/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Deadline extended, see picture
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

=== NEWS ===
[8-17] GOG versions of Doom now offer re-release ports
https://twitter.com/GOGcom/status/1559903276094656513

[8-17] Voxel Doom is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-voxel-project/addons/voxel-doom

[8-12] The guidelines for the Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1558056148795887618

[8-12] Quakespasm-Spiked has been updated
https://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

[8-11] Circadian Offset released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/circadian-offset-full-release/news/circadian-offset-full-release

[8-10] Various id games and their expansions are being merged into one install package on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2280/announcements/detail/3370400926531461244

[8-8]Coppertone Summer Jam 2 for Quake released(Copper for Quake required)
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/coppertone-summer-jam-2.103/

[8-8]The Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here and open for submissions!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1556598386110906369

[8-6]Nostalgia a 32 map megawad was released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130681

[8-4]Giftmarcher releases a surprise Quake 2 map: The Drilling Station 161
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4171

[8-4]Lex Fridman interviews John Carmack for 5 hours
https://youtu.be/I845O57ZSy4

[8-4] Doom Wad Archive is shutting down :(
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130650
https://archive.org/details/wadarchive Archive Backup

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

I think I'm gonna default to HMP for most wads. Tired of revenant spam. Any wads specifically that have a UV similar in difficulty to Doom II that would be worth playing in UV instead?

>>9187708
it's a stealth mission

>>9187597
I feel its hard to find new continuous episodes and campaigns for quake - everyone has moved on to ad and violent rumble like giant maps not linked to others and campaigns are usually very old levels. I like Tronyn campaigns like arwop, soe and arcanum but even though they are linked and played as a campaign the levels are still fucking huge. There was also this one semi amateur quoth idbase campaign with medium size levels I really liked but I cant remember the name

>>9187709
Obvious D2TWID is obvious. Also, Revolution! is even easier than D2, I think.

>>9187709
NRFTL, DBPs

>>9187724
it shouldn't be
i bought this game to run around and shoot the good guys why am i not allowed to do that

>>9187772
Yeah this level sucks, thankfully it's not too long. Personally I just looked up the path to go and did it while abusing quicksaves in case something goes wrong randomly.

>>9187778
i eventually figured out that it isn't a matter of staying away from where they're looking, but just humping the edge of the map because they can't see that far, and praying they don't randomly hear your footsteps
still not going to ever play that dumb shit again

What are must play retro FPS for someone who was a kid in 90s but never got the opportunity to play those for being a poorfag but now has resources to do so?

>>9187870
Blood, Marathon trilogy, thief (not really and fps).

>>9187870
this reminds me. I've played HFFM just the other day, never played it before. God damn anons, good fucking job. It's amazing.

>>9187701

Actually, I'm sick of RCTW in general now.
Going in, I knew it was a precursor to the dark ages of FPS game design, but thought since it was built on Idtech and lumped in the "Retro FPS" category, there'd at least be smooth, clean-cut moving and shooting, and satisfying feedback when you hit stuff. Instead I was met with such joys as
>Soldiers that do not react to pain and keep shooting you with 75% efficiency despite having 12 bullets pumped into their torso and face.
>Guns that spread more than your mother.
>The inability to switch weapons during reloads and overheats.
>Overheating being a mechanic at all.
>Taking away my rifle crosshair to give me a scope that I can't even use while moving unless I disable autorun or crouch- Why the fuck doesn't it just lower your movespeed to walking tier and not cancel itself? Why? Fucking unusable without a toggle crouch script, but also completely necessary to win.
>Rockets that sometimes shoot 5 feet above where you're aiming.

At least the flamethrower is nice.

>>9187709
Plutonia/TNT

>>9187772
you can kill them from behind, just don't alert the others

>>9187930

>>9187989
>shoot tower guard with silenced smg from a distance but he doesn't die because the spread said no
>pulls alarm

>walk up behind tower guard
>shoot him dead with silenced smg
>ground guards see him fall and start shooting at me, remaining tower guard pulls alarm

>walk up behind tower guard same as last time
>pulls alarm before i can even climb the ladder to shoot him

>walk up behind guard same as last time
>shank him
>mysteriously this does not alert the other guards and i can actually kill the second tower guard to proceed with the mission

>>9188008
requesting this but it's doomguy with a health bonus potion instead of beer and a pinky or spectre gif is running into him instead of the car

>>9187709
Nostalgia

so any quakecon news?

>>9188106
watching the quake livestream rn, here's a quick rundown

>russian players are still banned from lan
>rapha pointed a railgun at pfizer hq for killing his wife and challenged their ceo to a duel
>killsen lost a single round and shit on his keyboard in anger (as germans do) then won the other two rounds after his purge
>psygib finally won a match and put on two pairs of sunglasses and chewed two gumballs in celebration
• clutch was removed from the game

i zoned out after that

>>9188158
I heard a quake 2 remake was gonna be shown, any news on that?

>>9187743
i kinda love D2TWITD sewers.
Also i wish that someone could update Doom:ONE on moddb

>>9188106
just QC championship of now, but is meh because of the retarded ban on russian players

>>9187270
Q2 fans are fine with quake 1, same goes to Q3A
The Quake 1 side since 2014 or so got dominated by fairweather and his fag friends shitting the community and inciting console wars shit over the games.
Even baker who used to be a nice Q2 and Q3A guy at quakeone forums started to hate once he started to hang with FW.
Also is said that FW is the reason of why Lord Havoc became "lady havoc".

>>9188160
later today once the celebrations start
https://quakecon.bethesda.net/en/schedule/

Whats do you think about voxel Doom guys? It does look like "3d models done right" to me, unlike various "real 3d" efforts in the past, like Doomsday

>>9188204
I have never played Doom nor Minecraft, so I don't have a point of reference, sorry!

>>9188204
They look like legos, they’re adorable and cute.

>>9188204
I'd had my eye on the dude's work for a long time, he's obviously put a lot of care into getting them to emulate the sprites.

A few things could be better but they're still far ahead of crap like the "vasyn" model replacements and shit like then.

>>9188204
>cacohole is FULLY MODELLED

>>9188204
I like them for the most part but there's something about the pinkies that look weird.

>>9188106
>>9188158
i thought the qc dev studio was russian, no?
god i hope this pointless war ends already because unless it involves actual deaths or how worldwide resources are handled, there are ways how it is not affecting people at all
and ukraine better build that aniki statue so i can forgive them to bring nikocado to the world, maybe
>>9188204
they do a good job at retaining the "feel" of the original while being three dimensional
a big problem with fanmade models is trying to be "hd" but ended up looking like characters from a fake videogame you'd see in law and order

I'm working on this shit again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMyBxK9a8_g
I swear every time I touch it something bad happens

>>9188237
They’ve done the “best” at retaining the feel of the monsters, but they still feel about as jarring as if they were Q1 idsoft quality. Some things also translate awkwardly, like how silly pinkies look when in your face and how rocket explosions look like some spaghetti pasta mishap.

>>9188268
I would say pinkies look silly and disproportional in original sprites too, just everyone got used to that.

>>9188294
Yeup, now it’s exasperated.

>>9187685
Doom 64 is free on the EGS:
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/doom-64

Post YFW you realized the demons were aliens all along.

what is the first use of "doomguy" or "doom guy" of all time?
who came up with that name?

I have an amazing idea for a doom wad but I don't know how to make maps, much less make it fun to play

i have an amazing idea for a game
it's doom but the hitscanners are stronger and the projectile and melee enemies dodge like in unreal if unreal were good

94 Protons Of /vr/
For those interested, go for broke! From August 11th to September 12th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6 (now works in Woof)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed (?)
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Optional Hunted style map: Unclaimed
We could have up to two of these if there's the interest for it. Feel free to be playful with the concept of an Arch-Vile labyrinth.

>Optional Dead Simple map: Finished
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 16 Maps!

To Do:
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>ENDOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.

>>9188204
They probably look pretty decent at the games native resolution.

>>9187685
>>9187687
94 Protons Of /vr/
For those interested, go for broke! From August 11th to September 12th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6 (now works in Woof)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed (?)
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Optional Hunted style map: Unclaimed
We could have up to two of these if there's the interest for it. Feel free to be playful with the concept of an Arch-Vile labyrinth.

>Optional Dead Simple map: Finished
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 16 Maps!

To Do:
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>ENDOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.

>>9187687
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/6BZ4kXCNDikWq0C4gBtyRy/nods-to-mods-interview-revolution
Revolution added to DOOM 2, also interview.

>>9187687
Here's the trailer for upcoming re-release of Chasm: The Rift and it will also be available on GOG. Not just Steam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjPqHQpiq1A
>>9188106
Earlier today I was like "Oh, QuakeCon is today?" The schedule leaves much to be desired. Not sure if we're going to get anything cool (on/off-topic for this thread) in first 15 minutes of the event ("Welcome to QuakeCon 2022" part). They might push the Wolfenstein 3D re-release at the last minute, but I think something about anything like that would've got leaked by now.
>>9188160
Just a rumor about a re-release, but don't get your hopes up.
>>9188237
>i thought the qc dev studio was russian, no?
Saber Interactive (St. Petersburg team, it seems) co-developed Champions, but they're not involved nowadays.

my favorite doom wall texture is the really pink intestines
i love intestines, they are wonderful
and you? are you also wonderful?

>>9187870
Doom obviously, Quake, Duke3D...
i'm leaving room for others to answer

>>9188376
desu. a bit rough for hi res and filtered graphics.

>>9188413
they also look like snakes or tentacles
>>9188397
they also released a trailer dedicated to the add ons in general
it looks goofy

>>9188342
the pentagrams dude. alien means from elsewhere not planet mars.
you have illegal aliens in your country right now.

>>9188421
They really do be looking like tentacles sometimes

>>9188431
Now I'm tempted to try to mod in the Day of the Tentacle tentacles as enemies.

>>9188421
>>9188431
>>9188413
intestaclesnakes

>>9188435
a DOTT/MM TC would be pretty noice.

>>9188421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MURe_9IAzc
looks fine
Also to everyone's ire, /vr/ is now more relevant than doomworld thanks to rekkr

>>9188435
didn't strange aeons do that as a secret?

>>9188401
> upcoming re-release of Chasm: The Rift
Hm, are they running out of good classic FPS to remaster? Remember Chasm being pretty crap back in 97. Will we see Witchaven and that StarTrek dude Build game re-released soon too?

>>9188462
Chasm is decent.

remaster rise of the triad
do it now

>>9188451
REKKR is the second best thing that happened around Doom during last 5 years. I will put only Wrath of Cronos higher. And I was playing REKKR first time without knowing it is from /vr/.

rekkr of the triad

>>9188467
Care to elaborate how it compares with Q1 and others? I never played it after growing up and only remember squarish small levels.

>>9188451
they could have used tracks from the wads ffs...

>>9187687
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1560305065683865600
Quake 4 update is out and is on PC game pass

>>9188462
They've run out of good ones for a while
>Will we see Witchaven
Bro...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1655410/Witchaven/

>>9188470
>I will put only Wrath of Cronos higher.
Shame the developer of that is so weird and quiet, it's hard to know when it's been updated or what has changed.

I've also been tempted to knock out a patch for it to make it work with Rekkr.

>>9187687
Threewave Added to Quake remaster with new goodies
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2310/announcements/detail/3337750462906016220
Quake Champions left Early Access too

>>9188496
So i've seen in an other thread mention that the remaster has broken physics, is this true?

>>9187687
1. Quake's re-release just got another update that added stuff like Threewave Capture The Flag with nine classic maps and the ability to "make your own dating sim in the engine".
https://twitter.com/Quake/status/1560297418972864513
https://twitter.com/mikerubits/status/1560304126302605313
2. Rubicon 2 is added as an Add-on for Quake.
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1560297992841732096
3. Revolution! is added as an Addo-on for DOOM re-releases.
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1560292923090018306

>>9187739
I have a retarded dream to remake Aftershock with either Keep content-pack of the VR mod since last year, but I am too stupid to even tweak the maps in any .bsp editor programme

>>9188204
They're fantastic. Not sure I'll use them on PC, but I was incredibly happy to see it running on my Quest 2 headset. Sprites are jarring to look at in VR, so I'm glad to finally have a set of "3d models" that is so faithful to original art.
And then left controller stick started drifting. Fuck.

>>9188508
>"make your own dating sim in the engine"

>>9187870
DOOM,quake, blood and duke are the obvious picks.

>>9188481
I only see it being released on GamePass, nothing about update.

>>9188508
>Quake's re-release just got another update that added stuff like Threewave Capture The Flag
You mean Dissolution of Eternity base feature that was removed for no reason?
Yay. Maybe they'll unblock TDM setting at some point too.

>>9188556
I think they merged hipnotic and dissolution into the maps

it be nice to see the plasma gun and the laser gun in some maps.

>>9188556
>>9188562
>>9188496
>>9188508
realistically, is there a chance that we'll ever see Shrak in there?

>>9187870
goldeneye, perfect dark (both are emulated with keyboard and mouse controls), turok 1, 2, doom 64, these 3 ones are on pc
turok 3 can be emulated with mouse too but is not anywhere as smooth as ge/pd

>>9187870
DOOM 1 and 2
Duke 3d
Shadow Warrior
Blood
Half-Life 1, Opposing Force
Quake 1
Soldier of Fortune 1 for certain

>>9187870
kingpin, kiss psycho circus

>>9188451
>Also to everyone's ire, /vr/ is now more relevant than doomworld thanks to rekkr
makes things funny because of how /v/ yells at modern doom for being "reddit", how bethesda led to 4chan banning people posting "leaks" that come from when conan obrian player doom 2016 and the theory that a 4chan screenshot helped created the doomslayer

>>9188580
man the first time i played the SOF demo, the subway with the skinheads, the music, atmosphere and gore, man one of my most intense gaming experience up there with my first time with Doom or Sonic...

>>9188578
No
You will get every single map by czg and you will be happy

>quake became a footnote even on its update news
>no mention of qc
>Q2 like Q3 were ignored on its anniversary
>all about arkane's garbage game and ESO
Quakecon is dead and i blame marty and his faggot ass haircut for this

>>9188584
i wish the Doom community wasn't such a mess, eh at least it's not Quake community levels of mess.

>>9188591
shame quakespasm crashes every time i roll the mouse wheel to change weapons

>>9188001

>>9188592
Apparently QC may have a console release now. I don’t think they’ve had a similar type of game to play since 2016’s Doom. I’m curious how it would be received, and that curiosity is purely cynical.

>>9188594
At least it's fragmented to fuck now so you can pick and choose the shards that aren't full of aids.

>>9188620
Oh no be careful of his eye!

>>9188623
but no mention of it even at the opening ceremony.
This digital shit is literally a bethesda only event with id's brand as hostage.

>>9188637
Quakecon is about Quake in name only now.

Probably just as well, just look what they tried to do to Commander Keen.

>>9188482
Oh wow, never bothered to check, I mean I expected that Kex engine stuff with gamepad support and Switch version. This one seems to be Eduke based, fun to see ETTiNGRiNDER in credits on Steam. Also as I understand, WH is not supported on Raze, last time Graf wanted to include it, he actually played the game and decided against it. I've played it with Dosbox and Bmouse.

>>9188637
>>9188646
Why wouldn’t they call just call it like “Bethfest” or something at this point?

SOD's 7th level is the worst level in human history and that's a fact.

>>9188662
Who knows, running the brand into the dirt at this point.

>>9188662
They need need to assimilate blizzard next year, so that will happen soon, once they assimilate blizzcon too.
Todd is the mythic dawn incarnate.

>>9188594
No matter how bad Doom's community gets, I think to myself at least it will never be as bad as Quake's where the most interesting thing to talk about is discord screencaps.

Anybody knows some cool gameplay mods that maybe don't TOTALLY change the guy but just make it fresh enough to maybe replay original Doom and Doom 2 on UV with fast monsters.

>>9188506
The physics aren't really 'broken' anymore (they kinda were at release) but something definitely feels off when moving compared to common sourceports. Might just be post-processing adding a little frame latency.

>>9188592
no quake 2 remake? is this quakecon or not

>pay money for freeware fps
>receive inferior version
Many such cases, sad!

>>9188697
Babel’s the best in this regard, but I’d try it without fast monsters first because it also changes the enemies. There’s also Final Doomer if you just want different weapon sets, and High Noon Drifter if you want to be the Dark Tower gunslinger - neither of those two change the monsters, just the player end. Then there’s Combined Arms and GMOTA for more craziness.
There’s Dakka too but it makes you real strong

>steam pretends doom always had 4 episodes

>>9188721
It has been having 4 episodes for longer than you are on this earth

>>9188731
it's still weird to drop the "ultimate" part

Mmm based?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Epic_Games_Store

I've seen people make their dream weapon roster, but what about making the shittiest weapon roster you can (that adheres to Doom conventions or something similar)?

Like
>Shit Fucking Melee 1 / Shit Fucking Melee 2
>Shit Fucking Secondary
>Shit Fucking Normal Shotgun / Shit Fucking Special Shotgun
>Shit Fucking Automatic Weapon
>Shit Fucking Explosive Weapon
>Shit Fucking Energy Weapon
>Shit Fucking Super Weapon

>>9188743
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Extreme_Weapon_Pack

>>9188746
Each from the unmodded version of different games, preferably.

>>9188685
>quake and duke forums rarely active
>half life forums mostly dead
Do people actually believe discord is a good alternative?

>>9188763
To them it's free* and gives them a walled garden they can control out of public view and circlejerk to their hearts content.
*it's not free, you're the product

>>9188713
>GMOTA
>don't TOTALLY change the guy
maybe as doom slayer but his shell economy vs all the other ammo types is totally different so that does change how you would play

>>9188743
Unless you mean something like the worst of everything between various shooters, what about an entire weapon pack themed around zip guns or some shit that function a bit differently but end up being weaker or less reliable than usual? I mean, people are able to make things like 3D-printed recoiless rifles these days, although plasma and BFG replacements might have to take some liberties. Include some variants that are potentially as harmful to Doomguy as they are to the demons.

>>9188785
Also replaces the enemies unless you use kick that in the head.

>>9188785
>>don't TOTALLY change the guy
Oops, yeah I just wanted to plug those and Dakka and by that point I forgot what the person was initially asking for.

>>9187870
nolf 1 and 2, avoid the expansion

>>9188763
>>9188780
discord is a dangerous place, it brings cultish and gremlin behaviors i've witnessed it to dangerous degrees...

>>9188743
>Doom non-berserkable fist with vanilla hit detection
>Doom pistol
>Doom 3 shotgun / STALKER sawn-off
>TEH KLOBB
>Strife micro rocket launcher
>Stormtrooper rifle from Dark Forces 3
>the shockwave grenade launcher from Daikatana that kills you
Behold the Chimera of Shit

>>9188808
This, it's bad for modding communities and it's really fucking bad for game developers.

Still funny that the Project Brutality one got burned because the admin fell for a steam happy hour tier free game scam.

>>9188815
>Dark Forces 3

>>9188594
I think the reason why the Doom community even has any sort of drama or ego trips is because of the kind of series it's based off.
There's a few things associated with Doom that were either made by fans or just the public, that either affected the series officially or just the image in the pop culture zeitgeist or whatever you call it.
Like nicknames such as Doomguy, Pinky, they way how some source ports, mods or settings affected perceptions of the game, certain sites, fanmade ports of almost lost games, reverse engineering, the ports in non-gaming devices, a mobile port by Carmack that even used a fork of PrBoom, even shit like memes and reaction images, Hissy, the second Doom wiki and much more.
You could say it's why newer Doom fans are more performative of their Doom fanboyism despite being less "meaningfull" because of the culture of internet "influencers" and modern nerd culture they grew up around.
But how modern fans are can also be traced to Slayers Club marketing.

From left to right: Health bonus, stimpack, medikit, berserk, computer area map, radsuit, light amplification visor.
Unreplaced items include all armor, megasphere, soulsphere, invulnerability, and the backpack.

>>9188817
damn. yeah it's also easy to compromise people and even full servers. guys have no idea of the kind of people roaming down there...

>>9188817
>Still funny that the Project Brutality one got burned because the admin fell for a steam happy hour tier free game scam
lmao

>>9188827
That's why you don't bother with huge/public servers and just stay in touch with your friends.
God help you if you decide to host a server, because it is the internet equivalent of herding fascist cats.

>>9188662
"Quake" is associated with good games, "Bethesda" is associated with buggy piles of shit and anti-consumer practices.

>>9188825
How does the crystal ball look animated? And what is the lite-amp suppsoed to be?

>>9188839
The light amp is a torch, similar to Heretic.

>>9188713
On a related note: what's a fun op mode that would be fun to play on NM? Where you would actually have a chance without autistically memorizing and perfectly executing each action

>>9188840
Light amp

>>9188821
your last points can be felt real hard on the subreddit. i can't even browse there anymore...

> the level is LE ARCH VILLE THEMED LEVEL
> alt+F4
> load up russian overkill, switch to HMP

>>9188835
>That's why you don't bother with huge/public servers and just stay in touch with your friends.
i've seen small servers being compromised and cancerified tho.
>it is the internet equivalent of herding fascist cats
lel

>>9188697
I've quite liked Doom Tournament (UT weapons and music) recently, weapons models conversion is perfect there and I always liked UT minigun. Aso rifle plazma explosion can add some new experience to classic maps.

>>9188743
>stun prod that needs batteries and doesn't work against enemies wearing armor unless you touch exposed flesh - also will only stun enemies for a second or put them to sleep for a minute after repeated shocks
>large machete that takes forever to swing and just clanks off metal armor
>literal taser, shares batteries with prod and has the same effect on enemies
>wrist-mounted mini-shotgun that loads and fires one shell at a time and has massive spread due to incredibly short barrel
>same thing, but for your other wrist and you can fire both at the same time with even more spread
>an Uzi, but you hold it sideways and it fans left to right and back again in a 45 degree arc every 10 shots or so
>a mine launcher, but the mines have to drop to the ground and take a second to have their legs latch into place before they arm and can explode - bouncing right off enemies if hit directly and not working at all if they land upside-down
>a rocket launcher where you have to control each rocket manually via a tiny camera feed and it ignores your sensitivity setting - also shares ammo with the mine launcher
>plasma rifle but the shots fizzle out after a few meters - shares batteries with the taser and prod
>Quake 3 BFG but extremely slow and also uses batteries - 50% of your max capacity per shot

>>9188849
>RO in 2022
Try Dakka or any of pillowblaster's newer mods

>>9188840
>>9188846
Crystal ball looks good. Not really feeling the lite-amp though.

>>9188431
lewd!

>>9188862
They aren't as varied as RO

>>9188743
>>9188815
To make the shotgun even worse, turn it into the Halo 3 one.

>>9188743
>Quake 2 Chainfist
>Deus Ex PS20
>TFC Single Shotgun, SW2013 ZICS-C Shotgun with the quad barrel upgrade
>RTCW STEN
>RoTT Excalibat
>Painkiller Electro, complete with its stupidly low amount of ammo pickups
>I don't know any superweapons that are actually terrible.

>>9188867
What do you suggest for the light amp? I didn't put much effort in because I know nobody's gonna use it anyway

>>9188708
Doom has never been "freeware". Only shareware. Not the same.

>>9188825
>>9188846
The stalker suit seems a bit out of place and the torch looks more like a prop from some mapset rather than a powerup.
The flames could be bigger and it being more visible in general would help. The vanilla lightamp could be seen from a relative distance despite being so small because of how bright and wide it was, kinda like a medkit.

>>9188708
Din't I tell you last thread that doom is NOT freeware? There's just nothing wrong with pirating it or any other software.

>>9188918
An oil lamp maybe? Just to play into the gothic theme.
Give me a few minutes to whip something up.

>>9188930
i swear it has to be the same anon

>>9188919
>>9188930
>>9188936
ten years ago i googled "download doom 2 wad" and it was the first link
there weren't even any ads or fucky adware bait installers it was just there clean and free because they realized nobody sane would buy something so ancient and gave it away instead
how is it not freeware if id doesn't even try to get such a link off the front page of results
it isn't piracy if it's that easy it's just free dude

>>9188928
the radsuit looks like it goes with the weapons being early 20th century antiques, not all the items have to be completely low-tech

>>9188948
yeah kek i remember this link, may have been a small wad repository. i've bought the games too many times to know it's not freeware tho...

>>9188763
I just use discord to spy on communities. Rarely ever say shit.

>>9188890
"Varied" is a funny way to spell "bloated" but you are correct there.

>>9188835
I've herded fascist cats before, they're actually quite alright and chill most of the time.
It's more like anarchic hounds.

>>9188451
>to everyone's ire
Is it? No one told me.

>>9188898
the halo3 one is fine next to the DOOM3 one.

>>9188932
>>9188918
I mean something like this doodle here.

>>9188849
Based

>>9188835
I embraced the RMS lifestyle and run a free software clone of Slack for my friends.

Works pretty great and that way I'm not anywhere near those fucked up furfags who run Discord and protect the shit out of fucked up servers on there.

I really want more of her... Can't wait for Aftershock and more gameplay being revealed.

>>9188985
God why did they make the Doom 3 shotgun such a peashooter? You literally have to be ramming the barrel down an imp's throat to be able to one-shot it, and even then it's not guaranteed to do so.

>>9188993
Doom 3 shotgun isn't actually that bad. The problem is less it's power and more ... the fact that enemies have no real pain / flinching to it.

>>9188993
>and even then it's not guaranteed to do so.
Nice, that mirrors the shotgun in the original when dealing with imps.

>>9188993
The pellets themselves hit hard, but the spread is absurd. I don't even want it to be that much tighter, just a little.
I was playing Doom 3 yesterday though, and I will say that one of my favorite things about it is that you can crouch beneath fireball attacks. It's super satisfying to hear an imp winding up, charge at him, crouch at the last second and ram that barrel in his face.

>>9189004
>crouching imp balls
>all those commando attacks you can avoid by crouching in time
yeah this was fun

>>9188992
Why do you keep posting the one with a Cartoon Network looking nose?

>>9189015
Because I find it kinda sexy / cute ?
But I think there should also be more artwork of her and the game in general.

>>9188993
>God why did they make the Doom 3 shotgun such a peashooter?
Because "dude we're a serious horror game now lmao"

Also in hindsight I think the Daikatana shockwave grenade launcher is actually too good for the ultimate shitgun lineup because it actually kills stuff, what games have the absolute worst "ultimate" weapons?

>>9189015
Maybe he is trying to bait the anti shelly poster, which is me. But I dont reply in these threads, because I have already said my opinion about her bland fucking ass and I am done.

>>9189016
Honestly the best art of her although the proportions are a bit weird. But the idea is better than what we got.

>>9188992
>>9189016
the game sucks but this version of her looks better IMO
last news they were working on an update which may or may not fix the game and even voice acting. no idea if it's still a priority given the economy tho...

>>9189029
>what games have the absolute worst "ultimate" weapons?
Heretic, probably. What does firemace even do?

>>9189035
>the game sucks

I think the game is mostly awesome, amazing level design, IF problems are just design wise in terms of character and background.

>>9188973
Me too anon, although sometimes I ask for some stuff because holy fucking shit, its a pain in teh fucking as to find old stuff in discord. Also one shoudl never hang out too much there, like stagnant water people get fucking insane.

>>9188976
I won't deny it's bloated, but that's exactly what I want from a goofy mod adding a fuckton of overpowered shit to play around with

>>9188987
>>9188918
Bit more work, bigger image.

>>9189046
>I think the game is mostly awesome, amazing level design, IF problems are just design wise in terms of character and background.
I think he was referring to the game that came out before IF, where sidecut Shelly is from.

So is Quake 2 remaster a real boy

>>9189050
yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsJ9l4vH8xQ
banger theme.
some people have no idea there's an other game

>>9189056
only if they can remaster the gameplay

If only there was a way to better connect the autismo game developers and obscure but awesome idea guys\creators\designers etc.

Things were working better when games were more niche. But things are changing fast these days.
I guess fps like hunt showdown or GTFO have good artistic qualities but I think in the next generation we will still see mostly multiplayer games.

I am relating this to retro because stuff seemed so much more energetic in the 90s like ID games or the build trio. Even monolith games etc.

And retro inspired fps are not really, well, inspired. Although I think Amid Evil has a very cool distinct visual.

>>9189056
Nope. You’ll have to manage with KMQ2 being the closest to having anything resembling “gameplay mods”.

>>9188713
Combined_Arms straight up replaces Doomguy with this weirdo though.

>>9189035
>SOULS, COME UNTO ME!

>>9189079
>>9188791

Reposting from last thread:

Berserk concepts.
Since the health items are all caffeine-based, for the zerk I needed something that makes awake and powerful.

Therefore, we have a UAC stack (unobtanium, aspirin, caffeine) on the left. /fit/bros will know, everyone else will probably scratch their head.
On the right, regular space-age cocaine with the patented UAC(tm) that makes you just want to dismember some hardbody demon and return tapes.

Opinions?

>>9189090

>>9189089
I just wanted an excuse to post Arti, really. But allow me to also actually contribute with something more off the beaten path.

>>9188697
Sgt. Shivers has made a few low-key gameplay mods in the past that might fit what you're looking for.

Eternal Doomer
https://sgt-shivers.neocities.org/doom/Doom_EternalDoomer.html

and Twilight Zoner
https://sgt-shivers.neocities.org/doom/Doom_TwilightZoner.html

>>9189090
the right looks less self-evident as you remember people asked what it was in last threads.
the left however looks more ovious.
unless you give the player the following message upon pickup then it wins:
>COCAINUM!

>>9189070
KMQ2 still has a shitty anti aliasing

>>9189104
>the right looks less self-evident as you remember people asked what it was in last threads.
As far as I remember, everyone who bothered to reply did indeed recognize it.
And yeah, pickup messages are doable with dehacked, so there will definitely be something in the vein of COCAINUM (provided it will be used for the zerk).
Shame I can't give it a custom pickup sound with an Arnold soundclip.

>>9189105
Also it doesnt support Oblivion, mainly when you can rebuild the SRC off the linux debug file, but you need a paid decompiler for that

>>9189105
Shitty, although I wouldn’t know since I added mine through the nvidia control panel.

>>9189102
>I just wanted an excuse to post Arti, really
I know the feel, since I wanted an excuse to recommend CA

>>9189058
We were pretty close to IF just being a small little demo.
Also:
>which may or may not fix the game and even voice acting
How would the voice acting get “fixed”, just recasted and re-recorded? That seems like a huge waste.

Are they right?
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/342/goldeneye-007

>>9189136
They dissing Goldeneye 64? It’s not entirely unwarranted, I find Perfect Dark better in almost every way but it GE64 still provided some fun concept for non-linear levels and objectives for FPS.

>>9189116
How would the voice acting get “fixed”, just recasted and re-recorded? That seems like a huge waste.
it was implied yeah. i feel like there's a possibility that the plot would be re-adjusted to fit their new plans for the franchise as Ion Maiden/Fury did indeed become quite successful

>>9189135
>>9189145
damn i misquoted sorry

>>9189145
Oh god. I’m backing up my current grp because I don’t have much faith in them hiring someone better.

>>9189156
i haven't checked their discord in a while so idk if it's still a thing but better safe than sorry i guess

>>9189079
Games need more characters that are weirdos.

>>9187870
sin and shogo

>>9187685
Can anyone recommend a simple gore mod for quake 1? Qore is far too much, I'm just looking for more blood as seen here https://quake.fandom.com/wiki/Quake_gore
I know of quake 1.5, it is also too much.
I'm running directQ which is the only sourceport that seems to run well on my craptop and also support colored lightmaps.

seems that tears of the false god doesn't crash kex anymore

>>9189205
>simple gore mod
Unfortunately you're not likely to find a mod that is *just* gore and fits exactly what you're looking for. Quake mods aren't modular at all, so most people go all-in on large partial conversions instead of making little things like that.

>>9189215
The page I linked to suggested this was not always the case, but I couldn't find either of those mods anywhere on the internet. Thanks anyway, I'm having a blast playing Q1 with nice chunky pixels.

>>9189203
why do i keep forgetting about shogo? bought this game at the press shop for a low price back then expecting for a turd. i was amazed.

>>9189216
>makes boss whole
>eviternity quite broken
>update pyroknight
>btw sorry

>>9189216
>retard

uuhhm in that LE SECRET LABYRYNTH map is the cyberdemon even killable? I like the idea but I feel like I fucking killed him but he's still alive and there's no more ammo

>>9189220
I wonder if somebody will ever try to unfuck the issues with that engine, it'd solve some issues with Shogo, Blood 2 and that one Might and Magic game.

>>9189038
It shoots out bouncy ball bearings that are affected by player movement, and when powered up are able to kill any non-boss enemy instantly

>>9188556
>You mean Dissolution of Eternity base feature that was removed for no reason?
It wasn't removed. Just basically broken. Multiplayer stuff was just put to the side in favor of singleplayer type of content and there's no need to explain why. Maybe re-release gets more good stuff on that front, but who knows.
>>9188578
In theory, that's possible. They would just need to track down original developers and get them on board with the idea.
>>9188592
>anon forget 30th anniversary of Wolfenstein 3D
Shame on you.
>>9189035
I'm not really on board with the arm for some reason, but this Shelly does look nice. I believe Bombshell in general has some pretty nice models, despite the state of the game itself.
Should've went with third person camera.
>>9189056
Nope. Not anytime soon. The latest reorganisation on Steam was a great indication of it, but I got baited by it since they skipped Wolf3D.
>>9189067
What about autismo idea guys?
>>9189216
>dont rank head
>classic anyway

Captcha: MARK MG

>>9189216
>bfg broken bullshit

>>9189216
>bfg broken bullshit
Just hide behind a corner.

>>9188996
I don't agree at all, Doom 3's Shotgun has wider spread than Doom 2's Super Shotgun, I really don't think that's acceptable at all, considering that Doom and Doom 2's regular Shotgun had quite respectable range, and that was part of their role.

>>9189241
>t. spider mastermind

so what happened at this quakecon?
all it seems is just game sales and addons for the unity ports

>>9189253
That's pretty much it.
The Quake rerelease got the CTF mod.

>>9189240
>In theory, that's possible. They would just need to track down original developers and get them on board with the idea.
well that would be nice i love this expansion it has a very unique feel
>I'm not really on board with the arm for some reason, but this Shelly does look nice. I believe Bombshell in general has some pretty nice models, despite the state of the game itself.
Should've went with third person camera.
yeah the game does look nice and indeed the camera is not the best choice.

>>9189234
wait, they require 45 rockets to be killed... I'm not even sure THERE ARE 45 ROCKETS IN THE HALL.

WTF??

>>9189247
It’s much more acceptable considering how much smaller the rooms are in Doom 3 compared to their previous shooters. Even so, my younger self agreed with you so I just edited through notepad. The mod I played through recently also narrows the spread on zoom.

>>9189276
What mod?

>>9189276
I think the problem people have lies in the inconsistency of damage that a perfectly aligned shot will give you at even medium-close range. It would've been preferable to me to tighten up the spread a skosh, and weaken the pellets so that if they all hit it would just barely kill an imp.
What file do I edit to tighten the spread btw.

Last thread died, and Violent Rumble 2 is the clear winner, though MALICE got a respectable number of votes.
I'll get a fresh progs and survey up this weekend.

Dust off your Trenchbroom, my niggurs. It's time to rumble.

>>9189253
Probably the same thing that's happened at the last X amount of Quakecons: Bethesda shilling their games and random unrelated shit, ESO giveaways on Twitch, and a few slots dedicated to Quake lip service.

Despite being supposedly LE CRAZY MINDFUCK BATSHIT SURREAL EXPERIENCE, this map is extremely straightforward - unlike many supposedly straight forward maps I've played where you end up going in circles for 1000000 fucking times.
So you can enjoy the experience without any retardedly difficult fights or bullshit puzzles.

Final set piece is an amazing find and I only WISH there were MORE FUCKING ROCKETS since I had to fist the final boss which forced me to save/load after every couple punches - totally killing the atmosphere it so ingeniously created.

8.75/10 - very fucking good, almost great.

>>9188508
>and the ability to "make your own dating sim in the engine".
did that guy (or anyone) ever release a point-and-click mod for doom? i remember an anon posting great looking webms like 5 years ago

>>9189303
Should we start now, or wait until you've gotten things updated with an official announcement?

>>9189241
>>9189248

>>9189320
Oh yeah, you can start whenever. I think we'll just go themeless again, so no need to worry about that.

>>9189289
Mars Destruction mod.
>>9189291
>What file do I edit to tighten the spread btw.
In the 'base' folder of the Doom 3 installation there's a "pak006.pk4" with a "weapon_shotgun.script" inside, that's what you want to start messing with. This is also for the original Doom 3, BFG Edition is aidsgay and doesn't let you fuck with it like this.

yo guys
just played through PSXDoom CE
absolutely phenomenal
are there any versions out there that are compatible with map packs / wads
as in, with the lighting systems intact and what not

Should i download Doom 64 from Epic Store?

>>9189338
Good. Ever since January I've been haphazardly coming up with random map concepts that are in various stages of blockouts. Maybe with a deadline I can turn some of these into something playable.

>>9189349
i rather pirate or play CE than installing Epic Launcher

>>9189345
I mean look at this shit
utter perfection

>>9189349
See if it's on gog-games first

Invulnerabilities are under-utilized in Doom mapping. They seem to only be placed in revenant/archvile slaughtermaps, but even a humble map could benefit from a secret invul, if only because of the challenge of deciding how to use it best during a speedrun

>>9188479
aside from visuals, Q1 is a bad comparison.
it plays kinda like Heretic maybe, or Build games but slower, with level structure from Wolf3D. I think it's an okay game, the only big flaw is that enemies have huge bounds and often box you in in later levels. that and some instakill platforming, though there isn't much of it.

>>9189363
what about specific encounters that seem tough like having to deal with 2 mancs in a bridge or stuff like that?

>>9189181
https://youtu.be/56NUMdxHbKI
>ha-HA! ha-HA!

>>9188697
Check out Dead Marine. Keeps the balance 1:1 to vanilla but changes enough with sound and visuals to make it feel fresh and more impactful.

>>9189357
nice

>>9189181
I think Arti's in a good spot and can comfortably bounce between weirdo and asskicker without a hitch

>>9189371
Meh, then its too easy to decide when to use it. How about, numerous tough encounters arranged non-linearly, and the player decides where to use it

>>9189359
this and yes it is.

>>9189345
Colored lighting and stuff would have to be put into maps, but there's stuff like LiveReverb with lets you have the echo and reverb effect to sounds in any level.

>>9188508
>make your own dating sim in the engine
This is very misleading. You could do this in MS-DOS Quake 1.01 already. You can fill the screen with text anytime you like, and you can use numbers for the options (which read like weapon switches). But consolebabies have a weapon wheel instead, so they had to add this in order for them to choose teams in CTF (since changing your colors manually is too hard).

>>9188697
i like smoothed doom and black ops and perk's hi res sfx

>>9188743
just fill this with daikatana weapons and you're good to go

Ad Mortem Phase 2 should be formally announced in a couple days from now. I figure we should get this kicked off sooner rather than later. I know that 94 Protons is running, but I'm not waiting until halfway through September to get this started.
Also, this is my trip now.

>>9189345
there's still PSX Final Doom CE and Doom 64 CE
but i assume you already know about them

>>9189380
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/downloads

>map design

>>9189431
>Has a rocket launcher with 50 rockets
>Is not using them

>>9189431
Don't you dare shittalk the best wad of all times, the greatest mapset to ever grace the earth, the epitome of originality and variety, by our lord and saviour Skillsaw who can never do wrong.

>>9189385
sup mate
yeah thing is there are some mods out there like d64ifier which manage to assign lights to textures universally. although they don't do nearly as much of a good job as CE does. thats that main thing I want, the rest I know you can find modules for separately anyway and I already have most of them

>>9189421
yes mate, already aware of them. playing through those next. I just want to be able to play through custom map packs with the same lighting systems and stuff applying as they do in the doom / final doom / doom 64 levels. figured it would work because d64ifier attaches lights to certain textures for ambience and it works, just not as well as in CE

>>9189431
It was a fun set to get good at Babel with.

>>9189431
>Max rockets
>Has rocket launcher
>Horde of tightly clustered imps
>Uses fucking chainsaw on horde of imps
Anon there is only so far you can blame map design for you being a dope. That ain't some novelty switch that blends in, thats you being a dum dum and not making chunky imp salsa.

>>9189457
You are an absolute fucking madman to play skillsaw wads with that mod.

>>9189236
>Blood 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFJ7iANkMes

>>9189458
In theory the chainsaw can keep you alive in those situations if you're using it very carefully but that's just running in like a retard and not stunlocking stuff into being your meat shield.
>>9189465
Nice.

>>9189431
See that door back into the rest of the level open in the back of the screenshot? You need to get back there ASAP instead of fighting the imps inside, I think it's on a 10 second timer or something. Once you get back into the level you can restock your hp and kill the imps from outside

>>9189451
>I just want to be able to play through custom map packs with the same lighting systems and stuff applying as they do in the doom / final doom / doom 64 levels
it's not impossible that it'll happen since it's gaining popularity. Doom64EX got expansions after all.

>>9189464
>pistol starts
>8min autosaves only
there's a 'fun' in 'suffering'

>>9189495
more like UFN
the sound you make when archie burns your scalps

What are the Hexen hubs recommendations? I've played Cyrgoth 1 (finished), and it was good, but too grindy even on easy. Played A New World, and stopped after some time, something is uncomfortable about too many small rooms there. Playing Lost Luxury now, and it is perfect so far. Just opened the last door to caves in the hub. All 3 areas before it were well done and really different, and mostly large open spaces. I use WoC or Brutal Hexen with them, but mostly to spicy the things up, without paying much attention to RPG system part.

quake 2 remaster where

>>9189492
aye, I hope sp

>>9189530
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1089130/

>>9189501
That sounds about right. Things went better than expected, but to be honest I expected the worst.

>>9189542

What's the best way to play PSX doom on PC these days? Or the best way to play using GZDoom/DSDA-Doom, more specifically.

>>9189560
psydoom

>>9189568
Thanks. This actually looks pretty cool.

>>9189542
I don't know if it has higher overall dps because of the slower firing speed but the babel plasma gun does a lot of raw damage, it kills a cyberdemon in about 90 plasma while vanilla plasma gun kills a cyber in about 150
and at 90 plasma per kill that's also more efficient than the babel BFG's 120

>>9189612
The ammo efficiency was raised, every shot does between 12 and 48 damage. Technically, The BFG is still more efficient in terms of pure damage if you use a single BFG shot then finish it with plasma, but that's just a quirk of how the BFG works. Babel's BFG does exactly 2400 damage in increments of 60 damage. That means it doesn't average of 40 damage per cell used. The plasma rifle, or the pulse rifle, does about 32. The difference is that the BFG always uses 60 cells, whereas the pulse rifle can use any number.
Basically, in order to use the BFG to its full effectiveness it should be used on as many enemies as possible, and as strong of enemies as possible. If you aren't using every bit of damage that The BFG can do in a single shot, its ammo efficiency drops tremendously.

>>9189632
does an*
>tfw phonepost

>>9189560
DOOM CE is the best PC way, but psy is the most faithful.

>>9189560
psx doom ce, final doom ce, doom 64 ce
check them out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/downloads

>>9189465
A project to revamp the mess that was Blood 2? Tight idea, I love this new generation of modders taking bad games that had massive potential and fixing them up to be playable/actually good.

>>9189632
>32
I think you mean 30 there bud.

>>9189648
I'll give that one a look too.

>>9189648
>>9189651
>>9189658
thank me or I will cry

are there no psx doom ports that work universally with mod / wads? or does psydoom do that?

Quadz birthday and at the same time celebration stream since he died recently
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1560416196926775302

>>9189675
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55298

>>9189682
ty bro, I meant like map packs and stuff mainly. a port that carries over the style / sound / lighting system and other graphical changes that are kind of exclusive to the psx version. sorry I didn't clarify properly

>>9189236
>that one Might and Magic game.
Nothing other than a complete replacement of every element would fix M&M 9.

Does DSDA-Doom have the Lost Soul limit setting or is that fully dependent on complevel? I'm just using Complevel -1 for mostly everything so I don't know how that works with Lost Souls

>>9189687
Oh.
Well I have no idea, sorry.

>>9189049
This is pretty good, with some polish I wouldn't mind using this instead. I'd do it myself but I'm getting back to mapping now.

>>9189698
all good, I am being very specific after all. I just think after playing psx doom ce, I can't go back to playing without that lighting and stuff kek

>>9189203
>>9189220
https://youtu.be/l_cCOBF9KZ8
Posting a kino intro.

>>9189704
I swear the basketball part wasn't ever in the game.

>>9189465
>>9189652
You can only go so far with just fixing up the weapons and enemies. What Blood 2 needs as well are new areas and levels that help make the game and story flow better, especially when you have to shoehorn in three other playable characters into the game without making them feel redundant.

If they made an updated Quake II that changed weapons and AI somewhat to make it more 'modern' would you give it a try?

>>9188451
>Also to everyone's ire, /vr/ is now more relevant than doomworld thanks to rekkr
Tbf alphonzo was asking people about /vr/ on doom radio before rekkr was a thing. Even then it was pretty clear this place was going to be a hotbed in some fashion.

>>9189742
they need to restore the old behavior back, what tim willits did to the supertank was a warcrime.
imagine said fight where he spams grenades, shoots rockets from his back if you try to circlestrafe him and proper chaingun damage

>>9189742
What does that mean exactly, what kind of "modern" mechanics?

do you pronounce it Gee-Zee-Doom or Gee-Zed-Doom?

>>9189704
>the nostalgia

You ever notice how the Pigcops make the same sound as the Ogres in Quake?

>>9189748
This place was directly mentioned at the 2014 cacowards. Do with that as you will.

>>9189801
yep maybe stock sounds? back then they were small studios.
in an other thread someone posted footage of a 90's Gravitar time game with the Doom switches and elevator sounds.

>>9189812
The doom door sound is all over the place too. There's an episode of Doctor Who that uses it.
Not sure if it's a shared library or an homage on that one.

>>9189825
yeah many b movies have this door sound i was gonna say. there's also a game with a jumpscare in a telescope sight and the monster uses the baron scream

>>9189793
jizz doom

>>9189837
desu.

>>9189793
Personally I pronounce it as 'trash-zoom'

>>9189840
thats probably just the v trannies corrupting my mind tho

>>9189864
the absolute degeneracy of this board, actual porn posted there regularly...

>>9189909
its actually quite mental how prevalent tranny bullshit has become. its all over social media now in general. but this is off topic and I don't wanna shit this general up with this so if you wanna talk trannies come to brit/pol/ tomorrow kek

>>9187685
When is the MarriedWithDemons.wad coming outing? I want to rummage around in a recreated Bundy household.

>yfw Steam quietly replaced your copy of regular Doom 3 with BFG Edition.

>>9189942
Don't you still have access to the original version of Doom 3?

>>9189942
You don't have both? I got the regular Doom 3 even though I only had BFG Edition.

>>9189942
you have everything in a single launcher

>>9189808
I don't recall that, but that would be less than a year after /vr/ was born right? We doom now.

>>9189942
>quietly
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2320/announcements/detail/3403052023824919087

>>9189950
is this planned on GOG as well? they did give me both versions for Ultimate/2/Final(it's in unity Doom2) but they didn't give me OG Doom3.
Maybe it's because it was never distributed there?

>>9189967
>Maybe it's because it was never distributed there?
It was at some point, because there's downloaders for it.

>he doesn't have all three versions

>>9189976
The Bethesda version is just a worse version of BFG. No Doom 1&2, not even multiplayer.

>>9189942
What the fuck? Why?

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>>9189985
They didn't. They just merged all of the versions.

>>9189974
hmm idk if i should wait or just take it on steam BFG is like 5 bucks right now

>>9189989
What does he say, /vr/?

>>9189695
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/PrBoom
https://youtu.be/XFZFNE0a82w

>>9189993
why would you even want bfg? the only reason to rush buying anything is if you're afraid they're gonna remove the regular version, which I don't think they're doing.
you've missed your chance to get the entire beth+id catalogue for like 20 bucks anyway, proper steam sales are never coming back.

>>9190000
it's the only way to have legal OG Doom 3 which i don't have anymore. i don't care about the rest of the catalogue because i own it all.

Starcraft Doom when?

>>9190035
There was a time when I saw the project in progress, even talked with the creator. Then it just disappeared. Not sure what happened.

>>9190035
also why not Doom Starcraft too?

>>9189995
>care for a game of lucky hit?

>>9190041
I feel like a majority of the starcraft mods are lost to history. There's a few mentioned in an old pc gamer magazine that I could never find hide nor hair of. Some star wars mos eisley cantina multiplayer maps or something.

I'm on the fence with these voxels. Static stuff looks fine, but the enemies are hit or miss. They somehow look both squashed and much larger than their sprite forms. The death frames are a bit lumpy and uncanny, but that's more because I've never really thought about what they'd look like in 3D. Specifically the pinky.
There was a pack made for Blood by the same guy, and the enemies there looked a lot more natural. Maybe because it's a software-rendered engine with actual voxels that were already in the game, and mob movement is a lot smoother. Might get better results with different lighting or lower resolutions.

>>9188789
Unless you use what? Honestly never occurred to me to try playing GMOTA with just the characters. Doesn't seem like it'd be as fun.

>>9189216
>interesting revenants
>pyrobaron demonlet
>okay stop

>>9187685
FUCKIN CONTROL SECTORS
HOW DO THEY WORK?

>>9189510
From what I've played so far:
>Four Weeks of Pain
Not sure you'll like it, because this one has a much bigger focus on difficulty rather than exploration. All hubs are basically a portal selection map and the connnected maps are somewhat short but challenging. At times it almost feels like some kind of a survival horror game due to how scarce resources can be.

>Penumbra
This one is much more closer to original Hexen, only thing I don't like is that it's very linear.

>Scourge of Viscerus
Ok I admit I haven't gotten too far in this one yet but so far it seems solid and promising, I'd compare it to the style of Cyrgoth hubs.

>>9188204
A lot better than I expected, not even noticeable for the most part on enemies until you're inspecting their corpses.

Based just off the video on the page I think the most jarring thing to get used to is the pickups and corpses not having a static look, it was a bit hard to make out the shotshells and bullet ammo on the ground from the side, and seeing monster bodies from all angles is different.

>>9189354
>CE
not acurrate desu

>>9190098
Low-res muddies things up and blends them in a bit. Certainly makes the voxels look more software-y.

>>9189381
That's a really cool Arti.

>>9190274
That one's gonna be part of the last update. It'd be fun to get art of the other forms too.

>>9190283
What would his abilities be? Super curious about the purple void one, too.

>>9190298
Wizards & Warriors 3, so you'll switch between the Wizard, Knight, and Thief on the fly. With a focus on melee combat with the knight, with some of the weapons having durability (It recharges over time, even if you break them), the mage will have nukes and some utility stuff, and the thief will have guns, ammo stealing, and a deployable turret. I'm admittedly gonna be doing some asspulls because there sure as hell aren't any guns in W&W3, but the thief's weapons there sucked.

It's gonna be really fun to have a three in one like that.

>>9188909
>>Deus Ex PS20
Actually would be quite powerful if it wasn't one use only.
Since NPC's don't care about ammo in mods like shifter or GMDX where you can give friendly followers your weapons with tab key I just give the useless in vanilla Miguel the PS20 and he can fucking destroy the level he is in with that thing because he shoots it infinitely

>>9188909
>superweapons that are actually terrible
Maybe the SNES Doom BFG?

>>9189216
>>9190120
>interesting revenants

>>9190317
i was thinking it'd stay single use but the gun itself would be as common as basic pistol ammo
just a hassle to run around and collect another after each shot

>>9190345

>>9189349
No. You're better than this.
>>9189386
>This is very misleading.
Just used Sponge's quote here, which didn't seem entirely wrong here. Especially due to the example he shows with dialogue options.
>>9189742
Seconding >>9189754 here. They need to just bring back original behavior or even give players option to choose between the two.

Any chance of the Quake 2 remaster getting announced tomorrow? Or do announcements always happen on the first day

MAP05 Vivisection of No Rest for the Living has gotta be one of the coolest little maps ever. That things unfolds like a puzzle box around you with enemies spilling in from every-which-way constantly. Pic unrelated.

Hey anons, I remember a while ago I heard about a blood port that made the controls a lot better and it didn't require dosbox anymore
any links for that ?

is John St. Jon (aka Duke Nukem) a s0ib0i?

>>9190345
>>9190415

This section of disjunct (electron m09) is kicking my ass. I keep getting splattered by the cybies. Any advice for this section? I've tried avoiding them and also tried killing them (all months ago and I stopped playing for awhile).

>>9190434
No more announcements. Better luck next year.

>>9190434
If they had something, it would've been revealed on the first day. There's no re-release getting revealed on this year's QuakeCon, anon.
>>9190446
There's an official Fresh Supply port on Steam & GOG that is kind of okay for the first time playthrough, but anons here would suggest one of the few source ports (NBlood and BloodGDX).
This link includes both Fresh Supply and original files, so you can start whenever you want:
https://gog-games.com/game/blood_fresh_supply
>>9190465
Well, he sure narcissistic moron nowadays it seems. I mean, I guess he had it coming after getting involved with Miller & nu-Apogee.

Because of all Q2 hype, I started playing Q2 after not touching it for 6 years. This time with Hard instead of Medium. I'm surprised how fun this is. Never knew that difficulty influences directly the enemy AI. In medium you had time to kill or at least stun everyone before they had change to attack, at Hard you actually get to fight them. This is gonna be a fun ride. Now I actually want complete Q2 and all 5 expansions (or maybe not Juggernaut).

(Also playing in software and it looks much better, because everything isn't so goddamn red or yellow).

this entire thread is 2-3 people pretending to be new to retro fps games and saying wrong things so they can get the other 2-3 people in the thread to read the right things back to them for a tiny dopamine hit

>>9190534
yes, i am one of the 2 people

>>9190307
I like the sound of that. Versatile.

>>9188662
"Quakecon" name has legacy that "Bethcon" doesn't. On the other hand, if "Quakecon" turns to shit and dies, it is only Quake IP at stake (which is not much as it is), not the whole brand.

>>9188462
>>9188660
And yet no rereleases of Cybermage. Or Terminator Skynet and Future Shock, which should be an easy task for Beth.

>>9190534
I don't think anyone is even pretending to be new. When most discussions are about mods or modding itself, it's hardly a discussion for newbs. Baiting is rarely a thing in these threads and when it is, it usually leads to swift removal of messages. We are too old for that kind of shit.

>>9190534
That's where you're wrong, this entire thread is me talking to myself because I'm mentally ill. The other two guys got scared off a long time ago.

>>9190534
man, that Anonymous guy is just the worst

>>9190465
>>9190528
Remember that time he plagiarized some Youtuber's gameplay footage of Duke Nukem Forever and dubbed over it as himself playing it?

Fucking kek, you can tell he smelled blood and pounced the moment he could.

>>9190529
If you don't want the enemies to get interrupted when you hit them and if you still find them too easy, you can play on hard+/skill 3

The fuck I do in Scythe 10 where romero head explodes me? There's no where else to go!

>>9190627
First Romero telefrag death exit?
You wait for him to finish and you go to MAP11.

>>9190037
>Not sure what happened
I died, let me go anon..

>>9190534
you are just a mere creation of my schizophrenia

>>9190639
Since we're all stuck in your head, what the shit is it with the baked beans and socks?

Seriously bro, you gotta stop thinking of just those, it's getting full up in here.

>>9190636
What a dumb fucking programming. I just got game over like 5 times before it working

>>9190682
You just have to not spam respawn as soon as you die.

>>9190670
I don't know if I want to go deeper on this

>>9190587
Who's footage? DSP?

but...but... what did he mean by this

>>9190529
Play on nightmare anon, download Yamagi and Kmquake2

>>9190738
Something came up and they had to call off an announcement or it's gonna come out of left field sometime in the next two weeks

>>9190754
And where the fuck they would announce? Realms Deep?

i rather keep Q2 off Kex Engine's hands seeing how incompatible with everything Q1R was

>>9190529
>Also playing in software and it looks much better, because everything isn't so goddamn red or yellow
It’ll be grey or brown then, which is fine if that’s your preference. Its always fun getting exposed to all that color when you’ve been playing the first Quake for awhile. In trying Quake 4, I really missed that orange Stroggos sky.

>>9189976
does master levels come with this?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DOOM-IT

>>9190764
yep

>>9190764
but it doesn't come with maximum doom so they are literally selling an incomplete version of the game.

>>9190757
I had a good time working with people here to get the new models unglued from the Kexengine, but I would be concerned about any new levels. Maybe they’ll work with FTE for some reason, like what happened with Dimension of the Machine.

>>9190757
If its kex then I hope it comes with the N64 port like the quake 1 remaster did. even tho the n64 game would be piss easy on pc. it would still be great to get the last quake 2 campaign home on pc.

>>9189181

is btsx 3 out yet

>>9190857
Give it another ten years, anon.
But at least we finally got Devilution this year.