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928704 No.928704 [Reply] [Original]

So what do you all think of Mother? I remember hearing about the rom in the late 90's and being mildly interested in it but never giving it a chance since I still have yet to even play Earthbound on SNES.

I just now started playing it in and am amused by the weird enemies like a lamp and a hippy that goes into a rage.

But I am noticing a huge need for grinding am worried this might cause a ragequit from me in the future. Is it that bad throughout the game? Some of these enemies seem to get amazingly cheap shots and have come close to K.Oing me in one hit.

I am just curious on what /vr/ thinks of this game in general.

>> No.928735

>>928704
the grinding and the chance encounters cause rage quitting and are described as fucking ridiculous or so i heard.

>> No.928740

Incredibly great atmosphere for an 8-bit rpg, loads of grinding, some redundant parts, and the beginning of a legend. Not bad.

>> No.928748
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>>928704
I don't know you faggots can play NES RPGs. They are just all so awful.

>> No.928756

all of the mother games have a luck based battle system.

when you first encounter new enemies, the only way to know you're going to when is landing a critical hit. this is why i can't play these games.

>> No.928757

I'm currently playing through it and I'm enjoying it.

I'm fucking amazed at the scope of this game being on the NES and all.

Honestly though, you should play earthbound first, THEN if you like it either play the third or this one. I am a very patient guy so I can handle the grinding.

To me it's a very charming game and intriguing game way ahead of its time.

>> No.928763

>>928704

There's a remake in the works using a hacked EB rom. Play the GBA version with the translation patch. It has an Easy ring feature that makes random encounters less annoying.

>> No.928779
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928779

Play the GBA version of it (in Mother 1+2), it's MUUUUUUCH better since the encounters have been lowered, the grinding reduced and many enemies' cheapshots have have been removed or altered.

Here's the tranny.

http://mother12.earthboundcentral.com/

You're very welcome

>> No.928785

>>928779
>http://mother12.earthboundcentral.com/
Thank you so much, anon. The easy ring will make things more bearable.

>> No.928796

>>928779
>PK Fire Ω Destroy all enemies in one hit (RECOMMENDED!)

>PK Freeze γ Lowers a single enemy's HP to almost nothing (RECOMMENDED!)

Yeah, thanks smartass, but using one of those psi attacks only once would burn through most of your MP.

>> No.928865

I'd comment on the story and the game itself except I can't, the shit was unbearably slow in doing in anything at all. It takes a half an hour to open a single menu. Grinding sucks, but grinding sucks worse when games won't even let you get around to it properly.

>> No.928871

>>928785
Damn! This easy ring makes it almost tooooo easy. Might have to remove it as soon as I can.

>> No.929069
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929069

I played fan-translation version on GBA without using easy ring and had no problems with it.
It has minimalistic but strong story, cute characters and NPCs, great soundtrack. Battle system is generic, I think, but overall gameplay is good with many little things which make flow of the game engaging(I liked searching runways for teleportation, management of limited inventory, etc). Also there was no grinding for me, well, except first 20-30 minutes to reach 5-6 level to overcome first tier of enemies and start playing, though I can be pretty dense and maybe walked around too much before acquiring teleport (for example, I returned several times to that different color gravestone near canary with intention to explode it, lol).
I'd say this is one of the best games on the system and there is absolutely no reason to skip it, don't listen those "outdated clunky grindy 80s" naysayers.

>> No.929076

>>928740
This so much this

>> No.929113

>>928763
>>928779
More people need to be aware of this. It's a far superior translation and easily the best version of the game.

>>928871
All it does is give double experience to cut down on grinding.

>> No.929281

>>928871
Once you get to Mt. Itoh (Holy Mountain or whatever it is called in the EBzero translation), it ceases to be easy in any stretch of the imagination.

>> No.929320

I tried getting into it several times, but I always lose attention span. Its probably my fault though. I am a big Mother fan so I know that sometime in the future I will dedicate serious time to it though.

>> No.929358

Mother is a good game. There's a couple hours of grinding for the graveyard, and about an hour of grinding for the new characters. In general, though, it's pretty smooth. The biggest problem with Mother is some of the dungeon design. Duncan's Factory is the biggest pile of horseshit ever. Mother isn't nearly as good as Mother 2, but I'd still say it's worth playing.

>> No.929403

I think that the game is absolutely fantastic. One of the best RPGs on the NES. It's got a massive world, and probably the single best OST on the NES.

It really frustrates me how the majority of Mother "fans" haven't even played through the first one and actively advocate skipping it.

>> No.929404

>>929281

Mt. Itoi is easy if you spam status ailments.

>> No.929447

Department store song is horribly catchy.

http://youtu.be/FCmrxEQrO-o

Listen to that for 5 minutes while you mess around with vendors and ATMs and it'll be stuck in your head for a week.

>> No.929464

>>929447
My favorites are Twinkle Elementary and Youngtown, which became the naming screen and Paula's Theme in Mother 2, respectfully.

>> No.929482

>>928704
Never played 1 or 3 because I played Earthbound and it was thoroughly mediocre. It's not really any weirder or sillier than most Japanese games, also the story is stuck up its own ass with 2DEEP4U shit. The ending is fucking horrible too.

>> No.929486

>>929482

>2deep4u

I don't know if you're just retarded or if you're baiting me. What in the actual fuck is "2deep4u" in the game? Other than nothing.

>> No.929515

>>929486
>Make an almost completely worthless post
>Try to insinuate others are shitposting
Stop. Take it to reddit.

But to answer the question you asked, the entire story is just vague nonsense. Lolol the monster is a metaphor for rape guys. Also your character is a psychic wizard for some reason and he must conquer the evil within his heart to defeat the bad guys with the power of friendship by doing all this inane shit. I get that the story is supposed to be silly but the thing is, it stops being silly halfway through and that's when it starts to get stuck up its own ass.

>> No.929519

>>929482
>EarthBound
>2deep4u

You've never played it.

>> No.929550

>>929515

>make outlandish claims about something
>somebody asks you to explain your reasoning
>immediately call reddit

The monster isn't a metaphor for rape, it was inspired by a movie that scared Itoi as a kid. The thing is silly the whole way through until like, the final dungeon where you have to fight the "evil cosmic destroyer" that got mentioned at the start of the game. Forget the game being stuck up its own ass, that's all you.

>> No.930163
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930163

Great RPG.
It's also better to play this before Mother 2 or 3, but people always do it backwards.

>> No.930176

>>929482
See, it kind of bothers me when people spout "2deep4u" about the Mother series, especially Earthbound. I always just saw it as a simple story of what it means to be a hero through a child's eyes. It's a game that tries to preserve the sense of childlike wonder and imagination that most people abandon when they "grow up".

If that's 3deep5me in your eyes, then you should really try playing a few of those stupidly pretentious indie games to see just how far the rabbit hole goes fuck you Jonathan Blow.

>> No.930224

>>930176
At least Braid is fun.

>> No.930281

>>930176

How is that conveyed through the game? When I played it it was just a boring RPG with no story. I don't see how it's supposed to be 'through a kid's eyes'.

Note, I played Earthbound when I was 9 and I thought it was shit then too

>> No.930295

>>930163

It's shit. There's no reason for anyone to play it, especially since Earthbound pretty much overwrites it.

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930314

>>930295

>it's shit

says anonymous, who cares.

>Earthbound pretty much overwrites it.

Mind to explain?

>> No.930326

>>930281
>goofy enemies, ranging from silly-looking animals/plants to aliens, toy cars, dinosaurs and other childish things
>one of the main antagonists is the neighborhood bully
>characters each personify common tropes in childhood friendships (the sporty kid, the girl with religious parents, the nerdy kid, and the weird foreign kid)
>story revolves around unkown "bad guys" coming down and threatening your planet, so you set out on an adventure to stop them in ways that only children would think plausible (using yoyos, firecrackers, etc)
>healing items are all things like band-aids, hamburgers, candy, and other things that kids would love
>the more "dark" elements are often simplified, dangerous religious cults become silly painters, drunks become sober when you defeat them, a mobster with a knife runs a gang of kids on skateboards who hang out in an arcade
>saving is done by regularly calling your Dad and letting him know you're OK
>you never really "kill" anyone, enemies simply "become tame"

I'm not telling you to like the game, I understand that it can get fairly tedious. I'm just saying that it's not pretentious or deep. It's a game about being a kid. It's fine if you think it's shit.

>> No.930340

Grinding wasn't THAT bad, encounter rate was fucked though. Still love it to death

>> No.930342

>>930326
That, and I noticed it kind of repeated the frustration of no one taking kids seriously.

>> No.930351

>>930342
Yeah, I kind of forgot about that. It's been a while since I last played it.

Another thing that always made me laugh was the Camera Man. It reminded me of how my mom used to always take pictures of everything.

>> No.930364

>>930351
I liked the Camera man at first, but he started to get on my nerves because I would explore everything when I got to a new area before starting to try to make progress, and it would just be like 5 pictures within 15 minutes.

>> No.930378

Speaking of mother. Was it just me or did they increase Ness walking speed a bit on the wii-u VC version?

>> No.930468

>>930314
Everything in Mother is mostly ignored by Earthbound. Earthbound is more of a reboot than a sequel.

>> No.930491

>>928704
I liked it. It was lots of fun. I even had fun grinding, and I don't usually have fun grinding. The music, at times, was breathtaking. That particular detail was what took me off the fence of indifference.

>> No.930689

I played the GBA one with the Easy Ring, and I'm thinking I might go back and play either the NES one, or the GBA one again without the Easy Ring.

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I am playing the game myself. People act like this game need a Dragon Warrior amount of grinding even with the ring. It doesn't. The Easy Ring helps but I honestly think I got over leveled as Ness learn almost all of his skills by the 2nd town.

If you play the game without a guide then you can easily survive in areas that you should be at due to the exp obtained by randomly exploring and learning the area.

Like you must be playing at a speed runner pace and running from every battle to get to the point where you actually need to use some of your skills or grind at all. I been using auto, rarely healing and the game is basically a visual novel to me at this point. I am actually hoping the game will get harder.

>> No.930912

>>930468

>Earthbound is more of a reboot than a sequel.

Except that's wrong, the game in Japan is called "Gyiyg Strikes Back!"
Gyiyg's relationship with the main character in M1 (Ninten) differs greatly from his relation with Ness, I don't see how anyone could think it's a reboot and not a sequel unless they never played Mother 1. The games are vastly different, apart from being similar in concepts and some characters filling the same roles (not all of them, for one Poo and Teddy have nothing in common).
People who think like you is the reason why Mother 1 is underrated, they treat it as a "proto Earthbound", when in reality it's a good 8bit RPG, and Mother 2 is its 16 bit sequel...

I also wonder if you think Mother 3 is a reimagination of Mother 2, since it has little correlation to Earthbound bar a few characters making a come back. (same situation as M1 and M2)

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930963

QUICK

should I play Mother 3 or Mother? I'm starting right away

>> No.930971
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930971

played through it last summer. I wouldn't recommend playing mother 1 after earthbound. felt like an earthbound remake because i played it second like a retard.

>> No.931003

>>930912
> I don't see how anyone could think it's a reboot and not a sequel

Probably because the story connects very, very, very, very loosely. Literally the only thing bridging them and putting them in the same timeline is that Gyiyg comes back. Nothing else. No other mention of Mother 1's events or characters occurs. Gyiyg, the only returning character, doesn't even mention anything that happened in M1.

Mother 1 and 2 share character designs (like for enemy types, NPCs, and even the main characters) like how the Final Fantasy does with Moogles and Chocobos and shit, but Gyiyg is the only unique character who actually appears in both games.

>> No.931001

>>930912
Nothing about Mother is essential to the narrative, though. You can play Earthbound without playing Mother and still get the gist of Mother's relevance to the story

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>>931003
>>931001

True, but it's still wrong to assume Mother 2 is just a "reboot" of Mother 1, that's what I wanted to address. It's a sequel - you can play Mother 2 or 3 s stand alone games, but it all becomes better if you play Mother 2 knowing who Gyiyg is (other than "THE EVIL EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSEEEE") or knowing who Porky is in Mother 3.

>> No.931070
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>>930963

Mother, then Earthbound, then Mother 3.

>> No.931069
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931069

A great game. I played it in the Summer of 2005, after finishing Earthbound, I heard about about the NES game, which I thought was a port. When I read up more on it, I was blown away. I like Earthbound, but Mother 1 left a more...somber impact on me. It was sad, really. Teddy's parents being murdered, Ana's mother leaving her, the whole backstory with Mary, George and Giegue. Earthbound was like a good G-rated Disney movie whereas Mother was like a very special episode. It's a great title that gets overshadowed by the other two games.

>> No.931078

>>931069

I especially love the George-Maria story, it's a really good love story when you really think about the whole situation. But as with most games from that era, there's little explained, and a lot to imagine.

>> No.931101

It amazes me that the story was written by a Japanese person. It's so strangely American.

>> No.931109

>>931065

I accept that M1 exists in the same universe as M2 and M3, but I truly wish Itoi would explain just how exactly Mother 1 and 2 connects outside of a Gyiyg simply reappearing. It baffles me that it's such a loose sequel when 3 was connected so definitively to 2. And notice that 3 didn't have any of those concrete references to 1's characters and settings like it did with mentioning the events of 2.

There's just so many questions raised when you realize that M1 and M2 are connected. Where was Ninten and his gang? How come Gyiyg didn't go after him? Where the important towns and cities from 1? All that stuff combined with "Why is everything so similar?" makes people think it's a reboot.

>> No.931124

>>931109

M2 and M3 aren't connected, in fact it could be an alternate reality, where Porky just appeared due to his insane time-space traveling.
All 3 games are connected (mainly by the antagonists), but none of them are direct sequels.

>> No.931125

>>931109
Some proposed that Mother 2 is actually Mother 1 with its timeline altered due to Giygas attacking from the past. Hence things being so similar.

>> No.931142

>>931124
>M2 and M3 aren't connected

Did you play through M3 all the way? It's chocked full of explicit M2 stuff.

Pokey's heavy nostalgia for his youth (i.e., the event of M2) even drives him to maintain a Mother 2 museum that's continuity porn at its finest, and a movie theater showing videos of Ness and his buddies. Dr. Andonuts reappears and there's items heavily implied to have belonged to Ness that you can obtain. Pokey even mentions he's done a shitload of time-traveling, but no universe hopping. M3 is supposed to take place far off in to the future after the end of the world, so that's why it's so different.

>> No.931143

I beat the game. It only really gets hard by around Mt. Itoi, but you can game your way through that with psi magnet.
I didn't think there was any "grinding" per se, but the [excessive] number of random encounters ensures that you're well over-leveled throughout the game.

>> No.931149

The thing EarthBound had with being able to see enemies on the overworld and choose whether or not to engage them? Wonderful. Fucking love it. Random encounters should have died right then, and been replaced with that system.

>> No.931269

>>928748

emulators let you blast through the tedious parts at super speed

otherwise I could never do it anymore

kids though, they can have enormous patience for the most tedious crap

it's kinda like how a cat can sit on the same spot on the same piece of furniture for hours every day, staring at what seems to be nothing in particular--the frickin thing doesn't even know a language, so what can it be thinking about to keep it interested and not suicidally bored, and yet it does this its whole life and generally seems happy enough

>> No.931273

>>931269

I try not to speed through RPGs, but I almost always end up hitting the turbo button about 1/4th way through the game and becoming dependent on it.

I'm 25 and thought I'd become MORE patient as I aged, not less.

>> No.931312

>>931149
I liked this about super Mario rpg too

>> No.931314

>>931142
I've never played any of the Mother games, but god damn did you make me want to play 2 and 3

>> No.931316

>>930971
So then would you discourage playing mother 1 before it anyway?

>> No.931605

>>931142

The same could be said about Gyiyg and M1 and M2 then.
It's not "chocked full" of Mother 1 references, but it really becomes a deeper character than just "the embodiment of evil" as they call him on M2 (Porky does, anyway), in Mother 1 he's just an alien who was raised by a surrogate mother who happened to be human. When you have into account all the events and backstory from Mother 1, his decay in M2 becomes a lot more tragic.
Really, all Mother 3 has apart from Porky being Porky, is all the fanservice stuff (the theatre cinema, corridor of nostalgia), but hey, there's even some Mother 1 fanservice, right before you meet the real Porky, the title theme of Mother starts playing, right?
But plot-wise, Porky and Gyiyg share a lot in common, just Mother 2 didn't have any throwback moment or heavy references, but none of the references to M2 in M3 are all that important, they're there for the fans, but people who play Mother 3 without having played 2 can enjoy it too (just not as deeply as those who played M2, and the same can be said about M1).

So my point:
Porky is as important as Gyiyg, they're both antagonists, and they both have a backstory that you will miss if you don't play the prequel.

>> No.931627

I wanted to get into the mother series so I started with this.
I got bored really fast. Should I skip this and just go to earthbound? I will probably appreciate Mother more when I beat the 2 other games.

>> No.931686

>>931627
Believe it or not, Mother have a gameplay faster than Earthbound.

>> No.932390

I've been playing this game lately, I just defeated the Starman Jr guy at the Zoo, what do I do now?

>> No.932423

>>931686

not true at all

mother is riddled with random encounters, you can avoid encounters in earthbound.

>> No.932427

>>932390

go back to down and talk to the mayor, heal up and get supplies, then go northeast of the zoo and cross the bridge there.

>> No.932434

>>932427
Thanks.

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>>931316
It took me awhile to think about my answer, but i say mother 1 is worth playing as long as you play it before earthbound. Mother 1 still has good music, and when you play earthbound later you'll have quite a few nostalgia moments. Plus theres a mother 1 moment in mother 3.

I originally ran it on a nes emulator.

>> No.932516

>>931605
Long story short, the only things you'll miss out on if you don't play the games in sequence are some (really, only about ten or so) nostalgia moments, and a bit of extra backstory for the antagonists.

And it doesn't really ruin your experience in any way if you find out the backstory later.

>> No.932567

>>928704
>huge need for grinding
You're playing Retro Games.
Back in the day grinding was part of the game and we LIKED IT.
A lot of Mother fans always talk about Mother 1 using that apologetic tone, saying "it's okay but yeah there's a lot of grinding". And I just can't understand that attitude at all. That's the game's system. It's mostly a DQ clone as long as battles are concerned... but hey, DQ is popular for a reason.
The game still conveys its quirkiness. You still get the puns and jokes and crazy moments.
So what if you have to stick around in an area fighting a few battles? You're building up towards the next challenge. You're getting stronger. You're accumulating money for your asthma medicine!

But noooo. It's just ANNOYING and UNBEARABLE, so they have to patch the game to make it easier so newer players will try it out.

TL;DR: don't be a pussy, play the games in order.

>> No.932891

As a huge fan of Mother 2 & 3, I plan on starting the first over again. I had played it years ago & enjoyed it but my harddrive got fucked over & I lost my progress. I'm just gonna start it all over again.

Food for thought; I read that when Ness & co encounter the devil machine, it's not actually a reflection of Ness' face you see, but Ninten's.

>> No.932972

>>929404
The only problem with Mt. Itoi is that one starman group that sometimes uses Psi Beam Gamma. The instant-kill move. And you can only get two franklin badges.

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>>932516

Yeah, but I'd say it's better if you already know the antagonist from the previous game, it does alter your experience, and it's not the same watching a YT video or reading about it... at least, not for me.

>>932972
Having 2 Franklin badges is enough, one for Ninten, one for Paula, if Lloyd/Teddy die, use PK healing omega and revive him. That, along with the magicant hook/Memory chip form EVE make it easy to heal if you're low on HP or PP (go to magicant using the magic hook, heal, go back to mt. itoi using the memory chip).
That said, the enemies on mt. itoi are still brutal, but not impossible.

>> No.933472

>>933435
It's so rare to see Mother fan art where the artist actually gives Ana her hat. I love it. I love that hat.

>> No.933520

>>932567
They could make it less grindy and more about strategy. Im not really into making games easier but grinding is retarded mechanic.

>> No.933568

>>928704
Heya, OP here. I just got the third melody after fumbling around a lot and having fun. I am level 12 after massive grinding am doing ok so far.

Cute game and will keep on going.

>> No.933569

>>933520

I never had to grind in Mother 1. Died a few times? sure, but never had to grind.
There's some strategy to be done, as this guy explained:
>>933435

If you don't use any strategy on Mt. Itoi... well then yes, you will get your ass handed to you, no matter how much you grind.

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>>933568

kudos OP!

>> No.933583

>>933576
Having the Franklinbadge against the jr. Starman was a godsend.

>> No.933606

>>933568
Glad you're having a good time. You should only need to grind now for a bit when you get new characters.

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>>933583

Yup, Franklin Badge must always be on your inventory.
To be honest, on my first playthrough of Mother I didn't even pay much attention to the items, I just played all offensive, in the end it would have been much easier if I paid more attention to items like the Magicant hook, that thing can save your ass many times. Also, the 4th D-Slip technique Ninten learns is great when you have to escape from a tough battle, it never fails (or at least, never failed to me).

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933674

My gift to you all.

>> No.933675

>>931125
I like to think Ness' Dad is Ninten.

>> No.933687

>>933675
Would make sense, Ness' dad is a hero!

Or at least the father of a hero.

HAHA!!!

*slam*

>> No.934028

>>933576
Flying Men are so depressing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jT50gxC-dU

>> No.934043

>>928704
It's probably my favorite out of the three.

Honestly the magicant section was well magical to me the first time I played. The music was amazing, and the whole story revolving around the queen made me pretty sad when she dissapeared (if i remember right)

>> No.934054

>>934043
I am the cat who swims on the ground.

>> No.934064

>>934054
>I am the cat who swims on the ground.
The entire section was just ludicrous. Also those 5 brothers that were like bird men that would fight for you until death. Some of that shit is pretty creepy when you think about it. Magicant was a little eerie too.

>> No.934075

>>934064
Also, the meaning behind the 8 melodies.

I won't say Mother 1 "explains" Mother 2. But if you want to find a connection, an explanation for Giygas' actions... it's right there.

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>>934028

Funny thing that song was supposed to be on Mother 1 and is featured on the vocal soundtrack, but it isn't on the actual game. However, they included it on the Flying men's house on Earthbound's magicant.

>> No.934868

>>934850
>you will never have a metaphysical embodiment of your courage lay down it's life for you in a world that is made out of magic and dreams

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>>934850
in the original Mother 2 Ness is actually naked in the metaphysical world. Makes sense too considering being naked is everyone's natural state. I forget if he still has his hat on though, which if that's the case, that's kind of funny.

>> No.934964
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>>934850
in the original Mother 2 Ness is actually not wearing pajamas but is complete naked. Makes sense that he would be in his natural state, but I can't recall if he still kept his hat on.

>> No.934980

>>934964

Yeah, on Mother 2 Ness is naked but with his cap on.
He's without his cap on EarthBound because they used his pajamas sprite from the beginning of the game.

>> No.935090

>>928704
>So what do you all think of Mother?

It's an inarguable classic, man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ3xkWuP3Ck

>> No.935102

>>928704
I made it to Magicant and ragequit. I couldn't take the grinding anymore.

That was 6 years ago.

It'd be nice if it were remade.

>> No.935106

>>935102

get the GBA version with the translation patch

you can easymode it

>> No.935154
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>>935106

About the GBA version... I noticed there are 2 different versions of 1+2, one of them has a white frame around it, while the other is all red, just like Mother 1 and 2 packages.
What's that some kind of player's choice edition? Is there any difference? Which one do you reccommend to buy as far as collectibles go?

Also, Mother series, great stuff.

>> No.935405

>>933435
Well, I played Earthbound first, then Mother 3, then Mother. I already knew Porky and it did change him as a villain. But on the contrary, finding out about Giygas being a bit more than just some unseen evil when playing Mother was pretty swell too.

I guess both have their charms.

I don't know what order I would advise to players that haven't touched any of the three though. Probably just 1, 2 3 so you won't feel like you're 'losing' game mechanics as you're going along.

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935578

OP here and just got here. Some dude acted like a telephone and saved my game, I got a large bag from someone and now I am off to find a magic fountain.

This place is fucked up.

>> No.935586

>>935102
want a gamegenie code to make it easier? get the drop item every time

>> No.935595
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935595

I gave it a shot. The story seems pretty good but the gameplay itself is just so "been there done that". I used to play turn based RPG games all the time, but at some point I just got fed up with watching numbers go up and down all day.

So I tried to play it and didn't get far. The game itself is just something only someone new to RPG games or a nostalgic admirer would still appreciate. I'm not saying it's a bad game at all, but to me it's just a dime-a-dozen RPG NES game.

I also want to make clear that I'm not disputing the fact you should or shouldn't like it, because I still love FFIX due to nostalgia and I can play it for that reason. If I played this back in the day when pretty much all I had was Mario Bros. and Ninja Gaiden, then yeah I would have eaten it up. Now though, it just can't hold my attention.

>> No.935605

>>935595
Nice image.

captcha: his nessnsv

>> No.935624
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935624

Goddamn I love the NES.

>> No.935909
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>>932891
Actually it is Ness face. Porky is the villian of Mother 2.

By the time Porky gets in direct contact with Giygas he discovers that Giygas has become a complete idiot and becomes the self-proclaimed second in command so that the minions of Giygas obey him. From them on, he's the one giving Ness a hard time.

The ramblings of Giygas during the final fight is just Giygas mindlessly repeating what Porky had been ranting and complaining about Ness the whole time Porky spent with him. His constant cries of "Ness..." his moans of pain, claiming it feels good, he's taken Porky's confused mind as his own. Pleasure is pain, enemies are friends...

If you're confused about this, Porky sees Ness as that cool kid who didn't want to be his friend (just like everyone else) but he really wanted to be his friend because Ness was all the he isn't so he was jealous. Porky did everything to prove that he was cool enough to be his friend, eventually believing that power made him cooler than everyone, specially Ness.

Oh, and Porky is this fucked up because his mother didn't love him.

>> No.935969

>this entire thread
And you guys claim the Mother series isn't 2deep4u bullshit

>> No.935984

>>935969
What is wrong with this thead?

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>>935969
It isn't, you gigantic twat.

>>935909
I could believe that it is indeed Ness' face.
I already knew about the info you provided, I just had to mention that from the article I read it does provide an interesting thought.
Link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giygas

Also, an short video of the "lore": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xom77YACKiw

Does anyone else prefer to the series as the Mother series? I rarely call it Earthbound. I actually played Earthbound while looking through Tomato's Legends of Localization in order to see what was censored, poorly translated, and done well in translation. It honestly made me enjoy the game a lot more. Then again, I despise censorship and don't endorse it.

>>935578
Just got to Magicant too. Protip: give your Great Grandfather's diary to the item holder in the town.

>> No.936093

>>935996
I think that part was made up by the wiki editor.

The whole thing is pretty abstract so it could be either of them. We're supposed to make our own interpretation about a lot of stuff in the game anyways.

>> No.936128

>>935996
What does giving them the diary do?

>> No.936153

>>936093
If you watched the lore video, I think that the explanation given there makes the most sense of all. But to each their own.

>>936128
It helps make more space available for items you may or may not need. It's not needed anymore.

>> No.936178

>>936153
Yeah, the lack of item storage in this game is awful.

>> No.936210

>>936153
What, that Giygas knows the face of Ness because of the apple of enlightenment?

I was just trying to say that it's more probable that it's the face of Ness since, by then, all Giygas could think of was Ness...

>> No.936319

>>936210
Yeah, I know that's what you were saying.
I said that it makes most sense of all. I feel that it really is Ness' face. I was just letting those fans who like to think up their own spin on the story read in on what this article said. Sorry if I'm confusing.

>> No.938171

In terms of overall game design I'd say it's the weakest of the series.
In terms of the enjoyment and fun I have playing it, it's the best.
The story is also the best as well.

>> No.938185

>>938171
It's one of the few stories where the Power Of Love isn't some magic beam but the actual feeling is used.

>> No.938638
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938638

I am going insane over how little I can carry and trying to learn how useful each item is.

>> No.938670

>>938638
Give up GGF's diary. Are you playing the EB Zero prototype? If so, you should have gone with the GBA version.

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>>938670
I did switch over to the GBA version.

I at last got a new pack mule...er party member!

Also blew up an entire classroom without the school batting an eye.

>> No.938718

Haven't read the thread, but there is also an "easy version" hack of EB0 floating around out there. I think it was made by the same guy who did the MOTHER 3 translation, but don't quote me on that.

Here's the patch:
http://starmen.net/mother1/easypatch/

>> No.939167

>>938690
You don't play it at that resolution, do you?

>> No.939174

>>938690
If I remember correctly, get ready for the worst part of the game shortly.

>> No.939179

>>939167
Nah, just me fucking around with screen shots.

>> No.939183

>>930340
That encounter rate really likes to fuck with you occasionally.

I really enjoy not being able to walk 3 steps before being attacked, 3 times in a row.

>> No.939674 [DELETED] 

I don't get the appeal of old NES RPGs or any for that matter. Play new ones you faggots.

>> No.939680

>>939674
I think you might be on the wrong board.

>> No.939715

>I am just curious on what /vr/ thinks of this game in general.

A much more entertaining game than Final Fantasy 7. It doesn't take itself too seriously. There's no lame super duper special weapons or magic items. The characters are modest yet classy.

>> No.939721

I love the whole Mother series. Every entry offers something new and original. It's just a amazing series, oh and yes it does get a lot more crazy.

>> No.939728

>>939674
Why?

>> No.940426

>>931605
>Mother 3 corridor of nostalgia
>Mother 1...the title theme starts playing

I won't lie, I almost cried at that part. It made me think of the first time I saw the Mother logo on that black screen so long ago and that haunting tune. It was a powerful moment.

>> No.941252

Off to do more grinding...

>> No.941430
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Just got here. This place is massive.

>> No.941461

>>941430

Fuck this dungeon forever.

>> No.941468

>>941430
Oh, yeah, I remembered getting stuck in there for a good while before I got to the rockets, but I went in there before I was supposed to and didn't have Lloyd. The time I went with Lloyd, I gave up and looked up a map.

>> No.941556

>>928779
On top of that it has a better translation, the NOA one is a little stilted and boring and not so Itoish

>> No.941962

>>940426
I'm glad someone else got the same feeling I did when they saw that title. When I first started playing Mother, I just stared at the title screen for the longest time. I never do that. I put it right up there with Chrono Trigger and Metal Gear Solid as best ever.

>> No.941965

>>941430
Worst part of the game. What a shitshow.

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This thread got me curious enough to did up both things in pic related to try out Mother.

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>>942104
>did
*dig

It only took an installation of Windows XP in a VM on two different machines to get the damn card to work, but it was worth it.

This game is pretty fun.

>> No.942119

I played it entirely and it was quite terrible.
Like a worse Earthbound basically.
I didn't really like Earthbound much either.

>> No.942972

bump

>> No.943026

>>941962

Not related to Mother, but Contra's title screen still gives me goose bumps. That logo with the black background + that intro music.

>> No.943401

>>942109
I like your fruit stickers.

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Aww yeah riding the train.

>> No.943504

I really like it but felt like I needed to do save state just before leveling. Since when you level up the stat bonus you get are so fucking random that you can have a completely gimp character and in another where everything dies if you bat an eye.

>> No.944937

>>943504
bamp

>> No.944982

I have played every Mother game and I have to say that Mother was my least favorite. It's is by no means bad but just by comparison to Earthbound and Mother 3. Really if you become a big enough fan of Earthbound and Mother 3 its a great game to come back to.

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>>944982
I'm playing through it right now, and I'm enjoying it for what it is. I'm making no final judgement until I finish the entire game, but I do have to say that I am playing through this after finishing 2 & 3 recently, and I do enjoy what it has to offer. I love it for what it is.

>> No.945086

I just happened to pick up a reproduction cart of it entitled "Earthbound 0" yesterday. Do you guys recommend playing the new GBA translation instead? I really like using an actual nes...

>> No.945117

>>945086

I really like the easy ring.

It makes it much more fun for me. I have enough /vr/ RPGs right now that need a fucktom of grinding.

It's up to you. You have a cart; pop it in.

>> No.945137

>>945086
I feel that playing with the GBA's translation is great. There is the inclusion of a run button, as well as an option to make the game a little "easier". I prefer to play with the "easy ring" on so that the game doesn't feel as if it's going in a snail's pace. It's not required, but it's a nice little option.

>> No.946224

OP here. My game file corrupted and I spent all weekend getting back to the factory to blow up the fucking rock again.

Glad this thread is still alive.

>> No.946313
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>can fight wild wolves, bears and spacemen and only take one point of damage each hit
>talk to anyone with the sniffles
>instant cold!

I love this game.

>> No.946317

Can't we just agree to call it, Mother 1, Mother 2 and Mother 3?

Calling it Mother, Earthbound, and Mother 3 is silly.

>> No.946330

>>946317

You can call it Mother 2 if you want.

We'll know what you're talking about.

I call Final Fantasy III on the SNES VI.

>> No.946367

>>946313
for the most part, blue people have colds

>> No.946393

Asthma was the most unique status effect ever.

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>>946313
You're doing something wrong, with 32 level you should instakill any of enemies you mentioned, did you equip weapon?

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946498

Never mind this >>946478 reply, apparently I can't read.

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946840

>>946224
Damn OP. I am truly sorry for your lots.

But in all seroiusness, how did that happen?
I'm at the same part of the game when Ninten & Lloyd head to the Duncan Factory.

>> No.946970

>>946840
I think when my battery died on my laptop it corrupted something when I had the emulator still open.

Who knows.

>> No.946993

>>928763
This, this, THIS. Goddamn superior graphics, more scenic stuff, better maps, and fucken rollin' HP meter! So psyched for this!

>> No.947004

>>946993
Link to the project?

>> No.947063

>>947004
http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Community/PKHack/Mother-Remake

Browse the whole thread, it's full of screens and such. Seems like they're making good progress

>> No.947069

>>947063
Thanks anon.

>> No.947102

Something I never see mentioned about the Mother series are the enemies. It feels like they have a small bit of a personality. The moves they do that aren't just 'attack' or 'casting a spell'. The multiple battle themes seems to amplify this.

>> No.947551

>>947102
I agree. The enemies are all really unique, and do seem to display some sort of personality to them in short bursts. The music changes are nice too.

Who's your favorite enemy in the series? I really liked the mad duck, and negative man. Exploding Territorial Oaks are fine too.

>> No.947556

>>947551
That goddamn hippie is one I will never forget from my first playthrough 10 years ago.

>> No.947859

>>947556
The hippie is classic.
Mother 3's pigmasks were interesting for the most part, though they were often easy to battle.

>> No.947871

>>947859

everything in that game was easy to battle, except the guardian trio if you didn't happen to figure them out very fast

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>>947551

>> No.947951

>>929403

It's the grind that does it really.

The characters, story, music and ideas are as good and sometimes better than the rest of the series. Holy fuck is the music good.

Like, god damn

>> No.947967

>>931003

You guys must be jesting; Earthbound references Mother 1 very frequently, though admittedly not in ways that are crucial to the plot.

>> No.947969

>>947951

GBA version with the easy ring.

Goddamn, it's like playing Chrono Trigger.

>> No.948041

I finished it after 2 and 3. The story and atmosphere were sweet, but the gameplay itself wasn't very fun at all. It also had that often vague and confusing story progression that seems to be common for JRPGs of that time.

>>928748
Same here, and SMS RPGs as well.

>> No.948062

>>940426

Its so good. Hell, I played it after Earthbound and it still just oozes nostalgia.

>> No.948098

There is a GBA version which is superior in every conceiveable way. Play that one instead.

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I'm playing the GBA version right now. Got Ana and she's level 13. I've tested around inside the haunted mansion and eventually got owned by the Armor enemies lol.

I never used the Easy Ring. I say once you get to Magicant and then getting Loid in your party the game really starts rolling.

>> No.948653

>>947871
Funny, I was actually going to say the exact same thing when I mentioned how the pigmasks were all rather easy. The trio guardians were the only enemies/boss battle I had to attempt more than once. I mean, I had beat them at almost every attempt, even my first, but with only Lucas remaining. So I kept going at it to see if I could manage to beat them with the entire party still standing & did so. Felt good.

>> No.948695

>>946224

Google for a save game editor or some .sav/.jst files. Same thing happened to my Mother 3 file in chapter 5, I was about ready to kill myself until it turned out some weeb had uploaded the beginning and midway points of every chapter on his fansite.

>> No.948720

>>947859

>denying that time you were raped by pigmask majors

it's okay anon, that's how i deal with the trauma too

>> No.948728

>>948720
But I wouldn't lie about what I did or didn't struggle on. I only had lost to the trio guardians, anon. How did you struggle on that? Maybe you were under leveled?

>> No.949018

>>948653
Have you tried hard mode? It makes some boss fights more drawn out, so you have to survive longer.

>> No.949309

>>941430
I can't believe I found the rocket in here without a guide. It's a very large and confusing dungeon. A tip if no one knows yet but I believe equipping with the water pendant and/or earth pendant is the best for this dungeon as they lower the attacks of fire and thunder attacks.

>> No.949328

>>935909
I think Porky is more fucked up beyond that. Picky wasn't as fucked up and they had the same parents. But it is interesting how in M3 Porky made all those robots out of his mom but didn't make robots of his brother or dad (his dad I understand because he most likely didn't like him).

>> No.949468

>>930163
Really? That's the first one I ever heard that. Personally I started with the first one and then played the second one. I played them both last year and few weeks ago I started playing the third one.

I can't understand: even thought Earthbound is so much praised few people actually talk about the first Mother.

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>>949018
There's a hard mode?
I haven't tried it yet because I'm playing through the original Mother now. I'm enjoying what I'm playing. Loving it.

I'll have to try out hard mode sometime.

>> No.949505

>>929515

Keep your retarded shit on /v/ please.

>> No.949513
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949513

>Renamed beer as cappucino
>Got drunk by coffee
>Not even bothered to changed the sprite for the beer
That and the fact that they renamed bar as cafe (even thought it was obviously looking as bar) is the only localication change that I found really stupid in Earthbound.

>> No.949540

>>949513

Maybe it's supposed to be so clear that only very young players doesn't get the implications.

>> No.949551

>>949513
Looks like an injun too.

Guess japan is still butthurt.

>> No.949575

>>949513
Nintendo had their dumb policies. Didn't give them a lot of options. It's a tremendous translation job they did.

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>>949513
I played through Mother 2 through Earthbound, but knowing that the game was censored in the US, I had looked up Tomato's (dude responsible for the Mother 3 English translation) Legends of Localization, and displays what the original game had intended to be in the dialogue, and script. It also displayed great jobs in localizing done in the game, but also terrible translations, and some even not even included. All in all, knowing what the original game had in its text translated for me to read while I played the game helped me enjoy it a lot more for what it was. Wish that taking the Japanese version of the game and simply putting the text into English was an easy task, but it's not.

>> No.950040

>>949483
At the start of the game, at the shrine that asks you for your name, enter:
HARD MODE

It doubles enemy health. Not sure, but it might also alter enemy battle scripts a bit too. Bosses like the pork tank are more serious when you have to live twice as long.

>> No.950247

>>949309
I did it twice with no map the other day. The first time I found the rockets, Loyd was dead. I thought it would have been easier the second time because I knew the general direction it was in, but I was wrong.

I can say, that because of that factory, I'm overleveled at this point.

I can say one thing, I wouldn't have made it very far if the emulator didn't have a turbo speed button.

>> No.950253
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950253

I love this game.

>> No.950257

>>950247
There's only one other area in the game comparably bad to that fucking factory. So don't worry too much about it.

>> No.950284

>>949815

Why would you want to play the game in english when it is obviously not even your native language?

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>>950284
I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
I speak English primarily. I don't really speak any other language. What are you getting at?

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950405

>>950040
Neat. Knowing this, whenever I decide to replay this masterpiece, I'll have to remember to do just that. It should provide a satisfying challenge.

I probably won't come around to it any time soon though. I have so much vidya backlogged. Doesn't help that I recently finished 2 & 3, and am now about 50% through the first game in the series. Once I finish this I hope to tackle the Pikmin series.

>> No.952637

Bump for mother.

>> No.952649

Thanks for this thread, Anons.

I've always wanted to play Mother 1. I played it back when it was first dropped as Earthbound Zero in the 90s but the difficulty was too annoying. Thanks to this thread and the GBA easy ring translation, I've been playing it for days now. Love it.

My first thoughts are that Im amazed by the scale. I'm nearly finished the game now and I'm still shocked by the size of these environments. It seems to lack a LITTLE bit of the soul found in 2 and 3, but that seems to be more of a cartridge size issue than anything else.

Favorite scene: dat dance with ninten and ana to this music - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdkFR87Lhc

>> No.952676

>>950253
wow, I forgot he said that
I guess censorship isn't perfect

>> No.952694

>been playing Earthbound every couple of years since it first came out
>sort of bored of it
>start new game
>use Game Genie to start as Jeff instead of Ness (meaning no Ness for the whole game)
>use Debug Menu to give Jeff his starting equipment from Winters
>everything works as intended without any glitches; Sanctuaries and events work fine
>game is now somehow both really easy (because Jeff is really strong early on thanks to his gear) and hard (no PSI)
>get to Paula
>she joins the party
>Jeff gets in the back of the line like a fucking beta and doesn't say a peep as Paula proceeds to handle business for the rest of the game

I don't know why that tickled me so much.

>> No.952708

>>952676

He only says that if you've named your favorite food "Shit."

>> No.952789

>>952708
oh lol, now I remember him saying that

>> No.952813

>>952694
can you tell me where you got those codes anon? I'd like to breathe some new lief into EB

>> No.952820

>>952676
You didn't forget.. it never happened

>>952789
surrreee you do

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I wish there were Mother 3 figures.
Even the first game had some nice ones.

>> No.953206

I'll be honest, I prefer this over Mother 2. I only had problems in the beginning because I was so low leveled, and I had no problem with Mt Itoi at all.

>> No.953298

>>953206

What? Mt. Itoi's enemies are obnoxious even at level 99. It's a hilariously undertested area and even itoi's admitted that.

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>>953186
I never understood why either. I mean people would definitely buy them. Does Itoi have any control over merchandise like that? I really wish there was more MOTHER/2/3 merchandise and figures myself.

>> No.953565

>>928704
>>928735

The grinding is why I haven't finished it. It's not like the second or third games where you see the enemies, you just walk around and it's random encounter. I'm sort of stuck at the part where you get the girl for the first time and the enemies were annoying the fuck out of me. I rage quit. I have to pick it up again one of these days.

>> No.953581

>>931069

Yeah, I haven't finished it yet but I got this really somber feeling in the Magic world where Mary was. I just enjoy symbolism and things not being what they appear on the surface and always saw the whole thing when Mary in this world as a woman who's been giving god like psionic powers but she doesn't full comprehend them so it's treated like magic.

>> No.953590

>>932457

>Plus theres a mother 1 moment in mother 3.


What's that? I haven't beaten both yet.

>> No.953596

It's a really good game, and I didn't find it too grindy at all.

I remember I had to look up a map online for that huge factory though, just because all the backgrounds were so similar that I got really confused.

It lost my interest a bit over half-way through, but its a game I've always been meaning to go back to. I actually think there's a good chance of Nintendo giving it an official western release now that Earthbound is out and is doing so well.
I assume they will hold-off until the Wii U has a better install base though - sometime 2014. Or maybe a 3DS release?

>> No.953602

its not even very grindy you should get enough battles just by walking to where you need to go

>> No.953627

>>949328

Since this game encourages you to make your own intrepretations I also think the light heartedness of it is masking real problems in a childs eyes. That being said, I think Porky's parents were abusive. They sort of imply that in the beginning.

I also think Porky's mom knew what she doing when she killed Buzz Buzz. I mean that guy just blew an alien away and then gets destroyed by a white woman in the surburbs? Come on. Giygas is a being that transcends space-time so he probably was influencing Porky and his family from the beginning seeing how they were so close to Ness.

>> No.953628

>>949513

>I just realized that was a bar.

WOW... that makes a lot more sense now.

>> No.953635

>>950405

Prepare to rage quit Pikmin 1

>> No.953639

>>952649

>dat music

Damn if I was musicly talented I'd make a bad ass guitar remake of it. It reminds me of the band Minus the Bear for some reason. Sounds like something they would right.

>> No.953643

>>953186

I need these

>> No.953645

>>953635
pikmin one isnt hard tho

>> No.953981

>>953565
Did you played the NES or the GBA version?

>> No.953994

>>953492
There are actually a lot of Mother 2 figures, and about five Mother figures, but considering that Mother 3 never had clay models, that may be a reason as to why it never had any made. The figures in this display are fan made. They're ok. I think the enemies look great but that the protags could use some more work.

>>953643
They're really nice. I'm nearly finished with my Mother display case. I have been meaning to post it in this thread, but I'm still waiting on two more figures (Ness' mom, and their pet dog). Unless perhaps my fellow anons want to see the work in progress?

>>953596
Did you play with the easy ring?
I only need two more melodies, and I'm nearing everyone's favorite part of the game; Mt. Itoi. I really hope Nintendo of America acknowledges this series (despite being over with) some more, but I fear of unnecessary censorship much like Mother 2 received in the West.

>>953628
I'm telling you it's way better to play through Mother2/Earthbound with this http://legendsoflocalization.com/earthbound/ .
It displays everything that was censored in the West, and it really made me appreciate the game a lot more. It also showcases when the translation team managed to do good, bad, or even missed lines of text altogether. I played through the game while looking through this and it was an overall better experience. Fuck censorship.

>>953627
Porky's parents ARE abusive. If you read the original text when he shows up at Ness' house, he claims that if he doesn't get his little brother back he's going to receive 100 spankings versus what the US text says "I'm gonna get it..." When you get to Porky's home, when his father chases after him you don't hear the "yell" sound effect in the JP version, but instead the "smash" sound. So yeah, Porky got his ass whoop.

>>953635
There's no way I can. Even my girlfriend beat it twice.

>> No.954163

>>953627
Ness only lives close to Porky's family.
The Minch family hates Ness' family due to some loan that persumably Ness' dad ran off with.

>> No.954239

>>953994

nope, I didn't use the easy ring.

>> No.955870

>>953994
>http://legendsoflocalization.com/earthbound/

Yes, that's old news. Let us know when there's a patch that puts all the censored shit back in (or translates the japanese rom).

>> No.956450

>>953628
>>949513

There was also another change Tomato didn't mention on his article, and that is that the name of the bar owner on Mother 2 is Borges, I think they changed it to some other generic name on EarthBound. Well, Borges may be a random name, but Itoi being Itoi, I suspects that was a reference to Jorge Luis Borges, a famous author who I'm sure Itoi likes to read.

You know, it wouldn't be the first reference to something he likes, there is also Grateful Dead Valley on Mother 2 ("Peaceful Rest" on EB).

>> No.956804

>>956450
Actually, it was mentioned that his name was changed.
>>955870
That's easier said than done...

>> No.958091

Bump!

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On to Summers!

>> No.958143

speaking of legendsoflocalization, when is Tomato going to update the Mother 3 section? He hasn't done or said anything about it for over three months now

>> No.959678

>>958143
That's a really good question...
I would like for him to be able to finish it someday but he must be busy with his own life.

>> No.959716

>>948728

Turns out I broke sequence and got Duster early. The Pigmask majors were intentionally made almost too hard to beat before the Chimera Lab.

It took me like 5 attempts, the trick is to time your healing so you can recover from mortal blows right before they finish draining your life meter.

>> No.959719

>>949513

Final Fantasy did the same shit.

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Hey guys, I just started my first playthrough of Earthbound a couple of days ago and I love the shit out of the game

However, I'm kind of stuck in the swamp place.
After visiting the village of the shy creatures I should teleport to winters but there seems to be no teleportation room anywhere in the area of the swamp and I can't get back to the continent from there either. Am I missing something?

>> No.961084

>>961075
Poo has another version of teleport that is extremely useful. Try that.

>> No.961092

>>961084
ah, I never thought about that. Now I can finally get away from that god awful place and its music

>> No.961104

>>961092
Funny. The Deep Darkness is one of my favorite areas in the game.

>> No.961218

>>961104
you can't be serious. The swamp is tedious as fuck

>> No.961225

>>961218
I don't know. I didn't think it was that bad. I like a well-done swamp level. I enjoyed the hell out of 5-2 in Demon's Souls as well, and it seems like no one likes that level.

And the music track for Deep Darkness is among my favorite in the game.

>> No.961227

Mother 3 has a tedious-as-fuck swamp too.

What makes it worse is that your character is tripping balls.

>> No.961248

>>961227
well I'm glad I'm still nowhere near finishing earthbound. Only after I'm done with it it will I start playing Mother 3

>> No.961254

>>961227
I don't remember Mother 3's swamp being tedious at all. Then again, I don't see how Mother 2's is tedious either. It's a pretty small area.

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I just finished the original Mother and I can now say that I finished the entire series.

That ending when Ninten's father calls to inform you to not rest easy yet... What the fuck does that even imply?

Other than that, it was nice. I definitely prefer 2 & 3, but the original really isn't a bad game at all.

>> No.961271

>>961259
It's just setting up a sequel. How Mother 1 and Mother 2 are connected is extremely unclear. All we know is what Mother 2 tells us.

>> No.961282

>>961271
I know that, it's just as you stated. How they're connected is very unclear.

>> No.961295

>>961259
>>961282
Presumably Ninten was going to be the main character in the next game and then they changed their mind and disregarded the first game ending. Or maybe he was hinting to the player that their would be a sequel.

Also, why would Pokey's name change to Porky.

>> No.961302

>>961295
Well, Tomato changed his name to Porky to make the joke more obvious. See, when you say Pokey the way a Japanese person would, it comes out sounding like Porky.

I'm assuming it was just a way to let us know that a sequel was imminent.

>> No.961303 [DELETED] 

>>961295
Porky's name never changed. It was mistranslated, purposely or not.

>> No.961317

>>961302
So... in Japan "pork" means the same thing as in English? I don't get.

>> No.961324

>>961317
it isn't the same word per se, but they pick up other places jokes. kind of like we have mexican words in our diction

>> No.961331

>>953590
music near the end

>> No.961469

>>956804

>easier said than done

Fortunately, with PK Hack, there wouldn't be too much to change and tinker with. The real issue is that such a revised take on the game is pretty pedantic since majority of the fans love the game even with the censors and screwups.

>> No.961487

>>961295
>>961302
>>961317

The Japanese spelling "ポーキー" could be translated as either "Pokey" or "Porky" or similar. In essence the Earthbound version is technically correct, but the Japanese guides and the sequel spell it out (in English too, in the backgrounds) as Porky. Tomato merely stuck to Porky in Mother 3 since it's easier to change dialogue text than sprites and Smash Bros Brawl went along with Porky by then.

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>>961469
No one's preventing them from playing their carts or the original ROM. So those people can't complain. If they did they would have to be the worse kind of retard.

So, is there an uncensored English ROM with everything re translated with Tomato's job instead? Is someone perhaps working on one?

>> No.961650

>>961554

I wouldn't be surprised to see one eventually appear, but so far no one has. Like I said, it seems more like a low priority for some fans to worry with, and Tomato didn't want to tangle with the GBA version due to the insane coding for text.

>> No.961748

>>961650
The GBA version is inferior anyway.
I rather someone do it on the original SNES version.

>> No.961784

>>930731
That picture makes me really want to buckle down and play Mother 1.

P.S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRs1PslPrQ

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>> No.962787

I've had the ROM of the GBA version for ages and totally forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me to play it, OP.
I just beat the Duncan factory and headed over to Snowman. The run button and easy ring make this game so much more enjoyable than when I tried to tackle it in Earthbound Zero.

Ninten is like level 29 and Loid is level 23, and I haven't gotten Ana yet. Have the first 3 melodies too.
Roughly how far would you say I am into the game? With all of the necessary grinding being removed it feels rather short.

>> No.963094

>>962787
Honest to god, there's not that much grinding required, even without this "easy ring" or whatever. You have to grind in the very beginning for the graveyard, and for a little bit whenever you pick up a new character. Otherwise, it's a smooth ride. And it's really not that long. I mean, it's a NES game, after all. You're nearing the half-way point now.

>> No.963537

>>963094
The main reason I've left it on is less about exp and more about random encounter frequency.
It lowers it notably.

>> No.963543

>>963537
Ah. Yeah, the encounter rate was pretty high, wasn't it?

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>>962787

you are about 35% into the game.

>> No.963951

>>963941
>no hat

That ain't my Ana.

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>>962787

>Level 29
>Snowman

overleveled, no surprise since you're using the easy ring

>> No.966134

>>963537
That's why you buy repel rings.

>> No.966506

>>931003

Wasn't it heavily implied in Earthbound that Ness' father is Ninten himself?

>> No.966508

>>966506
...no?

>> No.966539

>>954163

>due to some loan that persumably Ness' dad ran off with.

It was a presumption or even a flat-out lie. Porky's dad even mutters that Ness' dad maybe didn't borrow as much money as he claims he did. And we're shown through the game how much of a douchebag he is, so yeah, he was very likely lying about Ness' dad being in some huge debt to him.

>> No.966541

>>966506
Ness's father is phone

>> No.966547

>>966506
It's just a theory.
>When Mother was being translated for EarthBound Zero (and later for the release of Mother 1 + 2), the year the game takes place in was retroactively changed from 1988 to the early 1980s. This makes it possible that Ness's Father could be Ninten, as the new dates given make it conceivable for Ninten to have a 13-year-old child in 199X. Also, being that Ness's Mother has blonde hair, that means that Ness's Father had to have black hair to give Ness the black hair gene. Ninten has black hair, which makes it more possible. This would also explain why Ness has psychic abilities, much like Ninten.

>> No.966578

>>966547
>that means that Ness's Father had to have black hair to give Ness the black hair gene
Fucktons of people have black hair, also it doesn't explain why the girls in the games and Lucas etc are psychic

>> No.966647

>>966547
Yeah, that's as flimsy as any other theory, really. A retcon and hair color?

>> No.968714

Bump!

>> No.968718

>>966578
everyone in that game is a psychic, in mother one it was explained that humans forgot how to use PSI thousands of years ago, everyone can use SPI, but they don't even know what it is.

>> No.969016

>>968718
That was mentioned in Mother?
I beat the game a few days ago and I never came across that...

>> No.969018

>>966539
You right.

>> No.969665

>>969018
All this story is amazing.

>> No.970386

I just got fought the Plague Rat of Doom. I heard he was nasty as a boss but surprisingly he was easy. He didn't even get an attack in edgewise. (He made a big grin on his face, then tried to poison a teddy bear.)

>> No.970410

>>970386
Well, first of all, Earthbound is an easy game, so everything "hard" is graded on a curve. Secondly, the bosses are usually not the problem, there are a lot more dangerous normal enemies than bosses.

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>> No.972267

So why was this never released stateside? Seems like a cute game.

>> No.972281

>>972267
It was being set for release at the same time the SNES was, so they decided it would cost too much money to release and market the game when they already had a new console on the horizon. It was just poor timing.

Mother 3 didn't make an international release for similar reasons, too.

>> No.973318

>>972281
That just makes me sad.

>> No.974896

Bump

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OP here.

After 2 crashes and a camping trip for a week I am back and have recharged my batteries. I am off to get my 3rd party member now.

Thanks for keeping this alive you glorious bastards.

I love you.

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>>975318
Forgot pic.

>> No.975318

>>975291
I got another item chest/party member. I just need to get her back alive.

I am worried cause Ninten almost died in one hit from a bigfoot and he is a pretty high level.

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I think Mother is a great, immersive and well balanced game, until you get to freaking Mt. Itoi. I wish they didn't rush it so much right near the ending.

>> No.975428

>>975368
Wonderful image, that.

>> No.975768

Are the roms out in the Internet generally free from the anti-piracy things? I want to start playing Earthbound but I don't want to live in fear of playing a crooked version.

Or should I just wait till I get Wii U? Earthbound, Super Smash Bros and Wind Waker HD are the only games I'm getting the thing for.

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Every room looks the same.

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>>976123
>>976123
This tank is the best ever.

>> No.977016

>>976123
Yeah. I love Mother, but I really could've done without this and Duncan's Factory.

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>>975876

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Teleport is annoying as fuck to use.

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You guys want the full set?

>> No.977549

>>976286
Is dat some Tetsujin?

>> No.977556

>>977549

That's actually the robot that appears on the TV commercial.

>> No.977645

>>977516
Of course.

>> No.977810

>>961084
i just realized this too

based poo

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I feel like i am getting close to the end.

>> No.978008

>>977940
Yeah, you're pretty much in the home stretch now.

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>>978008
Yeah, I figured with how forced this romance is and shit.

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Weeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>978141
We having fun.

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the melodies played automatically in my head
goddamn, i want to play earthbound again.

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It has been a lot of fun /vr/. This has been one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences in my 26 years on this earth and I am glad I could share it with you.

I am moving onto Mother 2 but won't be making a thread for it since those seem to be a dime a dozen on this place.

Thank you for going on this journey with me.

>> No.978580

>>978532
You're welcome OP, I thank you for making it happen in first place.

We never have serious discussions about it.

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Seeing this shit finished gave me feels.

>> No.979901

>>978532
Glad you had a good time, OP.