/vr/ - Retro Games

yes? s-video is much better.
not sure you can run retro consoles through it though

S-video is better, yes.

the jump from composite to s-video is the biggest jump in quality between any two "adjacent" video standards

>>9275447
SNES works with S-video, as does everything in the subsequent console generations. Just no Genesis, TG16 or anything earlier.

Why is it after two separate s video cords I still can't get video out of the s video cord?

>>9275461
There are plenty of guides on modding a genesis for s-video. I've done it three times.
Although I wouldn't recommend it today. They're not dirt cheap anymore and you could probably get a scart cable and convert it to s-video somehow.

>>9275464
is there an issue with the port on your machine? How long are the cables you've been trying?

Who knows where these cables come from these days, could be microfractures or something. But, two cables says a problem with your machine may be the issue

>>9275451
svideo to component is bigger.

Use RF for maximum authenticity.

>>9275906
its not

>>9276029
feels like a shame with a laserdisc player though (laseractive is video games)

>>9276065
Meh, if the most important thing to me was image quality, I'd buy an OLED TV.

>>9275443
It's subjective. To me it's better, but composite will be better to someone else. S-Video will look clearer and get rid of dot crawl (looks like outlines of light flickering pixels around objects)

>>9275906
I can't really tell much of a difference between the two in all honesty.

>>9276075
so far my only issue has been like, a sort of doubling issue. there was a palm tree, and there was a kind of chromatic abberation that doubled the stalk of the palm. this makes me think there are other issues with it, I ordered S-video and I'm unrealistically excited to see what happens with my laserdiscs and ps2

>>9276083
yeah exactly

>>9275443
after RF adaptors, that's the way i used to do it. that's a legit retro-tier experience

>>9276084
using s-video with my PS2 for the first time in the 2010s legitimately kinda blew my mind. I went straight from composite to HDMI back then and never realized how much nicer s-video looked compared to composite.

>>9276090
n64's not a great comparison, the signal is horrendous from it and using better signal cables barely helps it.

>>9276161
this image is fake, unless someone figured out how to swap out video cables in less than .01 seconds

>>9276182
oh shit...

>>9276182
14 seconds

>>9276208
>>9276182
lol i see, the DK racing image.

in all honesty i just wan to create the best image i can with the hardware i have. s-video seems AWESOME

>>9276212
It is. S-video is the shit.

>>9275443
It's a lot cleaner if that's what you're asking

>>9276182
Splitters exist

>>9276326
yeah but wouldn't the splitter compromise the integrity of the experiment

>>9276459
100%

>>9276459
only if you view the both simultaneously

>>9276520
its in the same millisecond, how wouldn't it be done simultaneously

>>9276525
could've been paused

>>9276546
also the 64 doesn't look like an S-video image

>>9276182
They could have recorded the game twice, once for each cable.
Record the attract mode demo or start a race and not press any buttons. And then find the exact same frames to compare.

>>9275906
Not at all, composite > svideo is the single biggest cable upgrade there is. After that all of the colors are clearer/more saturated but svideo is the absolute sharpest the image gets.

>>9276551
actually ignore that
>>9276525
you are right, these are emulated images, the composite doesn't have any dot crawl

>>9276551
like another anon said, the difference honestly isn't too noticeable between s-video and composite on n64. the only real difference I can see is that the HUD and textures are sharper in the image on the left.

>>9276558
not true
you will see the difference in sharpness, especially when you get to 480i images

>>9276567
that's not true at all
I don't think people are using proper svideo if they can't tell the difference
https://youtu.be/sttxT6ruc3Y?t=55

>>9276583
I'm just speaking anecdotally. There isn't as much of a pronounced difference between composite and S-video from an N64 on my CRT, at least not one that I can see while playing a game.

>>9276567
you're wrong dude, quit talking out your ass

>>9276625
ok.

>>9276620
I don't think it's a proper S-video cable then
the dot crawl alone should make the image noticeably clearer

>>9276628
it's the same cable I use with my gamecube and SNES and they both look noticeably clearer through it. all I'm saying is that I personally can't see as much of a difference between composite and s-video on my n64. there is a difference, I just don't really notice it as much when compared to my other consoles over s-video.

>Is there any way to improve this?
Emulation on a decent modern fucking system and display.

>>9276643
vegan

>>9276647
I think they're more of a freegan

>>9276643
Retard.

>>9276029
>authenticity

VGA (Dreamcast) > Component/RGB > S-Video > Composite > RF

>>9276090
Colors are clearly more vibrant with RGB. That said, it is interesting how the composite signal, together with the hardware AA and blur, appears to eliminate all semblance of jaggies, which was probably the intention. Obviously, even RGB has the AA and blur, so the image doesn't get that much sharper, but you do see jaggies a bit more if you look closely.

>>9277053
Forgive me if I sound completely ignorant here, but my impression of RGB versus S-video and composite has always been that I could just approximate the more vibrant colors of RGB just by adjusting my CRT's settings. Am I completely off base there?

>>9277058
Like by increasing the saturation, you mean? You could try it, but it'll result in colors getting clipped, so you'll have more vibrant colors but less detail overall. I personally wouldn't mess too much with it for that reason.

>>9277062
I figured by messing with the contrast and saturation, yeah. That's actually exactly what I did on mine and I'm happy with it.

>>9277064
Some degree of tweaking can, of course, improve the image, but again, you just gotta be careful not to go overboard or you risk losing detail. This is where something like the 240p Suite comes in handy. In any case, the whole advantage of RGB is that, ideally, you get all the colors and all the detail the console is capable of without compromise.

>>9277058
well adjusting the colour contrast reminds me of how in Super Mario you get the difference between blue sky and purple sky, at least with my CRT

>>9275443
There's only one way to improve a trinitron

>>9277058
rgb is a bit sharper though, and its color standard so the colors look the best

>>9277137
i'm not sitting 3 feet away from a pvm to play my couch video games. no amount of shilling will change this

you can all have your 250 dollar impending burn-in cubes

>>9275461
It's already autistic to play a game on a 20-year old TV that weights like 60lb for the "authenticity". I still do it. It's even more autistic though to buy over-priced professional level gear that no consumers had. All just to play muh vidya on.

>>9278498
>i'm not not retrded
I knew that from the get go zoom zoom

>>9275443
What does red do

>>9279558
for real?
right audio, white is left audio

>>9279584
I never knew