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Retard

>>9185896
>I used it in some 1 in a million use case playing a shitty untranslated japanese game nobody's ever heard of that means only retards think this useless button is useless

>>9185930
i can't even think of one time it was used, what jap game actually uses this button and what does it even do?

itt: useless threads

>>9185892
>>9185930
>>9185936
Retards.

Certain games cannot function with analog controls or with analog controllers plugged in. This button disables the analog controls and makes the controller appear as a digital only pad to the PlayStation. Similarly check out the mode button on 6-button Genesis controllers. It’s not designed to be a functional gameplay button rather a utility button to make sure switching controller standards halfway through a console generation doesn’t mess anything up for already existing games or developers who don’t want to adopt it.

>>9185936
It's like the mode button on the six button Genesis pad. It disables the new features in order to guarantee compatibility with older games that may not work right otherwise. It allows the dualshock to behave like an original PS1 pad.

>>9185892
>controller is called dual analog
>only one analog button
No wonder it got replaced in a year

>>9185946
What's it used for then? :)

>>9185953
>Certain games cannot function with analog controls or with analog controllers plugged in.
No shit sherlock.
Point is no game that matters uses it or people would have heard of it.

>>9186024
See >>9185971
Retard.

>>9185940
i press that to turn off my pc faster

>>9185971
Yup.
Knock off chink wireless dual shocks don’t have this button at all. they operate as wireless PS1 controllers and will work with PS1

>>9186027
Megaman 8.

>>9186027
Final Fantasy VII

>>9186054
not a game
>>9186051
doesn't matter

>>9185940
How do you turn it on otherwise?

>>9186027
Crash 1

>>9186112
kick it or something

>>9186027
Sony didn't know that at the time. They weren't about to QA the entire software library so they added in the analog toggle as a failsafe.

>>9186142
Kirby is unplayable without it

>>9186061
You're a horrid person.

>>9186142
the whole left side basically

>>9185892
>>9185930
Don't a bunch of early games, including the first 2 Tomb Raiders, simply not work with analog turned on?

>>9186027
Parasite Eve

I always thought Gamecube's Z button was unnecessary and useless

>>9186142
The AKI wrestling games.
Pokemon Stadium.

>>9185986
lel

>>9186142
This is funnier than it should be

>>9186061

>>9186112
Bridge the pins with a screwdriver, then set the BIOS to auto-start after power loss.

I like the analog button just because I like having a little light on my controller as I'm playing it.

That said though it really is useless. At least with the Dual Analog you can actually force it to switch between digital/analog/flight stick modes if you want, Dual Shocks always just detect what mode it's supposed to be in automatically for all but the absolute earliest of PS1 games.

>>9186061
matters to me because it was the base to a way better game

Analog stick buttons are way worse. Literally ANYWHERE else on the controller would be a better place to put a pair of buttons than under the fucking analog sticks. 6 face buttons, a third row of shoulder buttons, literally anything. There's no such thing as a game where clicking the analog sticks feels good.

>>9186142
More underutilized than unnecessary. In the games where you can choose dpad or analogy (Bomberman TSA, GGA, Tarzan, Gex, etc) I always go dpad

>>9186220
OP posted a Dual Analog controller though. When the light is green it operates in Analog Joystick (SCPH-1110) mode, which is good for an alright amount of games. It also changes to red to operate like a Dual Shock without the shock (outside of Japan anyway). And of course a third mode which is off, like a Dual Shock also has.

The handles are also longer.

>>9186040
I yank the plug from the wall socket.

>>9186497
>Case in point
I remember playing the demo as a kid and it took me forever to figure out where "L3" and "R3" were

>>9186061
>Gets proven wrong.
>"N-no! I didn't "

>>9186354
>Bridge the pins with a screwdriver
No, you're supposed to use a switchblade.

>>9185892
I still don't know what it's supposed to do

>>9186220
Correct thats why its there, OPs thread is retarded and time wasting.

Just played Megaman X4 and it does not work with analog on.

>>9186784
Very early PS1 games designed with only the digital controller in mind might fail to recognize the controller if it's in analog mode, so the analog button is there to switch between the two modes. The VAST majority of PS1 games can just detect the controller automatically though.

>>9186061
>>>/v/

>>9185892
It makes the analog stick play as the dpad
If you had one you’d know that

>>9186142
It’s funny that you morons never used this for shooters
Your own fault for cucking yourself

>>9186142
Way better for menu navigating if it's allowed. I never use the stick for that if I don't have to.

>>9186821
Neither does Crash Bandicoot 1.

>>9186824
As early as 1996.

So it obviously had its use on the PS1, it was almost completely pointless on the PS2.

>>9187098
It was backwards compatible with ps1, so they’d need it for the aforementioned games. Ps3 let you toggle it through software since it was emulated.

>>9186112
The same way you turn it off
Go to the start menu, choose "Turn On"

>>9185892

>>9187146
In English, professor.

>>9186316
It was unnecessarily tiny and clicky, often used as a "select" (aka map or menu) button because it wasn't very comfortable for other in-game uses.

>>9186220
Yep along with Crash 4 and FF7. Basically any PS1 game before 1998.

>>9186316
That was the select button my man

>>9185892
It's for older games that didn't work with the new controller. It's the legacy mode button.

>>9187758
For the DualShock yes
That is the dual analog which functioned different

>>9187178
I think you're just a massive baby.

>>9185892
>he doesn't know
How can you not possibly know?

>>9186142
Imagine never playing Goldeneye. Did you use the fucking c-buttons to turn?

>>9186583
Based hardware destroyer.

>>9187736
That's the magic linux key.

>>9186142
>>9186197
You faggots never played wrestling games then. Wrestling was huge in the 90's and N64 had a good amount of great wrestling games to choose from. I still think wrestling games peaked here.

>>9187757
Nah it's the grab button

>>9186597
Fuck me I had this happen recently. Game gave the Xbox prompt which renames them so I fell off a cliff in the time it took to say 'what the fuck is LS'

>>9186497
Got a controller with buttons on the backside and immediately mapped them to L3/R3 and its a massive improvement over trying to move and click in a stick.

>>9187736
I think I used it once to debug a linux boot issue.

>>9188415
I've used it occasionally. For me, the most useless button was the power button on my PS2, because I turned it off at the back every single time I used it. Fuck standby modes.

>>9185986
>successor is called dual shock
>not electrocuted once, despite taping it to my sweaty balls
:(

>>9187736
If you weren't a filtfhy zoomer you'd know it's a remnant of a time when it was used and useful. Just like there is no reason anymore for your keyboards not to be in alphabetical order.

>>9186497
clearly never played gunvalkyrie

>>9188552
BKLM. It's what moves me.

>>9186027
Tomb Raider 4/5
>move the analog slightly
>lara walks
>move the analog all the way
>lara runs
Guess what, it was shit in both games and even worse in AoD.

>>9188542
The PS2's power button is annoying as fuck anyway. When I was a retarded little kid I didn't even know how to turn the system off (I had a slim) because you have to hold it to shut down, pressing it just resets. I'd just unplug it all the time when I was done.

>>9186316
You had to rapidly tap the z button to power your shots in the EA golf games while swinging, and it was incredibly frustrating

Honestly the Gamecube's dpad is so useless that Nintendo should have went with the original controller design that just puts the start button in its place.

>>9188415
I actually liked how the gamecube did a smooth soft reset, I thought it was cool. Like I wasn't interrupting anything at all.

>>9185930
>>9185892
Literally have to use it in lots of PS1 games all the time, wtf are you on about

>>9187098
People rarely mention it, but Ridge Racer V has analog controls. Analog is off by default and the game even shows a PS1 controller in the menu. It changes to a DS2 if you turn analog on and lets you set up turning and throttle/brake separately, even with a sensitivity setting for the buttons.

>>9186142

>>9186054
I used to play FF7 with the analog sticks on my Dual Shock, was the Dual Analog different?

>80 replies
>Only 10 answers

>>9185940
I thought everyone rapidly pressed it to make important bank transfers go faster.

>>9185892
it's needed sometimes because certain games don't recognize the analog controller.

>>9186301
i hate that when you play using analog you cant use the dpad in the menu because analog is better for movement but dpad superior for menuing.

>>9186404
>I like the analog button just because I like having a little light on my controller as I'm playing it.
I read thas as "having a little girl". But now it makes even less sense. What do you need a light on the controller for? :-/

>>9185892
>OP thinks toggling analog mode on/off is useless

Many PS1 games straight up don't recognize the controller if analog is turned on, idiot.

It was a logical consequence of releasing a new controller 3-4 years into the console's life.

>>9188415
I say reset buttons in general I never used them,as for the gamecube I've noticed when the game crashes the reset button doesn't work anyway making it even more useless

>>9190469
Dpad is superior for everything, why would you ever prefer a clumsy and imprecise analog

>>9190645

>>9187736
Still use that on excel almost daily

>>9190469
>because analog is better for movement
how can a man be so wrong

>>9188436
I hate that even non FPS games are making you run by pressing the left stick while pushing it forward, it feels awful it feels like you are not meant to do that

>>9185953
The MODE button functions as an 8th regular button during gameplay but I only vaguely remember a single game ever using it. It only fulfils its "MODE" functionality immediately on startup.
The PS1 is curiously similar. The Analog button is actually just a regular button, it's not handled directly in hardware. I assume it was so that games could enable and disable analog themselves and so the button has to be polled for like any other button so the game knows to do the switch. If you wanted you could program the system to do whatever and the controller won't turn itself into a digital pad unless the code tells it to.

>>9185892
>Kojima never used the MODE button for a third-wall breaking gameplay feature
What an absolute hack.

>>9185892
Do retards like OP really?

>>9190645
>>9190748
D-Pad is pure garbage for 3D movement

>>9190948
It's fourth-wall you dumbass

>>9186142
Goldeneye, Turnkey 1 and 2, Perfect Dark, literally every fighting game, Mischief Makers, Kirby.

Did you never touch an N64 or something?

>>9191651
>Turnkey
I mean TUROK

>>9189481
That’s a fire alarm. Funny story, I used to teach English in Japan, and a school had one of those. If they have an extinguisher compartment they normally say 消火器 so you know to open it and grab it in case of a small fire. The kanji means extinguish fire utensil. Someone picked off the two top parts of the second character so it said 消人器 which would mean something along the lines of human extinguisher utensil. I laughed all the time when I saw it. Thanks for listening.

>>9186848
>playing console shooters

>>9191717
That's pretty funny.

>>9187957
wrestling is so lame. i have so many bad memories of going over to a friends house growing up and all he has is fucking wrestling games.
>which weird half naked white guy in short shorts do you want to be so you can awkwardly toddler walk around a tiny square arena
fucking none

>>9186497
>There's no such thing as a game where clicking the analog sticks feels good.
I have fond memories of using R3 as the 'zoom' button in Timesplitters 2. Seemed like a pretty good fit for the 'look' stick.

>>9189494
what?

>>9186027
I.Q - Intelligent Qube

>>9191717
Based humerous weaboo.

>>9188415
I remember on the snes, I never used the reset switch because you could just press select, start, a, b at the same time to reset.

>>9185892
Some games doesn't work with DualShock anon, you're making a fool of yourself