/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
AD MORTEM PHASE 2
Submissions due Oct 12th
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9194259
https://mega.nz/folder/NBFWlJZQ#ayc36MvN6fAvwup-8vMLdA

94 PROTONS OF /vr/
See picture below for details
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

=== NEWS ===
[9-3] Crispy Doom 5.12.0 is released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom/releases/tag/crispy-doom-5.12.0

[9-2] The AMC Squad Episode Four Trailer released
https://youtu.be/ei2_ROlJAiw

[9-1] Babel gets its biggest update
https://datanon.itch.io/babel

[9-1] DBP51: Deadly Ritual is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2960/deadly-ritual

[8-31] August progress for DNF2001 Restoration Project
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project/news/august-update32

[8-31] Realms Deep 2022 announced
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1565052582153920515

[8-31] Anon shares orthographic voxel caching demonstration
https://youtu.be/dw10zm8KkO0

[8-27] Nirvana interviews Ribbiks
https://youtu.be/zgW4Kqkfpbs

[8-27] Corruption Cards is updated to 4.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/corruption-cards/downloads/corruption-cards-40

[8-26] Frantik DM 2 - New 32 Map FFA Deathmatch MegaWAD
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131049

[8-25] XBAND Multiplayer from Doom SNES working!
https://youtu.be/Z89BinL0tAI

[8-23] Photos from planned FMV scenes for 3DO Doom released
https://twitter.com/burgerbecky/status/1561827633217912836

[8-18] Threewave Capture the Flag and Rubicon 2 added to Quake remaster
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2310/announcements/detail/3337750462906016220
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1560297992841732096

[8-18] Various id games on PC Game Pass
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1560305065683865600

=== PREVIOUS ===
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94 PROLETARIATS OF /int/ INFOGRAPHIC

Why did the Caco cross the road?

>>9246239
Weed eater

Bee
Eff
Gee

>Come at me, brigand!

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME, BITCHES! We're gonna be playing Onslaught pack, featuring 51 maps of quality fragging fun! Open up Doomseeker and get joining!
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Shelly "Bombshell" Harrison.
May Ion Fury : Aftershock provide us with a lot of mirth and fun times!
I think Ion Fury could stand to have a bit more distinctly themed levels, I feel like that was one of the real strengths of Duke Nukem 3d, Blood etc, they had a bunch of levels with strong themes like hospital, super market, red light district, duke burger etc.

Hoping there'll be more distinct full on levels like warehouse, nightclub etc .

Increased the resolution a bit so that more words could fit.

>>9246303

>>9246303

>>9246309
Pretty apt description for this thread

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2 ANCHOR POST

VR Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ

Stick to the loose files in the 'vr' folder for working on the project. You don't need the QuakeC source files unless you want to contribute code. When there is an update, sort files by date modified so that you aren't constantly re-downloading everything.

>>9246270
I'm still miffed they didn't name this enemy Circules.

>>9246303
hoo

>>9246316
What does the knife jerk say in fxkjsit3 (open wad in slade)? The one like "Ah, Square's in, eh?

>>9246303
god DAMN IT

>>9246218
>>9246221
>>9246227
94 Protons Of /vr/
Submissions close after September 12th.
Though if you're almost done, I'm not gonna be anal about exact time.

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6.1 (fixed some textures and added a few more)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of optional MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Special slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
>Optional Hunted style map: Claimed
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 17 Maps!

To Do:
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

WANTED: 3D Modeler, one who can do weapon stuff, one which can do monsters.

>>9246324
GIVE IT BACK

>>9246339

>>9246368

I really don't understand why level designers put shootable lines which execute a necessary function in order to progress. MAP18 of Doom 2 always was a mystery for me as a kid and I usually cheated my way out. It was just pure luck that I once started to shoot whole room with Chaingun and managing to open the door. At the time I didn't have a manual, so I had no idea that shootable lines are a thing.
The worse case scenario is when the shootable line has a texture that doesn't resemble a swich at all.

>>9246303
>onions unreal
it's over

>>9246180
fucking kek this got me good when I first played the game, I was so angry. Was there even any hint for this shit

people say hdoom is lame for making its female demons look like anime girls, so i'm surprised nobody used slade to replace the sprites with less humanoid designs or even a more "western" aesthetic
pic mildly related, this design has some "new" features to be a bit more distinct than just a cyberdemon with feminine features
but it's still a bit "moba-ish" visually, speciallt those horns
the horns look more fitting for a dragon with scales than a minotaur or bull based creature
might be because it's based off the tyrant from eternal but there's some things i'd change about this design and try my best to maintain some ideas

>>9246450
>so i'm surprised nobody used slade to replace the sprites with less humanoid designs or even a more "western" aesthetic
Because art is fucking hard and the Hdoom gals have a lot of sprites.

I can't get 100% kills in 32X E1M2 and E1M9.
What's going on?

How do you guys feel about vanilla Doom 2?

>>9246501
Good

>>9246450
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=64617

>>9246425
>Was there even any hint for this shit
from everything I could tell, no. if they were fucking blatantly buttons I could have figured it out eventually, but there was nothing. no texture hints, nothing! absolutely the worst level design decision i've experienced in an official piece of content for a vr shooter. (yes even worse than that room where there's three battlelord sentries all guarding the same keycard)

Happy 9/9 fraggots

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102424-how-does-one-make-high-quality-sprites/?tab=comments#comment-1920030

lole

>>9246530
Stupid fairy.

Any of you use crt shaders? I usually use them for retro emulation but it never for doom

>>9246530
I lol'd at the automap. I keep about that feature.

>>9246556
God dammit, I just realized that it sounds like I forgot that the automap is a thing. I meant the "flats on the automap" feature.

how do you resiz sprites inside slade?

>>9246256
Big
Fucking
Girl

>>9246720

>>9246720
Blaz probably wants her to step on him.

>>9246303
>full fury added, fits ok
>strife needs burger
>tiny load flying
>retarded enemies id fight

>>9246724
No. But Bassilissa finds Blaz endearing. There's only one woman for that manlet.

>>9246530
Based and bakapilled

>>9246730
Tell us about the pyro lady.

>>9246724
>>9246730
I bet Blaz is a man of exquisite taste who wants to mating press a big strong woman 4x his size and stature and call her a cutie pie, ha ha

>>9246741
That's all gonna be for not retro talk unfortunately cus I ain't introducing her til after I break off from modding.

>>9246742
He's actually a very old school romantic. It's just he's also a combination of oblivious and spaghetti overflowing when he realizes he's being flirted with.

>>9246747
Let's talk about characters actually related to the mod then. Like Samson.

>>9246752
>pic
First off, fug you. Secondly, alright. I haven't done any more work on the boy yet but I've decided of a rapid fire flechette/dart pistol, I'm gonna make it a rapider firing sandblaster. So he'll load in a brick of metal that just shaves off little bits and hoses shit down.
Though you boys won't have to deal with reloading, just pick up red gems and you'll be fine.

Still need to figure out a visual design for it though. I definitely want to try and take some elements from the blasters from Gunstar Heroes.

Man I am really, really enjoying Doom 2 Reloaded. These levels are stellar, perfect level of detail to look good but not be excessive, great enemy placement, good balance between slaughter-ish and classic gameplay, just good overall.

>>9246761
Sandblaster?

>>9246798
Picture a device that sprays a lot of sand at high velocity, usually meant to clean off metal surfaces of rust or paint.
Now take that and weaponize it, basically it's gonna be a REALLY fast firing machine pistol where individual projectiles do low damage, it's just there's like a million of them.

>>9246849
Good god. So if there's no dart, is there a replacement subweapon function, or is it pared down to throwing and drinking?

>>9246858
Oh no I'm picturing the pistol itself has two barrels. There's a small one for the rapid fire thing, and a bigger barrel that fires whatever Samson can load into it, for GMOTA it'll be those glass bolts filled with potion. The gun itself is essentially a magic bullshit mass driver/gauss pistol.
I'm gonna call it the Duster.

Do people actually like fighting Shamblers or do they just find them adorable

>>9246931
I like fighting them. Practice baiting their melee attack; it's fun.

What mod gives mobs the most advanced movelists? Project Brutality?

>>9246956
Also yes I realized it's "wads" after the post, I'm new to this yeah.

>>9246956
>advanced movelists
Completely vague term that could mean almost anything. Longest movelists? Probably PB if you could all the variations of attacks. Dangerous movelists? Hideous Destructor hands down. Something else? Explain.

>>9246968
I guess just anything that makes me react to their different attacks. You know like a wave move I have to jump over, a lunging attack I need to keep my distance from, a move that tracks to where I'm strafing towards so I have to stop strafing in that direction, etc. Just attacks that force me to remember them and plan about their existence.

>>9246972
That shit gets massively fucky the instant you're fighting more than one enemy at a time. Also Demonsteele, PB, Babel, BURL TUMD, etc. All have different flavors. Just try shit, what you're asking for probably doesn't exist in the ideal form you're thinking of because it doesn't mesh with most Doom maps.

>>9246974
Yeah I kind of like fighting smaller groups of smarter enemies vs larger groups of easier ones. I understand that Doom isn't really that kind of game, but I thought maybe there was a mod that would change that since people always say theres a mod for everything in Doom.

>>9246512
Red Cross pretty much exclusively targets vulnerable studios (small ones/indie ones) and this was id before they were bought out. They want to get to jerk themselves off to pushing studios around.

They won't ever go after Microsoft or Valve or Blizzard because they have the money and the legal team to either make them fuck off or drag it out.

>>9246982
I thought Valve cheekily danced on the fine line by making their red crosses extremely fucking fat

>>9246985
I thought that was only in TF2 or something.

>>9246947
I don't care for it. It's somewhat fun once you learn how to not run right back into the claw after ducking back, but they can be directly around the corner and still go for the lightning when you approach. Not to mention they have a habit of spawning a ways away or have buddies to split focus on. Just a lotta awkward movement and micromanaging to not get zapped before you even get to where you can tightly circle them.

>>9246975
Well man, it depends what you mean by smarter. Maps control the spawns, so smaller groups is map choice. Smarter can mean a lot of things: HD's enemies are pretty smart, but a lot of their difficulty is in how clunky the player is compared to them. Babel's enemies are smart-ish, but mainly made to work in groups and respond to the player's actions a bit better. BURL TUMD and PB's enemies are more lethal, but perhaps not more intelligent. The further into total conversion territory you go, the more the enemy AI will probably change.

>>9246787
Holy fucking shit I beat it. That last level is hellish with Babel, and MAP29 is an absolute death maze with all the cyberdemons and the progression that isn't clear kinda sucks. I cheated and aimed down to kill the IoS but honest to god I still died right after from a trillion boner rockets. Overall I'd say this wad has like 3-5 "bad" maps, and the rest are very good. Really my only issue in most maps was figuring out where the fuck to go, and that was only on a few of them.
This has also successfully convinced me that the baron needs a re-nerf because those wide strikes are too good. Probably gonna just change their widths and damages a bit.

Played Underdark Overbright, fucking kicked ass.

Any megawads that mesh well with DooMRLA? Also, the RPG modifier for RLA seems to have disappeared, do any bros have it?

>>9247027
>only *really bad* on a few of them
brain no worky

>>9246995
I guess its doesn't need to be "smarter" in a traditional sense, but rather something that forces me to react to them or they to react to me. Think like Skaarj from Unreal, they aren't technically "smart", but they play smart and to their own strengths (dodge attacks, run in closer range, play dead, etc). Like it would be cool if instead of enemies standing around letting me peak cheese their reaction times, they would peak ME at corners or if they notice I'm doing it they would spam fire the corner to stop me.

I looked at HD, but yeah its very clunky looking and not really what I'm after. Maybe I'm just looking for something that doesn't exist since its not possible in the engine though. Demonsteele looked fun though, maybe I'll try that out and PB even if they are perfectly what I'm after. Good to try things out for myself, might love them anyways. Thanks.

>>9246239
TO KILL THE BUNNIES ON THE OTHER SIDE

AS FAR AS MY TIMEZONE IS CONCERNED, IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, ART, MUSIC, LET'S SEE IT!

Do people still play Quake 3 defrag? How does one get into it if I've never played Quake 3 before? Anyone here play it?

the thing i hate about the doom threads is they're so botted out that any actual human replies are swamped by the automated bot post regurgitation algorithm

like is it possible to have a doom thread with only humans for just once?

Ice cream? I LOVE ice cream!!

>>9246392
Usually it's done to alert monsters.

>>9246985
I noticed the other day that Metro Exodus has green crosses on their medkits. I wonder if that is their loophole or if Russia just does it like that.

Whenever I play a wad that includes medkits with the crosses removed (and there are a few) I always use XWE to switch them back to the originals on the copy of the wad I actually play. I'm really petty.

>>9247115
C'mon anon, you're gonna tell me you -don't- like the semen transplant medikits in HFFM?

fun enemy idea: a cacodemon that spits out bfg balls, but they move at 2% speed, and their tracers only hurt you, and every time it attacks it knocks itself in a random direction
basically leaves landmines everywhere that can wreck your shit if you or another enemy walks into them, or if you take too long to clear out an area and don't run to cover before one of the balls collides with a surface
because it's a flying enemy it can also target the floor so good luck retard

Imagine being Doomguy stranded on the demon infested surface of Mars, loaded to the brink with bloodthirsty demons. You take aim at a horde of cacodemons with the BFG, but your auto aim locks on to a lost soul charging directly at you from a 45 degree angle, causing it to fly directly above him, the cacodemons, and right into the vast void of space.
Imagine 12 years later, long after the incident has passed, taking it easy and browsing /vr/ - retro games on your expensive triple monitor 5000$ shitposting-specialized rig. Suddenly, your entire setup is instantly vaporized by forty invisible tracers emitted from your body, with the walls of your room being remarkably intact.

>>9236976
When and where the voting took place?
I had this sudden brainfart to bring the Juggs back into action after realizing how versatile those folks can be a wildcard enemy class - one that could both utilize almost any player's weaponry in adittion to having some unique ones of its own, maybe even have a randomizer script included to shuffle its loadout at each map if possible?
>I keep finding only the slim Juggernaut pics online, but I actually mean the blockier variants, as it's the one with a rocket-pod modelled onto it

Look, a shooting star!

>>9247059
Reactor mapfag here, I just built a Runabout.

>>9247135
Imagine making love to your pregnant wife and she gets hit by all tracers.

>>9246239
who's steve jobs?

>>9247243
IF I SEE THAT FUCKING CAT ONE MORE TIME ...

I love Ion Fury but recently I've come to realize that it has a slight problem in the pacing of the game, mainly that stops introducing new enemies / weapons a bit too early. You get the minigun (the final new weapon) at roughly 1/3rd of the game which is cool but it feels like the arsenal lacks some "mainstays" of classic fps weaponry (like the "big gun" , gimmick gun / item etc) or items like Holoduke, Ripper Heart, Life Leech (which is a portable turret in alt form) . They could introduce a flamer maybe, hmm ?

Similarly, there should've been more new enemies being introduced with preferably some that have gimmicks, like the Duke Nukem teleporting aliens, Archviles / Pain Elemental type creatures, and / or in general some new threats or creatures you're excited to see the new death animations of.....

Ideally it'd be like you get to a new level set and you're looking at a new weapon and 2-3 new monsters. Still, it's a great game and I look forward to IF : Aftershock a lot, just thinking that it could be improved on (and I hope the new "arrange" mode is going to be just that) .

Mostly looking forward to the new levels though. Whole new levels to explore, that'll be great.

>>9247348
Shadow Warrior's Nuke would be a good addition.

>>9247059
func_group

>>9246501
I feel like it's overhated. Map design is very good for 90s. It doesn't look bad either (when compared to modern wads) when you play it on low res and software mode as it's supposed to look like.

>>9247031
Play Punishment Due and Epochs Of Enmity. You will love them.

am i being autistic or based for playing the game at 4:3 low res?

>>9246221
>We’re excited to announce that we’ve deployed official dedicated servers for Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory.
>Server MOTD: Official & Vanilla Servers hosted by id Software. Enjoy! These servers are unmoderated.
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/ru/article/85eGeGTxfwazJiETVtPi9/wolfenstein-enemy-territory-official-dedicated-server-update

It was nice to just break my stupid routine and mostly stay away from Internet for a week, but I missed lurking here. I hope there was some good progress in Violent Rumble 2 and other anons' projects.

>>9247203
I'm sure we'll have plenty of great adventures in the Delta Quadrant in that motherfucker. GGWP
>inb4 spoonhead bastards blow it up

>>9247415
both

>>9247415
Neither, you're cringe for asking.
Play how you like.

>>9247362
I think they're going to have gas grenades or something and some sort of an energy weapon for Aftershock.

>>9247374
>I feel like it's overhated
Yeah, kinda? I think the criticisms laid against it I agree with, but I also think it's wrong to dismiss it as a "shit game" and in general I despise only thinking in polarized views, where something is either great or irredeemably shit.

the pagoda sequence in next encounter magao caves is bullshit

>>9247535
>next encounter
Full PC conversion when?

>>9247415
Your status bar is too small. Fix it.

>>9247415
Also you are having those god damn ugly hardware skies. Software mode or truecolor mode for all our autistic needs.

>>9247548
As soon as we get a serious program that parses TFE, TSE, TNE data and converts it into modular assets.

I really, really like them.

>>9246965
Technically not every Doom mod is a wad anymore, you have pk3 files and the like.

>>9247059
Getting to the end of pic related. Need to improve my roofing skills a bit though.

>>9247180
>When and where the voting took place?
It was posted every thread for a week, anon.
>maybe even have a randomizer script included to shuffle its loadout at each map if possible?
That's the sort of thing I'd leave up to mappers to implement via random counters selecting different variants to trigger spawn.

>>9247370
Looking pretty cool.
Coffee Achiever is that you?

>>9247040
I've noticed two kinds of maps mesh wonderfully with DRLA:
You have your slower, atmospheric maps; these are handy because it gives you plenty of space to fidget around with your inventory, mod your weapons, all that.
There's also non-linear maps with lots of non-essential rooms; instead of going straight for the goal you can explore optional areas to find rare items.

>>9247070
no

>>9246501
I'm one of those weird people that like it more than the first game. And I LOVE the first game.

>>9247070
Beep boop, you're a bitch.

>>9246501
It’s fun. Messy but with lots of fun ideas for levels, even if the execution leaves something to be desired.
>>9247348
>mainly that stops introducing new enemies / weapons a bit too early.
As fine as I was with the weapon roster, the expansion promises more weapons. I was pretty pleased with how new enemies got introduced, though. I of course won’t object to more and would be interested if they get added to the base campaign levels.

>>9247659
DRLA doesn't feel right to me without randomized Oblige maps

>>9247712
That's the other perfect fit for the mod, yeah.

>>9247070
keep scrolling, meatbag

Your most sincere opinions about sigil?

>>9247807
A pretty nice and challenging WAD that also includes deathmatch maps for playing with your bros. The cyberdemon telefrags are a cool gimmick. Basically the closest thing we'll get to Doom 1.5.

>>9247807
Pretty great, even when I prefer the weird fleshy hell to the “firey redness” styled hell. Looking forward to 2.

>>9247415
What >>9247501 says

>>9247643
Absolutely agree, they are by far the most fun enemy.

>>9247807
I love it. I have soft spot for all vanillaish Doom wads.

>>9247807
Pretty overrated, had it not been by Romero it would have been considered average.

>>9247115
Green crosses are the loophole a lot of developers use, even mod devs.

Is there any way to get integer scaling with EDuke32 using Polymost? basically I want to run the games graphics at 640x360 and then have the game integer scale that by 4 up to 2560x1440. I have a 1080ti so my card can't do native integer scaling, the application has to do it. (even though it's the most fucking basic kind of scaling there is in theory)

>>9247807
I love how it attempts to actually be Doom, and not how Doom mappers view Doom in 2022. Gameplay is based on taking it slow and taking cover. However it is often way too cramped, the scale almost always feel too small. Too much focus on the small things and not a single moment of literal grandeur.

I also love how it's built on pistol start.

But it's also too gimmicky for the sake of trying to pull something new, and that doesn't always work out. The crusher puzzle is absolutely fucking horrible and just badly designed for instance, and half of the Cyberdemons are simply not fun.

tl;dr it's Doom, it's good, but it could have been great if it was bit on a slightly larger scale, if there were less gimmicky shit and less Cyberdemons.

>>9247850
What average wads would you rank to quality level of sigil?

>>9247907
Probably something along the lines of Nostalgia.

>zdoom's discord

Why has everything gotten so gay? Gaming subreddit's are like this as well. What the fuck does bum sex and cutting your dick off got to with gaming?

>>9247989
If I wasn't lurking it in, I genuinely wouldn't believe that's the icon. It looks like a parody.

>>9247989
it's a gif.

>>9247059

>>9247989
>Humanity would sink into eternal darkness, it would fall into a dull and primitive state, were the Jews to win this war.

>>9247989
Bum sex always goes with Doom. Impse is a classic. Doom 3 had goatse references. Even /vr/ went full bum sex with hffm. I'm a huge doom fag and even i like fuck ass. It's oh right.

>>9248004
There wouldn't be Doom nor whole fps genre, if Germany won the war, dum dum.

>>9247989
Good thing I don't give a shit about shitscord.

>>9247989
>>9247992
You're doing it to yourself by going to chicken man's inner circlejerk.

>>9248017
This. If it weren't for seeing it just now in this thread, I and many others would have not even known that existed. You went to seek it out for yourself to make yourself mad and then brought it here to further shit things up.
Reflect on yourself and what you're doing and delete that garbage leaving it where it belongs, not here.

>>9248000
Ad Mortem needs more sector beds.

>>9247989
okay what the absolute fuck? why would they just randomly set their icon to that for no reason?

>>9247989
Oh my god just fuck off nobody cares about your discord drama bullshit you dumb fucking faggot.
Just leave that shit out of here and kill yourself.

>>9248041
>randomly
he doesn't know

Whats his fucking problem?

>>9247040
https://github.com/WNC12k/DoomRPG-Rebalance

>>9248067
>Whats his fucking problem?
He’s not happy about the upscale putting a weird symbol on his forehead.

>>9248023
>You went to seek it out for yourself to make yourself mad
maybe he just wanted to chat about gzdoom...?

>>9248067
His eyes are way too close together.

>>9248075
>maybe he just wanted to chat about gzdoom...?
I could sympathize with that and being bummed about it. But, I would then come here to talk about GZDoom, not to come here to fume about some gay gif.

>>9248075
we both know that's not true

>>9248014
>>9248017
>>9248043
Let these pitiful attention seekers die off by themselves I say

>>9248008
That would be good, jew.

>>9246218
Quick
Name your favorite Hell map and which Wad it's from

>>9248137
This may be cheating, but either Dark Citadel or Watch Your Step from 64.

>>9248131
If you don't like retro fps, what are you doing on this general?

>>9248137
Mt Erebus. So much nostalgic feelings. It's also comfy.

>>9248160
The implication is that there would be better games than Doom if Germany won.

>>9248137
Out of recent ones, Cocytus from Doom 2 Reloaded was pretty amazing even if it's way too fucking long and hard to tell where to go at times. For a MAP29, it felt almost perfect.

>>9248008
Technically we can't say that for sure. The alternate timeline could have Baguetteburg instead of Wolfenstein, followed by Der Doomen.

>>9248169
>recent ones *I played
Man I just cannot make a single fucking post without some kind of error.

>>9248172
by Johann Carmack and Johann Romero.

>>9248164
Since when did germans make a single good first person shooter?

>>9246516
>>9246425
okay apparently there was a small hint when I think back on it, two pistols placed on the edge, but it's bad design still because you're also fighting those fuckers that leap around and try to shrink you, so you'll just pick them up without even thinking about it.

>>9247989
>>9248041
The author of the ZDoom port itself identifies as trans now so there is a very strong tie in to LGBTQ stuff in the ZDoom community, which is why I'm glad that development of the ZDoom source port stopped in 2017. Hopefully the ZDoom port itself will be forever locked in a pre-rainbow state.

>A controversial Doom mod has been taken offline after its latest update included references to the Holocaust and transphobic mockery of Marisa 'Randi' Heit, the transgender creator of the popular ZDoom source code used by many other modders.

https://www.thegamer.com/doom-mod-wolfenstein-blade-of-agony-offline-holocaust-transphobia/

The mainstream Doom community, like all mainstream game communities now, has long been in the "toxic fanbase" state. They all cancel each other over "micro aggressions" that would have been standard practice on the 2000-2010 internet. I saw that someone on Doomworld recently lamented that Massmouth 2 (2003) used the word "fag" in a joke even though no one back in 2003 or even 2010 would have or did care about that word being used. And Scuba Steve of course recently heavily censored the gay bar level in Action Doom 2 even though that map was not a problem when the wad released in 2007.

To summarize: Everything is stupid.

>>9248279
>The author of the ZDoom port itself identifies as trans
Not true.

>>9248279
>And Scuba Steve of course recently heavily censored the gay bar level in Action Doom 2 even though that map was not a problem when the wad released in 2007.
To make it even more stupid, he claimed the modifications were "seamlessly integrated" or something along those lines but he just straight up cut the audio from the dialogue and now it sounds scuffed. The level itself is also scuffed.

>>9248162
Based, that one is my favourite as well.
My favourite maps in Doom by episode are:
E1M5
E2M2
E3M6
E4M6
They're all so comfy.

So I got so salty over the barons exploding me in D2RELOAD that I'm gonna change how their swipes work a bit to be less absurd.
>Damage from 14d4/ball to somewhere around 11d4/ball or maybe a bit less since all attacks are multi-projectile
>Internal counter for what had they used last that swaps when they finish an attack (including claps) to make fighting them in hallways less RNG
>side swipes now do 3 balls, but they flatten out and go straight after a short distance. They still follow the same dodge rules as before, where dodging in the direction of the hand is best
Basically this should make it so barons can't just fill a whole area with green "fuck you" balls as easily, and make hallway fighting them easier since predicting where each set of projectiles ends up is now deterministic per-baron. For example
>Baron swings with left hand (balls go straight and to your right) then walks (terminates string)
>Next attack can be either right swing or clap
>Baron claps, then swings left, then claps, then terminates string
>Next attack can be either left swing or clap
>Baron swings left...
etc. Using this you can know what direction to dodge in next in advance (either swing direction or swing direction but a bit further) instead of having to purely react. You can also cuck their side swipes in hallways easier by hugging the side they're going to swing from, causing the extra projectiles to hit walls early. If they clap, just step back and it works the same.
All this goes out the window if you're fighting more than one at once, but whatever. I'm probably explaining this horribly.

>>9248391
Nice, I had a hunch you were testing it through D2Reloaded.
I’m also just now recalling your desired feedback on how the mod worked with E4M2, and it’s what got me hooked. How long ago was that?

>>9247989
cause gay a day keeps the russians away

>>9248401
Shit that was like 3 years at least.
Yeah if I had the level of ZS wizardry then as I do now I probably would have done it this way from the outset. It's not that the "current" version of the attack is inherently broken or anything, it's just that it does a lot more than it's intended to.

>>9247180
AoP is under rated mission pack.

>>9247658
I probably missed my chance due to 94protons 512linedefs made the threads overly Doom-centric
isn't that why most Blood disscussion is now spilt into its own threads?

>>9248137
Not exactly an answer but I love hell depictions which are basically our world but twisted so like the final level of Painkiller. Are there maps like that in Doom?

>>9248457
>isn't that why most Blood disscussion is now spilt into its own threads?
There hasn’t been much “discussion” in those threads besides people legitimately asking about the best way to play it, not sure how much that matters.

>>9248460
Doom 2

Well that wasn't as bad as before at least. Barons always fold like a house of cards in front of the shitstorm cannon though.

What if you make an evil eye fire BFG balls instead of plasma balls like in Magnolia? Will it fire tracers as well?

>>9248534
Yes, they call A_BFGSpray on impact.

Serious Business Saturday in about an hour. Because I've been lazy and haven't found a good custom map to play we'll be going back to TFE and playing through some of it with lives on. Get your A game ready.

>>9248137
Classically you can't beat Mt. Erebus, however Hellport from JPCP is pretty cool.

Also, Hazmat Hazama from JPCP. Not really hell in the literal sense but kinda has that psychological "reality is falling apart" sort of hell vibe.

I played 200 minutes of /vr/.

>>9247070
are you having a schizo moment or do you know something i dont

Daikatana source code has leaked
>>9248553

>>9248609
did you rike it?

>>9247807
both soundtracks are great.

>>9246221
>>9248664

>>9246303
After reading this for a while I get the feeling that someone is going to create good (joke) wad based on it

>>9247850
I don't think it is average
>Overrated
Most likely
It would have gone in the pile of forgotten quality wads while old classics that are shitier still remain much more downloaded
If it was made by no name guy

>>9246221
Daikatana Source code was leaked
https://archive.org/details/daikatana-src-collection
Army Men too
https://archive.org/details/armymen_202209
Thread >>9248553

>>9248570
Serious Business Saturday is a go! And today we're getting extra serious by playing through The First Encounter on serious with lives enabled. I'll start us at 30 lives and every level we clear is a new checkpoint. We'll play through as many levels as we can but if we have to restart I'll reset the lives. Please be patient with others.
>ip: 45.79.57.115
>join via specify server
>and remember we're playing THE FIRST ENCOUNTER not TSE

>>9248673
Yes, actually. Not amazing of course, but generally fun. I don't remember thinking "ugh" or "fuck this" at any point.

Doomies, what are your favorite kinds of wads textures/aesthetics/settings? I like Hell Caves. The mostly all-red kinda places with either lava, blood, or rock for floors and the red or black walls with cavern shapes. I can set the weather mod to rain ash down and it's pretty nice. Winter maps are another favorite.

>>9248856
Stuff like the Diablolus Ex testures.

is there a way to increase the resolution in the dos version of ROTT? getting sniped by pixels sucks

>>9248664
Neat.

>>9248201
Nah that's not nearly enough, obviously people will try knocking out the targets but who would expect that to do anything? It's not like you can say "well, what else would they be for" because Douk has tons of interactivity like that which does nothing important.
Worse, even if you do knock out all the targets, it does nothing b/c you need to knock out SPECIFIC ones only, like a fucking combo switch, which is where it becomes absolute bullshit. I don't think there's ANY other place in the game where things other than switches are used in a combo trigger.

desu it would not be horrible as a way to unlock an easter egg secret, but making it required to progress in the level was beyond the pale.

Playing through Doom for the first time. Episode 4 came out after Doom 2, I know chronologically 4 takes place before 2, but should I play Doom 2 before that episode?

>>9248882
Never had this issue. Close the distance.

>>9248917
Yes, Ep4 is garbage. Or at least extremely fuckin' weird compared to the rest of the game. It really doesn't feel like it belongs

>>9248917
Episode 4 is considered to be harder than Final Doom in general, yes even despite Plutonia and its archvile+revenant+chaingunner spam, so you're free to skip it if you can't deal with it. Doesn't matter when you tackle it other than when you feel like it.

>>9248748
Thanks for those who joined. We'll continue off at Suburbs next week. I'm proud how few deaths we had, let's keep it up!

Oh, I'm a retard.

>>9247807
fun, but limited by being based in DOOM 1, but maybe me underestimating it is part of why its good.
>>9248856
i love when my expectations of red are subverted, like the blue of struggle or the purple of ancient aliens.
>>9248917
its really hard, but you could go either way.

>>9248939
I know that feel

>>9248926
i found plutonia pistol start harder than thy flesh consumed pistol start

Sorry for being a retard, but how do I load two wads at once with gzdoom? I want to use Demonsteele with a map pack, but when I tried to just drag both pk3 files into gzdoom I don't get the maps.

>>9249108

>>9249112
Yeah no I did that, I guess the problem was with hell ground since when I loaded up sythe 2, it just werked. Dunno why Hell Ground doesn't work, but whatever, I'll just use sythe I guess.

>>9249108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDaPtR_MeSU

>>9249129
sometimes the load order matters. when ctrl-selecting, the file that you're dragging will be the first loaded.

>>9248878
Yeah, that one is quite nice looking. Cities with lights bordering buildings and interiors is pretty tight, or cyberpunk-ish cities like in AugZen.

>>9248942
I like purple but I hate regular brown, dirt caves. Blue is better but not as good as red or purple. A shore cave can be cool. Like a sand floor/ground with gray walls.

>>9249108
just use doom launcher

>>9249129
I don't know what "hell ground" is, but is it a Doom 1 WAD instead of a Doom 2 one? You might be loading the wrong IWAD

>>9247496

>>9249156
Ah that was it, thank you so much.

>>9249172
>>9249170
>>9249151
It was the load order that was the problem. Thanks for helping though.

>>9249112
you could add a alternative linux part where you say something like "on linux you select the .wads/pk3s, right click and select "open with" and then use the sourceport of choice".

you can also use .sh to replace .bat files or use the terminal, but i tend to not use it much.

>>9246787
>Doom 2 Reloaded
qrd?

>>9249182
Nobody making those images still posts here cares enough about non-Windows OSs to make separate instructions for them.

>>9249279
Basically a shitload of techbases of varying size and complexity, two high-concept maps with strange gameplay, and 10 fairly good hell levels. I'd recommend it with mods, without is also good but maybe a bit easy.

>>9249291
So is it meant to be 'Doom 2 but...' or is it it's own thing?

>>9249293
It's Doom 2 but the level design actually looks like real places and is sometimes very huge.

>>9249296
neat thx I'll try it

>>9249289
I'm actually updating it, just very slowly while I'm busy with other things. It couldn't hurt to add a little footnote about differences on Linux, but I assume most Linux users are smart enough to figure this kind of stuff out themselves.

>>9249297
Just know that MAP01 and MAP02 are basically two of the weakest maps in the whole set.

>>9248740
I wonder what can be done with this, do you think someone could fix the AI partners.

>>9249302 (im the first person who suggested it)
that's fair, but new linux users have strong "windows-isms" (treating linux like it was windows) for some things, so it can be useful.
doesn't need to be a whole section, but a footnote would be nice.

also on stuff like steamdeck, all the help is useful cause the average deck user can range from a gentoo using linux-enthusiast to practically a console player

>>9248067
Something funny blew his sides into orbit and he wants them back.

>>9249303
Gave it a shot, level 3 fucking sucks my dick. I hate it when people think they're being clever with their obtuse switch hunt shit.

>>9248917
The first few levels of 4 will kick you right in the teeth, but it gets more manageable after.

>>9248856
>>9249161
I'm finally going through Aug;Zen and I'm loving it. And Kriegsland Enemies + Ashes Weapons is super good on it.

>>9247807
Way too cramped for my liking, to the point where all I remember about it is having to walk thin ledges, skinny tunnels and tightropes and that one cyberdemon maze hide and seek, that was kino

>>9248067
He's the worst of a bad lot

>>9248067
an angry little martian

stand back! I am entering PLUTONIA MODE

>>9249393
Yeah I mean it keeps doing that, but the rest of it gets a lot better.

>>9249451
Oh no anon became chaingunners and revenants

how do you plan encounters when you design quake maps? i use placeholder brushes for enemies.

>>9248856
I like STARTAN and E1 techbase. unironically comfy

Our long journey has come to an end.
Ashes Afterglow HDest coop is complete.
That was actually pretty fucking fun and a great time. Loved all the details in the maps and the encounters still worked great for HDest. though most of them did get BFG'd

>>9246501
it's perfectly fine, a bit fuck ugly at times but if the new enemies and the SSG didn't fit in and round out the roster perfect as they do...this general would not exist. doom would have languished and wound up in a state similar to duke3d's presence but instead it rocketed to a permanent fixture online.

just a few tweaks in the right direction...

Randy Linden interview about the SNES port
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BIauSQ_hIgo&feature=emb_title

>playing a
>/vr/ mapset
>with /vr/ gameplay mod
>with /vr/ enemy mod
>in /vr/ coop
The ultimate /vr/ doom experience

>>9249510
You're bad

>>9249586
Fug you McMuffin

Best 9/11 wads

>>9249603
Going Down
Hellevator
I'm all out, someone else help.

The 32x prototype roms were better.
The jaguar port and it's descendants were a mistake.

Suddenly brutal doom v21 doesn't have half the sounds effects when ran through gzdoom, any ideas?

>watch a playthrough of a plutonia map
>they don't use the midipack

>>9246339
Time is running out anons. Better get those maps in.

>>9249721
I have the greatest map in the world made for it but I'm never sending it! Take that!

>>9249725
Ok, Terry.

play 10x10

Doom 3's not retro enough to talk about here is it? I tried out the VR mod for BFG Edition yesterday and I'm wondering which of the various HD texture/asset mods are worth using cause the textures/models are definitely showing a bit of age especially blown up to real world/close to real world scale in VR.

>>9249754

>>9249760
I consider Serious Sam 2, The Punisher, Doom 3, Call of Duty 2 and Painkiller to have been retro for a year or two.

>>9246339
https://files.catbox.moe/wfzgyl.wad
Map name: Lucifer's Hammer
Author: NepNep
MIDI: Omega Ridley from Metroid Prime 3
here's the 94P E1 boss map
(insert 9/11 joke here)

>>9246548
Imagine that, but with the AI generated sprites that was posted a while back.

>>9249579
I recognize everything besides the mapset. Care to share?

>>9249886
Looks like 512 lines

>>9249754
I began to lose interest at the last stretch of maps, mainly due MAP07 and 09 where author actually starts to emulate his inspirers. They're kinda cool if viewed in terms of tribute pieces, but my impression is of something little too impersonal, with special touch of earlier game experience being lost. As for the last challenge of 08 you have this large cavern which instantly fills up by hundreds of vermin of most variety - more than a half of total monster count, little to no fight dynamics - you dispatch weak hitters and keep yourself in nook 'till the rest clean themselves out by the means of infighting, basically you get thrown into mixer of shit 'n blood colloquially called slaughter. I guess that the author tried to spice things up with that one, but what made me regain momentum is Insane_Gazebo styled MAP10 owing to its minimalistic puzzley fights and choice of MIDI. Perhaps I was a bit spoiled by the initial presentation which in contrast clearly felt as if made by the professional game designer.
>>9249886
It's 512 linedefs of /vr/

>>9249891
On other hand my opinion is garbage and should be met with a great deal of skepticism, enjoy playing.

>>9249793
CUM

>>9246450
1) Only people into bestiality say that, not even furries want the typically feral animal features, the face of a warthog isn't pretty or cute because you give it eyeliner. The vast majority of people just aren't going to look at the faces of the existing Imp, Pinky, Revenant, Mancubus, or Arch-Vile, and think that they kinda wanna fuck that.
2) Exaggerated anime features are much easier to convey at this scale of sprites. The normal Imp, but with subtly feminized facial features would be difficult to read as different at all at a glance, and the result would be that it looks like you put tits and lipstick onto the existing Imp which would be hilarious and unsexy. The existing H-Doom faces are low res, but does actually read as female cartoon faces.
3) Spriting, especially character sprites, is hard and tedious work.

You're basically looking at making your own project for your own interests. Nobody is going to do this for you.

>>9246450
Oh wait, I only read the first line and thought you were that guy who used to complain that the Baroness Of Hell doesn't have the face of an ugly pig.

My point about conveying a feminine face being easier with something like an anime style still stands though, you kind of would want to increase the sprite resolution a bit.

>>9246489
IIRC with some of the old console versions they forgot to delete the monsters a couple of times when removing rooms, so it could be some leftover dudes outside the map that you can't reach.

>>9246450
>bull (female)

Strict rule adherence to UV-Maxing is a mistake, and strong preference for extended stats hud is hugely misplaced. It really is fine to skip monsters and not to know what mapper has in stock for you, you shouldn't deter your enjoyment down the routine.

>>9249886
>>9249890
>>9249891
Fuck, I meant nothing besides the mapset. Im fucking stupid I guess, I was meaning to ask for both mods

>>9249958
There can be anything you want behind that loincloth, anon.

>>9249978
I agree, a map's atmosphere and exploratory aspect is almost entirely negated if you play with level stats on and go for UV max.

>>9250047
Good thing modern maps hardly have any "exploratory aspect" left.

>>9249958
looks like an orc, now that i think about it
hell, i can see it fit in hedon

>>9249978
Just copy and paste crusher sector with thousands of zombiemen from map to map, also make a habbit of placing multiple secret sectors in single spot. It's really not that hard, make it a new modern practice.

Thinking of dipping my toes into Doom mapping
What editor should I use since I noticed there are a few

>>9250075
>What editor should I use since I noticed there are a few
Not really. Everyone uses UDB, unless you're on linux in that case good luck.

>>9250075
Ultimate Doom Builder is the most up to date one.
You will also need SLADE3 to modify resources other than maps - such as music, for once (SLADE3 can do maps too, but is less convenient)

>>9250075
Ultimate Doom Builder is commonly used, other options are Slade with Eureka... any will do, just remember to >>9250073

>>9250075
Ultimate Doom Builder is the most updated one and has the easiest UI to get into (Doom builder 2 is okay but the UI is sometimes a pain in the ass)
People also map in Slade but I havent tried that - unless you use some weird ass OS like linux UDB should be enough for you

>>9250079
>You will also need SLADE3
He WILL not need Slade if he is just making a map, leave the wad editing for later.

This is an old FAQ for the Master Levels, compiled in the late 90s.
http://classicdoom.com/hosted/larsen/mlfaq103.htm

What makes this FAQ interesting today is that the author, aside from gathering some existing quotes, actually contacted people from iD Software as well as the individual contributors of the Master Levels, asking them questions about development, and most responded.

>The wads for maximum were basically grabbed from the net (if you couldn't tell). The decision to put maximum DOOM on the CD was kind of last minute, so it wasn't something we raised the price for :) We just basically wanted to give everyone a little bit more. At that time, not everyone had access to the net and on-line services were pretty expensive, so downloading a ton of wads wasn't feasible for everyone...
Shawn Green, June, 1998

>The Maximum DOOM levels were put together because of the success of D!Zone -- we wanted people to buy our Internet scrape of WADs instead.
John Romero, April, 1998

John Carmack gave a flat and short reply stating "I had no involvement with the Master Levels."

Tim Willits didn't reply at all, but the author found some correspondance with his Tim's sister, Theresa Chasar:
>I did the original layout for the Ultimate DOOM Level E4M5 "Thy Flesh Consumed." Tim modified it a little, textured it, and added the objects. We also worked on two of the Masters Levels together. I got credit for the second one, but they were both a joint effort. We kept trading the files back and forth. Tim did the final editing on both of them.

>>9250047
I'm not actually that bothered by it, but I guess it would be a bit more tense to not have that info on my HUD.

>>9250073
That's actually a really cool idea, I should do that.

>>9250083
Fair point, although not having "Running from Evil" play on a map improves the impression of it.

>>9250078
>>9250079
>>9250081
>>9250082
So UDB and Slade3, got it
What sort of limitations are there, since I come from GoldSrc/Source mapping

>>9250093
Would ancient aliens be as well received with stock d2 music? Running from Evil kinda fits well with the first cyberdemon map I'd imagine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gfp8j_jIgY
Is it just me or does the flute/accordion/whatever and guitar parts of this song sound like E1M1 At Doom's Gate?

>>9250096
That depends on port you aim for. There are 4 big categories - Vanilla, Limit-Removing, Boom and gzDoom.
Vanilla means making the map that could run on original executable. Mostly done as a challenge or for weirdos that play on dosbox
Limit-removing is the same, except game won't crash just because I see too many surfaces. Biggest limit is that you have to work with actions that were specifically programmed into game. Like there's only two speeds lifts can have.
Boom is the most popular, arguably, it's still the same general feel but you can define more flexible actions, some engine hacks are codified into proper functionality and scrolling floors lets you place additional player starts that you don't control that roll through action lines creating crude approximations of a script
gzDoom means anything goes, you could do things original Doom couldn't to the point that you can make completely different game.

>>9250096
Room over Room is only possible in UDMF format, and it's not "real" 3D, you don't work with brushes, but with lines and sectors.
Best to read or watch a tutorial on Doom map making, as 2.5D mapping is vastly different from 3D mapping in the way you have to approach building a level from a mapper's point of view.

>tfw I'm no composer like stewboy to bring out character out of my insipid mapping
Absolutely meaningless venture, it's over

>>9250078
Is there something wrong with DBX?

Sup /vr/

I found this columbine map and was kind of set back how detailed it is, yet totally unfinished. I tried cleaning it up and noticed why he had problems, but left a lot of stuff thats easily fixed or unfinished there.

Should I fix it?

>>9250112
>>9250113
Sounds like I want to do Boom or gzdoom then

>>9250148
Boom is a good choice to learn mapping without being overwhelmed. You can transition to gzDoom later.

Werewolf blowjob followed by paizuri?
(not vore)

>>9246339
https://files.catbox.moe/ilephk.zip
Demon Core by Bartekmil - Version 3
Just some visual fixes to drop in before the release. Hope we are close to wrapping it up

>>9250146

>>9246339
>>9250165
Also, death exit doesnt seem to work on my gzdoom, though that maybe because I have an old version of it that doesnt go well with mbf21
Chop, are you adding the colormaps? I included one in the map, it should work alright

how to enable endoom in Woof?

Does Arcane Dimensions work with the Quake remaster?

>>9250173
Not possible. ENDOOM severely affects sp**dr*nner's performance, therefore it was removed.

>>9250173
Options -> general -> miscellaneous > show endoom screen

>>9250146
UAC Ultra 2 when?

>>9250179
I thought woof is not a speedrunning port
>>9250181
Its not there

>>9250202
I was only goofing off, but maybe they indeed removed it. Check carefully.

Are there any more big adventure type mods for Hexen like Shadow of the Serpent Riders and Cult of Despair?

>>9250165
slightly unrelated, I like that doomguy mugshot. I've been meaning to make my own but I'm SUPER lazy.

Thoughts?
By the way, each list is not ordered from best to worst.

>>9247031
Making death match levels into single player levels will never not be fucking cool

>>9250190
It's cancelled.

>>9250202
>>9250216
Does the wad you are playing even have an ENDOOM lump?
Playing through 512 with Woof I have always had the ENDOOM.

I think I am gonna replay Far Cry 1, I had a potato pc back in the day and never finished it, the max difficulty was insane.

And looking back it really seems like a fun game. A product of its time and tech.

>>9250254
Make sure to fix the water reflections

>>9250258
Alright
All the others dont push me at all, farcry 2 3 etc.

I kinda wish we had a silly jurassic park far cry 1 type game. Complete with sexy Valerie paleontologist.

>>9250260
Fix the ai too

>>9250254
Bring webms so we can see how it aged

>>9250202
It's there in 8.1.0. Maybe it was removed in the later versions

>>9250312
It was certainly still there in 10.1.0

>>9250181
>>9250216
>>9250234
>>9250243
>>9250312
>>9250348
nevermind, I had some old version or something, Im really lazy and stupid lately

>>9249718
I'm not too fond of plutonia midi pack. Didn't find any song from it to be great/memorable.
Maybe I've got too used to original Doom 1/2 arrangement throughout the years. So different music by default gets a repulsive reaction from me.

>>9247989
i dont care at all about all that shit.
however its fucking retarded they have like 5 pages of rules and guidelines, most of which are irrelevant, redundant, or just common sense.
they had to write like 5 paragraphs of an autobiograpgy just to say "we have to verify you but it make take a few hours since we're not always around"
that's an immediate red flag for power-tripping jannies. if you want to ban edgy idiot from your server thats more than enough, but this is clearly power fantasy territory.

>>9250376
jannies with enough time to think about anything other than pruning spambots and illegal content will absolutely always pull shit like this. it's an occupational disease and the only treatment that works is understaffing

gzdoom or zdoom, and why?

>>9250376
>thats more than enough
more than fair enough*

>>9250395
zdoom because it doesn't harvest telemetric data

>>9250395
gzdoom because it makes this faggot >>9250402 mad

>>9249626
the jag maps are inferior, but console hardware was limited at the time so it was the best solution, even the PS1 couldn't fully maintain 30 in jag DOOM 1 maps afaik

>>9250395
isnt zdoom outdated? might cause issues with newer maps/mods.
if telemetry data is an issue for you, surely you could just recompile it with that shit removed.

>>9249979
Malefactors for enemies and LTG for gameplay

>>9250421
Telemetry was only a thing during the hardware survey anyway and it was voluntary.

>>9250369
i like the recycled doom tracks better too. they fit the levels and they're pretty much a "best of"

>>9250434
it was made voluntary after it was found out

>>9250434
That whole thing was such a load of horse shit, Graf had to know the people on older hardware would be less likely to download a botnet version anyway, and then surprise surprise the results supported his initiative to trash all compatibility which is what he wanted to do in the first place.

>>9250420

jaguar was good hardware, just had little to no SDK that took a carmack to actually make something out of it easily.

He later said he could upgrade the res with what he learnt later on and fix the music.

>>9250434
It was only made voluntary begrudgingly, it was originally opt-out but they didn't really tell anybody it was there and to opt out you had to put a specific line in the .ini.

Soundposts?

When does the Sunday co-op server usually get set up? I'm rarin' to go

>>9250146
i'd play it

>>9250478
I'M FUCKIN' INVINCIBLE!!

>>9250489
6 PM EST, about 5 hours and 23 minutes from now.

Give me a Quake map pack with interesting level design that isn't just monster closets, keys and doors.

>>9250503
Honey.

>>9250503
bbelief2008
telefragged (from RRP)

>>9249978
>strong preference for extended stats hud is hugely misplaced
I agree. When playing a map for the first time, kills/secrets/items counts should remain hidden.

Hey anonymous, watch me do the "/vr/ mapper" impression!
>Everyone's ideas for maps are stupid except mine

>>9250554
>Everyone's ideas for maps are stupid except mine
correct

>>9249978
I don't get how knowing the total monster count affects moment-to-moment gameplay. you don't know that you've missed stuff until the end anyway, at which point doing a cleanup doesn't hurt.
secrets are another story. clearly, getting all secrets makes the map easier than it is on an average run, so it's a mystery why uv-max is supposed to be some ultimate achievement.

>>9250563
You can't fake a player out with a huge encounter if they already know they're missing hundreds of monsters before pressing the fake exit switch.

>>9250567
sounds like an extremely situational feature that gets old if used twice in a hundred maps
also something that's probably trivial to work around if you mod the monsters or just map in udmf to begin with

>>9250567
In theory yes but in practice at least a third of people don't pay attention to the kill count or secrets .

I agree that constantly having level stats on the HUD can get in the way. I removed it and my first playthrough is always blind, though I do usually keep the stats on the automap.

That being said, wtf is it with this trend here about fucking over people who wanna UV-MAX? I do enjoy it myself, going through a WAD I've already played and uncovering every secret, every enemy, getting 100% on the tally screen. Yet I keep seeing all these tricks pop up to screw people over and just irritate someone. At a certain point you might as well just have a giant inaccessible room filled with a hundred secrets sectors and a random amount of zombiemen just to punish people who play "the wrong way". Seems asinine.

>>9246339
https://files.catbox.moe/bu3dxh.wad
Map name: Hexed
Author: ViolentBeetle
MIDI: Your Last Resort by Viscra Maelstrom

Didn't have as much time as I hoped to refine the map, but it works. It has all the hallmarks of Plutonia - chaingunners, revenants, pain elementals, death pits. But probably more cover than necessary.
Difficulty should be implemented, if not, I screwed up the upload.

>>9250598
>wtf is it with this trend here about fucking over people who wanna UV-MAX?
They're just contrarians who don't even make maps because they spend more time on image boards fantasizing about how they can fuck over an enemy they made up in their head instead of spending time in the editor.

>>9250606
Fix your sbar ratio

>>9250618
How about I fix ratio of ur mum instead?

>>9250631
Only if you fix your sbar ratio

>>9250598
>wtf is it with this trend here about fucking over people who wanna UV-MAX?
Like what exactly? I mean apart from your strawmen, what maps actually, actively fuck over UV-Maxers?

>>9250239
Bobby Prince Ambient > Bobby Prince Metal

>>9250503
Try ne_ruins, it felt like a fresh air after a bunch of vanilla/copper maps.

>>9250660
water world from duke3d is badass

wads/mods/level packs made by japanese people?

>>9250232
I only played the intro of it, but give Abysm a whirl? The Diablo 1 TC or Castlevania TC might be potentially be of interest too. Maybe Youtube them before bothering with any.

>>9250727
I liked watrsp.wad

What did I messed up if Trenchbroom doesn't show me any textures upon loadout a Quake(2) map I wanted to inspect?
Do I need a game CD or the original executable to have it recognize it?

>>9250762
Did you properly compile the map? Did you use the proper textures?
I haven't done anything in TB since HUH, so I can barely remember what had to be done in particular.

>>9250762
Make sure colormap.pcx is loading, point it towards your q2 folder.

If you can’t figure out how to set it up, you’re not going to make it mapping.

>>9250762
you only need the paks. set up the game dir, add the texture collections.

>>9250395
The performance of Z- ports suffers greatly on big maps, but GZDoom's hardware renderer mitigates that. Even more so if your GPU supports Vulkan.

>>9250447
>At Doom's Gate while you go through hellish city in final regular level
>"Victory" (quite bittersweet track) for final boss
Kino. I really love the original music choice for Plutonia.

>>9250395
The only reason to use ZDoom in the past ten years has been backwards compatibility.

>>9250831
and for stuff that's designed for ZDoom, like lilith.pk3 and Shadow of the Wool Ball and Yholl mods.

Realms Deep 2022 in less than a week!
Please, PLEASE show Ion Fury : Aftershock! Or at least release an approximate release window... Please...
What else are you guys looking forward to at RD2022 ?

>>9250858
>What else are you guys looking forward to at RD2022
Absolutely nothing after the decent stuff from the last year turned out to be basically dead in the water.

>>9250858
Apparently Compound Fracture is still in active development and they will show a new trailer, so I am at least looking forward to that.
I really hope something comes out of it.

>>9250848
>Shadow of the Wool Ball and Yholl mods
Don't those work perfectly fine in latest versions of GZDoom? I know Yholl explicitly stated that his mods are made for ZDoom 2.8.1 and other versions are unsupported, but last time I checked, Final Doomer, LegenDoom and DRLA - all worked fine on GZ 4.8.2. The latter two had some broken menus, but that's it.
As for Wool Ball, I wasn't even aware there were any port restrictions.

>>9246221
Hey, it is the 25th anniversary of Hexen 2! Anons, say some nice things about the damn games. I haven't finished it yet because I get distracted every now and then, but the game surely is curious. Even though I played with the guide since the beginning, so certain puzzles weren't such a pain in the ass. To be fair though, I love original Hexen. So I don't think it would've been an issue for me either way.
https://twitter.com/kotolout/status/1568917177713197057
>>9250858
>What else are you guys looking forward to at RD2022 ?
Wizordum's public demo. Some 3D Realms stuff, like Aftershock and (perhaps) WRATH. Perhaps there would be something about Gloomwood, even though it just hit Early Access. And whatever interesting comes up, I honestly can't recall everything from the last year since most of games on Realms Deep 2021 were "just there" and not all of "interesting ones" are First-Person Shooters and/or Immersive Simulations.

>>9250874
Yeah, there's too much saturation. I'm less interested in boomer shooters than I am the imsim route things are taking, save a few.
It seems like a lot of these projects make a lot of headway early on then flounder for years.

>>9250858
Finally, a Shelly art with face that is not disgusting.
>What else are you guys looking forward to at RD2022 ?
Some substantial Wrath news, though I'm not putting much hope on it.
Dusk HD release date. I can't stand the original extreme low-poly style.
More info on that Fallout inspired game.
That's it. The main event for me is still IF: Aftershock.

>>9250904
>As for Wool Ball, I wasn't even aware there were any port restrictions.
It definitely launched in a state that wouldn't work on GZDoom because Graf had a minor shitfit about it, it just wasn't on par with his Lilith.pk3 shitfit.

>>9250910
I started my first playthrough of Hexen 2 earlier this year. Loved the first episode, and I'm saying that as someone who dislikes the original Hexen. I liked that puzzles in 2 are things which actually somewhat make sense, not just button pressing.
Anyway, I couldn't continue because first boss is broken in FTE, the engine I used. Yeah, not going with Hammer of Thyrion was a mistake.

>>9250924
The motorcycle pic for Aftershock is the best piece of art for her.
>>9250924
>dusk hd
shame the animations are still weak. they look fine with the original models because they match fidelity.

>>9250951
Tbh I was poking at those two cartoonish arts of Shelly, clearly made by the same author. They pop up here sometimes. I reaaally dislike her face on those.
>The motorcycle pic for Aftershock is the best piece of art for her.
True that. My desktop wallpaper.

>>9250858
I'm genuinely more interested in whenever the fuck Blue Vertigo do another community showcase than in Realms Deep.

It'll at least have something to show for Space Pirate on there.

>>9250924
>Shelly art with face that is not disgusting
are we seeing the same picture? wtf?

>>9251019
Shit makes her look like she's gained about twenty years.

>>9250924
It looks pretty disgusting anon.

>>9250858
Nothing really. Not even Afershock.

>>9250951
>>9250956
Not the anons, but will post the art in case someone asks.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/YevJKY

>>9250910
I like Hexen 2 less than Hexen 1, but it's still an enjoyable game.
I dislike the faux-real world setting and the atmosphere isn't as good (nor the music), but it's still pretty enjoyable.
My favourite character is the Paladin, since he is more of a mix between the Fighter and the Cleric (which is my favourite character in the original Hexen).
Hub 3 in Hexen 2 can go fuck itself though, one puzzle misleads you because the text gives you wrong information, and another one is basically random.
My favourite hubs were 1 (and it's reprisal) and 4, I kinda wish we got a more ancient setting with 2.
Portals of Praevus is also good.

>>9251153
I love Hexen 2 looks and classes, but I just wish it was more of an rpg.

Maybe even better if it was a 3rd person game like heretic 2, have some fun backtracking, diablo inventory. etc

There is a certain charm to quake 1 engine and hexen 2 fully uses it. Although some levels are wonky.

>>9251157
There's a ton of potential in the Hexen kind of game but no game or mod has really fully managed to tap into it.

Getting a something about "can't find function rain_think in server" is rogue.exe for Darkplaces.

What to about this? Try something else, like Quakespam, or...?

Oh wow, there's an AOW2 server with over 20 people right now. It's making a come back?

>>9249773
Nice. Good job getting noticed, Lunch-sensei.

>>9250947
>Yeah, not going with Hammer of Thyrion was a mistake.
It's alright. You should give it another try eventually.
>>9251153
>I like Hexen 2 less than Hexen 1, but it's still an enjoyable game.
I feel like that's where I am currently as well. However, I don't want to really "judge it" until I defeat Eidolon.
>nor the music
It's alright, even though at least half of it is reused tracks from Hexen and/or Heretic. I like music in those games, but that's a bummer.
>he is more of a mix between the Fighter and the Cleric
That's why I picked him. And I wasn't really sold on Crusader's Ice Mace.
>My favourite hubs were 1 (and it's reprisal) and 4
Blackmarsh is the best. Definitely.
>>9251157
>Maybe even better if it was a 3rd person game like heretic 2
If anything, that's how I imagine Heretic/Hexen franchise to return... If that ever happens. Third person, more RPG-esque thing. Something between Hexen 2 & Heretic 2. Probably leaning towards co-op because that's the style at the time.

>>9251196
>co-op

Please fuck no.

>>9251196
>that's how I imagine Heretic/Hexen franchise to return... If that ever happens.
Unlikely now since Microsoft ultimately owns the IP and owns TES.

Corporate mergers are bad for competition and even in some small way it'd be competing, so it won't be allowed to exist.

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME! Tonight we've got two WADs prepared, we'll start it up with ViolentBeetle's HELLEVATOR, then we'll cool down by revisiting GOING DOWN! The catch? We're also gonna be running these WADs with BOOM POWER, which makes everyone violently explode upon death, resulting in plenty of team kills, hilarity, and crashes!

Enough talk, let's get this show on the road, the password today is "redsun"

51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

>>9251210
Caco blood can't melt SLIME14 sectors.

Finally finished Doom 32x on Nightmare using save states.
7/10.

>>9251210
Make it stop

>>9249793
Cool, I'll give it a look tomorrow.

>>9250165
Basically wrapping up (as far as map submissions anyway, it'll be mainly up to me to finish the weapons and my own maps). A beta will be assembled at any rate, even if there's some stuff which isn't yet finished.

Potentially some tweaks may be called on for the new submissions right at the end here, but that can probably be addressed rather quickly within the week. The previous submissions I think are mostly very well polished and wouldn't really need more work, unless the authors in question insist. For the colormaps, yes, if you included them.

>>9250606
I'll have to check it out.

Don't stress about time too much, the submissions are closing, but it's fine if you clean up or update your already submitted map after the fact. If you're ok with it I can address any potential bugs or stuff though, that's quick to do.

>>9250271
quake 4 on general is fucking miserable

>>9251289
>Quake 4 or: How I Learned to Stop Making Good Games and Love the Quake 2

>>9251289
The high enemy damage is nice, and the higher enemy health increases your exposure to that damage. Q4 is still just miserable overall.

>>9251289
game wouldve been fine if the multiplayer wasnt a shitty aped version of quake 3 and the singleplayer didnt consist of a nigger on a radio telling you where to go

>>9251304
except the extremely tight level design hardly lets you limit how much of that damage you take. it apparently wants you to play like its a quake game but it isn't actually built like one.