/vr/ - Retro Games

Emulation is fine for PlayStation and older, but sucks for N64 and up.
I don't know how arcades and home computers fare, I'm mainly focused on consoles.

I rarely play emulation anymore due to input lag. If I had the money to invest in FPGA machines I would probably do it, but I have a bunch of older flashcarts that play most games on my official consoles.

>>9232849
before I even took the console pill desu. I always used my PC to play games regardless of wether they're PC games or console games.
I did spend a ton of coins at arcades though

>>9232849
After reading about emulators in gaming magazines back in 2003. I don't reject the idea of collecting games I like, I just use emulators to play any games I want at the time without restrictions.

Flashcarts and consoles are my preference.

>>9232849
For me the lates 90s. SNES emulation was fine by then.
Sold all my retro consoles about four years ago (Dreamcast, snes with 60 games, good price for Earthbound, Atari VCS…bunch of other stuff)
I don’t miss it any of it.

>>9232849
>emulationpill
you could call it that. i just emulate consoles i can't get for less than 100 bucks.

As soon as I realized I could get thousands and thousands games for free and the differences with real hardware are minimal as I'm not autistic.

>>9232849
nah i realized playing videogames was autistic

As soon as I realized that the Dolphin is a better console than the Wii

when did you realize that this board has become complete shit because it's full of /v/ermin like OP

>>9232849
got it right here

>>9232948
You're the vermin, you autistic manchild. Fuck off gutter trash

At the age of 10 in 1998

>>9233018
thanks shitman

is this the poorfag cope thread?

>>9233045
stop huffing rottening plastic

I emulate 2d games because I can't tell the difference.
I play pirated 3d games on original hardware because they are always broken on pc emulators.

>>9232849
Many reasons
1. Easily available
2. Easy to manage in computer folders
3. Lack of any demand or market that deals
with retro hardware where I live
4. Being Poorfag, especially when taking
account of point 3.
I am a very simple man, just happy to be able to play old games.

>>9233047
No.

>>9233045
Based on >>9233047's post, I'd say yes.

>>9232849
>When did you take the emulationpill?
When Nesticle was current. Playing like that stripped most of what makes NES games great, but not having the real thing to compare it to I just stopped playing anything old

By the time the Wii came out and I tried SMB1 in 240 on a CRT I was shocked by how good it was, and then started doing virtual console injection to play games that weren't available. It took a lot of time but it was worth it

Some time after that I finally tried real hardware on a CRT again. Until then I thought that the VC emulators were lagless; I was wrong. Playing without the audio and input lag made a massive difference in almost every game. From that point on I started playing 3rd, 4th and 5th gens almost exclusively, and on original hardware with the exception of trying things like Dolphin, and RetroArch whenever it made advancements

Now I use RetroArch to quickly try things out, but I'd never play an entire action game that way. It isn't nearly as good as original hardware, no matter how you set it up. WASAPI audio driver, Linux builds; you can do things that help a lot, but it's never as good

Maybe I'll get a MiSTer eventually, but I could buy a lot of games or consoles with that money. Despite the MiSTer's convenience and utility, it's hard to get excited about spending money on a soulless FPGA. With old cart consoles original hardware will always be the way to have the best experience

>>9232849
It isn't any less of a waste of time to play video games at all, so that's a pretty shit retarded reason to emulate
If you're poor because you're a fucking loser, I can understand needing to emulate

>>9232849
5th gen and older absolutely, 6th gen and beyond there are plenty of multiplats available on PC and the hardware is still both common, cheap, and easy to mod.
Ultimately just use your discretion and do what works for you, I for one modded my wii as my main emulation/Nintendo machine and once that's done I will be modding my Xbox and PS2 for completeness.
That said I hope emulator devs continue to improve their emulators.

>>9232849
Ideally flashcart and original hardware is how I like to play but depending on platform, repairing the console and sourcing flash carts and optical drive hack chips can be hard to get. I usually use emulators to test a game / system and if I really like it and can justify the cost / availability I get loose carts / disks of the games I really like, and CIB versions of my must haves (as long as price is reasonable).

>>9232849
The only physicals I collect now are of PS3 games cause the emulator is trash and DS games cause emulating the touchscreen is cringe and those aren't to be played portably, as in, not anchored down to a PC

>>9233045
You think buying old video games is a sign of wealth?

>>9233083
Post a picture of the most attractive woman you ever had sex with

>>9232849
As soon as I learned about somewhere around 1997. Thousands of free games? Yes please!

>>9232849
I pretty much guarantee you that everyone who collects also emulates games. I dunno why you guys get triggered about people owning things.
t. hoarder

>>9233265
It has nothing to do with wealth. It’s just that there’s almost no argument against physical media that doesn’t boil down to either being a complete poorfag or hopelessly insecure about what people will think of their collection

>>9232849
Ever since I have a memory of anything.
Poor as fuck, Famiclones, cheap pirated cartridges and burned CDs everyone and their grandma were having, dad encouraging me to play on the house PC instead of going out and headbutting a bullet... I was born an emufag.

>when did you take the emulation pill
2002
Before that I modded consoles. I know I know you're jealous. I'll tell you what. You'll be cool once you set me up with your sisters to slam.

I realized that I'm playing turn-based RPGs and strategy games. Why should I care about input lag?

>>9232849
if you're born in south America you're pretty much given a free pass to just pirate as many games as you want since your government is corrupt, hates you and video game companies know your all to poor to buy their games and consoles anyway.

>>9232849
A long time ago. Once prices started going up, I decided to limit myself to just getting copies of my childhood favorites and maybe a few other classics that weren't prohibitively expensive, and contented myself with used copies at that. I've not bought an actual game in years. It's just not worth it.

>>9233045
Yes. Get used to it, most of the good posters on this board are gone, for good reason.

>>9232849
I didn't.

>>9233904
Collectionfags were always made fun of.

>>9233818
It has nothing to do with wealth because its common sense. If someone was offered a choice between two near equal in quality products but one is free and the other is not, most will choose the free one regardless of income level.

>>9233904
>the hoarders were the only good posters on /vr/

This is a board for the discussion of retro games, not an exclusive club for elitists who don’t even play them.

>>9233047
Cope

>>9233970
lmao nigga get a job

>>9232849
I used to emulate, as well as play ports, but nowadays, as an old man, I'm only interested in playing the original versions of games on original hardware. Even PC games. Anything else feels like a waste of time.

>>9232849
I took the ODE/Flashcart pill. OG hardware, fuck collecting games and CDs

>>9234042
I can appreciate that, I really can, but for me, even the ritual of removing the disc from the case, placing it in the system, closing the lid, etc. is all part of the fun. The entire process of reading through the intructions, reading over the label, handling the disc... that's all integral to the experience for me.

>>9234036
>playing the actual important part of the game is a waste of time
what you're dealing with is having to find increasingly elaborate forms of escapism to cope

>>9234065
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Care to elaborate?

>retro hardware is cheap as fuck except for a few rare games
>pOOrfAg cOpE
Lol wtf

>>9232849
It's not so much the waste of time, collecting games can be fun and games are a waste of time to begin with, you stupid bitch. God, you're so dumb.
Anyway, the real problem is the recent surge in cart and disc prices, I'll buy if it's reasonable, but I won't stop playing some games just because they're hard to find or too expensive.

>>9232874
>due to input lag
Literally not a problem anymore.

>>9234057
>reading through the intructions, reading over the label, handling the disc
99% of this experience is available to emukings for free, except for touching the paper/plastic. Emu or real, skipping the documentation entirely is zoomer tier. Unless you're a grug-brain who never read manuals in the first place.

>>9234091
The documentation for old games is often incredibly detailed - describing damn near everything the game has to offer. I love that stuff.

The owner of a small coffee shop I used to go to in 2004 was really into old arcades. He was a pretty laid back guy, we weren't technically friends because I was like 20 years younger than him but he would always treat me like another adult. We would talk about games and that kind of stuff. Some day, a friend told him about mame and gave him the emulator and a full romset, and he specifically made another copy of the dvds for me.

>>9232849
when i learned how to do it

>>9234057
I collect some games but only the ones I care deeply for

>>9233045
No. It's the virgin manchild meltdown thread. All they have in life is video games, and they feel that playing on archaic hardware makes them superior.

>>9232849
made the switch to emulation after making one of those meme setups where I had 16 physical consoles connected to a tv.
it looked really cool and I even splurged on flashcarts, but the sheer convenience of emulation meant I still played on pc more with a multi monitor setup.

emulation has come a long way, and retroarch was one of the best things to happen for the sheer amount of options. with run-ahead you even has less lag than real hardware.
make a frontend/launcher and you're good to go.

>>9234084
Playing games is the only thing that matters

>>9232849
When I was a kid and didn't have a lot of money for games. Then I became an adult, got a job, and made a collection.

(I'm 26)

Why yes I do collect physical media while only playing on emulators how did you know

Why is it every other thread on this board these days is a clusterfuck trying to convince everyone else to drop physical media or screeching about collecting.

Despite being born in 1985, I didn't get a computer until 2000 because my parents had shitty credit and couldn't afford to outright buy me one until then. In the late 90s I saw people emulating SNES games in an arcade at the local mall and I was surprised such a thing was possible. Emulators were one of the first things I downloaded on my PC when I got it in 2000.

>>9234350
Having fun is what matters. Doesn't matter if you get it from playing or collecting as long as you're having fun

>>9232849
Realized that when I was six, OP. Emulation is fine as long as you're playing backups. Downloading and playing titles you don't own is theft, and ignorant of the original developer's merit.

>>9232864
how so? Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 run even better than on said consoles while on pc and with FSR enhancements btw

>>9232849
When I realized you could play game boy games on your phone.

>>9234169
What a retard

>>9234470
>Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 run even better than on said consoles while on pc
Nope. Worse
>>9232864
>Emulation is fine for PlayStation and older, but sucks for N64 and up.
No, to varying extents it sucks for everything. It's always an inferior experience that you settle for when there's no other choice. Some people realize that, and others rationalize that emulation's superior in order to avoid negative emotions relating to what they do and don't have

>>9234496
>to varying extents it sucks for everything
SNES, GBA and PS1 emulation are literally perfect. you're a retard.

My parents threw out every single piece of video game hardware or media they could get their hands on when I turned 18. My entire collections for:
>NES
>Master System
>SNES
>Genesis
>N64
>Playstation
>Game Boy, Color, Advance
It's sheer dumb luck that I managed to save my Dreamcast. Also I paid for all of it in the first place with my own money

>>9232849
I played SNES and GBA games on PC right up until seventh gen.

>>9234496
Everybody wants to pay 10x the price of a new game for a grimy old cartridge with another man's piss, shit and cum on it. They just can't afford it. I know what I have.

I started in 2001 to emulate SNES games I missed out on like SMRPG and Kirby Super Star.

GBA era was bonkers, once VBA hit a certain point you could grab brand new games from the internet and play them immediately

>>9234559
Let me guess, burger living in the midwest?

>>9232849
2019

>>9232849
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>>9234587
emulate a vagina, faggot lmao

>>9234650
>Implying vaginas are better than onaholes

>>9232849
>When
1998 neoRageX. Emulation has come a long way since then. Unfortunately its still shit.

>>9234650
Sick burn

>>9234584
>Everybody wants to pay 10x the price of a new game for a grimy old cartridge with another man's piss, shit and cum on it.
Everybody wants a pristine copy of their favourite games, but not everybody can have that. It's triggering to some people, and some of them try to cope with posts like yours

>>9234650
videogames aren't even close to having sex as an experience......yet......

>>9234496
>Nope. Worse

how? Lol, sounds like you are coping (in low res appreciation lmao)

>>9234686
>how?
Audio lag, input lag, glitches

>>9234676
there are several video games better than sex, you larping virgin

>>9234710
Love > video games > sex

I only emulate if I either have to, or just for something I want to play casually. I have real consoles that are either chipped, or equipped with flashcarts for everything else.

>>9232849
It always had it uses.
Fuck Retroarch tho.
I never seen such horrible piece of software in my entire life.
And I worked with outdated database regarding tractor factory

>>9232849
I spent 2016-2019 autistically going to garage sales autistically every weekend looking for cheap games and consoles
amassed a fuckhuge collection and then realized what a cringe retard what I was being when emulation gives me what I want for free. I was just buying the games like a woman buys shoes, it was to fill a hole in my life that needed to be fulfilled by something else. and that's what collectors are, pathetic, sad human beings.

>>9232864
>but sucks for N64 and up.
Wrong. and you've been wrong since 2015, considering N64 was fixed in 2015 through the release of GlideN64.

>>9234708
You are literally coping bro, those are exceptions, not the rule. the vast majority of games you can upscale and some you can even increase frames.

>>9234797
>those are exceptions, not the rule
They're the rule for all software emulation, especially the kind you're talking about, with no frame delay or runahead

>>9234784
I'm other anon, it really depends on a lot of factors.
For example there is Dolphin everyone regards as best thing since sliced bread. Seemingly best emulator, mostly well deserved.
But when I tried to use it for Zangeki no Reginlei recently, all I got is single frame per minute with no exact fix in sight.
And it's mostly my machine only too. Probably some hardware being incompatible.

Or I had experience with Saturn emulation, where only one emulator worked out of few tried to run pretty wellknown Guardian Heroes. And that emulator was without GUI.

There is no absolute the further you go into emulation consoles wise. While you might had good experiences, that's not constant. That's why people may regard emulation as kinda jank after certain point.

>>9234803
Collectorfag cope, that's all it is. it shits all over your consoles and you have to justify your shit purchases. sad.

>>9234781
They say a collection is a monument to one's inability to connect with mankind

>>9234804
theres youtube videos from 2010 running it fine, you need to check a couple of settings for it to work. look on the wiki.
it's not jank, just look up settings next time and dont be a retard.
>saturn emulation
there is a way to get GUI for Mednafen, which is probably what you used. use Retroarch and download the saturn beetle core. run it off of there next time.

>>9234708
Which SNES games suffer from those problems?

Complaining about emulation "innacury" or "lag" in 2022 like it's still 2002 is just showing how much cope and tech illiteracy collectorfags really have.

It's 2022, you can do whatever the hell you want with emulation. I emulate all my NES games on my computer using an actual NES pad, and I have a CRT with an AV Famicom and an everdrive sitting right next to me. Configured properly, there is literally no difference, and that's without mentionning run ahead.

If I wanted I could even emulate those NES games with my NES pad on that CRT making it exactly the same; but also introducing overclocking and no sprite limit thus making it objectively better.

The only thing collectorfags are allowed to cling to is that 1% of things that can't be emulated

>>9233157
If you can get all of the consoles/flashcarts/accessories you want at the price you want, then by all means do so, but MiSTer is probably a cheaper option if you want more than two consoles. It absolutely is if you want something rare like Neogeo.

>>9234819
Nah, I know that game doesn't have much issues, and no one would've translated it if it run badly period. I have wii hacked to play it on anyway, I was just testing things with emulator. I did try every possible setting and whatever I could find on google, didn't help.
Just saying that weird shit like that happens, and current emulation is no absolute solution. It's very good solution nonetheless despite shortcomings it has.
Other stuff Dolphin emulates fine, I even used it to play MLB Pros online.

I can deal with no GUI, just was funny that Mednafen has none despite being pretty damn good and working quite well even with Parsec where GUI can freak out, played thru it online coop with friend, had tons of fun.
Retroarch can go fuck itself, it's a horrible piece of software. I honestly way more put off by it than by any command line emulation there is.
At least command line makes sense.

>>9234809
>Collectorfag cope, that's all it is. it shits all over your consoles and you have to justify your shit purchases. sad.
Collectorfags can sell and turn a profit at any time. Why would they have to cope?
>>9234826
>Which SNES games suffer from those problems?
Audio lag? All of them. Input lag? Most of them

>>9234848
Collectorfags don't sell because they're compulsive hoarders, not rational actors.

>>9232849
When I got a bootleg CD in 1999 that had NESticle and some GB emulator with hundreds of games and hentai jpgs.

But I also have flashcarts and ODEs now.

>>9234857
good answer is always "both"
people engaging in some sort of holy war which is better is endless sort of amusement

>>9232849
You do realize you can play on real hardware and a CRT and just mod all your consoles to run games from microSD cards, hard drives and burned discs? No need to waste any money on the games.
But this is 100% a superior experience than emulation. Emulation is rarely perfectly accurate. Also if you use save states, you did not beat the game.

>>9234835
https://github.com/AmatCoder/mednaffe

>>9234970
yea this one works with games but glitches out with parsec

>>9232849
>When did you take the emulationpill?
Uh, when did ZSNES come out? A couple years after that, I was already emulating by the year 2000.

>>9232864
Nah, the N64 is this wierd anomaly where basically every system before and after it emulates better than it does.

>>9234496
Emulation is better because I don't have to pay anything for it. I couldn't get a better deal outside of stealing a physical copy.
>inb4 poorfag cope
I can easily afford games, the question is why pay for something when you can simply not do so?

I was around 14 or so, my friend told me about it. But I live in Brazil, no one pays for shit here if a torrent or dd exists.

>>9234647
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
The final year

i have emulation available on my hdtv through various means but across the room theres a crt with flashcarts and shit. I have no reason not to play on og hardware outside of romhacks. I'll even prefer a 64 port over a pc one just because it runs the same way everytime and I know other people played this instance of the game.

When I realised the jewery of the second hand marketplace. What sealed the deal was blind-testing a friend who swears by original hardware on emulation vs original through a CRT screen. He couldn't tell even on his favourite game despite insisting he would be able to

>>9232849
when I was able to get a pack of 600 NES games in one pack I was sold on emulation, the ability to play so many games without the original hardware was pretty mind blowing at the time. And even today, the fact that you can emulate Demon's Souls at 60FPS (a ps3 can't do this) or even current Switch games better than the native hardware, is pretty amazing.

even though my PC can run new AAA games at 1440/144fps, emulators are still a notable amount of my game time. A good game is a good game, new or old.

>>9233045
I have a 12700 and a 3070 and I still like playing emulator games, you don't HAVE to play only 2022 games.

>>9234169
Is launchbox worth using? I've been using playnite, but the launchbox box art collection seems pretty good.

>>9232849
>When did you take the emulationpill?

Probably 2001. I was downloading SNES ROM's in 2001 from random geocities websites via a 56k modem. It would take like 5-10 minutes to download each ROM. Then I got into genesis emulation with Genecyst and even Virtual game Station and PS1 games.

>>9232849
>I did when I realized collecting games and being autistic over playing "authetically" was a complete waste of time

The moment that my copy of Snatcher could sell for about $1000.00.

>>9234496
Sick bait.

>>9232849
Zsnes back in good old 1998

>>9234630
Burger living in the south actually

>>9232849
>reject modernity
>embrace tradition

>>9234784
GLideN64 didn't get actually good and worth using over Glide64 until a few years ago, and even then we now have Angrylion Plus and ParaLLEl-RDP, which are even better. Only reason to use GLideN64 over those is it's faster at high resolutions and it can use widescreen hacks and custom textures and shit, if you're into those.

>>9234983
When will this "hurr durr N64 emulation is bad" meme end? It's not 2012 anymore. It admittedly took a while, but N64 emulation is finally better than PS2 and arguably GameCube and Wii. You just gotta use up-to-date emulators with the right plugins. Sure, it still has a couple of problematic games, but the 6th-gen consoles are worse in this regard.

>>9235781
Can I finally play Pokémon Stadium while using my save file from RBY GB emulators?

I tried every single solution offered by the internet for that and it either plain didn't work or crashed after a short while.

>>9235783
Yes

>>9235745
Nah. Enjoy paying out the ass and having your save files get wiped randomly.

>>9235789
Okay, neat

>>9232849
I bought the games when they were new because there was no other way to play them and I had no idea emulators were coming in the future. Now it's possible to pirate the games, why would I give a single fuck about buying a physical copy at a 1000% markup over the original MSRP?

>>9235791
Cart batteries last 20+ years. Who gives a fuck about saves lasting that long?

>>9235827
That is a horrendous defense, let me help you
>you have to maintain your stuff, battery replacement isn't difficult
>the benefit of playing on original hardware outweighs those issues
>you can always use flashcarts on original hardware if you're concerned about your saves on original carts

>>9232849
i remember being absolutely blown away by the fact that i could play every nintendo game for free in 1996 or 1997 or whenever it was. finding legit working roms for games was a struggle back then, i remember having to navigate tons of sites that were just bullshit or had non-working links or garbage files. and honestly a big part of the appeal was not having to struggle to get the nes games to load by blowing in them and doing all that retarded shit. save states were also a godsend not necessarily to cheat but just for quality of life in games like mario 3 that had no save feature

>>9235853
>in 1996 or 1997 or whenever it was.

Pretty sure it was 1998

Long ago, when saw epsxe improvements. Also like retextures and hd mods

>>9235789
Can I do this with everdrive 64? Play pokemon yellow on my emulation handheld and then transfer the save into the 64 somehow?

>>9235870
No. At best, you could forcibly edit your save to have your teams as saved teams.

>>9234116
>he would always treat me like another adult
that's called grooming, anon

>>9235878
thanks, s'what i figured

>>9234116
>be me
>be Dutch as fuck
>Americans keep talking about coffee shops
>instantly assume it's some degenerate weed place
>assume anon got groomed
>realize it's a shop where people actually buy coffee
Wew. Almost thought you got molested.

>>9235903
> not smoke weed
Such loser

>>9235856
There was some unplayable jank in 1996, Nesticle was out in 1997. It was the first one that actually worked well but there were still a lot of glitches in the first few releases.

>>9234506
enjoy your multiple frames of audio delay lol

>>9236056
Why would you lie on the internet?

>>9235452
it used to be godlike when it was $20 for a lifetime license, now its just too expensive and the free version looks kinda meh even though it has most of the same features.

Currently playing Codename Tenka on my Series X

>>9236046
>nesticle
yeah that was definitely the first one i remember using, the icon was picrel and it made emulation to me seem even more edgy as in my mind i was already "hacking video games"

My dad had told me he read about some way to play games on the PC, I was fascinated because I found out it was the only way to play some stuff that never came out in the US.

Shit was so cash but it was tough getting stuff to run fast on my 486. Back then the best choices were Nesticle, Gencyst, and ZSNES.

As I upgraded computers, my emulator choices got better. I still have legit copies of my favorites but will emulate over playing the real copies.

Physical hardware is always going to be better and it's a massive cope to claim otherwise. You can tell it's a cope as these emulation backers will say ahit like "collectors" as if that's a bad thing like a vegan insulting a meat eater for preferring a medium rare steak to an impossible burger patty.

>>9236046
>>9236079
I love going back to those really, really old emulators just to see if they fuck shit up. They actually were surprisingly compatible pretty early on (shit like SNES special chip games nonwithstanding, of course), but every once in a while you had games that were thoroughly broken. Here's a good example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-grxQ2y71o

>>9236157
>Physical hardware is always going to be better
nes hardware literally doesnt work, i couldnt get half my games to work 20 years ago let alone today

>>9236071
He's right. Software emulation has audio lag

>>9236318
>>9236056
I can get audio lag as low as around 6ms on my setup.

>>9236323
And as high as?

>>9236314
>nes hardware literally doesnt work, i couldnt get half my games to work 20 years ago let alone today
I pop my game in and it works with no problems. Maybe you should take better care of your stuff? Clean the dust off it when it gets dirty, use the proper power supply, and don't blow your fucking spit in it if there's a little dust on the pins.

As for the NES specifically, NoA is a retarded marketing firm that decided to resign a perfect console to make it so that the link connector will get damaged through normal use. Either repair it, get a top loader, or buy the actual console and not your American baby toy.

Emulation is acceptable on my desktop up to PS3, then things get a bit sketchy.
Glitch here and there I can shrug off, but if it's constant or really pulls me away, I can't deal.
Like the map bug on Twilight Princess. I had beaten every other Zelda about five times but I had only beaten TP once because of the glitchy fucking map.
It's fixed now and yeah it was playable before but it was such an eyesore.
And the missing sky on Burnout 3, don't even.

>>9233956
You just proved his point. It doesn't matter if you have three houses and a vacation cabin by the lake, if you're even flinching at buying the superior product then you're poor, relatively speaking. Old video games aren't that expensive, even on the extreme high end of things. Choosing the inferior version because it's free is the mark of being poor.

t. gutterpunk

>>9236719
this would make sense if it was actually the inferior product most of the time, when in reality it's 9 times outta 10 the same thing, arguably better due to romhacking but that mostly depends on the effort of the romhacking community of xyz game

>>9236729
Superiority had nothing to do with it. Buying things is a sign of wealth, not buying things is a sign of poverty. I'm sure you'll eventually accept that there's no shame in looking poor.

>>9235745
>jurassic park
>lion king
Not only are you paying top dollar for boxed copies of old games, but your spending all that money on cash grab movie tie in games?

>>9235791
This. With emulation I don't lose my saves AND I can save at any point if I really want to. And transferring those saves to another device is trivially easy. Its perfect.

>>9232849
I've been emulating games since I was like 7 years old looking for NES and SNES games

>>9235834
That's what I'm saying. Losing saves to a cart battery dying that takes ten minutes to replace once every ten years isn't worth worrying about.

i really started playing emulator games again when i found out about retroa chievements and yes i know its fucking stupid but it kind of gives me another reason to play older games and the fact that companies like sony/nintendo dont bother to add community based stuff like achievements and online play to older games kinda sucks

>>9236903
>achievements
Yikes. Do you also post a picture of every meal you eat on Facebook? You know there use to be a time when people would discover tech in video games and keep it secret so they held an advantage over the competition. With the internet this is much harder to do but at the same time secret tech is displayed sometimes on yiutube and still nobody can figure out how it is performed.

>emulating on PC while outputting to a CRT

>>9234057
>but for me, even the ritual of removing the disc from the case, placing it in the system, closing the lid, etc. is all part of the fun. The entire process of reading through the intructions, reading over the label, handling the disc... that's all integral to the experience for me

>>9237179
around 2000/2001 I had a pentium 120 with a crappy video card that had composite out hooked to a crappy 19" crt that I did my emulation on

>>9232849
I took the pill once I realized emulation meant I can play just about anything on my phone hooked up to a controller. Up to GC, PS2, all PSP and NDS, most 3DS games work well enough for me to not care about accuracy. I spend time actually playing the games instead of being autistic about the consoles themselves.

>>9236719
>>9236740
I don't understand. Are retro games really that expensive or do you just assume people who emulate live under the poverty line and can only afford food and toilet paper?

Seriously, explain this to me. I understand that being a collector costs a lot of money, but there are many people like myself who get zero satisfaction out of collecting stuff. Is it that hard to accept others have different needs?

Compare it to audiophilia. There are people who spend 1000s of euros on the perfect sound equipment. Are people who use a standard headphone to listen to music on Spotify automatically poor? Of course not. It's all about your needs as a person. I barely hear the difference between FLAC and MP3, but audiophiles can pin point the exact moment where they hear a 'disturbance' of some sort.

You have a talented eye for extreme detail. Be proud of it. Others do not have this talent, like me, and for us spending a lot of money on retro video games just seems like a waste. I know the word 'autism' is used here a lot but real autists would ever have the urge to post on the internet, so you're not one of them. You're simply someone who is able to spot extreme detail in sensory experience, which most people are incapable of.

The entire emulation vs original hardware boils down to this. The superiority complex is rude, but justified at the same time. I'm too much of a barbarian to appreciate the difference between good wine and cheap wine. Sure, I'll taste it and be like "wow this is nice", but that it. Not worth my money.

>>9237505
>would ever
would never*

>>9237505
This argument is flawed though because you're assuming real hardware is automatically superior, that you just don't notice it.
You don't notice it because it's not. It's not a MP3/FLAC thing.

>>9237506
Faggot

>>9232849
2 years ago when I ran out of PC games to play

>>9232864
Citra on the cellphone is pretty good.

>>9237060
Gotta get those cheevos>>9237060

>>9234169
Pretty much this. I had a PS2 eat a save on a game. I was kinda pissed. Just emulated it, no problem, plus graphical enhancements and modern Bluetooth controller.

>>9237583
Most games I tried run like shit

>>9237602
Your phone is shit. Don't take it personal but you will need an appropriate specced phone. A flagship phone is overkill but will do the job. Just look at the suggested specifications.

>>9237612
Some games run poorly even on my PC and some don't even start

>>9237614
don't bother, people assume since it work for them it'll work for anyone.

>>9237623
Or just hit the forums for the emulator. Filtered indeed.

>>9237627
I'm aware that prime past time of people who worship emulation is tinkering to get games to work on whatever. Not playing games.
I wasn't talking to you anyway.

>>9237634
Heh, no u.

>>9232849
I don't obsess about authenticity. I just like hardware. Repair and modding has become more fun than the actual playing of games. Can't emulate that.

I've never been opposed to emulation, but I did sell all my retro vidya this year. I kept consoles, controllers, hardware, but offloaded all my games. Even the mid-size town I live in has like four retro game stores in it now, it just seems like the market is super flooded with demand. Something will happen with the retro market in the next few years, but I can't decide if Gamestop will really double-down on the retro side of their business or if platform holders will start taking their deeper catalogs seriously. I honestly think it could be GameStop. Imagine all of the previously unseen retro stock that would come into a GameStop. In the US at least, I've always been of the mind that a high percentage of games never re-enter the market, and they just sit in a basement somewhere forever. We've all been peeing in the same pool forever, and I think a (fading/faded) major retailer getting in front of people with this could cause an influx of old games to hit shelves the second time--but for the first time.

Anyway no matter what happens, in retro, it's easy to make the market go up but it only takes time---and a LOT of it---coupled with slow sales/limited interest to make prices dip. I'm not convinced that these prices only go up, because the NES market has been stagnating or depreciating since 2013, but once a precedent is set, it's hard to tamp it back down. I collected video games for years and preferred clean copies CIB when possible but didn't pay too much attention because my MO was to play games and then play them again later. There's always been a list of games that I was going to forever be priced out of, because I'm just unwilling to pay several hundred dollars for a copy of a video game. Doesn't matter how much money I have in the bank, I will never be able to will myself into buying Tron Bonne or something without wanting to puke. That list kept growing. So I went the mod/everdrive route.

It just seemed like a money pit that was never going to stop. When I first started out, there was an entire world of really great video games that could be had across several platforms and eras for under $25 a pop, but I started feeling like a dumbass ponying up $30/40/50 bucks for games and just saw that there was no light at the end of the tunnel. Either I started paying the piper more to get less, or I stuck to my guns, which would eventually lead to driving home with a $3 dollar copy of Boogie for the PS2, scraping my belly on the bottom of the barrel looking for something to appreciate.

As you can imagine--it's pretty easy to scoff at a $300 everdrive when I was already scoffing at a $60 dollar copy of Mister Mosquito, but it was pretty cheap in the end to mod my PS2, PS1, Dreamcast, and Wii/GCN. It will kinda suck dick to finally buy those expensive-ass everdrives but at least it's worth it in the end, and I can play whatever I want forever, when I want to, on original hardware with a controller in my hand. It will cost me $1300 dollars in total to mod my console library, I had probably spent 3K in the last few years just to have an earnest smattering of games across gens.

>>9232849
When did you take the who cares what other faggot virgins do pill? Is emulation or collection better for the virgin? The truth is, if you argue over this, then you have never came on a girls face who wanted it. Such is life. Collection > emulation any day.

>>9238204
>vidya game collector calls other people virgins

>>9232947
I'd argue that. Dolphin is good but they're a couple games I've played with slowdown and glitches that didn't have that on the console itself. The GameCube side of things however seem great

>>9238218
Still not a virgin, dont care, you are triggered.

>>9235827
he said randomly, yes some snes had finicky cart systems that would wipe your saves randomly, even N64 systems would do this, as much as I love "tradition" playing long ass RPG's was truly the riskiest thing even on snes where they even fixed the "save reset" issue (yes the one final fantasy mentioned when saving) even the fixes didnt fix the entire problem, but hey w/e maybe my brother or family members could be wiping my saves randomly but I've had a few times when I switched carts and it would fullblown wipe my saves out of the blue for no freakking reason, if anything play RPG's on emulators or if u must have crts use a Wii

>>9237189
Cleatrly an autist who things going through the tedious "ritual" is important every single time

>>9237189
Cleatrly an autist who thinks going through the tedious "ritual" is important every single time

>>9237189
not an argument but i accept your concession

Sometime around 2012/2013 when I realized that lugging consoles/cartridges around and hooking them up to my TV via coax was a pain in the dick.
I recently sold all my SNES games because I realized they had been sitting on the shelf untouched for 5+ years. I still have my NES/Gen games but only because none of them are really worth much at all.

>>9234057
Based

>>9232849
I was 15 years old in 2001, and overheard my classmates talking about it. I was never allowed console games growing up, only ever having played at friend's or family's home, so the topic was enticing.

Once they explained how to find emulators and roms, I got home and right to it. My little brother and I only shared one computer, but I took up a lot of time searching and downloading games, starting with NES.

My brother got really frustrated by my hogging the computer, so I downloaded his favorite game, Super Mario Bros 3. I then asked him to "come test this thing I found".

At first he was stunned. Then he asked if it was the full game and not a PC demo. Then his eyes lit up and asked "can you get MORE?"

We sent that evening listing and downloading ALL the games we never got to have: NES, SNES, Sega, PS1, arcade... all the way up the then current games for GBA. It was a great bonding experience. We also learned how organize and manage Windows directories.

Even though we can afford to buy whatever we want now, we still keep up with current emulation for the novelty and talk about it together.

>>9237505
The point that I'm making is that unless you have "fuck you" money, you're poor. You hate to be equated to bums pissing themselves in the street, but fact is you're much closer to them than you are to the actually wealthy.

>I understand that being a collector costs a lot of money
No it doesn't. Video game collecting is on the lower end of collection hobbies. You said it yourself, Hi-Fi is way more expensive. Classic cars are far more expensive. If you think classic video game collecting is an expensive hobby, you are poor. Relatively speaking.

>Are people who use a standard headphone to listen to music on Spotify automatically poor? Of course not.
Ads present - very poor
Ad free - less poor (but still poor).
Streaming services - aka not even owning the media you consume - is peak poor

Get this - there's no shame in associating with "the poors" because you will never get into an exclusive country club where your worth is determined by the image you display. It's more than likely that you use the same mass transit systems everyone else does, you shop from the same chain stores, you eat from the same chain supermarkets as most everyone else. This only proves that there is no reason for you to try and impress others with impressive collections or highly configured emu setups because you're only impressing yourself at the end of the day. It's all mass produced for mass consumption. It's inherently lower class.

I collect what I give a damn about, and emulate everything else. Asserting you have a superior setup just for the sake of your self worth is a demonstration of the insecurity you feel for being lower class, whether you want to admit it or not. I personally find strength in acknowledging how collecting and emulating games will always inherently be lower class, because I'm not deluding myself into believing I'm superior for the way I choose to execute programs on consumer electronics. It's all posturing.

I think I'll play Jet Set Radio today.

>>9238317
This nigga knows what's up.

>>9238317
Ok

>>9238317
>>9238636
You sound extremely insecure. I make 6 figures and have 150K in crypto. You're just a brain dead consumer who needs to justify himself to himself because you're obsessed with others opinions about you.

>>9238647
Don't care, project harder

STOP USING HARDWARE.
LAST TIME WARNING. OR ELSE.

>>9234487
Yes you are

>>9238778
>implying I need you
Sad

>>9232849
I've been emulating since '97 or 98.
My computer at the time couldn't do transparency effects in Zsnes which was usually a minor inconvenience but there was a part in Chrono Trigger in which the whole screen is covered with clouds(pollution I think actually) on the overworld and I wasn't able to progress any more. I've never gone back to play it since then, lol.

A similar thing happened in, I think it was Illusion of Gaia-- a tile was supposed to glow on the floor and it wouldn't show up. I stepped on every tile and nothing happened. I got soft-locked somehow and I never went back to that game.
The Genesis emulator I used back then would open with a loud THUMP sound effect that I would forget about every time and it would scare the living shit out of me.

>>9232849
A combination of things.
Some of my games had started to get bit rot.
Then I realized how stupid it was to have a huge collection of stuff worth so much money sitting around just collecting dust.

I sold my collection but still had the consoles and would buy games still, but it really wasnt until I found out about retroachievements that I went pure emulation for retro games.

>>9232864
>>9232874
>>9232953
>>9233051
>>9233157
>>9234496
>>9236157
>>9236318
>>9236719
>>9236729
>>9236740
>>9238317
>>9239195
N64 works fine now
Saturn works good now
Dreamcast plays better than the real thing
Ps2 is fine
Gamecube and wii emulate better than the real thing
Psp is better than the real thing
Ds is better than the real thing
3ds is rapidly becoming better than the real thing, but still a WIP

Better than real

>>9240186
>Dreamcast plays better than the real thing
>no VMU simultaneous emulation or minigame downloading
I'm pressing X to doubt.

>>9240186
>3ds is rapidly becoming better than the real thing, but still a WIP
Unless they're working on implementing the actual 3D effect for games on it, it's never going to be as good as the real thing. Yes, you are a massive monkeypox addict if you dislike the 3D effect on 3DS games.

>>9240186
>Ds is better than the real thing
Does mic functionality or Download Play work?

>>9232849
when i got my first pc in like 2003

>>9240191
Emulation does support vmu, why don't you try using Google before you run your mouth you fucking idiot.
>>9240193
Hahaha shut the fuck up fag nobody cares about the 3d effect.
>>9240195
Probably, not that i can think of a single fucking game where id want it. Lmao. The fucking straws you fags grasp at.

Basically when it started. When I saw I could try games before buying them if I liked them.
It was basically a demo system for me, before the concept of "playable demo" even existed.

Also, I don't have much money, so any penny counts in my entertainment.

>>9240231
>It was basically a demo system for me, before the concept of "playable demo" even existed.

Playable demos have existed for at least half a decade before emulation

>>9240230
>Emulation does support vmu
Cool. Explain to us how you plug a vmu into a keyboard then.

>>9235403
How can this be a blind test if you were using different displays? I would like to see blind side by side of fpga vs emulation vs original hardware on an oled and crt, that would be cool

>>9240190
as much emulation improves 3D, disparity it introduces between 2D and 3D assets is always a sad sight to see

>>9240282
You emulate the vmu too you retard.

Not that there's anything worth emulating other than some in game messages. Grasping at straws again.

>>9240186
personally i prefer wii and ds/3ds on real hardware, unlike systems with normal controllers it really doesn't feel the same to me because the games that make good use of their controls are completely different on normal controllers
games that barely make use of such though are fine

>>9240376
you can pretty easily hook up a Wii remote to Dolphin and have the best of both worlds, not sure how people still don't know this.

>>9240376

>>9232849
ps1 emulation was hot garbage for a very long time until duckstation came along (mednafen was ok i guess). ps2 is still shit and is built upon hacks upon hacks for it to work. funny thing is, i'm pretty sure sony's ps2 emulator for the ps4/ps5 works off of similar code for pcsx2, since they have similar issues

>>9240414
Ps1 has worked great for over a decade, you're retarded.

>>9240413
>Lookin' Bad

>>9232849
I emulate stuff 16-bit and below, but I also play everything on a CRT and for everything else it's real hardware.
It's not autism, real hardware is objectively the way these things were meant to be played.

>>9238751
>write an entire novel how people who buy used plastics containing games for children are somehow superior in society because as everyone knows, a retro collection is just as much a status object as a sports car
>d-d-d-don't care
Okay buddy boy

You know what's the best argument against this? Women. Do they want to fuck you because of your retro game collection? Nope, on the contrary. So it's not a sign of wealth. Period

>>9232849
9 y/o in 2000, playing Diablo 2 with a friend down the street and then he booted up zsnes and showed me hundreds of snes and nes games. Played Little Nemo Dreammaster. Absolutely mindfucked me and I've been emupilled ever since

>>9240531
Nah.

>>9240186
It speaks volumes that it's not good enough for others to not fully accept your stance
>>9240230
>I can't think of a single game where I'd want it
It's required for Nintendogs, not to mention the numerous mic implementations for various games (Cooking Mama series, Feel the Magic/ Rub Rabbits, Professor Layton series, GTA Chinatown Wars, Lost in Blue series, Hotel Dusk and Last Window, Fossil Fighters series, even the simple implementation for Personal Trainer: Cooking is super useful for not making your DS all dirty)

And if you can't think of one game where download play would be helpful, you're clearly not even bothering to think of any because there's tons. Think of any multiplayer game where someone may not have a game card and it likely had download play implementation.
>Mario Kart DS, Diddy Kong Racing DS
>Mario Party DS
>Metroid Prime Hunters
>Bomberman (up to 8 players)
>Custom Robo Arena
>Worms: Open Warfare (and 2)
>Sonic Rush
>Elite Beat Agents/OSU! Tatakae! Ouendan!
>NSMB and SM64DS
>Jam with the Band
>DQH: Rocket Slime
>LoZ: Phantom Hourglass
>Puyo Pop Fever (also up to 8 players)
Just a sample of fantastic multiplayer download play games.

>>9240195
Mic functionality works. Dont know what download play is. Guessing dlc? Half that shit is on cartridge already and is easily unlocked with the built in cheat engine

>>9240282
Retard

>>9240364
It's kind of neccesary for games that used the VMU to display player info (Sega Sports NFL series, Sonic Shuffle, Dino Crisis, Super Magnetic Neo, Ready 2 Rumble, etc.) not to mention the minigames and apps you can use while the system is turned off. Kinda defeats the purpose if you can't take the thing with you. You're missing out on content and calling it sour grapes kek

>>9240603
Except you can have it displayed on screen and play the shitty pointless little games with connectivity also. No content is being missed.

>>9240595
Just read on download play and it seems redundant if both sides can have the game rom at the same time with no hassle.

>>9240583
Hahahaha are you really this much of a raging fucking faggot? Cooking Mama? Nintendogs?

Jesus christ kill yourself you fucking troon, nobody plays that shit. Btw, all of today can be done with a single button press, because the DS mic only measured volume. You'd know this if you ever made an attempt or had a 3 digit IQ. You're clearly some discount weirdo freak troon getting defensive over your toys while playing little girl games. What a fucking joke.

>download play
1) You have no friends
2)YOU CAN JUST EMULATE MULTIPLE COPIES OF THE GAMES YOU FUCKING IDIOT. THERE'S LITERALLY NO FUCKING POINT IN USING DOWNLOAD PLAY.

Lmao you're the dumbest fucking person on /vr/ atm

>>9240603
How many fucking times do you need to be told that it works?

>>9240614
Download Play was honestly pretty great back then. Played lots of Mario Kart with random people that way back then

>>9240623
Who cares.
You can emulate the whole fucking game.

>>9232849
I grew up playing emulated games, so as I grew up and had my own income I spent a bit of it on collecting consoles that some of my favorite games came from. I genuinely prefer playing all of this stuff on my CRT with the actual console. I don't really emulate stuff all that often anymore aside from games for old PCs. I especially never got the appeal of emulating games on my phone because while I could, see no reason why I would want to play Metal Gear Solid or Ocarina of Time outside of my house.

>>9240624
On a 3DS, sure, but emulating DS games on anything else is a little clunkier than I would like in my experience. Plus you kinda didn't read my post at all and just sound like you're eager to sperg out about something right now.

>>9240623
No ones discounting your memories bro. Just saying it isnt needed in the environment presented. Now you can play the same games with those frienda online at any time.

>>9240638
Of course, but I felt the need to share what it actually was since anon thought it was DLC.

>>9240557
>Literally said that game collecting and emulating are of the same value socially
>Emufags still think they're being spoken down to because of their latent insecurity
It becomes even sadder when I mention I met my commonlaw wife through our mutual interest in Sega Saturn collecting. She bought Panzer Dragoon Saga just because she likes the series. Stop allowing your impoverished mentality from robbing you of your happiness. Speaking of which,
>>9240616
>Ignores 90% of listed games
Friendless seething much?
>Little girl games
>Metroid Prime Hunters, Worms: Open Warfare, Bomberman, etc
It's like you're trying to convince yourself you aren't missing out. What a terrible console to emulate, the entire draw of the system was taking it out to play with your friends. The fact you said
>YEAH WELL YOURE FRIENDLESS
really says everything, doesn't it?

The fact you have to do multi-card play on a single computer really highlights how much you're missing the point

>>9240609
The whole point of the VMU games was the ability to take it anywhere you wanted. Until you can find an app for a smartphone that can interface with an emulator on a computer, you really are missing out on its intended purpose.

>>9240640
>The fact you have to do multi-card play on a single computer really highlights how much you're missing the point
Yeah, reading that shit make me feel bad too.

>>9240639
Oh yea that was me correcting myself but i guess theres no way to really see that.

>>9240646
Meh. Anytime i leave the house i got shit to do. Not much time for gaming outside the house anymore. More power to you though if you take a vmu on the bus.

>>9240653
>He can't take five minutes to play a short game in his downtime
No wonder you're so uptight.

>>9240669
I dont typically like to use my time like that, no. That 5 minutes is usually better spent ripping a bowl and bracing to head back into work. Or at the very least playing something more engaging than chao minigames.

>>9240680
>He works while high
And you call me a manchild, kek

>>9240714
You ever do roofing (or any outdoor work) in 100+ degree heat? The whole crew lights up. Didnt call you a manchild either but your use of kek amd the way youre still fuming at whatever anon did definitely has me thinking it now. You wanna grasp at straws more or get back on topic?

>>9240741
Getting stoned at work sounds like anti-fun to me, but I also don't work outside in the heat. I've also found as I've gotten older that getting stoned in general just isn't anywhere near as enjoyable as it used to be

>>9240640
>It becomes even sadder when I mention I met my commonlaw wife through our mutual interest in Sega Saturn collecting.
Yeaaaa I wasn't talking about those type of women...

>>9240748
It definitely feels like obligation at this point. I dont try to delude myself like most do

>>9240756
I feel you. It's unreal how casually people will walk around tooting on THC vapes all day, every day.

>>9240741
>The whole crew is irresponsible
Noted.
>get back on topic?
You're the one that brought up not having time to play a short game. The topic was playing short games during downtime, and you took that as an invitation to mention that you get high at work and "at the very least play something more engaging" while not naming specifics.

Furthermore, the whole point of the VMU games is to not be a complete time suck. It's supposed to be passive. Again, you've missed the point entirely.

>>9240573
Fuck you.

>>9240573
I agree with the other guy. Fuck you.

>>9240637
I did read your whole post, it's fucking dumb. You don't need download play when you just emulate the whole fucking game, and nobody else has a ds anyway faggot. You're grasping at straws and it's retarded. You can emulate ds using a phone perfectly, with optional gamepad. 99% of GOOD ds games are pure stylus or pure gamepad.

>>9240751
Tell me you're lonely without telling me you're lonely. I'm sure you're a hit with the ladies lmfao

>>9240774
What is wrong with you?

>>9240640
Most people emulate ds on phone. Onus again you show your a fucking retard who doesn't know anything.

And again, the mic is supported. How many times does it need repeated you fucking faggot? So your whole list is moot.

>>9240763
Yea whoever called you a manchild was spot on. I wanna buy that man a beer

>>9240774
>Nobody else has a DS anyway
Sour grapes much?
>The Nintendo DS product line are the best-selling handheld consoles, selling 154.02 million units worldwide.
Kek

>>9240646
Alnost no game used it. Im not interested in your tomagachi shit. I had a vmu as a kid and sonic adventure made the best use of it, so couldn't hold my attention.

That said, there's a fucking vmu emulator. So you're wrong. USE GOOGLE YOU STUPID FUCK.

>>9240774
>>9240782
>You don't need download play when you just emulate the whole fucking game, and nobody else has a ds anyway faggot.
>Most people emulate ds on phone.
I just can not begin to understand the kind of person that writes this shit. Are you under 25 and autistic, or over 25 and extremely autistic?

>>9240770
>>9240765
Nah. Your original hardware is inferior trash. The devs didn't create all these details hoping they'd never be seen. You don't even fucking know how game design works. Modelers make shit and then are often dissapointed by how the system displays it.

You've been wrecked in every thread and you're gonna keep getting wrecked

>>9240786
Pretty sure youre misreading context, possibly intentionally. Seemed to me he was saying download play isnt needed when everyone would be emulating and no one (who is emulating the game together) is using a ds. Of course i cant infer his intentions but it seems you were desperate for something to jump on.

>>9240792
No, anon. You are wrong and I dislike you.

>>9240786
Bitch i had 2, a decade ago. I gave them away once phones were able to emulate them. They're worthless. I don't know 1 single person who still has one.


Funny enough, emulators probably support download play anyway. I think i remember drastic mentioning it. Cringe faggot.

>>9240790
Just take the L and move on retard. It takes zero effort to emulate DS on phone and have it look and play superior to the original hardware.

>>9240798
You can't possibly be convicted enough about this to spend your free time arguing in favor of emulating DS games on phones on /vr/, so I have to ask: why? Why spend your time posting like this? I know the simplest answer is to get replies, but surely there has to be something more there? You can't really be this two-dimensional, can you? How long have you been doing this for?

>>9240805
>today on dr phil

>>9240796
You have no counter argument, because you're a butthurt fucking loser who wasted his money on rotting plastic. You're butthurt and grasping at straws. You payed an that money and wasted all that time, just to walk away inferior. Now the cognitive dissonance is burning inside. Sad.

Have fun playing nintendogs and your vmu tomagachi like a creep.

>>9240782
Lmao retard
>>9240230
>not that i can think of a single fucking game where id want (a mic)
>Proceeds to list games where you would want a mic
>"yeah well, uh, those games are for girls!! faggot"
Feel the Magic/Rub Rabbits is decidedly not for girls. Well, unless they're lesbian kek. Just as one example.

Anyway, I said that download play doesn't work and that multi card play only works on a single host PC which completely defeats the purpose of portable system multiplayer. There is no app that allows multi-card play. Lrn2read

>>9240807
I'm legit concerned for anon! I can't tell where the poster ends and the posts begin. Their mind sounds like an exhausting place to be.

>>9240805
You can't possibly be convicted enough about this to spend your free time arguing in favor of the original DS hardware on /vr/, so I have to ask: why? Why spend your time posting like this? I know the simplest answer is that you're a mentally ill faggot, but surely there has to be something more there? You can't really be this two-dimensional, can you? How long have you been doing this for? How long will you live in denial?

You seem to think this board is your dedicated club for crt autists and ds faggots, but 90% of the users here just emulate. So you sound cringier with each post.

>>9240810
I both dislike you and pity you. Your posts are very bad.

>>9240805
Lmao what a fag

>>9240821
>>9240828
bro lol

>>9240812
You can play multiplayer on drastic. Learn to read.

The mic is supported. Learn to read.

>>9240805
Stop posting cringe

>>9240838
Hey, you waited over a minute this time. Nice job anon

>>9240787
There's a VMU emulator for Dreamcast, and it even has homebrew. Take your own advice
>>9240794
There are no emulators where you can play multi card unless you're using a single host PC, which is missing the entire point of portable system multiplayer. You seem to think there are emulators on phones that allow this: There aren't.
>>9240797
>I don't know 1 single person who still has one
So the people you gave your DSes to would cease to exist once you've given them your DSes? It's like you're trying to ignore the fact that these systems are so common that you can buy them for next to nothing and have a huge library of games to pick from.
>emulators probably support download play anyway. I think i remember drastic mentioning it
More weasel words, kek. I looked into it, the only way to do it is on a single host PC, which again, is missing the whole point of portable system multiplayer.
>>9240798
Still can't do multiplayer, which was literally half the draw of the system. It was the reason all my PSP owning friends were jealous of the DS group I would play with, because we had tons of great games to play together.

>>9240845
Huh?

>>9240834
No you can't.
>DraStic is only intended for play of private backups of legally acquired games. This product is not affiliated with or endorsed by the company that made the handheld it emulates in any way. Do not ask us for ROMs or help getting them - any request will be ignored.

>NOTE: WiFi/multiplayer emulation is not supported at this time.
Literally denying reality

>>9240848
You can do multiplayer. Learn to read retard. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Its easier to play multi player via emulation than expecting people to still have DS's. Derp.

>>9240848
Im 794 why you putting words in my mouth? I said nothing of the sort. Please keep acting like groups of people are meeting irl to play ds games though. Its funny how you dwell in the past.

>>9240848
You can play multiplayer with retroarch on a phone you idiot. You can even do it with hacked Nintendo switches and chinkhelds. You can mix and match whatever devices you want. Idiot.

>>9240858

Do any of these niggers even play video games?

>>9240856
You can do it on retroarch using the ds core.

What a spastic. Not even the guy you were talking to btw. Use Google next time

>>9240867
Hes right. You could google it for more than 5 minutes yourself if you really wanted to see. Of course no one likea being proven wrong and wont actively work to find that out.

>>9240867
netplay through retroarch with the desmume core

Source :

netplay through retroarch with the desmume core

>>9240868
He plays his vmu at the gender reassignment clinic

>>9240880

>>9240862
I'm not here to play guess who, make your point and we can discuss it. You act like there are no groups ever, which only tells me you never bothered to look. Your loss.
>>9240865
>>9240873
>>9240875
>>9240876
Netplay doesn't work for DS multiplayer. It links multiple instances of retroarch to one emulated system, that isn't how multi card play works at all. I've been looking and have been turning up nothing. If you faggots are so certain, cite your source. I can't prove myself wrong when I can't find anything that disproves what I'm saying.

I'm growing increasingly convinced that setting up emulators and posting about them is the actual game for these people

>>9240858
>>9240865
>>9240873
>>9240875
>>9240876
>Of course no one likea being proven wrong and wont actively work to find that out.
>Of course no one likea being proven wrong and wont actively work to find that out.
>Of course no one likea being proven wrong and wont actively work to find that out.

FUCKING LOL

>>9240906
Letting plastic collect dust is your hobby, it's made obvious western you blabber on about features nobody cares about anymore and we know damn well you don't have some local ds meetup group in 2022 (and if you did, oh God imagine the horror. Fat reddit furries and troons no doubt)

>>9240947
You're talking to the wrong anon retard, fucking kek

>>9240937
Lol I'm sure you're so proud of yourself.

And yet emulation is still supperior. So i guess you can go buy a real ds for local multi player, but in all other cases, emulation is superior.

Btw, i have a 3ds that i haven't touched in 2 fucking years. So if I wanted to do multi player, i could do that. But I don't. There's no multi player games that interest me. Can't think of a single one. Mario kart? Id rather play modded wii or mk8.

But I digress. Go ahead and get a real ds for dedicated multi player, emulation is still supperior in all other cases.

>>9240937
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4eqLXqVjzTU
>this is the only emulator reeeeee
Did the work for you. You could have at least fixed my typo.

Oh god I'm gonna
I'm gonna
I'm gonna
EMULATIOOOOOOOOOON

Forgive me father, for I'm about to
Emuuuulooooooot

>>9240937
MelonDS can do online, I did it with Pokémon. You can even link up an actual DS to the emulator, I did that too.

Anyway not fucking retro.

>>9240971
You know you dont have to upscale and filter the games? It isnt required.

The thought of even touching original hardware makes me puke in my mouth a little

>>9240947
>it's made obvious western you blabber on about features nobody
are you lying in bed and phoneposting, anon? be honest

>>9240963
>"yeah well I was never arguing in good faith anyway"
Almost like you never cared to understand what my point was from the beginning
>I collect what I give a damn about, and emulate everything else. Asserting you have a superior setup just for the sake of your self worth is a demonstration of the insecurity you feel for being lower class, whether you want to admit it or not.
If you care enough to own the system, play it. If you don't care, stop hoarding games and sell it. Fact is, DS emulation will always be half complete until someone gets Wi-Fi emulation working. It'll always be a shell of its former self. Much like some anons I conversed with today...

>>9240979
But it is better
Deal with it fag
Jaggies are gay

>>9240986
Sorry bro thought it was a collector onions talking balls. My bad.

>>9240983
/vr/ has some of the most unhappy people I come across online. It's weird.

>>9240983
There's multiple posts after that, that show you that can emulate wifi.
Keep reading you fucking idiot.

>>9240976
My favourite part of playing portable systems is needing a computer tether

>>9240983
So you ignore the 2 posts showing you wifi emulation works?

>>9240993
Well you see, if you literally never go outside and have no friends it's actually the ideal way to play these games.

>>9240991
Emulation bros are in a state of permanent orgasmic bliss

Collector fags meanwhile have extreme buyers remorse and perform mental gymnastics to justify their purchase

>>9240995
>>9240993
>>9240993
So in this fantasy of yours, you're meeting up with a bunch of people, to play a fucking ds game of all things, in some public setting? Lmao this is never going to fucking happen.

>>9240996
I dont know man, 90 bucks for strange journey and 2 bills for etrian oddyse 3 sounds pretty good to me. I love the shipping charges and possibility of buying a chinese bootleg on top of it too.

Oh god no more...
Please no more...
My balls can only be so empty...
No emulation please...
I'm gonna...
I'm gonna...

HHHHNNNNGGGGG
EMULATIOOOOOOOOOON

Lel@seething hipsters

>>9240996
At least your posts are funny, but the fervor with which some of the people in this thread are posting about emulation is just fucking weird. You might merely be pretending, but some of these people clearly aren't.

Holy shit
Emulatiooon, looks like that!?!?

How much of these games that we're posting screenshots from did you actually play? Be honest.

>>9241025
All of it.
To completion.
I always aim for...

Completion.

>>9241028
I haven't even begun to peak

>>9241038
Make metal saga look good, pls

I pitty Original hardware peasants

>>9240991
Check out /vrpg/ sometime.

I once dumped a girl because I found out she owned original hardware

>>9241051
I'll do that. This is the only video game board I read on here anymore.

emufags on suicide watch! OH NO NO NO!

>>9241059
Wait, youre saying they can take the files out of my hardrive?

>>9240992
It's the documentation page of retroarch, not the desmume forum. If the documentation isn't updated, it's not implemented.

You're clearly thinking of the desmume-reloaded branch, which is lacking compatibility and is effectively proof of concept. But hey, maybe it'll be fully functional in a few years! Then you can go on about the superiority of DS emulation. Until then though, I'll stick with a system that is dirt cheap and is fully compatible.
>>9240994
works != usable
>>9241001
You can plan for other things too, shocking, I know.

It's quite telling how hard you have to convince yourselves that you're not missing out

>>9241059
I own everything

>>9241069
>emufags immediately drop the facade of doing it for convinience and admit theyre just poorfags
NOOO! LOOOOL

>>9241062
Hahaha no convincing necessary. I told you i still own a 3ds. You're never gonna meetup in public with a group to play ds bro lmao. Just ain't gonna happen. It's too gay.

>>9241061
>>9241069
>File or Directory Is Corrupted and Unreadable
Hope you keep backups!

>>9241076
I'm positive I'm richer than you, I'm a land lord

>>9241078
You sound fairly fucking gay yourself, anon. A regular expert on being gay. What are you up to today?

>>9241062

>>9241079
I know how to maintain a hard drive, yea.

>>9241078
>t. Quentin

>>9241079
I do.
>cd has disk rot
>cd drive is dead
>cart diodes are leaking out
>console solder joints have gone bad

I hope you keep backups, oh wait you can't, that would be piracy and you're a fat pussy

>I'm positive I'm richer than you, I'm a land lord

>>9241081
See >>9241085

>>9241093
U mad?

>>9241094
What are you up to today, anon? Is this it?

>>9241085
In case you forgot:
>I collect what I give a damn about, and emulate everything else. Asserting you have a superior setup just for the sake of your self worth is a demonstration of the insecurity you feel for being lower class, whether you want to admit it or not.
Note how I'm not telling anyone they're not allowed to have an inferior experience, because I know that doesn't matter if you don't care about the games enough to own physical copies

EMULATIOOOOOOOOOON

>>9241101
>tell me some things about yourself to help me try and talk some more shit.
Sorry bro youre gonna have to infer blindly

>>9241109
Yikes, that's a sadder answer than anything I could have imagined. You sound very insecure.

>>9241107
>care about the games.
I see now. Games are all you have in life.

>>9241107
My experience is supperior, because the ds has a garbage screen and garbage buttons at a garbage resolution and that was true on launch day

>>9241080
>I need to rip off working class people to feed myself
You must be rolling in it

>>9241110
>uses yikes unironically
>calling anyone else insecure

>>9241115
There's no substance to this reply but here I am replying to it. Yikes, zoinks even! I am wasting my time on this website.

>>9241110
Aw did i do a heckin yikerino? Oh noes.

Emufag here, can someone donate me money so I can buy real hardware please? I’m tired of being an emufag and want to repent to jesus christ!

>>9241116
Only loser troons think they should be allowed to live in another person's house for free. Kill yourself already.

>>9241113
That would have been true 6 years ago, now I have a loving wife that plays games too. It can happen to you!
>>9241114
Funny, I prefer the DS phat because it displays the native resolution. But hey, you would need to upscale it since you're likely playing on a PC monitor or 4K TV. Imagine that, requiring to modify a game just so it's enjoyable again. It's a shame, really.

>>9241116
>the goobermeant should give me free housing so i can buy more children's toys
When the economy collapses, you're going to die.

>>9241126
>It can happen to you!
We both know that isn't true.

>>9241123
Hopefully you never run into a stroke of bad luck and have to consider selling all your shit. Good luck getting anyone to buy if you do.

>>9241124
>I hate you strawman! You are bad!
A man can only sleep under one roof.

Bad Faith: The Thread

>>9241126
Nah I play ds on my superior phone. Native resolution is pure trash. The DS is a garbage system. Only via emulation can you redeem it.

See:
>>9241053
>>9240798

>>9241134
Go buy your own roof then you dumb fucking parasite.

>>9241140
>makes people pay 30% of their income to live in his shitty unmaintained property while he sits on his fatass pirating games all day
I’m pretty sure the parasite is you

>>9241129
>implying I don't own my own house
Cope

>>9241148
anon genuine question: how old are you and how long have you been renting your own place

>>9241140
See
>>9241149
Kek

>>9241148
>YOU'RE POOOR
>ACTUALLY I AM STOP BULLYING MEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Hahaha what a fucking loser

>>9241138
>Playing a 256 × 192 game on a 256 × 192 screen is bad
Tell me you don't like retro games without telling me you don't like retro games. You're basically saying that you'll only play a low resolution game if it's been altered by some algorithm and then pretending that was what the artists originally drew. Lmao

>>9241162
>>9241151
You own nothing. cope

>>9241168
the person you are replying to does not play video games. they just post here.

>>9241162
You're just as poor as the rest of us whether you admit it or not.
>>9238317

>>9241171
you should probably kill yourself, anon.

>read through early thread
>legitimate discussion
>scroll down to the bottom
What the fuck happened?
I started emulating back in the mid 2000s, maybe 2006. It was for two games in particular
>SMRPG (it wasn't on the Wii Shop Channel yet and I didn't have an SNES)
>E.V.O. (game was expensive and I was like 10)
Nowadays, I only emulate if the game is $60+. I don't mind paying for a copy of a game I want on original hardware or ~$10 on a game I'm kinda interested in, but I don't feel like dropping hundreds on something where the money won't even go to the devs.

>>9238317
this anon gets it

I'll take this decisive moment to note that nobody has actually refuted the idea of collecting what you like and emulating everything else. Apparently it's not good enough unless you're emulating everything, for reasons that have nothing to do with financial insecurity mmhm yup totally

>>9241197
>collecting what you like and emulating everything else
Isn’t that what every collectorfag does? I’m a collectorfag and thats what I do.

>>9241201
I call it curatorfag. I always considered collectorfags to be the type to buy up anything and everything for the sake of completing their collection, which is a bit different from determining which games you want to own and which ones you're fine with downloading.

>>9241203
maybe? I think if you have one small selection of less than say 30 games thats curator tier, then above that there’s collector tier and hoarder tier.

>>9241215
30 games per system, sure, 30 games total is on the side of minimalist curator in my opinion. I'll agree however that keeping the game list small makes it easier to play though games in their entirety.

>>9241215
>one small selection of less than say 30 games
Like...total? Or per system? 30 games total is way too small if you have multiple systems.

>>9241236
>>9241219
well when someone is talking about curating I assume cream of the crop like a 3x3

>>9241242
you are a much more austere curator than I, anon

>>9241242
I suppose the definition would fluctuate from person to person. There's some systems where I'm fine with having just a few games (like the Jaguar) whereas something like the PlayStation you'll inevitably be leaving out equally creamy games by sticking to a set number of titles in your library. As it stands though, it's better to have a small selection and rotate out titles as you beat them. I'd always get sidetracked when I have a full romset on my flash carts.

>>9241250
>I'd always get sidetracked when I have a full romset on my flash carts
so true, it's the same thing as cable tv used to be. 1000 channels and nothing to watch

>>9241049
I pity the people who spend their time arguing on the internet about how to play games instead of playing them

>>9232874
If you are concerner with input lag and a MiSTer is not an option right now, you should looks for the ”Run Ahead” Feature in Retroarch.
It remove input lags. not as good as a MiSTer but it is almost impossible to see the difference. I have both.

>>9241091
>he doesn't know you can maintain hardware

>>9241215
>30 games per system
>minimalist
Growing up I never knew a single person who had even close to 30 games for one system.

>>9232849
I did it like a month ago when I realized that I have a powerful enough PC to run games (it is still a toaster though), and that I'm a third world poorfag so buying games is difficult but I want to enjoy some of the old classics

>>9241197
You said it was better, it's not. I play games I like at increased resolution. Also there's often romhacks that fix major bugs and other issues in my favorite games.
>>9242164
Not as easily as you can maintain roms, derp.

ITT: extremely seething coomlectors who also never had (good) sex

It took buying a crt to play my remaining original consoles and trying crt filters on my mister to realize how little I give a shit about the money pit that is original hardware. Fuck devs and game artists, I don't give a shit how they wanted me to play their games. I only care about having fun. My quirk is I like to use controllers that match the console I'm emulating if possible.

My personal issue with emulation is curation and choosing games, I have way too many complete sets sitting on my nas. Makes it hard to get motivated to go outside my handful of favorites.

I love seeing the game cases on my shelf

>>9241197
Any collector capable of not instantly resorting to
>lol u poor

>>9242347
>he does things that are easy
>>9242416
>sour grapes
>>9242442
based
>>9242938
>implying we're not all poor

a slight change in attitude, but still needs improvement

>>9242924
me too, froggy. I like to read the manuals too.

>>9240792
>You don't even fucking know how game design works.
are you ok?

>>9243141
I also got a kick out of that line.

>>9232849
>When did you start pirat-I mean emulating games?
I love to play old games. I also love to shoot guns (a lot). I don't make enough money to support collecting both of these.

Why are emulationfags so zealous? It's really weird.

>>9232849
emulation is a sin

I think if you don't have a CRT, there's not much point to playing on original hardware. Getting a CRT has become difficult, and will only keep getting more difficult.

>>9243754
>he still uses KJV
forsooth

>>9243781
>I think if you don't have a CRT, there's not much point to playing on original hardware.
kek why

>>9243781
walked by one sittin in the rain a few weeks ago.

>>9240792
What game is this?

>>9232849
ive emulated since around 99 with nesticle. but now that i have a dedicated pc connevted to a crt, its the only way i play retro games. (also, i dont play newer games)
my mame cab was completes in 2009 with a wells gardner d9400 and the emulation for 99% of retro arcades is near perfect.
basically im sayin, its really good with a crt monitor, otherwise, its a bit laggy