/vr/ - Retro Games

Of course not. Melee was.

>>9273910
I mean they are both good. Just about equal. Melee is a better party 4 player game, no doubt, but SC2 2-player can't be beat. Fucking amazing game. Cheers.

>>9273910
i liked this game so much i rented it on xbox so i could play spawn

>>9273910
PS2 version is better. Cube controller is a joke for fighting games.
>b-but you can be the gay elf
lol.

It's time to admit that Cassandra was best girl

>>9273910
Not /vr/

>>9273948
>sophitia's slutty sister
might as well simp for tira if you're into damaged goods

>>9273910
Soul Calibur and Melee are on the same level of cringe.

>>9274057
weak bait

>>9273948
*Ivy

>>9273946
This. Fucking *CLAK CLAK CLAK* piece of shit.

>>9273910
Melee was never a fighting game.

>>9274281
Came to this thread expecting some retard to post this, surprised it took 11 posts.

best version is the 360 on the xbone

>>9274352
https://youtu.be/CUwCmh2J2N4

>>9274352
And ten people were wrong.

>>9273948
My sister's name is Cassandra and I have always hated her so playing this game was always kinda weird.

>>9273946
LMAO! The GC controller was perfect for SC, how do you use the square + O (A+K) attack without using 2 fingers? GC controllers you can use easilly A+Y (A+B), Y+X (B+K), A+X (A+K) without using an extra finger or custom a particular button.

+The stick is in an octogonal form, perfect for the diagonal directions 1 3 7 9

>>9273946
Based.

>>9274451
>Stick
LOL

smash isnt a fighting game

>>9273910
gc controller for fighting games? LOL
>>9273946
xbox version is the best and always has been.

>>9274573
PS2 version is definitive.

>>9274575
xbox controller has better ergonomics.
spawn is a much more appropriate character for the game compared to heihachi

>>9274578
nta but
>pad for fighting games
Kill yourself

>>9274585
>3d movement with dpad
no.

>>9274587
Pad = handheld controller. Not dpad, newfag. Buy an arcade stick poor fuck

>>9273910
Original was better
Change my mind
You can't

>>9274587
The movement in Soul Calibur II isn't analog; it's at a set speed in eight directions. It plays better on a dpad in my opinion. Still playable on an analog stick but less precise.
>>9274585
>>9274610
You suck so much more than that other guy, and you don't even play fighting games.

>>9274415
Soul Calibur is not a real fighting game either, anyway.

Bloody Roar: Primal Fury was better than both of those piles of shit, especially "baby's first fighting game button mash to win even against so-called pros" fucking Melee and all the other Smash Bros. games.

>>9274810
>, especially "baby's first fighting game button mash to win even against so-called pros" fucking Melee and all the other Smash Bros. games.
If it's that easy, why don't you go to tournaments and win some money, champ? show those babbies!

>>9273910
I mained Ivy in this and I still cannot tell if she was good or not. She had the coolest fucking sword and moves.

>>9273910
Both games are good but Melee had an astronomically longer life because it was 4-player, easy to pick up, and a party game. Whereas SC got boring after running through it once or twice.

>>9274810
???
Smash is probably one of the least button mashing friendly fighters though. You'd just end up killing yourself off stage

>>9273910
I didn't think about Melee as a fighting game at that time. I didn't know about the hardcore shit people were getting up to until years later.
If you were going to compare them head to head, I played Melee more with friends and single player combined, but I did more 1v1 like a normal fighting game in SC2 and it had a decent single player mode as well. So I agree.

>>9273910
How was Link able to be put in a Soul Cailber game without the SC devs getting the hammer by Nintendo?

>>9274953
they snuck him into the game by boat. to this day, link is still legally unable to reenter japan. quite sad really

No shit it's the best one, the only two fighting games on GC I could think of were SC2 and CvS2. Dreamcast and PS2 were superior fightan consoles.

>>9273948
You mean Sophitia right?

>>9273910
Melee is not a fighting game

>>9274962
Yes it is

>>9274983
No it's not. It's a party game that has characters fighting.

>>9274985
It's a nonstandard fighting game. Not every fighting game has to completely crib Street Fighter mechanics, that's a clone game not a genre.

>>9275048
Compare it to other fighting games and it stands out like a sore thumb. If it was intended to be a fighting game they wouldn't have included bullshit like PokeFloats

>>9275062
Well fortunately you dont make the rules and my current conventions it's a platform fighter, and whether you like it or not is played at a competitive level at fighting game events

It's a fighting game

>>9275062
So does Bushido Blade. It being different doesn't make it not a fighting game.

>>9275048
It was a new kind of game that was closer to a party game, with fighting game elements, that if you change the settings could be played like a fighting game. It was accidental, or incidental. Now, the series is a fighting game.
I dunno it doesn't seem complicated to me. Although I sort of made it sound complicated with that explanation.

>>9275207
Eh, a game having genre overlap isn't that complicated. Games can be horror games and also nearly any other genre for example.

>>9274959
He means Sophitia.

>>9275207
No I think you described it fine. Party game with fighting elements that has ingame ruleset modifiers that the community used to make it a proper fighting game.

The platform fighter has expanded beyond smash regardless with mixed results. At least Multiversus decided to focus on the 2v2 aspect to make it stand out more
.>>9275062
>Compare it to other fighting games and it stands out like a sore thumb
So trying something different is bad? May as well throw out games like Tekken and MVC2+3 because they tried something different.

>this game where player-controlled characters fight each other with weapons, punches, kicks and grabs isn’t a fighting game!

>>9275652
Is a multiplayer FPS a fighting game because player-controlled characters fight eachother, faggot?
However, I do agree that Melee should be considered a fighting game.

>>9276054
That's fucking retarded, you idiot.

>>9276054
You are so hungry to be a contrarian that you called me a faggot while agreeing with me. I think that might technically make you a faggot as well if I'm not mistaken.

>>9276054
war is just a pussy's way of fighting
maybe if leaders would bother to fight each other to the death hand to hand they wouldn't have to worry about assassinations

>>9273910
>Shit in both games
PFFFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>9273910
Wrong box art faggot

>>9274226
Spotted the Brawltard

>>9276391
1v1 me in Melee fgt and see what happens

>>9276391
I would ream your ass with Link in SC2 dude.

banjo-kazooie is not a platformer

>>9276405

>>9274820
>go to tournaments
I'm not going to hang out with a bunch of manbabies playing a game created for children.

>>9276139
America's future lookin real bright all of a sudden

>splitscreen party game FPSes full of goofy shit aren't FPSes because they're also party games
>kart racers aren't racers because they're also party games
Where do genre purists draw their lines? Does "party" as a genre override all other genres, is it the genre blob?

>>9273946
>gay elf
kek'd
>PS2
enjoy your laggy port

I lived in a foster home with 8 kids total we put somewhere between 200-400 hours in this game. I love it a lot. the extra weapons with stat changes and team battles were icing on the cake. maxi and cervantes were awesome. his gun sword was the cooler than ff8's gundblade

>>9274578
>The Duke
>good ergonomics
This is poor bait, no wonder you only got one reply that didn't even address the most obvious retardation in the post.

>>9278004
>no wonder you only got one reply
Replies are not upvotes. There is no competition for getting the most replies. Return when you're over 18.

>>9273946
The xbox version has the superior controller and graphics. The ps2 version was always inferior to the gamecube version.

>>9278004
Where did he say anything about the Duke?

>>9273910
Seethe and cope tranny

>>9273946
updated my old broken phonepost mobile app that wasnt loading captcha just so i can tell you to kill yourself

>>9278051
Ps2 version is arcade perfect, cube is a downgrade. Xbox at least has 720p meme.

>>9277915
:)

>>9273910
Melee is of a different genre.

>>9275641
>with mixed results

Multiversus is far superior to smash in every way lemme just point out. No gay bubble shit, more dodges, easier to pick up,, not infested by frame studying neckbeards. But offtopic i know.

>>9273910
I only ever played the demo. My supervisor said she used to play the PS2 version with her friends. I kind of agree with those saying Melee is a different genre. Smash was always more of a platformer/fighting game hybrid than either one of the two.

>>9278363
The mixed results was talking about the slew of other platform fighters like rivals of aether, slap city, or NASB which have either a niche community, or no community at all. Multiverses is the only one thats stood out from the crowd and seems worth trying. The rest just feel like melee, but worse, so why play them when melee exists?

>>9273910
Melee and Smash were never fighting games nor should they ever be considered such. It took decades before they were finally officially classified as fighting games which is ridiculous that they are now considered such.

>>9279145
Do you consider Power Stone a fighting game?

>>9279145
Get over it. It's been played competitively longer than you've been alive zoomer.

>>9273910
melee is a unique game that takes advantage of the gamecube controllers weird quirks (giant ass triggers and A button, tiny eveything else, very precise analog stick), meanwhile this was the worst version of SC2 that sold the best because DUDE LINK LMAO and being the literal only other fighting game on the system besides bloody roar and cvs2 ports nobody bought and a couple anime arena games

>>9278081
xbox 360 is beyond arcade perfect

>>9277915
How old were you? Did the kids grow up to fuck each other? Just curious, I lived in a resocialization facility and was in the looney bin for a while and find these sort of experiences interesting.

>>9274226
based, fuck that controller

>melee
>fighting game

>>9273946
> Cube controller is a joke
That’s all you need to know

Why do Smashfags and FGCfags treat the game distancing from fighting game genre moniker a bad thing?
Have you played the recent game? They literally left out a ton of old modes and stuff that actually give smash a reason to not being labeled as a formuliac traditional fighter. Like holy shit, with 80+ characters, would you prefer a watered down event mode over break the targets or fighting on top of entei if you wanted a party game experience? Or maybe an Adventure Mode that's still arcadey and a crossover that isn't a drabby movie?

>>9281582
>Why do Smashfags and FGCfags treat the game distancing from fighting game genre moniker a bad thing?
Because they're no fun allowed fags who want everything to be a super serious grind to the top of a super serious and perfectly balanced competition.
>no items
>no fun stages
>no outrageous movesets
>everything must be a perfectly sterile 1v1 test of skill with absolutely no variation of any kind so they can spend 100 hours per week perfecting the muscle memory on their epic combo that will always work every single time because the stage conditions are ever-unchanging
Tourneyfags fucking ruined Smash Bros. Remember when games were FUN? Now everyone wants to pretend to be a pro and treat games like work.

>>9273910
smash bros is not a fighting game franchise any more than gta is a driving simulator

>>9281602
Tourneyspergs ruin everything at the end of the day.
I remember reading about Guilty Gear X2 #Reload back then:
>Gold & infinite Overdrive "black" character modes banned
>EX character movesets banned because "unbalanced"
>Justice & Kliff banned because "unbalanced"
I just want to play the game.

>>9280687
>forced eng dub

>>9281582
>>9281602
Man this is true. I miss Smash 64 and Melee when I was just enjoying the single player modes and chaotic free-for-alls with groups of friends. Becoming esports did kind of ruin it.

>>9283295
It was the best dub of the series