/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9213228
The PS2 was known for its fast loading times, yours was broken or your discs were scratched.

>>9213228
zoom zoom

>>9213228
My first consoles were genesis and snes and i had ps1, n64, ps2, dreamcast, cube, xbox, ps3, wii u, ps4. There's only been a handful of load times that stood out to me.
On the n64 quake64 had lengthy load times. I found out recently it's longer than even the saturns load times because it is decompressing data.
I had a scratched crash 2 that would occasionally freeze before the title screen loaded in fully so I had to skip the animation.
Rainbow 6 3 on the gamecube has insanely long load times, several minutes iirc.
Xbox can load very fast if the data is cached
Ps3s store takes long to load and only got worse over time
Ps4 can take a minute for a game to start
Wii u takes forver to load even the main menu

>>9213228
idk, never really had any because i played newer consoles physically, so it wasn't an issue
although, not a fan of the ingame loading times in mega man x4
wasn't that long but when it wasn't in the last three games it's kinda dumb even if the ps1 requires it

>>9213413
Oh and gta on ps2 had lont start up loads but after that it's fast. I never minded these load screens for some reason, I guess it was the art. I remember always looking for something in the art, more detail or hints at characters and the world. San andreas was the worst for this. Playing the games on xbox makes them load super fast when cached.

I don't remember many long load times that vividly since I expected them and considered it normal. MGS4's installs that take 15-20 minutes was probably the one time where I got seriously annoyed but that only happened 5 times and wasn't really a loading screen.
Literally sat and watched Snake smoke the same cigarette since I had nothing to do in the meantime unless I dug out a gameboy or DS.

>>9213228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J7OXUtIfbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6UuoS9keOc

When I close my eyes I still hear this music in my head

>>9213413
>Wii u takes forver to load even the main menu

Man that console was a lot of fun at the time but god the WiiU really is so awful about load times. Not only was the disc drive fucking slow the internal storage was too. Games actually ran faster if they were installed to an external HDD connected by USB2, it was stupid. That console couldn't do ANYTHING without making you wait at least 30 seconds first.

The only saving grace about the WiiU's load times was that when you start a game it would show a splash screen with music playing (for like 30 seconds), to at least try and keep you from getting bored. I grew to really like the Wonderful 101 splash screen with the mission briefing music playing, I wish every version of the game did that when you start it.

>>9213228
The PS2 games with bad loading time that I recall : Commandos 2, nfsu2, enter the matrix, mercenaries (first load upon boot up) and RE outbreak 1 and 2
Dreamcast soldier of fortune take ages to load

>>9213228
I think a lot of DOS games have aged really well simply because DOSBox does a pretty good job of guessing what CPU speed to use to make the games the most enoyable. And if it's too slow (or too fast) you can just set it to an ideal speed manually.

Loading times were worse in CD era PS2 > PS1

You kids don’t understand anything. I had an Amstrad CPC 464. This thing could sometimes take 15-20 mins for some games to load from tape.
Anything from floppy drive onwards this stuff is a non-issue.

Ps2 had a dairly fast dvd read speed the problem was its access speed was super shoddy so if devs didnt purpusfully use repeat data or burn the disc in a pattern you get insanely long load times
Lots of xbox games either asked you to cache data or secretly did it behind a long first time intro
Gc was fairly fast one of re4s deals was kicking open doors bwcause of how fast loads where compared to ps1
Dc did have long loads mainly cause its disc loads where held back by being cd based and not much better than the ps1

Japanese version of Astro Boy on ps2 take arond 2-4 minutes to load depend on size of the map but they this in west version

And no, i'm not exaggerating and my disc was brand new at the time

ps2 definitely had bad loading times. on gta SA, if you'd use too many codes and speed through a highway/city/street, eventually things would stop loading and you could potentially freeze up the game or fall through and be unable to do anything.

The PS1 version of Mortal Kombat Trilogy has to stop to load so often that they actually included a bunch of settings purely for toning them down, most notably disabling (or at least limiting) Shang Tsung's transformations because, of course, the game has to load every single one.

>>9214994
Why would you even play games on something clearly not meant for them?

>>9213228
PS2 has nothing on Neo Geo CD. Those games take minutes to load sometimes

>>9213228
My worst experiences:
Same as >>9214994 A friend's Amstrad CPC 464 with tapes when we were kids.
5 discs Baldur's Gate on my low-end Pentium. Roughly 10 minutes to load a new zone, so I read a book during loading.
After this even PS1 or 2 games were alright. I only remember Rival Schools having very long loading times for a PS1 game.

>>9213228
Load times ruined the PlayStation ports of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6. It took 30 seconds every time you opened the menu. For some reasonthe ports of FF 4 and 5 were not affected by this.

>>9217485
This stands out to me as the worst. If it's a long load time when starting or between levels I can deal with that. But when it's a long load for a function that you need to use constantly then it severely detracts from the game.
A similar example is loading the map on the Saturn version of Symphony of the Night.

>>9217485
Completely wrong, you've never played these ports.

>>9217518
lmao I literally pre ordered both collections when they were new. But go on, tell me more about what I have and have not played.

>>9217527
You've never played them and are repeating dumb fuck memes from GameFAGS because you are a dumb impressionable faggot that listens to fanboys. Here's your "30 second" load times btw. I counted about 4 or 5. Sooo long. Chrono Trigger is the only one with any problems due to how quick the transitions are in battles, and the only problem are battles. CT loads for a few seconds once a battle is initiated breaking the flow of the game, it's very apparent and not good feeling. FF6 is completely playable. You've never touched these versions of the game because menus are unaffected you fucking retard.

Never post again. I will rape you.

>>9217552
I can see the autism is strong with you. Just because I didn't clock the load times with a stopwatch and instead estimated/exaggerated it to 30 seconds doesn't mean I didn't play the games. The webm you posted is 50% black load screen and I'm willing to bet you captured it from an emulator and not real hardware, which would speed up the load time since there is no spinning disc involved. On top of all of that, anyone used to the SNES versions of these games would notice the load times and rightfully call them out. Zoomers like you who weren't even alive when Chronicles and Anthologies released shouldn't be allowed to post here.

>>9217585
real hardware, just accept you lost. Even tested several revisions.

>>9217586
>real hardware
Prove it you cock smoking faggot.

>>9217586
>tested several revisions
So you have multiple physical versions of the game? Or are you completely full of shit and using ROMs? I'm going with full of shit given how angry you are over a discussion about load times.

>>9217595
>>9217593
What makes these people so angry? Getting caught in their lies is. Maybe you shouldn't lie? Try doing that.

Worst loading times I've experienced was playing Half-Life 2 on XBOX. They were bad already on PC at the time, so imagine on a console that barely could handle the game.

>>9217597
I can post a picture of a playstation too, that proves nothing. Show us the multiple copies of the games you used to test the different revisions.

Wrath of Cortex on PS2 had really long loads
https://youtu.be/fJqSbPFIQpM

>>9217597
Running roms off of a boot drive on a PSX is not "original hardware" you fucking tool. Why are you trying to gaslight people about load times in 20 year old ports of 25 year old RPGs? Pathetic.

>>9217603
Nope, already proven my point with real hardware capture. You have to find these 30 second load times before you can ask someone to do what they want for you. It's that simple. I'm going to go out on a limb here, you're one of those huge nintendo fanboys that is trying to upsell their FF6 with a dead battery and dismiss all other versions, right? Chrono Trigger too? Pathetic reseller scum.

What about these little interactive things in the loadings? I think there is a Tekken that comes with a simple shooting gallery bonus on the first load, kinda nice

>>9217616
I remember playing Galaga on the Tekken loading screen and thinking the future had arrived and then I never saw another game do that. And that makes me sad.

>>9217615
You keep making the oddest assumptions. I can only assume you're projecting. Are you trying to sell your copies of Chronicles and Anthogies and you don't want people knowing there are much better ways to play those games?

>>9217615
You didn't prove anything you dumb fuck. In fact, your pic proves you're not running original hardware and are in fact running roms. Eat shit and die you fucking loser. lol lmao

>>9217623
Nope. Your failure to deny these basic things is telling however. Why lie so much about a game you clearly never played? It's weird.

>>9217626
The webms you posted to disprove me actually prove my point that the load times in those ports are atrocious. Sorry I triggered your autism by claiming they were 30 seconds instead of precisely timing them out for you. This is by far the most retarded argument I've ever had on this website and I've been here since 2007.

>>9217628
Thank you for conceding, that's all it took.

>>9217630
I didn't concede anything. The load times in FF6 and Chrono Trigger for PSX are bad. Thank you for posting Webms to prove my point.

>>9217636
>I didn't concede anything
>claiming they were 30 seconds instead
concession accepted

>>9217639
Why do autismos struggle with generalizations so much? I'd yeet myself into the nearest dumpster fire if I were even half as autistic as you.

>>9217643
>UGH ITS SOOOO LONG AND LENGTHY!!
>THIRTY SECONDERINOES!!!
>turns out its 4 or 5 seconds
>SOOOOOOO LOONG
quake 64 has longer load times lmao

>>9217650
Quake 64 load times are bad too. 6 second load times in the port are 6 seconds longer than the originals, that's bad. Why does this rustle your jimmies so badly?

>>9217654
>6 second load times
4-5 :)
>Why does this rustle your jimmies so badly?
why does it rustle yours?
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>>9217643
all these posts just to be angry that a game you said has 30 second load times does not. Isn't that a good thing? It's good that you're an idiot and are easily proven wrong. Being wrong about these things benefits everyone. It kills a bad meme that never should have perpetuated because resellers wanted to raise the value of their plastic. Being less angry about being BTFO like this ultimately improves the classic gaming scene for everyone. Why do you want to make it worse for everyone?

>>9217650
>turns out its 4 or 5 seconds
Only if you're using a ROM instead of the original disc, and 5 second load times are pretty bad for a game running off of a drive. Imagine how bad the real version of the game is.

>>9217662
>Only if you're using a ROM
It's the same length with an original and burned discs. I've tried them all. You have offered 0 proof btw, so you lose.

>>9217657
Literally everyone who has played these ports knows you're full of shit. Why are you still trying?

>>9217665
>Literally everyone
No one has played these ports it seems if the estimates for 4 second loading times are thirty fucking seconds. Why are you so obsessed with keeping this going? You got BTFO in the second reply. Do you like the abuse or something?

>>9217664
>It's the same length with an original and burned discs.
That's not true for any game ever. Burned discs always load slower. Why do you just keep lying? If you want to be right so badly, have you ever considered knowing what you're talking about?

>>9217670
>Burned discs always load slower
Weird, for me it was about 4-5 seconds for these things...same as a real disc....guess you were full of shit the entire time. Feel free to post proof proving it wrong. You don't deal with getting caught in a lie very well.

>>9217672
>the smartest autist on /vr/

>play through NFSU2 on PC
>gift it to cousin for PS2
>stop playing after three races because of the horrid load times
Thank fucking God I wasn't a console kid. That said there were times when my PC was mismatched for the games of the time, too. Mafia free roam took like two minutes to load before I got an upgrade.

>>9217672
Nobody who reads my post actually thinks I meant 30 seconds literally. You thinking an exaggeration is tantamount to lying is why you don't have any friends in real life and you will never touch a woman without catching a charge.

>>9217681
>nobody believes my bullshit any more
weird thing to complain about lol

>>9217714
You must be 18 or older to post here.

>>9213228
The intro loading screen in GTA San Andreas is actually just a 30 second timer.

>>9217731
Actually, I just checked it and you're wrong, it's only 29.7 seconds. How dare you lie to 4chan like that, you are literally Hitler! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>9213228
>in GTA Vice City now I need to wait for like 1 minute
i dont think anyone used to care about them until recently when everyone made a big deal out of them.
i remember a lot of times just getting something from the kitchen before going back to the console, and the loading would be just finishing and i thought that was good timing

>>9218051
Getting high during loading screens used to be a lot easier that's for sure.

>>9218136
that was definitely fun when sailing in wind waker

>>9213413
>Ps3s store takes long to load and only got worse over time
>Ps4 can take a minute for a game to start
>Wii u takes forver to load even the main menu
>>9213721
>WiiU

Oldfags were right, 6th gen should never be retro because of the idiots who bring up shit like 7th and even 8th gen unprompted.

>>9217552
Dude that's slow as fuck. Maybe it's playable to you but not in a fun way.

>>9215559
It was made for games. There were hundreds of games. You got conversions of most arcade games. Tape loading was not uncommon on 80s computers. You really had to wait a long time. Complaints about loading times of seconds or a couple of minutes is meaningless in the face of the true horrors of threads past.

>>9218162
7th gen is already on the verge of being considered retro. Cope and seethe you boomer faggot.

>>9218163
Running makes up for it.

>mexican zoomer that got memed into playing shitty PS1 ports of SNES games can't understand why dealing with 4 second loads for random battle ladden RPGs is annoying
kek, you're probably the same type of retard that thinks PC ports of console games will always be superior because of mustard race faggotry lmao

>>9218189
At least we'll get the chance to take a huge shit on your zoomer consoles daily so there's that. You're a parody.

>>9218235
People here shit on the previous 6 generations daily, is this supposed to offend me?

>>9213228

well i played through morrowind multiple times on xbox, so....i did have a good pc at the time, but i had one of those wireless xbox controllers, so ability to play while stoned on couch trumped the need for graphical fidelity.

One of the worst I've experienced is soldier of fortune for dreamcast

>>9217620
Fantastic Four did something similar.

>>9215026
I remember this game being really fun as an Astro Boy obsessed kid. Been reluctant to play it again in concern it might not be as good as I remember. Turns out a lot of people hate this game.

>>9214802
all PC emulation greatly improves an old game experience. hell even installing an OS can take 2 minutes instead of the original 2 hours.

>>9217616
Namco actually owns the us patent for "interactive loading screens" which is supposedly why we don't see those that often.
The more you know.

>>9217616
>>9217620
Wasn't there some bs where Namco filed a copyright over minigames in loading screens?

Invade A Loader was a little space invaders clone some games loaded from tape had on microcomputers.