done little research other than knowing I need to own this.

right now im seriously considering the nvidia shield. it would be perfect for retroarch.

>>974092
It happens with any emulator or firmware you use. It's a hardware issue, not software.

>>923163
this.

>>937136
Get the miui file explorer (the holo blue one with ftp support). I have all my 100s of roms on an ftp server ready to be played from anywhere wifi or 3g enabled.

>>973636
Performance > "better" controls

>>973636
Xperia is an overrated piece of shit that Sony doesn't even support and is stuck with shitty outdated 2.3 with 4.0 actually running worse.

>>973636
Have you ever even used a Sheild?

I used one at PAX. It feels fine. Its like any other controller.

>>973636

Hi there twat,

Squarepusher here to bust some sense in your ass.

You can fault the Shield on looks, you can fault it on bulk, but one thing you can't fucking fault it on is ergonomics.

It feels like a 'real' console gamepad unlike some twat 'non-tactile' piece of shit Bluetooth iPega-style gamepad thingie - which is what the Xperia Play gamepad is.

>>974914
>>974912
>>974902
>>974894

Wow. Way to sperg out. Op asked for portable emulation. The shield is huge compared to the generic android emulators. In my book portable is small enough to fit in the pocket. You have to carry a man purse for shield.

The xperia play (being used as an example, not necessarily a suggestion) is now selling for less than $100 if you shop around. It has enough power to emulate ps1 games flawlessly, and has no issue with snes (unlike the psp). This is a retro game board. Do you really need something more powerful than this if if does ps1 and older? Its a 2 year old phone. How many phones after 2 years are still supported by the manufacturer? Plus its comfortable as fuck. Gaming feels like texting

The shield may be more comfortable to hold than appearances make it look, but that d pad design still sucks. Ever sense the 360 came out its like every company forgot what a good dpad is. For retro games the dpad is to best way to play, unless you have an arcade stick.

>>975456
Which is why the JXD is better than an Xperia Play

>>975584
That was covered with the
>generic android emulator
Still a little large to be considered pocket size, but yes the jxd is more modern than the play.

>>975604
>Still a little large to be considered pocket size
They make some that are PSP/Vita form factor. They aren't all Wii U form factor.

>>923293
Does the jxd have any video out methods?

>>975617
HDMI

>>925920
>Needing 2 sticks to play retro vidya

>>923158
>Best portable emulation device?
>Mainly looking for something that can play NES/SNES/SMS/Genesis/GBA roms

My 3DS does this all. Great SNES emulation too.

>>977158
ps1 is /vr/-eligible, anon

>>977158

>>975456
>Plus its comfortable as fuck. Gaming feels like texting
I've had an xperia play for a while now and I find it uncomfortable to game on for more than half an hour.

>>977234

so.. what does the second analog stick do?

>>977246
How are you holding it? If I hold it like this, the battery dies before my hands can cramp up. If I dont need the L or R buttons then I move my middle fingers down. I find it more comfortable than my psp or orignal big ass silver ds.

>>977258

It's for an optional control scheme in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark that made you hold two controllers like a dumbass to simulate having two analog sticks.

>>977234

Playing Goldeneye using the two-stick setup is infinitely more uncomfortable than just learning to use the default setup. N64 sticks have too much travel, you can never tell precisely where you're pointing.

>>977281
>made you hold two controllers like a dumbass to simulate having two analog sticks.
You're not simulating shit, that scheme actually gives you two analog sticks. And if it's optional it's not making you do anything, you're choosing it. And if it is comfy and useful, who gives a shit if Anon McAnonyanon thinks you look like a dumbass?

Sorry, I just picked up on too much distaste in your one post over something so trivial, I thought I'd address it. Not really mad.

>N64 sticks have too much travel
They're analog sticks, I don't detect much more travel than other analog sticks.

>you can never tell precisely where you're pointing.
Nintendo uses octagonal restrictors. It's actually easier to tell where you're pointing than on other analog sticks.

>>977226
Most games don't even use the second stick, though. The PS1 controller didn't even have analog sticks until later.

>>977281
>>977246
Also Star Wars Ep1 Podracer had a cheat that let you use two controllers. One analog stick for each engine. A bit like the movie but it felt more like the arcade game too.

>>959427
Which one is the best? I'm sick of button screens getting in the way of my text boxes.

>>973232
Battery saves are the same across all emulators, so if you actually save in game rather than using save states it works universally

>That aspect ratio

>>979127
Enjoy not playing Ape Escape!

>>979390
I tried that but when my battery save went from vba to retroarch on my phone just fine, retro arch would not make a battery save properly. Two hours of progress in ff6 did not save unless I made a battery save.