/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9219184
reggin po

>>9219184
Uhhh no hablo espanol?

>>9219184
Veren zol fun dir a blintse

Why do some people dislike this boss? I think that an endurance arena is a decent way to end the game.

>>9219250
Ehhhh, it's about on par with all of Doom 2. I don't think anyone's an actual diehard doom 2 fan, as in solely for doom 2 and not user made wads.

>>9219184
ekatsim a saw eerht mood

Shut up John ya fuckin’ gas jockey

>>9219250
I just hate that there's so much waiting for the opportunity to damage it and that it becomes unwinnable if you mess up too many times. It also feels less like a bossfight and more like following some kind of checklist.
I do like the idea that you can't just mow the boss down with BFG like in the first game. Then again the bosses in the first game actually have a chance to be more fun if you pistol start, unlike Icon of Sin.

>>9219250
id has never made a good boss fight ever, in the history of all their games, its the one thing Id has always been shit at

>>9220342
Hitler was pretty good.

>>9219184
Ok.

>>9220342
DOOM 1 boss fights were great because they were just big monsters you could pump rockets into until they died. boss fights dont need to be hard or have gay puzzle shit, just give me a big demon to kill to punctuate the experience.

remember how Randy Pitchford stole this easter egg, essentially comparing himself to John Romero?

>>9220529
>willingly comparing yourself to a manlet cuck who was fired from the only company he did any meaningful work at
i'm not sure that was the best move

>>9219184

taggof a si po

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>>9220342
The ones in doom '16 were okay.

>>9220526
>Doom 1 boss fight
>circle strafe with rockets
>great

>>9219250
It's minimally interactive and you can't play it a different way.

Also, the design logic castrates itself conceptually. The entire gimmick rests on being unable to shoot upward, which is oddly like leaning on an engine limitation like a feature, and doesn't even play by enemy rules because shooting upward is supposed to automatically happen. So the wall is trying to look like a giant intimidating enemy, but nobody can feel that way because the mechanics used to fight it strictly reinforce that it's just a wall and not a real thing because it literally wouldn't work otherwise. And they reinforce that the engine is limited instead of playing to its strengths.

>>9220694
>circle strafing the mastermind
Have fun dying, Jeb!

>>9219250
Because they slog through it spamming quicksaves and don't experience any tension of doing a no-death no save run in UV vanilla, or doing a pistol start no save.
Can't take anyone's opinion on classic doom seriously if they use vertical aim, opengl, vaseline filters, and spam quicksaves in jizzydewm.

>>9219184
What if
>Icon of Sin
>but it's part of The Living End and spawns enemies at you as you climb to the top

>>9220772
How would you have done it taking into account the limitations of the engine?

>>9222608
Obviously add some special handling for this boss inside the engine, like they've done with D'Sparil in Heretic, who reacts differently to different weapons.

Only the first Doom was really fun to play/explore. 2 looks like a bootleg and 3 is just a Halo ripoff with demons.

I want to try 64, but my Game Pass expired yesterday and I will wait until M$ offer me another 3 months for 5 bucks.

>>9219184
upscaled and tweaked levels for wallpaper

>>9222937
Holy shit you're retarded.

>>9222608
Make a placeholder enemy that counts as a real enemy for the weak spots, so you shoot up at it as needed like any enemy. Use switches and level puzzles to retract armor covering said weak spots. The last one is where the brain is, so we are exposing the brain on it. Increase the spawning every time one of these phases is complete, so that the time pressure of the boss is more threatening. Make the thing emit a deafening roar every now and then.

>>9219184
i dont speak albanian

I always considered it iconic, since the first time I played in the 90s, there's this urgency to keep moving, because the bugs gonna keep on coming, just like in Aliens

Icon of Sin was always shit and any IoS map will always be shit. The only acceptable variant is the one in Plutonia.

It's what you get when you dish out a quick sequel for bucks and don't to invest time and effort in an actual boss material.

>>9223154
Lookin' good

>>9219185
FPBP, holy shit

>>9219184
FWOOSH!

>>9219185
fpbp

>>9220980
>hide behind pillar
>pop out of cover
>fire rockets or BFG
>oh no he's getting close
>move to another pillar
>repeat

>>9220772
Weapons grade autism

>>9219184
Ruoy tnemhsinup rof Anatakiad, gaf.