/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9276334
Obligatory. I still can't see the sprite correctly unless I focus really hard.

What exactly is a deadass? I thought it exclusively was used as a emphatic phrase, not a noun.

>>9276372
I fell for this, didn't help I played earthbound before alttp so had porky on the mind.

>>9276334
Yes
>>9276372
No

Here's one that seems very silly, but hear me out. When I was a kid we had our NES hooked up to an old TV that my parents got in the 80s from a hotel that was throwing out their sets to replace them with newer ones. It was very fuzzy and low-quality. Because of how fuzzy it was, the FF1 Black Belt's fist looked like one solid flesh color that matched his face color and the blue line between his face and fist was not visible. On top of that, when he punched the fist in front of his face didn't move (or not that I remember), so it looked like a hand was coming out from the other side to punch.

tl;dr - I thought the FF1 Black Belt's fist was a big round clown nose because of our awful old TV.

>>9276334
I always saw it this way too.

>>9276334
Can't find a pic but Sage Luka (SoM) on SNES. Looks like my grandma in a belly dancer costume.

>>9276420
it's the same meaning, just pidgined into a noun.

0MSMH

Post the Mario bird one and the Robotnick face one.

>>9276420
guess it like a combination of
>how i deadass saw it
and
>how my dumbass saw it
i like it. i'm gonna steal that one.

what's the most accurately emulated retro system?
8-16bit systems seem pretty much perfected but there's always someone nitpicking little things that i'd never notice. are any of them 100% accurate and if not what comes closest?

>>9276612
In the days of RF on tiny SD televisions there's no way anyone was able to see his actual pupils. You can barely see them in the thumbnail.

>>9276334
Good drawing

>>9276848
I thought I was the only one who saw the dog jowls in this sprite.

>>9276887
Took me a second to see that today, at first I thought it was a platypus in a bikini.

>>9276334
I got smb3 at launch and was in kindergarten. To this day my mind ignores Wendy's lips and just sees a scowl, pic related.

>>9276334
I got smb3 at launch and was in kindergarten. To this day my mind ignores Wendy's lips and just sees a scowl, pic related.

I still have to struggle to see it correctly

>>9276947
Shit, this got me too. Always thought it was a pile of bones.

>>9276947
>>9276965
I see the corpse lying on its back.

>>9276848
godda sabe da brincess :DDD

>>9276673
Good ol' Captain Vidya.

>>9276996
Same. I literally cannot see it any other way lmao.

>>9276848
Oh shidd anobver airshit XDDD sorry AIRSHIBD gorrection :DDDD oh no gaem obur how?????

>>9276372
Still have a hard time seeing him as the right.

>>9277090
Thats reaching,

He's wearing a black tanktop but I thought that all those black pixels were a beard and that the black line between his chin and torso was his mustache
I was 6

>>9277242
i can see it

>>9276937
The way you removed the lower part of her mouth in this image makes it look like a censored pic of her sucking someone off, anon

>>9277242
you can't fool me that's definitely tomar

I don't know wtf they actually are but the little purple bastards in the sewers of the original NES TMNT game always looked like purple crab claws with tiny legs, where the claw acts as a head with a mouth.


Also theblittle purple dude with a beard is clearly Nick Mullen, don't know wtf a Tomar is but that's a Mullennif I've ever seen one.

I remember noticing this right in the middle of the playthrough and it was impossible to unsee. I had to put in a pretty decent amount of effort not to laugh like a retard every time she was on screen for the entire rest of the game. It was especially bad during the emotional scenes (i was playing with my brother).

>>9276996
Leisurely reading a book.

>>9277375
You motherfucker......delete that before it burns into my brain

>>9277391
This is the rational interpretation of the sprites. You can't put things that look like eyes in places that eyes would normally be and not expect people to run with that.

>>9276334

The J-coins.
For years I wondered what the J might stand for.

>>9276334
OP is retarded

>>9277145
Congrats, you've figured out the thread

>>9276372
I also have to focus to see Agahnim as intended.

>>9276334
Everything from smw is so derpy looking. I guess it must have been part of the 90s fugly trend but that game is hideous.

>>9277391
oracles had some really bad boss sprites, but koume and kotake are just terrible

For once I'll agree with OP. Why was Bowser's palette so limited in SMW? This is the final boss, shouldn't that be deserving of his own row od colors?

>>9277782
Because by some reason the graphics were fucking shit. Any one has an explanation on why the colors in super mario world were so lofi and palettes were better even on a sega master system game?

>>9277782
Cant believe the feather originally also gave you a yee yee-ass helmet, reminds me of kid chameleon

>>9277782
They realized CRT and tube tvs would make the limited palette look better

>>9277785
>colors palette >low fidelity
excuse me what

>>9277369
kek I saw this too.

Wily's got some big-ass feet.

How did no one post this yet

>>9278082
>it ain't gonna suck itself

For the longest time I thought Quote was looking sideways instead to the angled front

>>9278084
They reference this as a minion in XIV

>>9277369
>>9278071
It's obviously titties. You two are gay.

>>9278084
classic

>"Hey guy's, what's going on in this thread?"

>>9278260
Away with you, vile beast!

>>9278260
Hey there, evil Christmas tree.

>>9278260
The best thing about this one is that neither side will concede that the other has a point. Everyone pretends that it's impossible to see it the other way.

>>9278260
>>9278285
>>9278290
>>9278293
explain
i see some kind of evil spaceship top-down

>>9278296

>>9278304
what's this from?
i'm team middle.

>>9278306
The Black Omen from Chrono Trigger. It's supposed to be a Star Destroyer but the perspective is screwy so a lot of people saw it as a floating tower.

>>9278306
It's the Black Omen from Chrono Trigger.

>>9278313
>xenomorph queen with big floppy hangers
you're welcome

I still see it to this day

>>9278313
It's cooler as a tower, so that's how i'll continue to see it.

>>9277785
You want a real explanation? It's probably a combo of just wanting a simple, cartoonish art style (very reminiscent of games like Pac-Land, desu) and also cartridge space limitations (big, simple flat shaded graphics are a lot easier to tile and compress compared to something more shaded/detailed, and cartridge ROM was still pretty expensive at the launch of the SNES). One of the Nintendo leaks a couple years ago included multiple iterations of Mario's player sprite for SMW in different styles, so it seems pretty likely that Nintendo experimented with the game's visuals before settling with the style in the final release.

i always saw the omen as intended but i never noticed the battle platform is always visable

i did make this mistake however

Chrono Trigger is notorious for this. The sprites are so detailed and so many enemies are weird alien things that it's easy to see things wrong.

>>9276429
I never played FF1, so i'm gonna ask this now.
Is the dark curvy pixel line right to his "clown nose fist" supposed to be a chin outline? Because I really see only a wide derpy clown smile.

>>9277827
it's still pretty bad in SMW and always was. I never thought about it before today, but even SMB's colors have more pop than SMW. It was definitely a step backward or none at all.

>>9278437
If I ever thought about it at all, I probably thought it was bling. But it's totally a chin shadow, yes.

>>9278430
What messes people up is that you can't see the front of the ship during that fight so it's easy to misunderstand where you're standing. Then right after the thing disintegrates like this.

>>9278437
It's meant to be a chin line but I have definitely seen it as a big goofy smile before, too.

>>9278443
yeah that is a screw up cause they could have just had the entire ship disintegrate in uniform if its descending. counter argument the omen is tipping down like the titanic

anyone else think the tyrano had no pupils except those tiny black pixels are its pupils

>>9278472
Yeah, I didn't start noticing the pupils until emulation became a thing. That kind of thing blurs away if you're playing on composite.

>>9278461
yeah i actually hate how square doesnt give 2 shits about keeping the characters designs the way we grew up with. for the love of fuck terra has GREEN hair. it fits in the lore perfectly. everyone else in the ff6 universe have normal hair colors (except for gau but hes a demon child anyway). it hints that sometihngs off about terra- that shes not human. also its green. like life. like the fucking earth. like TERRA

beta design is closer but then she has short hair

>>9278485
The devs intended you to not see the pupils bruh

>>9278335
So do I. Granted, it couldn't look different on a 14" CRT through RF.

>>9277391
I still don't set what they intended

>>9276848
I always thought the hat was one of his arms. So he'd be covering his head with one arm with the elbow sticking up.

>>9278461
Isn't the blue armor guy supposed to be Garland? He's got the horns and everything. In the PS1 version of FF1 he's in a cutscene when you boot up the game killing a dragon all by himself, presumably to get you hyped up for fighting Garland with how cool and strong he is.

>>9278681
nah its supposed to be the red guy. they gave him alternate costumes to assure people it is the same guy you played in ff1

>>9278432
How can you see this when the hair is clearly a different color?

>>9278716
Wow, I genuinely never would have guessed that. For 20 years I thought that was Garland.

>>9278504
God this art is so shit it alike an 8 year old drew this. How the fuck is Amano still doing final fantasy art?

>>9277391
>>9277471
doesn't help that the games have plenty of other characters with big, colored noses

>>9278575
their side sprites convey the intented look a bit better, but you only see those when they're moving

>>9278734
that's pretty good if an 8 year old drew that

queen zeal was the real winner of chrono trigger
sure you 'beat lavos' but she lived for 14000 years inside a floating techno palace

i have several from ff6. i thought the red parts of their ears were their eyes. the yellow dot that is actually their eyes, i dont think i even noticed it on my small tv.

didnt realize these were curled up worms with faces. thought they were just big mouths and the face was their big glistening eye

i thought gogo was this weird yellow monster. his actual human eye area, i thought that was his smiling mouth. and his eyes were 2 dots in his red bandana.

>>9278769
Mommy

>>9278749

>>9278720
not the corners of the beard. and the center area can be shiny parts like the rim of the scalp

>>9278734
100% agree. he draws steampunk scenery pretty well tho

>>9278769
also sometihng that hasnt dawned on me until recently- zeal never dies. shes alive somewhere like schala

>>9278778
I always thought the red of their ears were exposed brain popping out the top of their head and they had no visible ears. I think they were called "Were Rat" in the original translation and in my little kid mind that translated to them being horror monsters.

>>9276372
I saw him as the left, but now I can't unsee him as the right.
His artwork having his mouth covered probably didn't help with the intended effect.

>>9278778
That's a good one
>>9278787
This I don't see

>>9277330

>>9278865
So it's a Jew?

>>9279127
kek, I was thinking of him more like a drunk homeless drifter but I guess that works, too.

>>9278765
Granted, but the style is still atrocious. Guy took "anime was a mistake" WAY too literally.

>>9278163
Same. Until the remake with "new"graphics I did not notice it.

>>9277534
>gold coin
>Letter J

Makes you think

>>9278237
Oh God, that's hilarious, nice one

I see that I am not the only one who always saw a big gaping mouth with Shadow

>>9277647

This one always trips me up.

>>9278304
The problem isn't so much the sprite itself but the sprite combined with the world map.

The perspective does not fit.

>>9279758
Oh yeah, I used to see that too. But after a while I realized it was a mistake and now I can't even see it anymore if I try.

>>9276947
it's hardly ever worth trying to understand gore piles in most of these games. no reason to feel bad about it.
half the time i don't think they even tried to make them look like anything; i never tortured myself with this

Agahnim still makes me feel like I was a dummy though

>>9278196
Nothing about Action 52 was your fault, anon.

>>9278436
White woman moment.

>>9279758
>>shadow is suddenly a pit bulll

>>9279525

>>9276334
How did you see this?
He’s drawn with no pupils, which isn’t what being cross eyed is.
Your brain would have to remove the color green from his sclera in order for you to see this.
I don’t understand how this is possible for you or anyone to see.

>>9278427
Your interpretation is correct. The original design for Samus was Nigel Thornberry in his classic rock phase.

>>9279770
I think that image does a good job of showing how the shadow kind of fucks things up in addition. The third one is how the shadow actually looks in the game and that combined with the clashing perspectives between the world map and the ship really does make things very ambiguous.

>>9278472
>counter argument the omen is tipping down like the titanic
If the sprite tilted that would work but it doesn't. It just falls ass first. It's kind of a mind screw if you know its a Star Destroyer since the angles of both the ship and the sphere consuming it make no sense when combined.

>>9279913
You can always tell who's too young to know what these games looked like on a 13" CRT over RF.

>>9277391
So you saw the sprites as intended?

>>9280116
fucking what? What did you think the eyes were?

>>9280126
just color shading for like a brow i guess. i know it sounds retarded but its just what i initially saw and never gave it a second thought.

>>9278793
>>9278778
damn, these two got me just now.

>>9278575
>>9280124
What that anon illustrated as colored marks on their cheeks are the bulbous eyes sticking out to the side. The chin is the nose. The nose is the gem. The eyes are, I guess part of the hair. The hair in the sprite gets a little messy but it's hair tied together with a decorated band like you can see in the official art.

>>9277761
Probably has more to do with its development in general where they tried multiple artstyles, including pillowshading, and in the end just slapped together what looked the best and most finished.

>>9279127
>>9279525
The irony of being on /vr/ and not realizing that video games are a Jewish invention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_H._Baer

>>9279770
Almost everything about it is tailored to cause confusion. It's an evolution of the Ocean Palace despite looking totally different. And the word "palace" implies it's a stationary building rather than a mobile submarine so when it starts floating in the sky it's easy to assume the same thing applies. But instead it's supposed to be a starship that you never see fly anywhere. The only hint to this is Ayla's comment "fish become bird" but since it's Ayla saying it you aren't of the mind to take it too literally.

>>9279758
I used to think that big oval was like a scuba visor or something.

>>9278313
How is it not a tower? You fight Zeal on the very top of it at the end. You take elevators and shit throughout it

pencil gun

>>9278427
smashing

>>9280362

The pencil is mightier than the sword!

>>9280463
Thanks to me they were right!

>>9280349
You do fight her on the "top" but what counts as the top is really the center of the sprite. It's the top of the ship's bridge. And you really don't travel vertically all that much. The Epoch drops you off in the back by the engines and you spend a lot of the time walking north. You only take two elevators in the entire thing.

The Black Omen's floor plan is actually very accurate to it's intended design. It's just the overworld sprite that's a mess.

>>9280503
https://youtu.be/7ItZuPJvuzo

>>9280141
god i wish the round eye monsters were put in. they have serious snes wacky era earthbound 2/smw1 and 2 vibes.

>>9280094
well to make it more convincing they would have to redraw the entire omen sprite at a downward slant and that would have taken a lot of space in the rom. originally the tyrano was supposed to submerge from its cave with glowing yellow eyes in the prototype but they had to can the idea cause they would need to store like 4 variants of the massive dinosaur spite just for a 1-time 2-3 second long cool effect. also how the fuck did they get there if the entrance is cornered off like that? and is that a tyrano egg?? i would love to play this beta

>>9280362
Nice

>>9280180
Those wiki articles say he patented the home video game console, there were video games for at least 10 years prior to him doing that.

>>9280741
It depends on what you count. You could go as far back as Tennis For Two but that's not really what people consider a "video game." The definition becomes hard to pin down until the Odyssey, which was unambiguously a video game.

>>9280940
If you're going to discount things that are unequivocally video games on the basis of primitiveness of the technology, not being played on televisions, you could easily discount the Magnetbox as well. It looks more like a board game system that uses the television as an accessory than anything resembling what a living person would describe as a video game.

>>9280993
The television part is a critical aspect of the "video" in "video game" though isn't it? Again, I get that it's nebulous but there are valid reasons to consider those very early electronic games that don't actually carry a video signal to not fit the bill. They're relevant to the evolution of the hobby but it's kind of like how a T. Rex isn't a chicken.

>>9280463
A Penis Mightier!

>>9280180
Sega was founded by a jew. Sad news indeed

>>9281021
too bad he didn't stay the chairman, maybe then they wouldn't have made multiple retarded business moves in a row

>>9280362
Dan Jones is that you?
>>9280098
Then OP should have said that in the pic, he’s showing raw pixels and saying “I’m legally blind”. I’m 30 you fucking dinosaur, I only played RF on a shitty tv as a kid.

>>9281032
Lol Bernie Stolar was a Jew (Hitler is shitting in his mouth from heaven down into hell) and he absolutely set Sega ablaze with bad decisions and killed them forever. He is the primary person you can point to for Sega crashing and burning as hard as they did. He didn’t understand his own consumers even a little bit.

>>9281043
You talk way too young to be 30

>>9281043
The inside of Bowser's eyebrow looks like a pupil, dude.

>>9276334
I used to think these wasps in Sonic had little police caps. That yellow bit is meant to be an antenna but looked like the sheen on the visor and badge.
>>9280141
Damn that Larry Koopa looks gorgeous. Wonder if that black silhouette in the top was mean to be the template for Morton Ludwig and Roy in the same style

I still can't understand what they were going for with this one.

>how my deadass saw it
Don’t use nigger slang if you don’t know how

>>9281443
Is there even a different way to interpret this?

>>9281450
>Don’t use nigger slang
ftfy

>>9281443
>>9281454
his other sprites look normal
what bugs me about him is his name
every other maverick has an animal based name, but he's just a "beast"
not a lion, not a jaguar, not a cheetah, not a leopard, nor a hyena, just "beast"
ig he's supposed to be a mix of multiple animals but it's still weird

>>9278313
>>9278315
>>9278304
I always thought it was a star destroyer, but I can see why many people would think it's a tower/pyramid and honestly, it'd be even cooler if it was a pyramid.

>>9280141
the sea monsters or sharks would've been fucking terrifying

>>9281473
I think it's clearly a star destroyer and anyone who thinks it's a tower is gay

>>9281070
Point out exactly where I “talk too young” you decrepit skeleton.
>>9281141
Okay, I see what you mean now but that’s really a stretch.

>>9276334
It's a terrible sprite, I don't see how anyone could see it the correct way. Why would they draw the eyebrow that way? Weirder considering an earlier version of the sprite doesn't have that issue and looks exactly the same.

Another Chrono Trigger example. Thought this was some kind of beaked bird creature for the longest time.

>>9281980
oh yeah you sparked an old memory. i dont remember what i thought it looked like but it definitely wasnt a flower

>>9281947
probably because they assumed people weren't retarded

eyebrows drawn as they are in the final sprite are very common in cartoons and the like as they emphasize and exaggerate an angered/menacing expression

>>9281998
If something is small, round, and approximately at eye level then it's very likely to be misinterpreted as the actual eye on a standard definition CRT. That's a pretty common theme in all of these.

There's a literal term for it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

If the sprite is ambiguous enough for a face to be seen where it shouldn't be then the entire sprite will be misinterpreted around that false face.

This is one of my favorites. I never saw it before and now it's all I can see.

A classic.

Apologies.

>>9278443
It’s objective that they fucked up this sprite. Even if a minority of people saw it as a star destroyer, they were looking through a cloud of poor presentation.

>>9277827
CRT radiation has given you a brain tumor

I think I lost IQ points reading this thread. A few like Bowser and Black Omen are indeed bad but almost all the rest wtf

I have trouble not seeing Mega Man X as a Disney dog person.

>>9281998
I've never seen a cartoon characters eyebrow end with a dot that goes into the white of their eye.

>>9281639
You look at OP's pic (raw pixels upscaled) and say: "no way anyone could've seen this". Someone comes to you and makes a post implying you had to be playing on a 13'' CRT on RF in order to see it like this. Then you go around and say "then OP should have said that in the pic", and proceed to make questionably true claims (based on your assumptions before the period) in some kind of attempt to give your post validity.

I find it very hard to belive a person who played that on release would do all this. The fact that you claim to be 30—AKA born in 1992 or 1993, one or two years ater SMW's release—really doesn't help at all also. There's no shame in being a zoomer but there is shame in being a lying faggot who doubles down on his bullshit once he's called out.

>>9282053
Lol

Didn't goofy fuck Max's girlfriend?

>>9282142
You are a dumb black gorilla nigger.
Also thanks for making me look at my license, my shit expired and I didn’t even realize it.

>>9282154
Had to reload page and retype comment and photo didn’t post, woops. You’re still a dumber nigger than me.

>>9282215
It looks like a chode wearing a cape.

this is a tooth with a face on it

>>9282053
oh my god fuck you

>>9282053
LOL this ruins Megaman X forever, thanks anon. Capcom also did the max and goofy game so as far as I’m concerned this is official.

To all the anons wondering “wtf how did the developers not see that”
I don’t know if there’s a name for this phenomenon, but another one which is often involved in the creative process is the artist going through multiple drafts/redraws and not realizing that the one they settle on doesn’t convey the information they were originally trying to communicate.
Basically, if you went back in time to the artist who was responsible for drawing Bowser and showed him that sprite before he’d started working on it, he’d probably ask why the eyebrows were so weird and had a part which looked like pupils; but if you let him go through all of the iterations he did where he was trying to get the sprite just right, he’s going through a thinking process the rest of us aren’t privy to, to the point where he probably couldn’t see it the way OP does if he tried—his brain has different and more information about what the sprite is supposed to be than we do, but at the expense of him not seeing flaws which make it convey something different or incomplete to the audience. (I could also see that being a factor in the star destroyer case, even though that was also likely muddled by having different people work on objects and backgrounds).

This is why it’s important to re-read essays before you submit them, and get the perspectives of others from time to time when drawing—you might have started out with a clear vision in mind, but along the way edit out some lines where you justify one of your conclusions and make it look like you just pulled it out of your ass at the last second; or you draw two or more overlapping details too close together in a way which makes your drawing look like…well, some of the sprites being discussed ITT.

>>9281947
Hell, some of the older versions flat out had actual pupils.

>>9282484

>>9282484
What I wanna know is why the pod had the retarded ass clown face, it was out of nowhere.

>>9276334
Honestly it's kinda just poor pixel art.
Pic related is 5 minutes in photoshop.

>>9276334

I thought that Bombman wears a helmet l instead of having mohawk

I thought the joke in Super Mario World is that the "turtles" were actually insects wearing turtle shells.

Skinny koopa were some insect, shell kicking ones were fat caterpillars and super koopa were flying termites.

>>9278914
those are supposed to be the Mouser robots from the comics
no idea why they’re purple

>>9282591
>I thought the joke in Super Mario World is that the "turtles" were actually insects wearing turtle shells.
i have a friend who to this day calls koopas ducks. he has always thought they looked like ducks, despite having turtle shells and only some of them having wings (and the winged ones still have turtle shells).

>>9278196
IS THAT A PURPLE ABYSS OF GREEN ELTON JOHN HEADS I'M LOOKING AT

So glad as a European I grew up using SCART and never once had any of these issues.

>>9281443
fuck you now I can't unsee it

Always thought as a kid that he had a giant, shiteating grin on his face instead of a mustache.

>>9276420
>dead ass serious
Fuck

>>9280180
>Germany
Is 1940s Germany where a lot of the greatest minds in history came from? We got rocket scientists, we got vidya games, there's probably some other big stuff that came from that place that I just haven't thought about.

>>9282660
It's a known facr that war breeds technical advancements

>>9282053
Kek

>>9280362
i used to put black colored pencils close to my right eye because of this

>>9282675
>Simulated FPS view in school
anon…

>>9282460
Very good post. It's like if you say a word over and over and over and over and over and over and eventually it starts sounding weird and loses meaning. It's the same when working on art, music, etc

>>9277770
IS THAT NEO METTATON?

>>9278427
So Samus was a boy after all...

>>9277761
super mario world was such a dissapoitment after super mario bros 3

>>9276848

>>9283102

>>9276372
he absolutely reads as left ESPECIALLY from 90s era CRT playing distances. the fucking gundam horn thing is the same color as skin and the jewel an open mouth FFS and all the attempts at shading further reinforce it.

it's not even hard to make it look like how they intended, they dumb ass artist was just hyper-fixated on his weird headdress / cowl thing.

>>9282007
I can't see it no matter how hard I try.

>>9282154
>>9282159
Not to worry anon, your license doesn't expire for another 12 years.

>>9282526
I always thought it was his two hands folded together in front of his chest and never realized the black and white parts were studded bracelets or whatever.

>>9283173
It doesn't help that the in-game sprite looks nothing like the official artwork. I bet there was some rush with the sprites in the game and they didn't have time to revisit them once it was ready to launch.

>>9283204
I would fix it even more

>>9278749

Ichor sticker's mouth with teeth looked like its eyes to me

>>9283252
>/vr/

>>9276334
deadass fr fr

>>9283204
why did they make him green?? the encounter space where you fight doesn't even clash with red. red and gold looks cooler for an evil wizard especially in a zelda game.

>>9283173
everyone who wasnt retarded thought the hat was his face, because the proportions are completely botched in order for that to actually be a hat. same with the bullshit over his shoulders. in real life it would be like wearing a 3 foot tall hat with pillows hanging over the sides.

>>9282728
Lol

I thought Geno had the one eye covered by hair going on.

>>9277557
>Hello. Smithers. You. Are. Quite. Good. At. Turning. Me. On.

>>9282675
Based autist. I often close one eye and exaggerate my head bob when I'm at work on the industrial plant and pretend I'm Gordon Freeman

>>9282053
Anon, I...

Man, I love retro-games.

>>9283401
I always thought the middle orange piece was his nose.

>>9280097
...t-that's not what they are?

>>9280362
duracell batteries

>>9283549
The "nose" of the teddy bear is actually a cyclops eye.

>>9282591
that would've been pretty cool actually

nose or open mouth?

>>9283643
bait? its neither. the lower part of his face is covered by the thing hes on

>>9283643
It's a flying saucer painted like a peppermint candy.

>>9282617
Everyone in our family called them ducks since SMB1 on NES. Not even we understood why, we all recognized that they were turtles with turtle shells and would openly comment on that fact, yet we couldn't stop calling them ducks.

>>9283643
i always saw it as a nose like bonkers

>>9283658
>Bonkers
YEEEEEAAAAHHHHH TOTALLY NUTS

>>9277819
Wait which build was that?
https://www.suppermariobroth.com/post/696027173389287424/evolution-of-the-sprites-of-various-forms-of-mario

>>9281464
Lion
his japanese name is Slash Beastleo (pronounced "Beast Lay O" according to the stage intro voice)

>>9276334
I assumed he didnt have pupils at all to look even scarier.

I thought that the Rollers from Sonic 1 were terrifying incomplete Mecha Sonics.

>>9281980
Up until now I thought this was a weird bird creature with maraca things in each hand. My mind is blown.

When Marle is pissed off she looks like she has a beard.

>>9283204
what the hell is even on his back anyway? is a giant spider latching on to him

>>9284562
I think it's just supposed to be the billowy headdress draping down over his robes, but yeah the sprite is a visual mess.

>>9282645
OH MY GOD

>>9278257
kek

>>9283643
I always assumed it's riding this thing

>>9278257
Your girlfriend isn't seeing anything because you don't have one.

>>9276947
I see a dead warthog

I never bothered much with looking closely at the enemies because I was busy fighting so I don't lose any extra men, therefore lowering my high score!

>>9278260
Clearly Luigi

>>9282617
>>9283657
As a kid I along with a few others called the Hammer Bros. monkies. Probably because of their movements.

>>9282150
Excuse me? I'm willing to derail this thread for more details about this.

Q. Bee in Darkstalkers is a deliberate example of this. Her "face" is fake. It's an evolutionary decoration meant to attract prey like the lure on an anglerfish. Her actual eyes are the bulbous things on her head. Her idle sprite looks like it's staring at the floor but she's in fact staring straight at her opponent.

>>9278793
I wouldn't be surprised if the ambiguity on that one is purposeful.

>>9285239
The deliberately ambiguous ones are awesome. People still argue over whether Mack is a sword with eyes, if it's just the pumpkin's hands gripping the handles, or both.

>>9280349
It's the middle, raised section of the ship. (LIke the bridge on a "real" Star Destroyer )

>>9276372
>>9283173
>>9283348
Personally, I feel like my brain just gave up trying to find the face and just assumed it was some kind of mask. I didn't see it as intended but I didn't see the left either.

>>9283208
At some point I started seeing a pussy on the mushroom.

>>9285236
Good post

>>9285236
Interesting how the fanart is almost always opposite, making the insect eyes appear as decorative afterthought.

>>9282645
I’ve always seen these as the developers intended from the front (“intentionally fake” skull-face abdomen and camouflaged real-spider head), but as soon as I see the backside where the head and abdomen are connected with a different texture pattern than the rest of the underside my brain immediately goes “ah yes, the teeth and jaws of the skull-face.”
The whole thing is weird, especially since usually your brain doesn’t perceive a decoy face AS a decoy, it just registers face or not-face; but then mine immediately falls for a different and probably unintended trick on the other side.

>>9282032
best

>>9278778
This is the first time I see those rats correctly, and I'm probably going to go right back to seeing the ears as eyes.
>>9278787
I never got confused on this one. They always looked like some kind of curled up bug to me.

>>9277391
You're dumb bro the left is not what it is

>>9285437
Fan artists are very picky when it comes to HOW monstrous they want their monster girls. Like how very few of them acknowledge that the white stripes on Felicia's body is just more fur and not body paint.

>>9278504
Short hair Terra is real nice. Color it green and she'd be perfect.

Also, obligatory her name is Tina in Japan since western names are exotic and making her like a gaijin is how they intended on showing her as being different from the normal characters.

>>9282053
This is only an issue with raw pixels

>>9283204
>>9283217
I still see the first but now he has actual eyes

>>9284271
Holy shit. I always thought it was wearing a Charlie Brown shirt.

>>9278793
>>9285239
Obviously based on irl mimicry since his job is mimic

Took me a long time to realize that was Tawna's hair and not a papyrus scroll.

>>9285910
Except everyone has a western name in Final Fantasy 6.

>>9286113
kek

>>9285247
Hory sheeeeet, I'm only just now noticing the fucking eyes!

>>9276334
No wonder they completely remade Bowser sprite in Super Mario Maker

>>9286283
That sprite doesn't fit the SMW art style, though.

>>9286286
true, it's they basically traced NSMB Bowser

>>9286289
>it's
please ignore

>>9286283
they did that because he was in the clown car

>>9286296
yeah but gigaleak revealed they had a fullbody bowser sprite

>>9286297
o shigt

>>9286113

>What do you mean I don't summon a footballer?!

Never really saw the sheep though but a beak/mouth shaped cave entry, like the Cave of Wonders

>>9285247
The fact that he jumps like a pogo stick it's clear it is intended to be the latter, but the sword does have eyes

>>9285910
>obligatory her name is
nobody whose posts I want to read gives a shit how her name should be translated.

>>9286191
Final Fantasy is all over the place with this. You'll have normal names like Cecil next to nonsense like Fusoya. It's why translating the names can be such a pain in the ass since Sabin's Japanese name マッシュ could be either "Mash" or "Matthew" and both would make perfect sense in context.

>>9278335
Thank you for posting this. Always saw that too

>>9278304
Why does it have googly eyes?

>>9286297
goddammit he's so cool

>>9286470
aannnd this is the reason i never thought much of the shape of the ship. i was distracted by the constantly reminding myself they arent creepy eyes they are the jet boosters exhausts whatever

>>9279906
Oh hey, it's lavos!

>>9278196
Who equipped their Valkyrie with a .38?

>>9286947
the pilot
She also named her Valk "Alphonse" for some reason.

>>9285247
The one I see argued about the most is if Johnny is a shark or some guy roleplaying in a sharkskin suit, and if it's the latter, what does that make his Bandana minions?
>>9286354
For some reason I never saw him or his Shy Guys as guys on pogo-stick swords/knives, but rather that was their lower bodies and they were legless and crossing their arms with pauldrons where their arms are.

>>9286286
Neither do half of the original SMW sprites, so what's your point?

>>9286425
>Sabin's Japanese name マッシュ could be either "Mash" or "Matthew" and both would make perfect sense in context.
I imagine that's the joke. Japanese love their puns.

>>9286425
>It's why translating the names can be such a pain in the ass
Yeah, and for the record it's also why people who argue over "correct" name translation of videogame characters are annoying as fuck. It's just a name. Terra is not a real person, you can't ask her if she'd be prefer you called her Tina. Devs rarely give a fuck what some foreigner calls the character so long as they paid for the game.

It's far more important to be consistent about whatever translated name you choose. The only way to truly fuck up and be wrong is to change the name between versions or editions.

>>9277534
this just ruined my day and potentially the rest of my life. thanks.

>>9276420
I'm pretty sure the etymology was

Dead Serious - Dead S - Dead Ass

>>9283204
The original is mirrored left/right to save space. The edit doesn't follow this rule

>>9282521
your using colors outside the palette...

>>9288037
>>9288045
Most people making edits and fake pixel art don't have the slightest idea the kind of limitations the devs had to work with.
There is also probably a reason why the in game sprite doesn't follow the colour scheme of the concept art.

>>9280608
Why did Ayla's club get cut?

>>9288067
Was it ever intended to be in the game? Seems like just an artwork thing.

>>9276372
Almost thirty fucking years and no matter how much I tell myself what it's supposed to look like I still see the Porky face.

another one from ff6 - these mammoth enemies, i thought their ears were supposed to be like their angry eyebrows, their actual eye i dont think i could see on my tv

>>9288119
I can almost imagine Amano coming into Square's office, dropping a staple of squiggly concept art and telling the staff "Well, that's your problem now - toodles!"

>>9280608
>round eye monsters

They were always there, they just don't look as goofy.

>>9288151
im not saying googly eyes werent there already i just still would have loved to see them in game anyway. also i think blaarg was their replacement. they were clearly made with the intention of coming out of a pool of liquid. they could have been the flip world replacement.

>>9288067
yeah im sure her club wasnt a thing but she DID used to run upright like 1000 ad people

I was seeing some X6 sprites when I saw something on Ground Scaravich...

>>9276334
i thought he had dark sunken eyes in the middle of his face

>>9277698
The king was killed, but part of Link's wish was to restore all the badness that Ganon and Agahnim had caused. So the kid that got turned into a tree was revived, the sick kid had his illness disappear, the king was revived, etc

>>9276334
I swear most of these posts are a result of kids growing up playing games on emulators and flat panels.

>>9282521
lmao holy shit you think that's better??

>>9288220
I think posts like your are the result of spoiled eurofags who never had to deal with the horror of playing on an RF adapter.

>>9278260
Why do you faggots never listen? YOU. CAN. SEE. THE. QUEEN. BOSS, BRIDGE. AREA. ON. THE.FUCKING. SPRITE. It's a fucking Star Destroyer with the engines on the bottom and the front at the top. IT'S NOT HARD. IT'S NOT FUCKING HARD,

>>9288349
Not everyone notices that's separate.

>>9288161
They even implemented Luca's hammer, but not Ayla's club. :(

>>9278716
He wasn't originally intended to be the Fighter but a generic Warrior of Light. A stand in for the whole party.

>>9288803
>>9278716
Which is even funnier when you realize that Warrior of Light is literally suppose to be a knock-off of Decendant of Loto on the cover of the first Dragon Quest.

>inb4 DQ didn't invent blue horned armour

The most famous JRPG at the time had a blue knight with a horned helmet. The parallel is obvious. It would be like pretending that a platformer with someone wearing overalls and a mustache in 1986 isn't riffing on Super Mario.

>>9288468
It's a shame that they didn't make Marle and Lucca's strength stat relevant to when they hit enemies at close range. It would have made things a bit more interesting than just relying on HIT for everything.

>>9287045
SDF Macross + Patlabor crossover when

>>9288803
but warrior is that fighter is branded as in future releases and what im guessing he was always meant to be titled. what makes it more confusing is warrior turns into knight with the proper amount of armor the "warrior of light" has so technically this blue dude should be the knight of light.

>>9278716
>>9288803
>>9288840
Guys, it's literally just the guy on the cover of the original Famicom game.

>>9288932
I somehow never put it together that this is supposed to be the same guy. I always tried to figure out what in the actual fuck each cover was trying to represent from the individual games themselves.

God do I hate that artist.

>>9288932
Pretty sure the box art was the first thing done, long before any actual game content was decided on. FFIV's box art just does whatever the fuck, almost as if it's based on FF3's jobs more than anything else.

>>9280102
Speaking of Lufia 2, the German version even ended up with a fuck-up in its translation due to a misinterpreted sprite. The dark-affinity capsule monster is some humanoid tree creature but the translators looked at the in-game battle sprite and thought it was supposed to be a vulture. (yeah, German Nintendo translations at the time weren't exactly the most accurate and professionally done ones)

>>9288932
I'm aware. And he's purposely drawn to look like the kid on the cover of the Dragon Quest cart.

>>9288936
The guy on the cover of II is suppose to be Firion, and the guy in the cover of III is just suppose to be one of your 4 player characters. I'm interested in how they didn't finally focus on a specific logo for the series until IV.

>>9288936
If you think that's bad, the only commercial for FFII was just them showing Amano's artwork and not a shred of actual gameplay footage.

https://youtu.be/pKjkBkMrYl4

>>9288995
>The guy on the cover of II is suppose to be Firion
That makes sense. His non-Famicom design is incredibly different, that explains why I wasn't able to figure that one out.

>the guy in the cover of III is just suppose to be one of your 4 player characters
Now what in the fuck.

>>9289003
That's one of the funniest ads I've ever seen. It seems like it was thrown together very early with nothing to go off, I definitely feel bad for the marketing agency that had to try to hype up a game without even a final logo to use.

>>9288995
II and III had consistent logos but they were completely illegible so they rightfully ditched it.

>>9288045
alright fair enough.

>>9288226
no, I know that it is.

>>9289020
You gotta have a degree in black metal to be able to read that shit

>>9276334
this is the actual misleading take on the sprite.

>>9289094
top kek

>>9276947
Honestly, it doesn't even really matter which way you see it, it's still a dead pigman either way.

>>9288985
this one

>>9289003
Great look ay Square office back then.

>>9289804
I love that it's video evidence these old games weren't made or tested with PVMs in mind.

>>9289783
I saw some kind of flightless bird monster first too, although I thought it seemed to have weirdly botanical coloring for a bird.

I still don't know what the fuck Zeromus sprite is trying to convey.

>>9288280
Well you're wrong because I played RF all the way up until the N64

>>9289085
It's so much worse anon, what makes you think the area above Bowser's nose is shaped that way? Just so you can look at it without being confused? The original is fine and if you see him as crosseyed in any way your brain just isn't working properly. Yours looks dopey as hell.

>>9288151
Speaking of those fuckers, I always thought the sprite of their eyes peeking out from the lava looked kinda like a little head with a mouth. I might've thought it looked like the white plant enemies from SMB3 that jump up to bite you.

>>9288164
kek

>>9290525
A big scary space monster?

>>9290543
Not him. but making it so you can see both pupils does look a lot better. The original sprite's snout seems oddly shaped and uneven in comparison.

>>9290543
making things see-through for the sake of showing eyes is a long-running eastern art tradition, it gets expressions across instantaneously much easier. it doesn't make perfect sense with the perspective but it's far easier to read in a single moment, versus needing to process it for a second and fill in the missing blank.

>>9290651
oh fuck i see it

>>9290651
>>9291459

>>9291469
probably going to see it that way for the rest of my life now

>>9276334
I didn't even notice that he even had pupils until now. I just thought that was a weird eye edge.

>>9281021
You need to be 18 to post here, edgelord

>>9292257
poltards aren't underage, they're just tards

>>9284386
Same. Never noticed pupils until this thread.

I still see the nostrils as eyes

>>9288280
RF adapter was the only way to play NES in Europe.

>>9293213
Then what's all the SCART stuff Europeans are always bragging about? Was it just on later consoles or what?

A feather. Don't ask me why.

>>9278304
Face the wrath of The Mighty Monarch!

>>9293218
SNES was the first Nintendo console with it.

>>9293213
No it wasn't

>>9278793
on a similar note, it took me over thirty years to notice the eyes on this one

>>9286289
This is one of the only times they made sure Bowser can move his head without the spikes on his collar clipping through the white border of his shell, if not the only time. Bothers the hell out of me. Of course, even in this, a spike clips through his fucking arm during his introductory roar. Get it together, Nintendo.

>>9282645
Wow, never realized that. Its similar to what >>9285236 is talking about it seems. Dark souls has a monster like that, pic related eye is actually the little dot above the mouth.

>>9294416
Forgot pic. But also, doesnt pokemon have more than a few critters that have fake faces?

>>9293397
I thought it was a croquet mallet hitting the bomb.

>>9285437
They can be forgiven since even some of Capcom's official art forgets it. Some of the early design work really illustrates the low key horror of the concept.

>>9294476
You're low key a faggot stop talking like a nigger

>>9293870
i thought it was a little pigman in the SMS version, all the arcade screens i played the arcade version on must have been blurry as fuck because I didn't see the eyes until I emulated it.

Still have no clue what this boss was supposed to be.
Every time I think I figured it out I start seeing something different.

>>9283434
lol
I'm gonna start doing this from now on

>>9277242
I thought one of the other characters had a beard, but it was probably just something like this.

>>9283643
no fucking way. i thought it was a tiger head because egypt

>>9296885
How in the fuck?

>>9283643
holy shit what an awful sprite

>>9296885
>i thought it was a tiger head because egypt
Tigers are from India, dude...

>>9283204
>>9283313
I've commented on this before, but I'm under the impression an artist here was colour blind.

>>9297339
It's more likely the sprites were based on earlier models and they redid the promo art later on. That's why the original SNES sprites for Tales of Phantasia look nothing like the character art. The designs were revised later on and it was too late to change all the sprites so they just ran with it, eventually updating everything in the remakes.

>>9297378
It's awfully convenient that the change corresponds exactly to red-green colourblindness, and the last time I pointed it out, a colour blind anon responded in confusion that he cannot see a discrepancy between the artwork and the sprite.

>>9297392
It's possible. But the sprite and artwork are different in ways beyond just the color. It's also not the only example of weird spritework in that game. I'm sure back then things like that could happen since it was often one person doing the bulk of a task so you wouldn't get a lot of eyes on something until it was done. "Oh...that's the wrong color...shit but we're on a schedule so just put it in anyway."

>>9297397
Oh, and it also could have been a necessity because of system limitations. I wouldn't be surprised if they started with a bunch of sprites and realized that they exceeded the SNES's palette limits in certain circumstances so they'd have to change things on the fly. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how Link ended up with pink hair.

just a guy casting a spell
totally nothing else...

>>9298294
I definitely saw that same thing myself. Haha

>>9276848
It always looked like hit nuts are hanging out. Bare testicles in open air.

>>9298301
Red Mage IS a faggot, so it tracks.

>>9298294
Smithy being a pink dog in an armored suit would be pretty on brand for Mario.