/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
AD MORTEM PHASE 2
Submissions due Oct 12th
>>9194259
https://mega.nz/folder/NBFWlJZQ#ayc36MvN6fAvwup-8vMLdA

94 PROTONS OF /vr/
See picture below for details
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

=== NEWS ===
[8-31] Realms Deep 2022 announced
https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1565052582153920515

[8-31] Anon shares orthographic voxel caching demonstration
https://youtu.be/dw10zm8KkO0

[8-27] Nirvana interviews Ribbiks
https://youtu.be/zgW4Kqkfpbs

[8-27] Corruption Cards is updated to 4.0
https://www.moddb.com/mods/corruption-cards/downloads/corruption-cards-40

[8-26] Frantik DM 2 - New 32 Map FFA Deathmatch MegaWAD
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131049

[8-25] XBAND Multiplayer from Doom SNES working!
https://youtu.be/Z89BinL0tAI

[8-23] Photos from planned FMV scenes for 3DO Doom released
https://twitter.com/burgerbecky/status/1561827633217912836

[8-18] Threewave Capture the Flag and Rubicon 2 added to Quake remaster
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2310/announcements/detail/3337750462906016220
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1560297992841732096

[8-18] Various id games on PC Game Pass
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1560305065683865600

[8-18] Trailer for Chasm: The Rift, confirmed to be on GOG and Steam
https://youtu.be/KjPqHQpiq1A

[8-18] Revolution added to DOOM 2, also interview.
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/6BZ4kXCNDikWq0C4gBtyRy/nods-to-mods-interview-revolution

[8-17] GOG versions of Doom now offer re-release ports
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/1559903276094656513

[8-17] Voxel Doom is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-voxel-project/addons/voxel-doom

=== PREVIOUS ===
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94 PROTONS OF /vr/ DISAMBIGUATION INFOGRAPHIC, HOPEFULLY YOU FEEL LESS AMBIGUATED NOW

>>9223984
>Sandy space FPS
I'd play it.

Play Marathon...NOW

>>9223992
I should set up SheepSaver and play Pathways into Darkness.

is there a port exactly like woof but i can make my fov 110 instead of 90

>>9223984
>realize anon babel ancient
Babel confirmed retro
>fireballs discuss
>sniper hitscanners
>duke far fucked
>death stupid
>enjoy super dead

>>9223957
Along with needing to make a sound in a certain place, a problem with teleport traps is that the monster is already aggro, which means their reflex window already happened 5 minutes ago so they can shoot you on the exact same frame they teleport in, which doesn't happen with monster closets and (instant) elevators

>>9223984
>valiant requires slaughtermap
>pistolstart balanced
>shotgun enemy mods
>damage high, thought little
>port annoying talking
>bullshit saving playing sunlust
>big voxels builder
>tim die easily outside

>>9224014
>>valiant requires slaughtermap
It is true, you are an absolute bitch if you don't do the full Lunatic experience.

>>9223978
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dnf2001-restoration-project/news/august-update32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCS8HSmAMUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2_AH5Kl7kI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l7YJRlBiq8

Hail to the king, baby.

>>9224025
Wait a minute, this actually looks good.

>>9223984
>nobody deathmatch
If you don't count fridays, then yep.

>>9224038
I mean that's id's excuse for removing deathmatches entirely from the latest stuff.

>>9224040
What's their excuse for removing map making and modding support?

>>9224051
Nobody really used their shitty mapping by numbers crap.

>>9223907
I'm usually critical of bugs and dislike some "legacy" mechanics like auto aim.
But that last bit is retarded. Tall monsters were a known challenge of the game, it's pretty obvious by the map designs. No shit is "broken" for utilising the game's mechanics.

It's so ingrained into the game that removing it is a big step away from Doom for most people, like 3D levels. Which is fine, it's okay to enjoy standalone ZDoom games.

>>9224058
You couldn't make maps for actual vanilla Doom without having it always in mind, it was a fundamental part of how the game worked.

Just throwing the idea out there. You know how in Doom there are textures of pictures here and there like in Panel 5? Well, I was thinking, could you use one of those AI picture generating websites to create custom pictures for wall textures like in panel 5? What about wall textures?

>>9224072
Well, I think it'd be doable. These are my first two attempts at it too in pic related

>>9224072
People were trying this some months back for texture generation, dunno what came of it.

>>9224073
>>9224072
Copy pasting over panel 5's picture right quick.

>>9224083
Use bilinear compression method to avoid sharp pixel edges.

>>9224083
>>9224090

>>9224090
>>9224092
I like mine better because I made it

>>9224094
Shoulda used this for HFFM

>>9224083

holy shit i was thinking back to nostalgia of going through megawads like alien vendetta with the weird call of duty mod on zandronum

decided to look up and see if new versions of it were made and the guy is still going and even wants to put tarkov into doom

https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-doom-cod-style-advanced-weapons-mod

>>9224113
Holy shit is that the RGA3 guy?

>>9224113
kek that's the same mod that has "girlfriend" options.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-doom-cod-style-advanced-weapons-mod/news/developer-diary-doomguys-new-girlfriend

>>9224140
When it comes to Doom, moddb feels like this weird isolated satellite community full of weird shit. The Island of Misfit WADs, if you will.

>>9224149
It kind of is, lot of edits of mods that are either "hey lets smoosh about twenty fucking mods into Lithium and call it it's own thing" and a handful of genuinely interesting things hiding on there.

Not a random example either: https://www.moddb.com/mods/lithium-heat

>>9224025
Looks good.
I'm seeing that they've replaced one of the casino's name to another less "offensive"

>>9224163
>I'm seeing that they've replaced one of the casino's name to another less "offensive"
You just knew something like that would happen with all the busybodies kicking about.

>>9223975
My brother

>>9223992
i'm actually playing Halo.

gotta make use of that MCC somehow...

>>9224186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrcMRq7saA
MY BROTHER
COME FIND ME
IN BATTLE WE ARE STRONGER

>>9224163
Duke's casino has ALWAYS been called 'The Lady Killer' and that name is right on the trailers, you dickcheese!

>>9224163
>>9224176
Actually "The Plantation" was supposed to be the name of the wrestling ring, while the building it's in is supposed to be "Booty Island." So the former is definitely still in the game. I know this cus I'm a member of the Discord server the dev team created and I know for a fact they do not go for revisionist/PC bullshit, especially considering they're all smart enough to know that DNF is not endorsing anything political, and ergo the naming of "The Plantation" isn't meant to be taken seriously like the rest of the game at all.

I do wonder why it was called that, however....

>>9223978
>ad mortem
more like fag mortem lmao

OK, this is the closest I've come to finishing this map, I think. See if I'm wrong! Vanilla Doom 2, complevel 2, target port PRBoom or DSDA or what have you, it's just a silly ol' Doom map. I want to move on and make more...

https://files.catbox.moe/7jmtgg.wad

>>9224083
>>9224092
>>9224102
>>9224103
kek

>>9224213
LOL! uhhh based?

>finish writing webnovel chapter about protagonist successfully negotiating with a sapient ant colony that communicates through writing out words with their bodies, offering to kill a different colony for them in exchange for their help in escaping a chasm
>pop open babel for testing and chillaxing
>realize I am a fucking retard and my revenant auto-offset adjust code has a massive failure case
>have to redo it like I did for the arachnotron
>code is also still awful
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I'm going to lose my fucking miiiind I thought I was almost done AAAAAAAAAA
I was gonna release it tonight but now I need to do this AAAAAAAA

>>9223992
i played 1 and some of 2 and didn't like it, though i do love halo and it taught me gyro aim (i can't stand aim assist).

>>9224347
ur novel sounds kino anon
where can one read it

>>9224389
Well this kino is about ~112 chapters ahead of the current release, so it's not so kino yet. At the moment our protagonist is eating bugs in a prison cell to regain his bullshit powers so he can bust out and take revenge on the fucker who inadvertently put him there by trying to murder him and nearly succeeding and, worse that that, injured his pride (that he totally doesn't have according to him, probably). It's complicated. Also that's a run-on sentence but idgaf since it's 4chan.
It's on Royal Road but I'm not gonna shill it by name. However, let's say it's ranked around ~2800 on the site, isn't a LitRPG, and started in March. Yes I know those numbers are meh but I don't care, it's fun to write.
Also I'm going to fucking lose my mind trying to make a hitscan do the thing I want it to do, fuck. It's like, 95% accurate but still fails at the edge cases because technically a projectile isn't perfectly thin like a hitscan, so I've gotta figure out how to adjust it to run along the upper line of the trajectory and AAAAAA

Here is my "/vr/ Mondo Project" submission.

https://files.catbox.moe/n7925n.zip

Mondo Anon please acknowledge.

>>9224002
There's an ALEPH One remake of PiD. Seemed decent enough for the bit I played.

>>9224459
I've checked that out too, but I wanna do it right, with all the extra windows and such.

>>9223992
Play 2 and Infinity, Marathon 1 is a slog, they all are but 1's levels can fuck off.
>>9224002
Why would you do this to yourself, Pathways into Darkness is fucking awful.

>>9224471
>1's levels can fuck off.
t. man who did not purchase the cheap colony ship

GAAAAAAAAAAH
I literally just had this motherfucking thing draw me a line to try to figure out why it wasn't working and I don't even know anymore man.
I hate correct offsets so much but they look so good AAAA

>>9223992
I wonder if there are people who played only Infinity.

How accurate is Raze for Duke?
I know it's based on GZdoom so I'm a bit worried, I'm more familiar with nBlood and that thing is great compared to DOS version.
I've only played eDuke and it was pretty janky but accurate from what I've heard.

Holy FUCK this took way too long and uses way too many magic numbers. However, the Revenant can now very, very accurately tell if it should shoot at you from shoulder height or not, preventing exploit-y bullshit. You don't want to see the code for this (but I'm gonna post it anyway so someone better at ZS than be can recoil in disgust)

>>9224519
It's times like this that I like having a 4k monitor. The top of this file also now reads:
>Please, for the love of whatever deity or power you respect, do not attempt to replicate the coding stunts in this actor.
>I am a professional (read: trained moron) and it is my job to make hacks like this for enterprise-level software.
>I do not condone the following code, in fact I hate it, but it works, so I'm keeping it.

>>9224506
Isn't it RedNukem in a wrapper?

>>9223984
> quake nowhere to be found
Good, like it's supposed to be.

>>9223984
>bullshit saving playing sunlust
>harder cyberdemon
>spider vendetta
>oh revenants imagine
>remaster chainsaw
>literally boobie

>>9224014
>>damage high, thought little

Strong like bull, smart like tractor

>>9224548
No. RedNukem is just special fork of Eduke that can play Duke64 and Redneck Rampage. Raze is like Gzdoom for Build Games.

This Square Wave shot for the Space Hunter's rifle came out better than I hoped. I don't have footage for all this just yet though.

>>9224660
Strong like tractor smart like hay bale.

>>9224717
and from the side

>>9224717
The primary fire too, the idea here is the pulse travels out, stops and then arcs out electricity. The zaps can spread to nearby enemies and they flip the fuck out while they're being shocked. It's pretty goddamn funny.

>>9224660
>spider vendetta
alternate universe alien vendetta full of arachnotrons and masterminds

thinking about how much cooler inferno would've been if warrens was the opening map and the base difficulty for the episode instead of hell keep
i appreciate the sheer hostility in inferno's level design, but it feels like sandy wasn't willing or able to commit to it on the combat side, and the end result was just annoying instead of challenging
he came out swinging with some of the toughest maps in doom 2, so it was probably inexperience and time constraints more than anything else

>>9224025
>>9224029
hoh damn! I was wondering about the restoration. Its looking real goood
and >>9224207 is also reassuring. Everything's comin up milhouse!

I know you can use arrays in QuakeC on FTEQCC, but can you use them just the same as regular C or are there still limitations?

>>9224471
I played Pathways with the Aleph One port for the first time a few weeks ago and had a horrible amount of fucking fun.

The puzzles weren't too bad either besides figuring out how to pass the invincible green oozes and it deserves a lot more credit than it gets, which was basically at nothing anyways.

>>9223907
Infinite monster height is not a bug, that is intentional. Otherwise I agree. There's a few levels which actually depend on the spec hits overflow, but those are very, very rare, and there's internal exemptions for stuff like that.

>>9223912
I don't agree that this outright breaks maps. It gives the player SOME advantages SOME of the time, while giving monsters their own advantages in return. A group of Cacos or a Pain Elemental is now free to traverse above a group of Imp and Pinkies on the ground, so they're not held back like in Vanilla, in return the player could potentially flee by running on top of the ground monsters and moving underneath.

It goes both ways, and I can only think of one official level where it would actually break progression. I don't consider just deviating from the Vanilla gameplay as outright BREAKING levels, to me, jumping to bypass things is something that would break levels.

>>9223975
>>9223978
>>9223979
94 Protons Of /vr/
For those interested, go for broke! From August 11th to September 12th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6.1 (fixed some textures and added a few more)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of optional MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Special slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed (?)
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Optional Hunted style map: Unclaimed
We could have up to two of these if there's the interest for it. Feel free to be playful with the concept of an Arch-Vile labyrinth.

>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 17 Maps!

To Do:
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>ENDOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

WANTED: 3D Modeler, one who can do weapon stuff, one which can do monsters.

>>9223992
But i don't feel like playing Hexen in space...

btsx e2's map31 is the only slaughtermap in the mapsets officially offered in the official unity port, right? I wonder how it runs

>>9224905
there's also go 2 it (plutonia is in the port)

>putting so much effort into secrets I know the two people who play my map will never find
there's no sadder realisation than this

just saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw10zm8KkO0
as much as I loved voxel doom, I hope someone goes through the trouble of doing the same for gzdoom using voxel doom's assets.

>>9225021
i promise to find ALL your secrets when you release your map here, anon...

>>9225042
>i promise to find ALL your secrets when you release your map here, anon...
daw thanks man, I'll go all out for them

>tfw you regress into an unga bunga caveman brainlet when it comes finding secrets in Doom and any other game

you guys find secrets? i just check doomwiki or uv-max playthroughs

>>9225062
pretty much this
I can spot different wall textures and hidden passageways underneath stairs but any secret that requires more critical thinking than that just shuts my brain off

>>9225062
I missed one behind a waterfall in Hedon. Literal negative IQ moment.

>>9224029
It actually does. And their FAQ addresses all the bullshit rumors.
Hopefully they don't fuck it up. But where Manhattan project tossed in a tranny joke, I know for a fact they won't get that close to the edge with this project. Though tbf I don't remember 3D doing that either.
Pic unrelated. Was just browsing gifcities earlier and found it.

>>9225067
I just stick with whichever I find naturally, through random wall checks and noticing odd details.
100% a level feels good, but I never feel like I'm missing out if I don't. It's rare as fuck that anyone puts some fun Easter egg in a secret and not just some ammo/armor.

>build the Ripper in DRLA
Now this is chainsawing

>>9225062
>>9225068
>>9225075
I check every waterfall in video games now after playing so many, but in Doom and whatnot I can only spot misaligned textures or super obvious secret placements. Otherwise I have to circle the room going "UGH, UGH, UGH, UGH." I like breaking shit to find secrets in other games though it can be too obvious sometimes.

These hammers frustrate me. They don't look right.

>>9225042
>a distinctive old school look
This does it for me, now I’m sold on voxels.

Alright which is your favorite main campaign Doom 1 level?

>>9225104
>It's rare as fuck that anyone puts some fun Easter egg in a secret and not just some ammo/armor.
probably something along the lines of "it damages the integrity of my serious megawad"
which is a shame because video games are meant to be fun and silly goofy easter eggs are pretty fun

>>9225216
E2M2 forever.
>finally get to it through Consolation Prize
>it’s barely half of what it was on PC
Fuck.

>>9225216
Unholy Cathedral, of course

The /vr/ Mondo Project is a rip-off of the Doomworld Mega Project series. The purpose of the project to encourage creativity and bolster /vr/ as a mapping and modding community.
RULES:
- Submit as times as you would like by the end of 2022. Updates are allowed.
- Any kind of playable custom content for any DOOM IWAD is considered a valid submission. Maps, gameplay mods, etc.
- Include the phrase "/vr/ Mondo Project" with your submission so that I can find them all.

The submissions will be compiled into a zip with each submission given its own folder. Please include a txt with some information about how to play your submission and credits for any resources used.
I will be reposting this at the start of each new month. Please do not add this project to the news post.

>>9224421
Acknowledged. That was a fun episode, thanks for submitting. Submission count is now up to 5.

What's a good Doom source port for someone that doesn't like Doom?

>>9225245
Eternity

>>9225245
Chocolate Strife.

>>9225245
Risen3D

>>9225216
E2M6

>You'll be swiss cheese!

>>9225216
>Main campaign Doom 1 level
The first three, E1M1, E1M2 and E1M3 are my favorites. Brief, to the point but memorable breezes.

>>9225165
Look at how they're handled on other FPS gun sprites.

>>9225293
I don't have any comparable examples to look at. These hammers were based on the one from my revolver sprite, but it doesn't look right here.

>>9225245
Quakespasm

>>9225294
Hold on a minute....

>>9225241
i actually really like this map

>>9225302
>>9225165
Here's a few reference shots from my russian boomerstick. Please excuse the shitty cellphone quality.

My brain is giving out, what kind of encounter would fit this kind of room layout?

>>9225330
>what kind of encounter would fit this kind of room layout?
Sexual

>>9225334
i am not reshaping the room into a penis.

>>9225330
When in doubt, chase the player around with more revenants than they can quickly kill.

>>9225330
Which one? The big rectangle? Or the smaller rectangle?

>>9225336
Top right kind of looks like one, left looks like a hand, judging from the location the hand is being inserted into a cavity.

>>9225337
You can throw me shape and cover ideas too man, i have spent a lot of time over-designing the previous areas, and my brain is mush.
>>9225338
i already did that, pic related.

>>9225330
Which direction are you coming from and where are you going?

>>9225347
coming from the center teleporter, the upper rooms will give you a key which unlocks the final unconnected one.

>>9225330
Berserk+Inv+Room full of Barons and maybe a Cyber. Works better if the player hasn't picked up any high-tier weapons yet.

>>9225359
Wasn't this exact encounter in tricks and traps?

HL1's monster design was pretty cool.

>>9225361
Did it have a berserk? I can't remember.

>>9225243
>Acknowledged. That was a fun episode, thanks for submitting. Submission count is now up to 5.
thnx and u bet.

>>9225216
are we including the xbox, ps1, gba and the jaguar levels?

>>9225402
Okay now that I'm done with ARWOP, I could ask for a direction what to try-out next on the menu after an intermission of sorts
The first reply will decide:
-Nyarlathotep
OR
-SomethingWickedThisWayComes
?

This is what became of the room so far boys, the three stooges are mancubi.

>>9225462
looks good

>>9225490

>>9225364
Gonna stone you to death

>>9225510
>cold
Not cold but I want all the snow so I can know all the comfy

>>9225510
Is it possible in MBF21/DEHEXTRA to have a pocket Archvile jump weapon like in Jumpwad, but without the self-damage?

dredd doom is still wip, so what if there was a strontium dog doom?

editing textures is harder than I thought it'd be, these darn 64 X 128 pixel limits are crazy maaaan

>>9225539
You can go wider. Taller would work with different degree of success.

>>9225302
>>9225325
Oh damn, dude, that's pretty helpful, maybe I can just draw all new hammers with this, proper side-hammers! Thank you so very much!

>>9225549
You're welcome. Hammer shotguns are sexy as fuck and I'd love to see it come out pretty.

>>9225539
Fixed

>>9225545
I'm using paint since its the first custom texture I've done so I think my capabilities are a bit limited.
I'm trying to keep it in the normal pixel limit since I'm not ready to jump into super modding shit yet.

>>9225558
>.jpg

>>9225561
foiled again

What am I doing wrong here? I'm trying to write a UMAPINFO for No End In Sight so that you can access the bonus map from E4M6's secret exit, but it just refuses to work for some reason

>>9224352
>What if Carmack and Romero did not broke up?
You can never truly destroy their love.

>>9225570
>MAP: E1M0
>E1

>>9225430
go with Wicked. then Masque, if you haven't played it yet.
leave Nyar for leftovers, it's too gimmicky.

>>9225573
who wouldve guessed that a mere 25 years later, they would be advocating for trans rights

>>9225558
how'd you put pictures over the box ?
pretty plz, i'm not good at texture art

>DOOM 1: a classic because there was nothing else like it at the time. a literal stone wheel that only endures in popularity thanks to pop culture (you might call it the Grateful Dead of video games), and mods made by severely autistic individuals who felt totally fine playing one of the most barebones shooters in existence for 30 years. also every enemy has a visible protruding anus for no reason at all.
>DOOM 2: literally a glorified expansion pack for the first game but with a few more monsters and way shittier levels, and a new weapon that makes every other weapon pointless
>Quake: DOOM except with no demon anuses and better music, except the weapons all suck ass and the monsters are shit and boring and take forever to kill with basic ammo
>Quake 2: Quake 1 with DOOM weapons and aesthetics, but for some reason it just isn't fun to play
>Quake 3: multiplayer only Quake 2 with better weapons except this time you fight lesbian alien women and R.A. Salvatore talks to you through text
>DOOM 3: Quake 2 but takes place in a metal box and somehow everything became even more boring
>Quake 4: DOOM 3.5
it's a travesty of life that actual good shooters like marathon and timesplitters have been relegated to the tomb while this shit retard company has managed to survive on tech demos made by freaks and literal transexuals, all because thin-haired gen x losers grew up listening to metallica and playing doom on their dad's PC and can't let go of the past. has there even been a more overrated company than this fucking turducken?

>>9225430
Something Wicked is good, very nice verticality there. Never played Nya-thing.

>>9225585
First of all, for the love of god, acquire and familiarize yourself with something better than Paint. Look up Paint dot net, Krita, or LibreSprite, all free and better suited for this sort of thing.

>>9225590
>>and a new weapon that makes every other weapon pointless
lol lmao, the rest of your post is just as silly.

>>9225607
>lol lmao
the mark of the defeated

>>9225603
alright, thanks for the info

>>9225584
Has Romero been particularly outspoken on troon stuff? Because I'm thinking (having no real knowledge on what he tweets) that he's just doing the generic half hearted "trans rights" tweet shit because the social pressure is on.

>>9225590
Shit post, also no one cared about Marathon which is why it got relegated into the tomb.
Timesplitters was alright for a console shooter of the time but people are really overselling it.
Shit post.

>>9225618
yeah i hear hillary clinton has been personally emailing romero telling him he needs to shout trans rights on his streams or they're going to put him guantanamo bay. youre gay btw.

>>9225590
TL;DR
I'll just assume your a faggot,

>>9225618
It makes sense for romero to support trans stuff tho. Hes a weirdo (in a good way).

>>9225623
Are you literally 12 years old?
Because you're painfully childish even for this website.

>>9225624
sucks you didnt read the post, i clearly stated that doom was the best game ever and anyone who wouldnt want to read a post about doom is really gay

>>9225618
>Half Life M16s
I’m not the biggest fan of the HD updates and I love the MP5 with the grenade attachment, but it does seem weird to give to a bunch of soldiers like this. I’m entirely illiterate when it comes to these tactical details, but having them go in with assault rifles does seem more fitting.

>>9225628
are you mentally 12? youve been playing a shitty 2.5D shooter for 30 years bro. wake up.

>>9225590
I didnt ask

>>9225638
ask what?

>>9225631

I like the sound of the m16 a lot, its more bad ass than the mp5. But HL enemies are such bullet sponges I fucking hate playing on hard.

I guess custom difficulty can be made with some tweaking.

I guess the original idea was small portable ( silent?)submachine gun since we are just shooting a couple of nerds and security officers.

whoever made this map deserves to die of testicle cancer.
like, fuck you and fuck your mother that shat you out of her STD infested arsehole that godforsaken day.

>>9225643
whoa there, easy reddit

>>9225641
>>9225631
The mp5 makes sense given the indoor environment. what wouldhave made more sense though would have been Colt Commando

>>9225646
easy my arse.
fuck this nigger shit.
why in every fucking community project there has to be a literal cancer troll map and the idiots in charge fucking allow it?

>>9223992
>>9224893
>love Hexen, played it regularly since I was 3, my favourite game of all time probably
>never had a Mac, never heard of Marathon
>find out about it thanks to an anon who posted a .webm here about a year ago or so (it was from 1, with the Security Officer shooting grenades out of the assault rifle from a room overlooking another one filled with lava)
>find out about Aleph One
>play all games and fall in love with all three of them
>playing through Rubicon X now
But yeah, I guess there's some esoteric connection between Hexen and Marathon since they both tickle the same part of my brain.

>>9225648
Then again the m16 also makes sense, since in everything else the soldiers are pretty armed to the teeth and are there fuck up some aliens if needed.

One of the things I loved about HL. Not only HL soldiers have that villain charisma, they are not portrayed as complete idiots. They win a lot of the fights in the game against armored aliens.

Also the original idea by gman was exactly using human military power to attack the borderworld, Freeman was just a incident.

At least its one of the theories.
I would just give the HECU m16s, and suppressed mp5s to the black ops if Hl ever got remade properly in the old engine.

>>9225590
I'm >>9225654 and the reason I never heard of Marathon is because it was Mac exclusive you nonce.
Tl;dr you're a faggot

>>9225657
The thing is they didnt know what they were up against so they brought 9mm guns to deal with scientists and guards. Thats why i suggest the colt commando or any more compact version of a 5.56 rifle.

>>9225590
LMAO jannies pin this

>>9225672
>the reason I never heard of Marathon is because reason
okay
anyway

>>9225631
The M16s make more sense because it's been the standard service rifle of the Marine Corps but maybe in the end the devs chose mp5 because they wanted the pistol and the full auto gun to share the same ammo.

An Mp5 with a grenade launcher is kinda dumb and an M16+203 with a heat shield looks sexy as hell.

It's a videogame so obsessing too much over whether it "makes tactical sense" or not is a bit odd lol.

>>9225618
>Has Romero been particularly outspoken on troon stuff? Because I'm thinking (having no real knowledge on what he tweets) that he's just doing the generic half hearted "trans rights" tweet shit because the social pressure is on.
Showed up to some virtue signaling stream that was virtue signaling off the back of virtue signaling to do his own.

ZDoom tried to do a "thank you romero" E1-style trans mapping project and it fucking died on it's arse.

>>9225657
9mm MP5s makes sense because they're going to be shooting things in really volatile environments. You probably don't want to accidentally overpenetrate while inside some top secret high tech lab and cause more mayhem.
Of course that would make sense if they didn't have underbarrel grenade launchers, but I'm not going to dock points for that because the MP5 with a grenade launcher is awesome.

>>9225697
>It's a videogame so obsessing too much over whether it "makes tactical sense" or not is a bit odd lol.
Yeah, it’s just that in hindsight it seems…dinky (?) for them to bring submachine guns. Giving the “get in thurr marines” soldiers M16s and MP5s to the black ops/sneakier soldiers as >>9225657 suggested is a hair more fitting. Still love the MP5s tho so my deal is nowhere near broken.

>>9225697
>An Mp5 with a grenade launcher is kinda dumb
Dumb and kinda awesome at the same time. I mean, motherfucking Ahnold used the same gun in End of Days.

>>9225672
>Mac exclusive
Durandal was released on PC as well.

>>9225717
The Windows version of M2 had level differences that I can't seem to find a comprehensive list of, could anyone help with that?

he's watching.

>>9225697
Apparently according to imfdb its not even a m16 its a colt 727 which is like a Colt Commando

what's the difference between these 2 releases?
https://www.abebooks.com/9780749924898/Masters-Doom-Two-Guys-Created-0749924896/plp
https://www.abebooks.com/9780812972153/Masters-Doom-Two-Guys-Created-0812972155/plp?cm_sp=plped-_-1-_-isbn

there is 13 pages difference and the cover is slightly so different

Thoughts?
Is anything happening?

>>9225725
He must be arguing about mouse aiming.

>>9225739
Zero interest, Sigil wasn't really remarkable beyond who made it and I don't see a point in tossing him off for old time's sake.

Strife is what Marathon could have been.

>>9225750
No, not even close to what marathon does and i like strife.

Would love a HECU mod game where you play as a cardboard sniper. Killing aliens and nerds.

>>9225739
This scan be genuinely interesting if eh gets the right people to make the game, and use his aesthetic ideas.

>>9225590
nice wolfenstein erasure, shitlord

>>9225739
>Thoughts?
Daikatana reference goes here.
Otherwise, I just want Sigil 2.

>>9225697
I mean they eventually bring tanks, artillery, fucking aircraft, its all out WAR.

A good idea woudl be as I said give black ops supressed mp5s and pistols. Give all the soldiers from we got hostile normal not supressed mp5s.

And all soldiers from surface tension onwards have m16 and the great opfor heavy machinegun.

Also have some units near the end with experimental power armor that resembles the german version, give love to everything.

>>9225697
>>9225772
can you faggots shut the fuck up about your playground tier army man what-if babble? holy fucking shit, lose your virginity

>>9225573
>This mancubus... has no dick!

>>9225750
is there any strife-like mod for marathon?

>>9225775
no

>>9225780
i hope you die a painful death you baby-brained genetic waste

>>9225772
>Also have some units near the end with experimental power armor that resembles the german version, give love to everything.
This would make no sense, since they pull out of black mesa once shit gets too hot

>>9225782
Nigga youre on a thread about doom and old fps games you have no room to talk

>>9225782
I hope whatever is wrong with you you get over it anon.

>>9225784
Fair point. I apologize. Maybe a cameo as a black Mesa made robot or something. Dissembled.

>>9225787
Report and hide. Why are you people so insistent on responding to bait and stupid posters? He's not even smart enough to use proper capitalization, don't even bother.

>schizo gets butthurt because his bait thread got deleted

>>9225245
Zandronum

>>9225772
>>9225697
HOW FUCKING ABSOLUTELY YOU TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON A FUCKING WEBSITE BASED AROUND THE DISCUSION OF ASPECTS OF VIDEO GAMES, FUCKING DIE SCUM

>>9225787
>i'm a faggot so you must be too
>bespeckled nerd devolves into using nigger lingo when insecure

>>9225791
>capitalization is tied to intelligence
holy reddit

>>9225808
fr bruh no cap

>>9225809
>regurgitates insults from other people
yep, that's Reddit™

>>9225730
>Colt Commando

The Colt Commando sound in max payne 1 and 2 must be one of the most satisfying gun sounds in games ever. Its a bit metallic.

>>9225756
>if eh gets the right people
I'm sure Romero will do it right, after all he's a cool guy; eh makes video games and doesn't afraid of anything.

Bad luck to kill a lost soul

>>9225559
At least switch to Paint.NET or something. Also note that width of even vanilla was going as far as 256 (But it needs to be power of 2)

>>9225859
yeah I've switched, another anon recommended it as well so I've installed it, thank you either way

>>9225838
*starts jacking off to a soulsphere*

may be an extremely dumb question but: how do I restart maps in raze? I'm playing a blood mod and if i write map whatever in the console it just goes to the regular game's map.

>>9225890
use your thumb to masturbate your butt

>>9225890
Does Raze have a listmaps command like GZDoom?

>>9225654
> some esoteric connection between Hexen and Marathon
Hexen has a clear connection with every first-person game that includes where-the-hell-should-I-go mechanics, Metroid Prime for example.

>>9225750
Utter shit?

>>9225042
I think I remember seeing this guy's engine in the duke4 forums (I think). I thought that it was just some neat stuff added to the build engine, but looks like he added and changed enough stuff to be considered a proper, individual engine.
https://www.indiedb.com/engines/brahma

>>9225898
yeah but anything similar to idclev i tried and didn't work either

>>9225898
wait i didn't read that properly. i am half awake
i will check for that

Is there a stigma for otherwise unnoteworthy maps that use features such as 3D floors, portals, etc? I always felt like there was, but I've never asked.

>>9226007
3d floors reguarly fuck up in coop online as players suddenly bug thru the floors as the engine gets confused trying to figure out who is where and players wind up stuck in lava instead of on the bridge but thats kinda of an niche case I guess

>>9226007
There's a stigma for people going overboard on advanced port features in an attempt to cover up a total lack of mapping fundamentals. It's part of why people recommend Boom format as a starting point. If you're just an amateur clearly trying to learn though, it doesn't really matter what advanced ports/features you use.
>>9226010
I'm pretty sure he meant actual 3D floors, not Vanilla-style fake bridges.

>>9226014
My bad, my knowledge of doom mapping is pretty basic so I only experienced stuff like 3d floors and slopes on a mouth breather level.

I agree that fundamentals are important, making a good map is less about having intricate details and 'cool shit thats neven been done before' or whatever, if the map lacks good flow people will get tired of wandering around lost and nothing kills interest in a map like that, unless you're the type that loves getting stuck or something.

>>9226014
By unnoteworthy I mean something from someone that typically only does community wads.

>>9226027
Just because you're an unknown mapper doesn't mean your map is inherently unnoteworthy. If it's good it's good, no matter who made it, or what port it targets.

>>9226007
These features by themselves are neither good or bad. They're tools that unfortunately get misused a lot. As the other Anon said, good fundamentals are what matter in the end. A well thought out combat encounter will make your map fun to play twenty years from now.

The ZDoom community is they're more concerned with Doom on a technical level. That's why you see extensive modding projects on there, but you rarely ever see impressive ZDoom maps. I guess one way to put it is they ask how, not why.

>>9225739
could be cool if his recent DOOM levels are anything to go by, but it could go really bad if not done right.

>>9226187
The thing is, I feel like you need to be a cacoward winning mapper to actually justify the use of advanced source port features, despite how easy they are to actually implement. Nobody wants to play Generic Techbase #9495: now with 3D floors!

I find it funny that noob mappers here are anxious as fuck about their first projects
and then some based retard goes and uploads shit like this to idgames

>>9226243
Counter-example I played recently: That one map in DUMP 2 by the Eevee furry with the portals and stuff. Very fun, interesting use of the features, wouldn't have felt as smooth if it just used normal teleporters.

>>9226248
I'm not a noob mapper, not by any means, it's just something that I've been thinking about since my first map back in 2015, which was very much "ok, I have UDMF, do everything".

>>9226243
3D floors are good as a means to do some more advanced texturing on a basic beginner friendly level or some very light landscaping like a small bridge, many beginner maps make the mistake of making big combat arenas or (trying) to make non-euyclidian landscapes with them without even having a grasp on dooms scales for map making, also:
>mapping doom for your awesome 3D level idea and not just quake
inevitably this leads to a excessively large 3D floor / s where either the player or the enemies on top of them cannot even attack because they lack proper line of sight / firing capability.
it takes a conscientious beginner to step back from these impulses and ask questions like "how can I tip the player off where to go" and while this may result in a more run of the mill map, it instills the skills and experience to make better, more experimental maps down the line when the mapper is better acquaintanted with concepts of scale, flow and posses the technical know how.

>>9223978
DBP51: Deadly Ritual is out now!
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2960/deadly-ritual

>>9226243
This has been on my mind recently. If you're making a map for a ZDoom format, I'm expecting you to go all-in on its features. I don't want to play KDiTD with slopes, I want to play something of the same caliber of Ashes 2063 or Elementalism. And like others have said, using these features while keeping the map >fun is pretty hard, and it's how we end up with garbage like DTS-T. When a mapper does manage to pull it off, the results are quite beautiful.
>>9226289
Ah sweet right on cue.

>>9226248
heh, based retard. I like that.

>that one map that mogs all the other maps in the megawad and is the only reason the megawad is even remembered today
what's her name?

>>9226304
Misri Halek and the Mucus Flow I guess?
I find both of them grossly overrated desu

>>9226007
They can be misused to cover up/compensate for a map, or at least it has been perceived that way. In the early days of ZDoom mapping, there was a lot of stuff where people were eager to just shove in new features here and there, even if they didn't really add anything to a level, even if maybe they were a poor addition, and then a bunch of effort being put into stuff like fancy 3D floors when the map is actually not that good.

It's honestly just that like with Vanilla and Boom maps, you should know mapping fundamentals and actually have a plan for the gameplay, simply don't rely on GzDoom features like a crutch, in the same way you shouldn't rely on Boom features like a crutch. Don't throw in stuff like 3D bridges and structures just for the hell of it, put that stuff in because you think you can make something good with it.

>>9226290
How different would your opinion be if 3D floors were a Boom feature? Keep in mind, 3D floors were a feature in ports dating back to late 90s early 2000s, well within the time frame of Boom's original development.

I like bilinear filtering in some games

>>9226390
Its needed in half life

>>9226393
Oh yeah, in games where the ground textures are clearly just massive multicolor pixels, it's pretty obvious that the artist intent there is to have linear filtering take care of the work and blend them together. The pixels look too harsh otherwise.

>>9226390
It's ok in games where it was developed with it in mind but on sprites? It's fucking hideous.

>>9226248
Nice. You gotta start somewhere, I just haven't uploaded any of my first stuff to idgames.

>>9226403
Unreal and Half Life from then on, I filter. Quake 2 and before, I don't. I'm on the fence about Thief.

>>9219480
Other than KartMP, Juicebox and Slipstream, these are some mods you should have a look at:

https://mb.srb2.org/addons/bumpspring.3080/
https://mb.srb2.org/addons/obsolete-juggys-kart-fixes.4153/
https://mb.srb2.org/addons/hostmod.2421/
The main things you want from this one are the alternate scoreboard, the vote and restat commands for players, and, apparently, better stability (every server I know uses it). There are also other commands you can try playing with.
https://mb.srb2.org/addons/stattracker.3992/
This saves stats from the server such as player wins and track records and adds a permanent ranking with ELO, which would be cool, even more if you posted the results as a spreadsheet occasionally.

As for the first three I mentioned, Juicebox makes many changes to make the game faster and less annoying, and it tries specially to give players at the back a chance at catching up with the frontrunners, which would be good for beginners. It's also explained here: https://hyuu.cc/j/
For KartMP, see the picture for a good starting config; I also recommend turning battleaccel on, and haste if not using Juicebox at the same time. And the difference between Slipstream and Pisstream is that the latter, in addition to the drafting mechanic, also adds boost stacking. In vanilla, only the strongest/longest speed boost can be active at one time. With this, boosts from shoes, pads and drifts can all stack and be applied at the same time, making things much faster and also more intuitive. You can decide if you already want to use it over normal Slipstream (or neither).

>>9226425
Some mods I DON'T recommend using are:
Hornmod: they cause file size and RAM bloat and are annoying.
Funny deaths: little point in using them together with Juicebox, and the particles can become excessive and cause frame drops if there are many players.
Acrobatics/Acrobasics: gay, changes the balance more than it seems, and if you don't use the new mechanics you're at a disadvantage.

You can still try these mods if you want to. If you go to the in-game server browser (in moe/1.3), join Karts R Us for a popular server that uses all three to see them in action.

GERMANS

when you replicate the devastator but its more OP than the original gun.

>>9226443
Yes, they do indeed have until the year 2003 or 2004 typically ordered games with combat intemperate to have most if not all characters in video games sold in their nation to be turned into robots. Especially console games.

>>9223984
>tim die
bit rude

>>9226487
He invented death.

>>9226494
I guess you could say that my invention was a little, ehrm, Ih-IMPRESSIVE! Mua-ha-ha!

After committing my daily crime against programming, I did some more testing of Babel and did this for no reason.
I'm really just paranoid about releasing it the update at this point because I keep finding shit that needs touching up.

>>9226443
schutzstaffel!

>>9226545
Those thick laser streaks are sex.

>>9226545
>I'm really just paranoid about releasing it the update at this point because I keep finding shit that needs touching up.
Do it, you wiener

>>9226546
>DEHACKs your SS nazi
>DEHACKs your keen

>>9226554
You can totally customize it to basically do anything with the sprites so long as it's moving a group of them of a certain size along a straight line with a scale gradient across them.
>>9226559
I'll do it I swear, I just need to quadruple check everything again and then cry when I find another issue.

>>9226574
Well, it currently looks like the lasers are coming from under the gun because of how wide they are, maybe they could be thinner for the first short bit of travel, or outright invisible?

>>9226586
Yes (sort of) and yes, depending on configuration

>>9226591
I think it's a detail worth adding, then it'd make that raygun perfect.

>>9226586
To be clear, this is me fucking around. The actual tracers on default settings look like they do in this hastily-recorded webm

>>9226594
this is gay. mods were a mistake.

>>9226594
Huh, those extra thicc rays were kinda cool though.

>>9226596
Shut up, whore.

>>9226597
>Shut up, whore.
says the one simping for a fat fag making brutal doom tier D2 mods. make sure to rinse after gargling that chode so your breath doesnt smell during your shift at carl'a jrs tomorrow.

>>9226597
You can absolutely make them look like that with just a few sliders. If Hiromoot wasn't a gay fag and actually let me put a video up to like 10MB or something I'd webm this, but instead you get it on catbox.
https://files.catbox.moe/yd33ry.mp4

>>9226596
lol loser

>>9226606
Oooh, granular, that feeds into my autism.

dudes, i finally get the TimeofDeath vibe. I just played one of those crazy high maps that slowly opens more and more, and pushes infinite height into your face from the first second. I had a long day at work and just blasted shit while it blasted me. i kindof want to make a youtube channel where I just max ToD maps

someone tell me their ToD story

>>9226545
You could always just call it a beta and get people to give you more testing and feedback to figure shit out.

>>9226617
Yeah I mean they were all just internal but then I made them less internal. There's also a page (in the beginning of that video) that you can click to reset them one by one in case you fuck up.
Honestly, in a more practical way, it's useful for converting them into beam-like visuals for those who don't like the tapered tail style. Beams are also a bit more highly visible.

>>9226625
Yeah I did that a while ago but now I'm kinda trying to make sure it's not fucked before I dump it out. Like, it's fine, mostly, but there's shit that I notice sometimes and go "well that needs more polish" like the revenant aim adjust and that leads to huge rabbitholes of work. What I really want to avoid is releasing a billion tiny updates as I fix shit, because THAT is annoying.

>>9226604
>a laser gun going pew pew is brutal doom tier
Dilate harder twittertroon

>>9224535
>I am a professional (read: trained moron) and it is my job to make hacks like this for enterprise-level software.
I read somewhere on /g/ that enterprise rewards those who can pump out functional code at high speed but didn't think it would somehow become relevant thinking about it here kek

>>>9226667
"Functional" is a much looser definition than you would probably expect. It's less "mechanic puts the part in your car and does the bare minimum" and more "my crazy uncle welded in a lawnmower part over here to get my car to start".

>>9226596
I'm sorry but I think that anyone who can be against something that's completely optional that you have to voluntarily download and only affects your game or the people you play with who also voluntarily downloaded it are absolutely fucking retards who need to be removed from the gene pool. Your post is included in this. Mods aren't a mistake, you were.

>>9226667
You'd be surprised how much shit is a tower of duct tape.

>>9226673
I'd say Tumblr, but that was more a tower of dried jizz tissues.

>>9226304
Demonic Hordes

>>9226606
you just dum

>>9226684
I would ree at my encoder for not being able to VP9 without melting my CPU if I wasn't so impressed. God damn.

>>9226686
Also this is the settings I use. I didn't do anything fancy, just used the mpv webm script which makes making webms super quick and ez

>>9226691
What the fug is that? I have this piece of garbage

>>9226694
I used to use that but mpv is just quicker as you can watch the video and just press a hotkey if you want to make a webm of a certain part.

>Recreates all of Wolf3D in Doom, then creates like 10 other mission packs in the same year
>Creates Artic Wolf, a wad that gets remade like 4 times and inspired Wolfenstein mods for decades
>Also creates a one man movie studio so out there he gets an entire Vice Documentary out of it.

Name a single more chad and prolific Doom Modder (spoilers you cant)

>>9226707
The dev of Project MSX.

>>9226709
MSX or MSFix'd?

https://datanon.itch.io/babel
Goddamnit fuck I did it, here you go, if I spend any longer tweaking this I'm going to go mad.
Huge changelog posted to the devlog section if you really wanna read that shit.
3 files included
>ProjectBabel+_20220901235534.pk3
The mod
>ProjectBabelNoTitlemap+_20220901235534.pk3
The mod but I took out the titlemap and titlemap music
>ProjectBabel_Monsters+_20220901235452.pk3
Just the monsters.
Please use at least GZDoom 4.2, tested and works on the latest as well though. Shouldn't be any version locking unless Graf decides to blow up menus again or some shit. Bear in mind that anything but the monsters-only version is a FULL MOD so it'll probably break if you use it on a map with custom player classes. Custom content like monsters usually doesn't blow up, but they obviously won't have anything to use to interface with the fear/sync systems.
Tell me how broken it is in the comments of that page or here, and have fun. There is a significant nonzero chance that I fucked this up really badly and something is broken, just so you know.
>>9223978 I guess I should quote the news post.

>>9226719
MSX.
MSFix'd dev deserves some points for doing what he did. But the actual dev of MSX was a goddamn enigma.
>Dev comes out of nowhere
>High end productions for a Doom mod at the time
>Well done model ripped sprites with solid animations
>Gameplay design and overall tech that rivals even Zscript mods nowadays
>Just a good fucking mod all around, super punches are cool as fuck
>Dev just vanishes without a trace

>>9226723
Nice work on the trailer. Short, sweet, and punchy.

>>9226728
It took so long that I'm dreading making the other video where I explain all the mechanics. Good god I was not made to edit videos.

>>9226707
Ijon Tichy, dude's an ACS warlock, does fucking incredible shit and pretty much just operates in the background, doing his own thing.

>>9226725
I vaguely remember it doing stuff like pushing you upwards to simulate a jump before shit had proper jumping.

>>9226737
Ijon's a good pick too. I've stolen a lot of good ideas from his mods. I got nothing but respect for that crazy bastard.

>>9226684
Impressive

>>9226707
Mark unironically could have been bigger and better if he wasn't such an egotistical fag.
>made what is still the most popular mod with normalfags
>got interviews with mainstream media over it
>not a fat fuck or an introverted sperglord
Problem is that he can't code for fuck, can't keep his mouth shut when it comes to hot opinions on things, and has an ego about as fragile as a glass spiderweb. Such a waste.
As much as I'm not a fan of the majority of his shit, Term does kinda qualify too, specifically for being ridiculously prolific.

>>9226751
He's making his own games now so I guess it turned out ok for him.

I'm fine with him really, he got a lot of people into Doom modding that wouldn't be here otherwise and practically every popular mod is a pile of crimes against scripting if you look under the hood.

>>9226753
>practically every popular mod is a pile of crimes against scripting if you look under the hood
Not to the degree of brutal doom. Seriously it's on a whole other level, even today. There's a reason only the insane and the incomprehensibly autistic make mods of it.

>>9226723
Nice work on the itch-io page. Gonna update now and give it a whirl.

>>9226768
When everything breaks in half, remember to tell me so I can help you unbreak it or fix it on my end :^)

>>9226740
TFW I still sometimes go back to the older builds of Dakka just because there's something neat about them.

>>9225738
One is newer than the other

>>9226775
What is it with people demonstrating shit in MAP01s yard?

>>9226756
I mean, there’s literally like 100 Brutal Doom derivatives on Moddb and the ZDoom forums alone. To a point it’s literally a meme there.

Even now some of those derivatives get millions of views on YouTube. Dude left a hell of a legacy.

https://youtu.be/XOpVO0Mc9Mo

>>9226781
Easy to get to. Just boot the game up, mash enter, noclip, hold S and D for a bit and you're there.

>>9226790
Need a pacifist server that's just the yard.

>>9226723
AH FUCK I BROKE THE MONSTERS ONLY PK3 I KNEW I FUCKED SOMETHING UP AAAA
I'll have it fixed in 5 minutes

>>9226797
Okay, fixed, fucking shit man. I tested the WRONG VERSION OF THE PK3 before uploading like a god damned idiot.

>>9226723
>In more detail, a good example of synchronization is Imps.
shouldn't this be "are Imps"

>>9226815
Example is single, but the noun is plural. Honestly, I dunno. Grammarly didn't flag it so I left it.

>>9226815
I changed it to "a group of imps" because you know what, that was kinda clunky.
I literally write as a hobby and my English is this fucking bad holy shit end me

>>9226821
It's all good man, you did bring up a good point. Writing is hard.

>>9226823
I've been churning out about 7000 words per day for almost three weeks now in an effort to finish up a big chunk before the currently releasing one finishes (so I have time to edit proper), and I think my hands are going to fall off. That, in addition to writing confluence docs for literal retards I work with who can't use a computer.
But hey, somehow I finished this up and I don't think it's overly fucked, so that's good.
I even managed to make pic related out of the absolute horror I posted last night which is way more readable.

>>9226707
Laz unironically was very prolific for his time, one of the really notable people of Wolfenstein modding in the 90s and early 2000s, and even some with Doom, porting some of his adventures to that engine.
Apparently he happened to fall on some really hard times right before coof happened (something about getting scammed out of payment for a bunch of work he did), I really hope he's doing ok.

>>9226751
I seriously think that Mark is good at mapping, and I would love to see him do a short episode of like MBF21 levels.

>>9226851
Genuinely he is, he has a great grasp of flow and detail. I have no idea why he doesn't map more often.

>>9226830
Dude had a passion for his Wolf mods, the fact that stuff like Artic Wolf still gets updated and remade in every source port shows his impact. Hell, I think there’a even a GZDoom remaster of all his old levels released like 2 years ago

Gotta appreciate that commitment. Hope he does get back on his feet.

>>9226707
That got me thinking, who is the most prolific Doom Modder of all time?

>>9226859
I'm gonna cast my vote on Xaser.

>>9226859
I guess Xaser really has to be up there, he's done big projects in ZDoom as well as Vanilla, with contributions to both ZDoom projects and Vanilla projects, for a very long time. He hasn't been around the longest, but he's just been very prolific, stuff like Zen Dynamics alone was outright groundbreaking in the community.

I'm sure there's other guys in the same league, but my mind is blank right now, and the first guy said Xaser, and he's definitely a good example. Uh, I suppose also Scuba Steve, back when he was more active in actually making Doom stuff? Not on the same level, but he had his own TCs and projects in the 90s and 2000s, and did various contributions to projects like Twilight Warrior, which could very loosely be described like the Hideous Destructor of the 90s.

Any mirrors of Wolfenstein X: Hearts of Liberty by v0rpal? It was hosted on ModDB but it's apparently dead now. internetarchive was no help

Just beat death wish for the first time. I didnt find all secrets. But im pretty sure the author didnt put the voodoo doll in one time. I kinda like using it sometimes

>>9226883
How'd you like it? The way people talk of it makes it come off like Blood's own Plutonia.

>>9226861
>>9226873
Xaser doesn't feel like the right answer. I think Paul Corfiatis is a closer pick, I counted 7 megawads.

>>9226891
Has he made any gameplay mods before? Because that guy asked "who is the most prolific Doom Modder of all time?"
I'd put modders and map makers into two categories here.

>>9226891
Oh right, shit, you're right, he's been around a really long time doing vanilla stuff and music for ages. I guess Xaser came to mind just for his wide range.

>>9226897
I consider modders and mappers to be essentially the same thing. If there were to be a separation, I'd probably combine mappers and gameplay modders into one category and then have source port and software devs as another category.

>>9226903
>I consider modders and mappers to be essentially the same thing
I sure as hell don't lump myself in with mappers. I have no fucking clue what I'm doing with the map making tools.
I still struggle with doors.

>>9226707
Probably Cyb in my opinion. MassMouth and Void were well-known early ZDoom wads that I can think of that influenced many map designers using the port.

>>9226907
That shit is pretty easy to learn. You oughta try out making a Boom map or something, maybe not now, but some day in the future, if nothing else because it's valuable experience since I know you wanna make your own games from scratch.
See it as practice.

>>9226907
Door is simple. Set the ceiling height to the floor height. The lines of both doors need to be facing outwards. Then, mark both lines with DR Open Door (1). Then, tag the line 1, and the door sector 1.

Difficult part is making levels that are fun to play. It's hard to tell, because Doom itself is fun to play, if the map is bad, you'll still usually have fun with the innate mechanics of Doom. It's hard to tell if the map is elevating the fun or not.

>>9226321
On here everyone would love it and maps would be full of them. Lotsa Boomers have a hateboner for UDMF.

>>9226887
It was pretty good. I liked it. Beat it on lightly broiled. Id play it again. Used nblood. Found the secret levels in episode 2 only. Didnt look up secrets or nothing.

>>9226916
I've posted it before but if you'd like, I could post the unfinished map I was working on years ago. Once you get into the basement and kill the monsters down there, you've hit the end.
Make sure to shoot the trees

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2pbyic8mfhvlc41/DumpMapWip4.pk3?dl=1

>>9226907
>anchor textures of the doors sides
>drag door bottom (roof) to ground
>cover door animation with either a second slim wall with a lowered roof or just lower the roof of the entire room to hide it
>assign line def action "door: generic" to door lines that should be facing oppositely outwards
>note door thickness is usually between 8 and 16 pixels
thats a formula for a basic door, you might enjoy checking out chubz doomer if you ever do want to get more into mapping

sussy

How to play Duke 3D online? Aside from Steam editions

>>9226928
Best played with the YTP weapons mod imo

>>9226940
YANG

https://www.moddb.com/games/duke-nukem-3d/news/yang-duke3d-multiplayer

But I haven't used it since 2010 so idk if its still alive. Works for Blood too.

>>9225592
>>9225581
SWTWC it is then . .
>Masque
Gonna grab it later once the time comes, I need to mention how crazy SoE arena mode becomes when you download the Soul of Evil Reloaded mod - as it has an interesting tweak added to default Knight AI by ginving then a Rottie/Fiend styled jump-attack to spice things up, and was wondering if the VR-anon could try doing something with it for the possible v2.0
ClockTower will become super-nasty with those dudes getting revamped

>>9224887
Here's an endoom. It's largely inspired by the endoom from plutonia 2. Feedback and suggestions are welcome.
https://files.catbox.moe/o3md0m

>>9226779

actually, one is the uk release, the other is us

>>9226974
looks real cool, maybe add some darker gray or black scratches at the edges of the screen, on the lower half, to make it look a little bit deeper

>>9226993
I didn't want to use dithering characters since they don't really work well with the half-cell characters I've used everywhere else, so unfortunately there aren't any darker greys. I tried it with black and I still think it works pretty well. This also gave me the idea to add bullet holes and make the whole thing more worn looking. Hopefully it doesn't effect readability.
https://files.catbox.moe/9mm0qh

>>9227051
Sweet bulletholes.

Hey what's the option to remove the "steps" from scrolling ingame in dsda-doom? I mean the white text list on the right side of the screen, a new line appears whenever the PC does an action

>>9226572
That's a nice chaingunner.

>>9225870
If i had a berserk pack...i would fuck it

>>9226461
Please tell dear anon, what the fuck is this?

>>9226304
Basically all Community Chests.

>>9226707
Skillsaw
>starts mapping at 1998, much before legendary giants like Erik Alm, Eternal or Xaser
>member of TeamTNT, the most known Doom mapping/modding of 90s
>participating on Zdoom projects at 00s
>at 10s makes 4 cacoward winning projects, which were biggest influence for new school of mappers and most acclaimed and known wads of the whole decade
>still 23 years later at top of his mapping game and creates one of the best and prettiest wads: Heartland, which is also first quality map pack for Eternity Engine

Besides Matthias Worch, Iikka Keranen, Pinchy and YukiRaven, what other known Doom mappers created Quake maps?

I just want a doom mod that enhances the original game. does that exist?
>punching the air doesn't wake up every demon in the world
>cacos, barons, hell knights bleed their respective blood color
>sprite fixes (filling holes in sprites)
>additional sprites (zombiemen now have the correct sprite when you see them from a 3/4 angle on different sides)

>>9227269
Smooth doom?

>>9227242
How old is skillsaw?

>>9227254
Well, I di-
>well known
ah nevermind

>>9227269
Doom 2 sprite fixing project will solve a chunk of these.

>>9227196
A mod made by the new blood devs when they were Q2 modders many years ago.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041027042717/http://www.planetquake.com/stand/index.htm
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/idgames2/planetquake/stand/

>>9227336
amazing, this is what I was looking for, thanks.

>>9227336
Sprite fix is shit. SHHHIIIIIT!

>>9227343
Yeah I like the original lost souls too, and >>9227269 can open it up in Slade to delete them if he doesn’t like them either.

>>9227269
Making the fists silent is totally possible in Decorate. I'm not sure if it's also doable in Dehacked/MBF21.

>>9226907
>Ducktales - Moon Theme

>>9227384
MBF21 has code pointers for silent weapons. If I ever start my MBF21 project back up, I plan on making the Fist silent for a jailbreak map.

>>9226574
ketsui doom when?

auger;zenith is funfunfunf

>>9227390
I think a silenced pistol would be cool and make the weapon have a small purpose rather than none at all. Maybe match the fire rate to the chaingun, and implement that reloading proof of concept that one anon made a while ago.

Ok bros
How the FUCK does decorate work? I just want my pistol to deal double damage.
I loaded the doom wad. I searched in SLADE for "weapon" "pistol" "decorate" "guns" "items" etc and I couldn't find shit.
I can figure out the rest. just point me in the direction. where the FUCK is the decorate file in the doom 2 base wad?

>>9227462
Decorate is a ZDoom feature, why the fuck would it have any relevant files in the iwads from 1993/1994?
Look in gzdoom.pk3 or zandronum.pk3

>>9227475
obviously, friend, I got my words mixed up. I meant "how the fuck fuck does slade work". and also if I had any idea what I was talking about, I wouldn't be asking in the first place.
but still thanks, I found it.

>>9227483
Slade's "decorate tool" is just a text editor.
you can open up notepad and write the code that you need there. Please consider consulting the ZDoom wiki for documentation, although bewarned that you'll be yelled at for not using zscript because of all the cultists in there saying it's "easier".
Look up how another mod does its weapons. Or follow the various guides that there are on youtube or online. I believe wildweasel had some site with tips on how to make decorate weapons, but i'm not sure if they're still around.

>map gives you the BFG
>next room is a cyberdemon fight
>sigh and press quicksave
>die a few times trying to pull off the bfg trick but manage to pull it off
>consider that the fight wouldve been more interesting if you weren't given the bfg
>but you still had to use it because 80 plasma for a cyberdemon is too convenient

anyone else know that feel?

>>9227498
Both the bfg and cyberdemons were a mistake.

>>9226815
Grammarfag here. That anon's grammar was correct because "is" affects "example" and not "imps." (The imps ARE the example, but the example IS good.)

>>9227503
that makes sense

>>9227498
>anyone else know that feel?
Yeah, a cyberdemon when your best weapon is a plasma rifle would be more interesting, or at least a few cyberdemons when you do have the BFG. It’s the same sadness you can get when playing Doom 2 where 99% of encounters aren’t worth using more than the super shotgun and the 1% gets drowned in all the rockets and cells you’ve been hoarding in the playthrough.

>>9227516
Well, that last part in the parentheses is actually pretty retarded, and I shouldn't have added it. But the other point stands.

>Running Extermination Day with DoomKrakken Monster pack and Doom Incarnate weapons
>Any time i kill the korax "boss" enemy the level is completed
I dont think thats how its supposed to go,but sure ill take it

>>9226781
Convenient place to get to for testing while being lazy enough to not use a proper test map.
>>9226790
I used to go the extra mile in being lazy and had an edited version with a teleporter to there that was just directly behind the spawn point.

>>9227301
I have no idea.

The AMC Squad Episode Four Trailer released
https://youtu.be/ei2_ROlJAiw

>>9227627
>>9223978

>>9226950
It's dead, Jim
Is there anything else?

>>9227339
>Daikatana weapons in Q2
KMQ2 has a functional Shockwave hidden in the debug mode

Is the Quake remaster good or should I bother with a sourceport? Also while I'm at it, Blood Fresh Supply is still abandoned, right?