/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Deadline extended, see picture
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

=== NEWS ===
[8-12] The guidelines for the Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1558056148795887618

[8-12] Quakespasm-Spiked has been updated
https://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

[8-11] Circadian Offset released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/circadian-offset-full-release/news/circadian-offset-full-release

[8-10] Various id games and their expansions are being merged into one install package on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2280/announcements/detail/3370400926531461244

[8-8]Coppertone Summer Jam 2 for Quake released(Copper for Quake required)
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/coppertone-summer-jam-2.103/

[8-8]The Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here and open for submissions!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1556598386110906369

[8-6]Nostalgia a 32 map megawad was released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130681

[8-4]Giftmarcher releases a surprise Quake 2 map: The Drilling Station 161
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4171

[8-4]Lex Fridman interviews John Carmack for 5 hours
https://youtu.be/I845O57ZSy4

[8-4] Doom Wad Archive is shutting down :(
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130650
https://archive.org/details/wadarchive Archive Backup

[8-3]2 new tools released for BUILD game Legend of the Seven Paladins
https://gitlab.com/build-engine/lotspe The Extracter
https://gitlab.com/build-engine/lotspp The Packer

[8-1] DoomerBoards released Emerald City, a 15 map episode
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2929

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>find a new wad
>play 5 levels, have fun
>get stuck
>repeat

xth for hideous destructor is fun.
and yes chewing glass is fun too.

>>9180929
>>9180980
You can actually access it if you give yourself an inventory item, it's all there in the decorate for it.

The sprites were still what made them go apeshit though.

>>9181037
>alright ancient woof
okay woomer

>>9181037
>based bd mark post

>>9181056
>always release drama

HEY ANONYMOUS! 94 Protons is soon to be wrapped up and it's almost time for the spooky season to start, that means it's almost time for AD MORTEM PHASE 2! I'd like to know going in how many contributions we'll be getting for this.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/ajnENBz2kgW
https://strawpoll.com/polls/ajnENBz2kgW
https://strawpoll.com/polls/ajnENBz2kgW
As a disclaimer, I am not Vaeros, but he hasn't been seen for months and I ain't gonna let this project die. If he does come back, then I will be giving leadership back to him.

>>9181037
>project ii
What is it? What is Project II? What was Project I?

>>9181037
>giving huge completely blowjob
God damn it.

>>9181071
oh well i guess that answers >>9181072

>>9176873
Reposting next Quake project poll: https://strawpoll.com/polls/40Zmdvbzoga

I'll consider the results final when this thread dies.

>>9181037
>today sucks
>yeah mod quake
>gay kek secret
>mancubus player
>jump working
>sense thief die
>posted nigger
Lole

>>9181037
>damn remove gay kek secret point
Somebody really hates wall humping.

>>9181037
>include retard somehow
>action bitch
>update fat face
>dick fair

>>9181073
sorry that was me

>>9181071
Regardless of how many maps this gets, please end Ad Mortem after this, perpetual beta sucks.

>>9181156
That's the plan, stretching this out across 1 year is soemthing, but 2 years will be stupid. I'm vowing to get this done NOW, no more delays, no phase 3, nothing.

>Use Doom 3 BFG as an excuse to replay Doom 2 after many years
>Try map29 pistol start after beating the game
>Literally kill the mancubus across the bridge with my last shotgun shell

How the fuck did Romero get the ammo count so tight? It's just about perfect.

Didn't find any secrets, btw.

>>9181016
>playing DBP44 Japanese Valentines
>use the NSFW version because why not
>demon girls do their HDoom death poses
>very lewd
>find a berserk powerup
>punch an imp girl into a default gore pile
jesus

>>9181186
Huh... guess they wanted the guro audience as well.

Best weapon and enemy sets for Auger Zenith? Trying to play it vanilla just feels incorrect

>>9181209
HFFM Party Pack

>>9181016
SHITTER'S FULL edition

On the topic of Ad Mortem, I wanted to replace the pickup sprites but only ended up having time for a few. I'd like to go the full distance this time like with HFFM's sprites.
Let's start with health. The middle row is what's currently in Ad Mortem, the bottom is my proposed change. I find the current health bonus being larger than the stimpack to be odd, so I say we use the current stimpack sprite in place of it while retaining its recognizable purple palette, and using a new stimpack sprite to bridge the gap between the health bonus and medikit. Thoughts?

>>9181217
I'll try this and report back.

>>9181209
Final Doomer's JPCP set for weapons, Rampancy for monsters.

>>9181220
If you can get the sprites done before October, go for it.

>>9181037
>old bad
it's over

>>9181234
I should be able to, I got plenty of time actually in range of a computer this time around. I'd love to hear input from you guys on my work though, HFFM's sprites wouldn't have been nearly as good without it.

is revae here?, what phone is that?

>>9181241
I like the larger jug for the 25 health pickup.

>>9181241
>>9181249
From the scrapyard, I meant.

Could use some guidance from amateur devs in the house. I have two ideas for shooters I'd like to spend the next decade bringing to fruition, but I don't know if it would be harder to learn Blender/3D modeling or 2D skills. I see stuff like Ion Fury, Selaco, Wrath, Dusk, Project Warlock, and I just get lost on which style to commit to, let alone needing to develop a good sense of art direction no matter what I pick. I am also considering UE5 or Unity since I don't have the brains/programming skills for GZDoom or Godot or Serious Engine 1. I don't really know what I'm asking, just general advice? At work I'll write down ideas for environment design, weapons, character notes, boss design, arena encounters, and I just can't go back to a life where I didn't want to make a game.
>>9181218
Lol'd

>>9181218

>>9181254
Forgot pic related.

>>9181246
Where else would I be.
It's a Moqi i7. They don't make them anymore, but you can find them used for a reasonable price. They're a weird china phone, so you ought to get a new application browser (or whatever they're called) so you don't have a defunct ad page on your home screen.
Also there is a newer version called an i7s that you may want, since the i7 is locked to Android 7, and the i7s iirc is at least Android 8something.
Also it's huge, so if you don't have big pockets or a bag or something you may not like it.

>>9181220
I guess if we're open to reinterpreting the health items to be more readable, consider this.
I really like the jug style.

>>9181293
Health pickups should have similar colors/silhouettes to doom, like with 400mins berzerk and such.
imho

>>9181249
I ended up shelving it because... I dunno, I just like the bulbous flask better. If there's something I want to salvage from the scrapyard, it's the alternate stimpack with the hole in it.
>>9181293
Wow. You really make the jug potion work. Jesus, that's beautiful.

>>9181289
thanks, I've found one in my area at 190 usd
is there another more modern phone with sticks that I don't know about?

>>9181303
I think nondescript red liquid retains the "THIS IS HEALTH" aspect that medikits have imo.

>>9181313
That's the most modern one I'm aware of. Before that I had a normal phone, and before that I had a xperia play, which I like the size and style of a lot better.

Some questions about DSDA-Doom:
>Is there an option to turn infinite height monsters/splash damage on/off? I only found an option for walking under hanging corpses.
>Any way to turn off the weird tiny timer at the end of levels?
>Isn't there a way to make it ask you if you want to reload a save with a Y or N prompt after dying or was that another port?
>Any way to get colored blood?
If not, no huge deal. I really like the port otherwise, especially how it segregates saves for each individual PWAD. The only one that might get kind of annoying and already has been a bit annoying is the infinite height monsters.

In Ultimate Doom Builder is there a way to just press a button and have a sector burst into triangles? God man my hands, how do you mappers do this? This TITLEMAP is going to kill me.

>>9181293
Alright, here's my take. From left to right: health bonus, stimpack, medikit, berserk, with two variants for all but the first.
Is that you Chop?

>>9181349
Five seconds after posting this, I remember why I discarded Erlenmeyer-esque design in the first place. It's just not big enough, especially if we use my proposed stimpack replacement. How about we stick to the bulbous flask design?

>>9181342

>Any way to get colored blood?
Copy+paste into a txt file, rename to .deh, drop in autoload folder for doom-all

Doom version = 21
Patch format = 6


Thing 15 (Cacodemon)
Blood color = 3

Thing 16 (Baron of Hell)
Blood color = 2

Thing 18 (Hell Knight)
Blood color = 2

>>9181349
the sprite on the far right is clearly 100 hp but if I were playing blind I wouldn't know if it was a supercharge or berserk
wouldn't be an issue after picking it up once to know for sure but it could look more zerky

>>9181342
>Any way to get colored blood?
https://pastebin.com/qtvNgpKx drop inside autoload/doom-all folder
No switch provided, so you're stuck with blue blood on custom monsters
Other stuff you asked for also has no option settings

>>9181364
How about we make the cork a skull? Might be a little hard to pull off with an even number of pixels, but we can try.

>>9181349
I like the idea of darker liquid for berserk.
No, that's the first time I've been confused for him in particular.
>>9181354
Yeah, that's why I was proposing it for the stimpack, but if you're attached to the ring-bottle I understand.
>>9181364
I'd say the fact that it isn't animated would be a good enough clue, at least for me.

>>9181362
>>9181365
Thanks. Sucks that the monster height isn't an option but I guess it makes sense since the focus is demo compatibility. It's still the best port I've ever found for casual playing, though.

Also, still extremely minor, why the fuck can't you turn off the tiny timer thing? And what's the point of it? The level end screen gives your time anyway. It just seems like it would be a really easy thing to just let you turn off.

>>9181370
Well, I tried making a skull at this size and it speaks for itself, really. Just look at this goofy-ass lil' guy.
I'm going to sleep now, I'll do more spriting tomorrow. We're gonna make Ad Mortem the best it possibly can be, you hear?

>>9181209
I'm doing Ashes Weapons and Kriegsland Enemies.

>>9181209
Bubblegum Crisis Doom.

>dsda-doom saves screenshots right in its own folder instead of having a screenshots folder
the fuck?

>>9181430
GZDoom did that too until like 4.0.

>>9181246
>>9181324
The controls are built-into the phone?

Oh lord this is a bad idea. There's no way I'm going to make this look like what it looks like in my head.

>>9181465
that looks awesome

>>9181465
I think it looks cool, hope you get it to work the way you want in the title screen

>>9181469
>>9181474
The idea will be, eventually, that there's a giant tower with a hole in it with the teleporters outside and you go into the hole, then it turns really dark and then you get to the mapset's TITLEPIC and stop. The portal things are just a reference to the ones from the first TITLEMAP, but done in another style I made a while back. Fun fact: You can make those traversable if you really want, and they work exactly how you'd think they work.

>>9181476
>Fun fact: You can make those traversable if you really want, and they work exactly how you'd think they work
Sounds like a really cool concept for a map

>>9181484
Webm from forever ago of the same general concept. Really the only issue is if you go through one backwards it looks weird.

We have a few Mario-themed Doom wads, but what about Mario 3 specifically? It'd be fitting since id tried making a port of SMB3, and I think SMB3 textures are particularly nice

>>9181497
While not limited to SMB3, Super Mayhem '17 is decidedly "Classic Mario" themed compared to something like Golden Souls, but you probably knew about it already.

>>9180770 #
Fuck, posted this in old thread first
That's almost what I did for Ad Mortem secret exit, but with just radiation suit and lava. The idea to make it drugs and trippy pallettes sounds really fun
Also, if you want to fuck around with trippy visuals and pallettes in boom ports you should check out TRANMAPS, esselfortium made a guide on it I think

>>9181289

Fug, 3AM. At least I work noon to 8.
Well this is closer to what I was trying to do. Camera still needs work but I can't be fucked without some rest for my brain.

>>9181614
Oh and the thing at the end turns into TITLEPIC when it's actually used in a wad. It's just a placeholder for mapping testing and sheeeit.

>>9181465
>>9181614
This looks awesome - what's it for?
>>9181495
When this was posted a while back, I asked for WADs like it. The only thing that was suggested was Impossible: A New Reality. Any other mindfucky/visual trickery map sets?

>>9181293
Me too. The original Doom medkits fit the sci-fi setting, but the jugs look medieval, like Diablo health potions
>>9181349
Blood red jug looks great. Maybe use same color for stim and bonus.
>>9181354
This is good for stim

Got tricked into buying Vomitoreum for a buck and played through it twice. Any other (ideally better) wads out there that do the same exploration/revisiting old areas thing?

>>9181629
Golden Souls maybe? I think I'm close to finishing it and I see why people really like it.

i'm finally free
those were the most grueling two weeks of HD i've ever played
dozens of failed runs, half of them to random hard crashes, the other half dying to extremely dumb mistakes over an hour into the run
i don't want to look at this map ever again

>>9181671
that fun, huh

>>9181679
if only you knew how bad things really were
i had to engineer all sorts of stupid bullshit to bypass the destruction sequence but also still get 100% kills because the mapper put some monsters in isolated pockets to die for cinematic effect
i couldn't just run the destruction sequence normally because part of it uses a barrel explosion to push a voodoo doll, which in HD just means instant, unavoidable death
i actually fucked up and forgot part of my preparation, which resulted in two monsters reviving inside a sector that i couldn't break open or wallbang into so i had to noclip to get them
a small part of me doesn't want to upload this run because of that, but the much larger rest of me is so done with running that map that i don't care, it's good enough

>>9181071
>>9181406
Can we add new enemies? I propose:
Eviternity's Astral Cacodemon - sort of like a flying mancubus.

Valiant pyroknight - just an idea. It could be too similar to the current satyr.

Upgraded Baron (name pending) - pic related, has the same variety of attacks as the Valiant pyroknight (one-two, or triple blast)

Demonlet - https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/7671383/#q7676981

Here is a shitty demo map that at least contains various enemies to play with.
https://files.catbox.moe/bii0i9.zip

>>9181716
I vote against this. We already have enough custom enemies as is and they all work very well.

>>9181406
>>9181364
What speaks against using a black/dark liquid for zerk? That way you'd also keep the color coding of the original pickups.
Or how about making it an old-timey syringe?

>>9181037
>romero cacoward hope

*fun stops*

>>9181753
What I mean is something like this.
I tried staying within the dimensions of the original zerk, hence the short, thick syringe with the short needle. Shading is not finished obviously.

>>9180559
>Well, it would be if MALICE were winning the poll...
Fair enough.
>dawg...
Thanks for the links, even though they're easy to find. I might get to them eventually. Just rarely get to play maps/mods as I would rather focus on different games and other stuff.

Should I put more stuff into this area or is its odd shape good enough?

>>9181849
The shape is okay, hope you're not finished texturing yet.

>>9181861
>hope you're not finished texturing yet.
The entire map is made out of black cobblestone and it mostly works. I'll probably add some support pillars to break things up here though.

>>9181073

>>9181895
can I have some sauce to go with this image?

I heard that all versions of Half-Life 1 available now are broken in some way, with stuff like randomised tiling textures broken etc.

What is the absolute best way toplay HL1 and its mods in this day and age?

>>9181016
>>9181017
94 Protons Of /vr/
For those interested, go for broke! From August 11th to September 12th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6 (now works in Woof)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed (?)
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Optional Hunted style map: Unclaimed
We could have up to two of these if there's the interest for it. Feel free to be playful with the concept of an Arch-Vile labyrinth.

>Optional Dead Simple map: Finished
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 16 Maps!

To Do:
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>ENDOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.

>>9181910
Probably the original WON version on Xash.

>>9181914
What is WON and where do I get it?

>PrBoom+
>PrBoom+UM
>DSDA-Doom
>Woof!
What the FUCK is the difference????

>>9181895

>>9181928
Woof! has ENDOOM support and joystick support that doesn't completely suck.

>>9181938
Does Woof have the nice thing DSDA-Doom does where it organizes your saves based on what PWADs you're using

>>9181928
>PrBoom+
Improved version of Boom/GLBoom. Ceased development a while back, mouse input depends on system settings and some retards can't deal with that and complain that their mouse aiming is all wonky.
>PrBoom+UM
Continuation of PrBoom+ development with UMAPINFO and some MBF21 features. Decoupled mouse settings from OS, specially for retards.

MBF21 is a new and snazzy extension of MBF and DEHACKED features that allows for some weapon and gameplay modding while keeping it very close to vanilla, no DECORATE/ZScript bullshit.

>DSDADoom
Fork of PrBoom+UM, has everything it has plus DEHEXTRA and more complete MBF21 support, interval rewind, with Hexen and Heretic on top, and some features requested by speedrunner community

>Woof!
Port of WinMBF with MBF21 and DEHEXTRA, also supports ZDBSP but who the fuck uses that for non-GZDoom specific maps, might as well go GZDoom if you need that.

>>9181048
HDlite mod, with no terrible medical system and an intelligible HUD and no vinegar strokes, WHEN

>>9181946
>intelligible HUD
What's the problem with HD's HUD? Nowadays it's pretty goddamn efficient

>>9181465
Looks super cool

>>9181465
Interesting idea for a teleporter

Do you think there's a way to make a "view-through" portals to appear on maps that previously didnt have them through some ZScript sorcery?

>>9181917
I think it's somewhere in the OP pasta/mega whatever

>>9181907
https://i.imgur.com/NqgbxPt.jpg
dont know the sauce but thats the original atleast

>>9181993
That's definitely Kurashiki's art.

>>9181993
>>9181995
Never knew she did lewds as well as the adorably cute shit she draws.

I hope she's doing ok.

>>9181945
>2022
>being a PrBoom fan

>>9182039
>what is reading comprehension

>>9181948
And does the person not want to deal with any medical stuff? I just turned off the bleeds when I was initially getting into it, fun training wheels because I’d still get downed by a well thrown imp ball or lucky zombie shot.
I might not be opposed to HD having the option to limit the camera fuckery.

>>9182062
You get used to bleeding. Really as long as you're quick to kill whatever made you bleed to start with and plug yourself up there's not a problem.
It's only annoying when you have to use a blood pack and then seal up the wound afterwards, hate that shit.

>>9182064
My issue is getting used to the bleeds, wounds, and burns and then getting spoiled by a helmet and soulsphere for a few levels. It can be hard to readjust to at time.

>>9182073
Like I said, you get used to it with enough practice. I recommend binding the "remove armor" key and keep it handy so you can mash it and quickly strip off your backpack and armor to start stapling.

What I never get used to and always get butt-burgled over is getting randomly shot in the head by some fucking zombieman I didn't see and instantly dying.

>>9182079
>What I never get used to and always get butt-burgled over is getting randomly shot in the head by some fucking zombieman I didn't see and instantly dying.
That’s often been a line cross for me too. I even like this trauma kit on older HD versions but getting “lolded” headshotted has been bumming my runs, especially when I’m trying to limit my saves.

Does anybody here knows how the hell does Final Doomer does its reload function intercept to show you the lore tidbits about the weapon?

>>9182090
Looks like it's an ACS script that reads the input and then prints out the info from the LANGUAGE.weaponinfo

>>9182058
>reading comprehension
>yeah prboom has cool stuff and btw fuck chicken man for his chicken bullshit
>yeah dsda (which is a fork of prboom) is awesome dude
>woof is okay but fuck chicken man for his chicken bullshit
Yeah totally not a fanboy

>>9182106
>>reading comprehension

Tell me about colorful doom,is it worth it? or its the random element too annoying?

>>9182164
Colorful hell*

Finally finished Eternal.
Map 20 was bullshit, but it was fun bullshit. Map 30 was just plain bullshit. It's like they created the layout, and then just used some gaussian randomizer to tag linedef with actual sectors. Nothing of this makes sense, like 3/4 of "progression" is using some random switch and then backtracking through every single room to see changes. Or even worse, not the switch, but just some linedef in the middle of the room.
I probably enjoyed every single map of Eternal, some real 10/10 SOVL-filled levels there, but 30 is just tiresome and not fun. Also "progression" aside, the map itself sucks, it's plain, boring, way too much open empty unused spaces. Only eastern part of the map was interesting.
Pic related is where I had to check the walkthrough, found some bullshit X marks on the walls, all the secrets, but this was way too much, also was way too tired at this point, took me around 3 hours total.
Way too much favorites to name one.

Thanks for reading my esl blog.

>>9181465
It's Prey!

>>9182164
It's actually pretty fun, goes well with legendoom lite.

Obviously fits with LA Tailor Girl too.

>>9181463
Yes.

>>9182164
i mix it with champions, legendoom lite, cards of corruption and trailblazer

>>9182313
>Trailblazer
I see why you'd use all of that, it's the least OP of the Pillowblaster mods and it's still just being able to cakewalk the game with just about any single weapon.

>>9182164
The red, black, and white enemies are EXTREMELY tanky, only use it with weapon mods that are way more ammo efficient than vanilla doomguy
DRLA monsters can get really nasty like the armageddon cacos shooting slow moving instakill balls or a railgun shot, but they tend to cap out at double the original mob's HP instead of the HP of 5 cyberdemons on a rare revenant

These brutal wolfenstein episode 2-3 bosses look impossible to beat without savescum,I might just be a shitter

>>9181787
*mood*

>>9181623
Babel's new Titlemap since I don't like the old one. I want to make sure it at least displays the TITLEPIC of the mapset since I'm sick of missing out on them.
>>9181951
I mean, if you can set tags on a few lines, set one to have action 156, and then plane align them, yeah probably. I don't know how much nodebuilder magic goes into them though, they might not be smoothly traversable if you make them like that.

is there supposed to be a clicking sound when shotguns fire in the latest hdest master? It wasn't there in the stable 4.71. It's really distracting and sounds like my sound card giving up

>>9182435
what is this? if you're on gzdoom, disabling HRTF in the sound options removes glitches.

>>9182106
Dude, I was annoyed by the guy complaining about people being rightfully pissed by retarded mouse mechanics (I have to change system settings each time I play doom? Who you're calling retard, retard?), but read that again, he actually recommends gzdoom

Many people jumped to conclusion that recent changes for some older id games on Steam point towards a Quake 2 re-release, but personally I lean (even) more towards Wolfenstein 3D recieving that treatment since it was just ignored for whatever reason.
If it happens though, I don't think there would be Add-ons. Not on release, at least.

>>9182449
>but read that again, he actually recommends gzdoom
Please, show me where he actually recommends gzdoom instead of using it to belittle woof.

Many people jumped to conclusion that recent changes for some older id games on Steam point towards a Quake 2 re-release, but personally I lean (even) more towards Wolfenstein 3D recieving that treatment since it was just ignored for whatever reason.
If it happens though, I don't think there would be Add-ons. Not on release, at least.
Forgot the pic.

>512 Lines - Helter Smelter
Very hectic, despite all the different monsters at once you can't just let infighting do its thing due to the cramped spaces. But you really gotta love viles constantly hiding behind assholes.

>>9181071
Let's be smart and release on October 1st instead of 31st so people get to play our Halloween maps in the months of October.

>>9181946
The medical system in the stable version is already pretty good.
Press and hold use for HUD.
Toggle shit from the options.
Asides all that, adquire proficiency.

>>9182469
Any remastering for any older Wolfenstein would make sense if they’re looking to announce a new title.

Is there a flashlight mod for Doom 3 that just centers the light on the cross hair? Maybe makes it a little larger?
Tried searching, but all I get is duct tape mod/yafm/people bitchint about BFG edition.

I'm at my first baby steps when comes to mapping and I'm trying to add a light switch to a vanilla map, similar to the one in the blue key room in MAP04

Is there a howto/tutorial I can read/watch somewhere? just to set me on the right track

I'm working in SLADE3 but UDB is fine, too..

>>9182501
>I'm working in SLADE3 but UDB is fine, too..
do yourself a favor and switch over to UDB completely, even if you're creating a vanilla/boom map

>>9182501
I suggest you watch any kind of mapping tutorial that explains the basics, such as how to make doors, how to make switches and in general how line actions work.
It works like every other line action. When you understand how line actions work, it's all the same.
Generally to have a line action do something with a sector, the sector number needs to be the same as the line's number.
Please note here that it's the value you set under "Tag" in the properties, not the *actual* number (e.g. "Linedef 311" when hovering over it in UDB).
In your case you would then choose a line action from the "lighting" group; th only two that are switches(in Doom, i.e. vanilla format) are 138 and 139 that change the light level to either bright or dark. Tag your lines and sectors accordingly and it should work.

>>9182501
Slade's really bad for mapping, which is funny because it was made for that.

>>9181716
If (big fucking if) we add new monsters, they should 1. fulfill a niche that the existing ones do not fulfill already and 2. be really fucking good.
Captain Mozzarella can probably lend a hand here but he's MIA again ;_;
I'll read up on the sprite discussion later. In the meantime, here's a concept for the berserk.

I think, if I have to draw another fucking sector triangle manually, I'm going to lose my mind. I even copypasted some of these. God why do I do this to myself.

>>9182601
Exactly, why?
I mean seriously, what are you even trying to do here?

thoughts about doom hunter?

>>9182613
I love this guy's design, he feels like a Quake 2 monster that a five year old came up with. I can imagine a excited child telling the artist all of his ideas as they come along, like "oooh, make him have a rocket launcher, a double chainsaw and make it flaming and give him tank tracks with missile launchers and miniguns and..."

>>9182612
Simple, sloped floors that don't look like shit. Basically, if you have a sector made entirely of triangles, UDB can modify the vertex heights individually to make perfectly aligning slopes. Since I'm a retarded faggot I want to make the same "Tower with tentacles" design as I did in the last titlemap, but better, so I'm forcing myself to do this.

>>9182625
Ahhhhh this is UDMF, now it makes sense.
Very well, carry on then.

>>9182481
big brain big brain
I'll be playing Ad Mortem for the first time but I'm waiting for Oct. 1st...I'll have 2 to play now.

>>9182628
Can't do cool portals without UDMF, sadly. Every second that I work with this format is a second I'm reminded of why nobody fucking uses it.

>>9182613
>thoughts about doom hunter?
None that come to mind.

>>9182613
like the necron destroyer-ish design and the d64 chainsaw easter egg
has any doom mod imported them yet?

>>9182630
>Every second that I work with this format is a second I'm reminded of why nobody fucking uses it.
lmao because they're brainlets overchallenged with a bunch of new features?

>>9182635
No, because using half of those new features is like operating a smartphone app on punch cards and the results aren't much better than just using a later engine like Quake's. To be fair though, the other half is almost entirely because people don't really want to bother learning them.

>>9182637
>is like operating a smartphone app on punch cards and the results aren't much better than just using a later engine like Quake's
made me giggle desu

>>9182597
FWIW he designed the Demonlet that I linked, although I envision it being faster.
>roles/niches
Demonlet -- very fast, very low HP melee monster, hence very high priority.
Valiant Pyroknight -- At 500 hp, it's tankier than the Satyr, and also has a slightly upgraded attack (50% chance to cast triple fireball). Retains default movespeed to make it slower than Satyr.
Pyrobaron -- Has the same upgraded attacks as pyroknight, but also has the movespeed buff of the Satyr, to make it extra deadly
Astral Cacodemon -- flying mancubus (they cast 3 fireballs)

>>9182650
The Valiant Super-mancubus could be fun, too.

The Pyroknight has too much overlap with the satyr so that is the weakest candidate so far, but the pyrobaron is cool

>>9182597
My go-to idea for a monster - flying wizard that shoots stream of fast projectiles that are homing but not very well (Doing only minor correction before zooming right past). I was told it's possible but I didn't learn how to make new monsters yet.

I even made a dark bishop recolor in doom palette, but if you want to accept my idea, I'd like Ad Mortem version to not be blue.

This is someone's fault and I'm blaming Graf.
>fucking lanterns fall off the edge of the tower because slope too steep

>>9182683
why don't you put the on a invisible ledge, or remove their gravity?

What are some good wads like strife?

>>9181254
>I don't really know what I'm asking, just general advice?
>At work I'll write down ideas for environment design

I'm not really a "dev" but I'm also aspiring to be one. My advice would be, start with making maps for the kind of shooters you want to play while also working on other relevant skills (coding, making 3d models, learning sprite art etc) on the side.
From mapping there's a natural segway to modding, you could do something like weapon / NPC skins, models etc, get a feel on how all of that works.

The idea here is to not have to start with a HUGE project on your hands all at once, but rather something with a manageable scope from where you can expand. If you don't have the commitment to start with a *map* for a game, chances are that you'll give up on the game project as well especially since you're still very much undecided on the style.

Dunno if you're committed to doing it alone / have a strong vision you MUST fulfill on your own but you have a stronger chance of getting somewhere if you learn to do something concrete (like map design and having working showcases in an actual shooter) and then pitching the idea to someone who's more gifted in art, coding, music etc.

The thing is, you have to bring SOMETHING to the table other than just ideas / being the lead.

Tl;dr , download Doombuilder, Hammer editor,Mapster 3d, Trenchbroom etc, some game with gameplay that is closes to what you're thinking of doing and construct gameplay sections you want to achieve etc, maybe make a full map after that etc.

That's how I'm personally planning on starting. First making a map or two, maybe even a small level set. Elevate that into a mod and mix other people's work like custom guns / enemies (with credits / permission of course) with maybe some of my own work / commissioned sprites.

But that's only after I get past the initial stage of producing a testbed map.

Good luck dude!

>>9182686
Just did the second one, I thought telling them to "Stay Still" would work but that would make too much sense.

>>9182675
the monster looks cool but the fireball could use more work

>>9182683
Because they're sometimes on shit like elevators and other moving surfaces, and can't just stay put? This isn't a problem for like 98% of all maps.

>>9182683
i want to play this

>>9182697
It's just GZDoom's stupid physics combined with UDMF ultrafaggotry. Thankfully this isn't a "playable" map so I can just hack shit together.
>>9182703
It's going to be the titlemap for the new Babel version when it's done, but sadly it's not designed to be "playable" exactly.

>>9182708
>but sadly it's not designed to be "playable" exactly.
am cry

>>9182713
I assure you, the portals are cool and all, but there are a few issues. See example map here https://files.catbox.moe/2ut6go.wad if you wanna see how they work. Also other portal map I made a long time ago here https://files.catbox.moe/07xiyt.wad with more random shit.

I don't know why I insist on making faux-3D effect, I bet you don't even see it on this screenshot.

>>9182694
It shoots two types of fireball, like valiant's pyroknight. The smaller projectile is lifted directly from valiant and the larger one is from some realm667 monster

>>9182726
thanks. very cool stuff but yeah i imagine it can get quite buggy

>>9182743
the flesh key

>>9182683
>make steep slope
>wonder why things fall off
>REEEEE CHICKEN MAN
I mean come on anon, if you use those features you have to make do with how they are working.

>>9182785
I can and will also blame Graf for my stubbed toe, and the fact that Youtube's playlist keeps repeating the same songs over and over when it used to work perfectly around five years ago. In fact, it's Graf's fault my car needs its brakes changed too.

>>9182743
Looks fucking good.

>>9182802
What about your girl leaving you?

>>9182835
Haha, as if that's ever happened to me

>>9182846
Me neither haha

>>9182835
>>9182846
>>9182889
Guys, did you get cucked by the Chickenman?

Alternate idea for this corner. Hairy skin wasn't really working for it. This is now vomit room.

>>9182897
Fuck me, the last time I vomited tentacles I was out of order for three whole worse. Comes back up worse than wine.

>>9182613
id tried making their own nu-doom version of the baron, a boss encounter that later starts showing up as a regular enemy. But he isn't all too threatening and I can't even remember what exactly he does because he's either out of my view or I'm in the process of vaporizing him in 3 seconds.

Alright, well, I gave up on the open-air teleporters a bit since making a 3D floor fit over them was hard and the sky would fuck up and cut off parts of the tower without one, so now it starts in a complex/base or some shit and flies out into open air.

>>9182949
Haha whoops why the FUCK is this broken now aaaaa

>>9182613
I think they're pretty cool.

>>9182949
What exactly was hard about fitting 3d floors over them?

>>9181387
>Also, still extremely minor, why the fuck can't you turn off the tiny timer thing? And what's the point of it? The level end screen gives your time anyway. It just seems like it would be a really easy thing to just let you turn off.
The sourceport is for speedrunning.

>>9183001
It fucked up the portal linedef. They're not really supposed to be different heights, it makes the rendering bug out a bit from some angles. I could have probably fiddled with it for a while until I got it looking okay from the camera angles but instead I just went "Ah fuck it" and made a base.

>>9183001
The prey type portals are a bitch to make with 3d floors, there is an alternative for it however, i saw it in a video with the heavy texan accent dude that made it but i am not sure that might be usefull.

>>9181016
I love this OP.

>>9181017
>>9181912
Update for 94 Protons of /vr/:
https://files.catbox.moe/cky005.zip
"Peaceful Rest Valley" v6 by donk_konk
MIDI: Forest of Monsters from Super Castlevania IV (https://vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/Cv4-st2.mid))
Tested with DSDA-Doom v0.24.2

Fixed (hopefully) the death exit teleporter and removed the delay for the exit Archvile.

>>9183008
>>9183010
Not quite sure how exactly the setup is, but what about just using traditional techniques like masking a roof with lowered 1u sky sectors?

>>9183029
Makes giant pillars of sky that obscure the tower from certain angles. I'm not actually upset that I had to change it, I like it the way it is now.

>>9183031
>giant pillars of sky
Who wants to join my new indie rock band?

>>9183031
Shit, I hoped you wouldn't say that.

Oh my fuck it looks even better than I thought it would. I'd make it adjust distance based on user resolution but honestly that's going a bit far. Adjusting the final cam height was super simple, and I doubt anyone is going to be playing in sub-320x200.

>>9182491
They're yet to reveal the final new Wolfenstein game and this year is 30th anniversary of 3D, so it's a perfect moment to reveal new game and re-release an old one.
>>9182892
No. They just prefer men.
>>9183061
>and I doubt anyone is going to be playing in sub-320x200.
INB4 Some anon does just that. I'm too lazy for this shit.

>>9183074
>controller
Gross.

Trying to decide if this is a good idea. Torches fill otherwise empty space on either side of the titlepic when you're in 16:9, but the full black background is also pretty neat.

what wads should I check if I my favorites are Sunder and Germs

>>9183061
Great fucking job anon!

>>9183091
Sunlust

>>9183074
>smoking controller
Must’ve been trying real hard at those secrets

>>9183061
Fucking nice!

>>9183081
Not as gross as the flat chest.

https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5519054/#5526840

well I found pyromania along with some other stuff

>>9183084
I'd have it full black unless you plan to have some kind of border around the titlepic so it's not just sort of freestanding there.

>>9183117
Yeah this is my thought, I'm not sure what kind of border I could use though, since it'll need to adjust its height as well, I'll have to experiment.
>>9183095
>>9183105
Thanks.

First concept for the Berserk.

Can you tell what it is supposed to be?

>>9183179
>This whole mapset is a pussy, just waiting to get FUCKED!
So much potential for cokehead quotes.

>>9183179
Perfect.

>>9181030
>find a new wad
>play 5 levels, have fun
>die
>dont want to spend another 5 minutes replaying map
>find a new wad

I'm not going to lie, this was fucking satisfying to pull off. Pretty sure it would fuck up with non-90 FOVs, but idgaf tbqh.

>>9183238
>playing saveless the first time around
You have only yourself to blame.

>>9183243
>fuck up with non-90 FOV
or different aspect ratios probably.

>>9181030
>>9183238
I save scum I don't give a fuck.
I don't have the time to play through the same parts the same way 10 times to get back to where I was.
There are too many good wads and too many good other vidya/things to watch to be wasting that type of time over and over again.

>Chocolate Doom Setup crashes and Chocolate Doom has sound issues.
>i'm on Windows 11 and with the last version of choco.
what do?

>>9183263
Nah, uses a constant derived from VFOV so it should be fine. I'm gonna try it out with 4:3 just to be sure though.

>>9183270
Stop using 11

>>9183243
It's like you're talking them to an unholy movie theater to see the latest wad being played.

>>9183107

>>9183276
well too late

>>9183263
>>9183271
Well, it does cut off the edges, but using a 4:3 does that on regular titlepics so the rendering is nearly identical. What's important is that the top and bottom are centered no matter what.
>>9183278
The original concept for this was to have the first titlemap be playing on a monitor in an office, then have the camera watching that one move out into the new one, passing by a bunch of other monitors displaying other "maps" through portals on the monitors. I kinda chucked it when I realized how much of a pain in the ass it would be.

>>9183283
That sort of idea would probably work for a Compendium or Wadsmooshed sort of thing, have a rat map with old school style sector PCs and each one is the entrance to the chosen wad.

>>9183281
And the art is fucking shit.

>>9183308
It's all just visual in this case, but yeah, it was partially inspired by one of the DUMPs that had the pictures, I just figured I'd do it a bit different. Either way, I'm fairly happy with what I've got here. It seems like the FOV is always 90 on the titlemap even if it's set to something else, so that actually resolves a huge amount of potential issues.

is there a way to disable fake contrast in Woof?
and how do i change the soundfont?

Any good blood fan levels, other than the /vr/ stuff?

>>9183074
>>9183107
>>9183281
>>9183313
she could have looked like this in a less wokeish timeline

>>9183327
Looks like a committee wanted a family-friendly version of Tank Girl.

>>9182691
Thanks for the encouragement! I was considering making a Serious Sam mod because the type of shooter(s) I want to make are definitely more in line with SS than anything else. But I'm already familiar with Trenchbroom and the rhythms of Quake combat, so I think I'm going to do exactly what you suggested: map, and then mod with some QuakeC. Good luck with your projects!

>>9183332
other pieces of concept show boob so not "family friendly", as it was originally a Duke spin-off...
a bit more politically correct maybe

>>9183332
I like this one, but change her to not look like tank girl too much. Add some police stuff, the armor could be there as well.

I think simple clothing like a jacket and top and jeans is enough.
I think fluffy 80s hair glam rock look with police armor elements would rock.

>>9183351
Yeah, family friendly was not well worded, I wanted to say "less offensive", as in "wider appeal", what with generic blonde and all.

>>9181603
Fight me irl.

>>9183397
I wanna fight you, if I can defeat you in single combat it means I take your powers. I need to get better at art stuff.
This is how it works, right?

Maybe we shoudl be thankful she didn't get netflix treatment. I dont know.

>>9183327
this kinda reminds me of sin city, for a reason
like those art pieces from other artists that frank miller adds after the blam sections in big fat kill

Should I go for the Salinger, the Tycho or the Pfhor plank on my first playthrough of Rubicon X?

>>9183404
You can either practice fighting, or practice arting.

>>9183436
I've done both though. But I feel like I'm lacking in art ability because fuck perspective.
Now draw your sword, fuckboy.

>>9183436
What if I practice farting?

>>9183409
Reminds me more of something out of 40k. Or Dredd.

Jesus Christ get a room already, the sexual tension is unbearable.

>>9183448

>>9183441
When my head gets cut off and the lighting highlanders out of my body it actually just electrocutes you.
There can be only none.

>>9183456
That's not very conducive to getting anything done. New plan: If I need help with something I'll just ask you nicely.

>>9183462
>conducive
conductive
But you can try that, too.

>>9183465
ALRIGHT I CHANGED MY MIND.

>>9183332

>>9183473
Fuck, I forgot I have to play that game.

Sorry for the normie question; is it worth picking up the Steam release of Quake 1?

Basically is there any reason not to stick with Quakespasm?

>>9183537
You can deathmatch with console plebs if you really want to. Otherwise I guess it makes co-op more convenient - not having to port forward and whatnot.
The new expansion can be played on most modern engines now so that selling point is gone.

>>9183552
Oh cool to hear about the expansion.
Is Quakespasm not the recommended engine anymore, was it superceded?

>>9183569
vkQuake and Ironwail are considered the best engines for vanilla Quake and most mods that aren't total conversions.

>>9183569
not him but:
VKQuake(dunno how old is the last build) has better performance but it's a Quakespasm fork anyway.
unless they have been merged by now?
i've been living under a rock
The steam release is pretty good as of now, has easy expansion install like with doom unity
i'm still sperging about the underwater color but that's just me.
the steam version also fixes the texture clipping issues that reveal secrets in other hardware rendered ports.

>>9183584
*VKQuake because it runs with Vulkan instead of OpenGL

>>9183581
>vkQuake and Ironwail are considered the best engines for vanilla Quake and most mods that aren't total conversions.
Ah, so sorta like how Chocolate Doom is vs GZDoom?

>>9183591
Well, the Quake equivalent of GZDoom would be FTE, though it's more geared towards multiplayer and making your own Quake engine game.

stop pretending doom always had 36 levels

>>9183602

>>9182682
That's a very cool idea. Fits with the texture set of the wad, too. It's possible to make custom homing projectiles with their own turning radius and speed using MBF21 but I dunno how

>>9183602
No

>>9183608
kek saved

>>9183179
Nope. It's bad.

>>9183179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFJ62vlZbls

>>9183324
https://blood-wiki.org/index.php?title=List_of_Mods
Scroll down to find a list of custom maps for Blood, both WIP and finished.

>>9183356

>>9182613
Doom 3 Kelly Boss, but better.

baron with cyberdemon's hp

So the story screens in Ancient Aliens don't play unless you're using GZDoom?

any monster pack mods that aren't listed here? https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=50504

>>9183714
>Some fag from ZDF actually listed Babel
Thanks I hate it.

Name all the quake forums

>>9183710
or Eternity

>>9183448

>>9183719
At least it's only a honourable mention and not in with the shit like that fucking avian mod.

>>9183729
whats the most compatible engine? eternity or gz?

>>9183775
>>9183729
and i mean overall like all the wads out there, which one strikes the most points?

>>9183107
Or the weird deviantart nose.

>>9183778
What kind of wads are you counting here? Maps? Gameplay mods? TCs?

>>9183789
mostly megawads and TC nothing exotic.
i've had glitches on GZ with Perdition's Gate even with the patch...

>>9183769
Pretty sure that's only because it doesn't add "new" monsters. I'm not going to assume any of them played it, because if they had they'd know that the AI is more different from the original monsters than damned near everything else on that list. Still, I wonder if Hellser realizes that I specifically avoid their forum and doomworld like the plague because every single time I've ever tried to involve myself with them they've either talked shit about me behind my back or tried to bait me into saying shit to get myself banned, in addition to giving me shit for trying to help them with stuff. Genuinely, I fucking hate every staff member of those sites with only a few exceptions. Considering how they like to deperson and exclude everyone who isn't in their hugbox I can only assume they don't really know this.

>>9183813
It lists LegenDoom in the main thing though, which I assume means LegenDoom lite, and hat doesn't add anything.
> I've ever tried to involve myself with them they've either talked shit about me behind my back or tried to bait me into saying shit to get myself banned,
I had to get out of their Discords and shit for this reason, pure backstabbing and talking behind people's back, and the forums are basically just Rachel using Graf and other shit as an excuse to wield admin powers to get rid of people.

Definitely not a place to really hold in high regard, or go there if you can avoid it.

>Wolfenstein X Hearts of liberty
>Brutal Wolfenstein
>Wolfenstein Blade of Agony
Any opinion on these? i dont know which one to try and complete first

I figured I would use a trip to distinguish myself from the original lead.
>MONSTERS
There's already plenty of new monsters in Ad Mortem, and if we are to add more, then I think 2 would be a hard limit before bloating the roster. To reiterate, they should fulfill a niche the others don't already fulfill, and they should ideally have sprites that complement the gothic setting (more on that later.) Right now, I'm thinking Captain Mozzarella's Baby Pinky and anon's Bishop recolor to be the best bet.
>MAPS
The strawpoll got 6 yes votes, 10 maybes, and 3 no votes. That means we should at least be getting 6 new maps, which I will be more than happy with. However, there is a standard of quality that the maps must meet, this isn't just a simple grab-bag mapping project like the minutes of /vr/ series. I'm not setting an astronomically high bar here, but I'm at least expecting something higher than Tricks and Treats.
On that note, the authors of Tricks and Treats and Uncle Reggie's Candy Factory both plan to polish their maps up to par with the rest of the set. If you currently have a map in the set, then I advise you to do the same.
>DEVELOPMENT
Ad Mortem originally started on August 28th, and I'm thinking we should start on the 27th, but we can go lower if we need to allow more time for contributors. Another anon suggested the release date being October 1st rather than the 31st, which I find unrealistic, but I do agree we should have this project out sooner rather than later. I'm thinking the 14th should be the submission deadline with the following week being for additional polish and testing, and the 21st will be the formal release. Again, this can be pushed up to allow for more development time, but the sooner, the better.

1/2

>>9183813
mate I just want a monster pack mod that isn't listed there

>>9183836
>IN A PERFECT WORLD
This is just shit that I would like to have, but is not required.
I am in close contact with Captain Mozzarella, and he has expressed interest in contributing to Ad Mortem. With his help, he can create unique monster sprites for new monsters, as well as create skins for the existing monsters to complement the gothic aesthetic, just as he did with HFFM, or as Ancient Aliens does with the Mancubus and Arachnotron. Problem is, he's currently stuck in what he describes as France's equivalent of Ohio and has no internet access for miles, so I don't know if he's gonna come back to contribute in time.
Chopblock has also expressed interest in creating sprites for the Plasma Gun and BFG, but seeing how he's preoccupied with 94 Protons of /vr/, we'll have to see if he can deliver on that front.

2/2

Questions, comments, concerns, hatemail, insults, fire away.

>>9183778
I dunno what you mean. GZDoom is the most all-in-one port in the sense that it can play the most wads. I like Eternity over GZDoom because it keeps the same default Doom mouse sensitivity that I'm used to, but Ancient Ayys is too beautiful of a megawad to play in software rendering, which is Eternity's only renderer, so I use From Doom With Love, the only vr-autist-made port I'm aware of

>>9183837
any of these catch your fancy just by name? i could upload in mediafire if you want

>>9183827
Oh my issues with them far pre-date Discord but I did the same thing. I still lurk those channels for the rare case where I want to Ctrl+F something in one of the help channels, but holy christ the community is awful.
Example: Years ago I asked for ACS help. I got ZScript help, which I didn't ask for. I tell the person condescending me about ZScript "Yeah okay that's cool but I wanted ACS help, can you help with ACS?". Cue the shittalking, which continued for another hour after I "logged off" and appeared offline. When they start talking mad shit I pop in a message and say "Yeah btw I'm still here so why don't you say that to my face?" and Rachel loses her fucking mind (she was one of the people talking shit btw) and nearly everyone tells me to shut up or get banned.
Basically what I'm saying is that I'd rather be called a faggot and have some autismo sperg at me about dumb shit I said when making FKER almost a decade ago than interact with those people, and that's saying something. It helps that, looking back, I would call me from ten years ago a retarded asshole too.
>>9183837
Speaking of which, https://files.catbox.moe/dfykdl.pk3
This is the final version of my first real mod with the weapons stripped out, a monster randomizer that uses rebalanced shit from realm 667. Generally speaking it's like a very "tame" randomizer, with all enemy health between +-50% of the base monster and attacks not hugely out of tier for most things. Goes well with weapon packs that are a bit more powerful than vanilla. It's probably not "new" to you if you play a lot of these, but it might be interesting.

>>9183843
Ancient Aliens looks really nice in True Color Software mode in GZ.

>>9183846
both duke nukem monsters mod look appealing though i do recall an anon complaining about the balance once. i play monsterpacks mostly with mods though so shouldn't be too much of an issue, should be good
>>9183848
this sounds good too, though i can't access catbox.moe right now for some reason. I'll check it out later when I get catbox.moe to work
Thanks anons

>>9183848
I've experienced something similar with those fucks, somebody asked for how to do some shit with Decorate, they jumped onto them with the zscript shit (which the dude said he don't understand or want to use because zandy compatibility), I gave the dude a functional solution from one of my prototypes, they all start losing their shit at me for it being an inelegant solution that should be in zscript.

Their forum part saying mods for other source ports are welcome is bullshit, rock the boat with that shit and they lose their shit.

>>9183856
https://mega.nz/file/7pdVgAgB#JggL5NzFWfgos7TmLt6wo3IzJBJInw-cRXcZbw9ZBuU
Try this link then, I've had it on mega for ages.

>>9183836
>bloat
I agree this is a risk, and I regret proposing the pyroknight. With that said, I think there is a strong case for Demonlet, Pyrobaron, Eviternity Astral Caco, and Valiant Supermanc
>niches
Demonlet is fast, low hp, high priority melee.
Pyrobaron is just a lot funner and cooler than baron.
Astral Caco is like a fast flying mancubus.
Supermanc fires a literal wall of fire.

>>9183858
Yeah, they're pretty fucking retarded. I think half the reason ZS never got ANY docs besides the bits on the wiki is purely because they enjoy making people go to them and beg for help. If I was a bit more spiteful and a bit less busy, I'd write a giant set of docs myself. I did a few videos with ZS tutorials on Bitchute years ago, but I had to drop off because of real life issues. These days I wouldn't even know where to begin with that. I've been using ZS for so long that things I know used to be confounding to me are so easy I can do them without thinking, so I'd probably just end up making something useless.

>>9183856
Yeah i was the one complaining,ZimDukeNukem has pinkies replaced by drones who use shrink ray (Not sure if that last infinitely until you get crushed and die) while DukeNukem3dv10 is just tough in general with its monster varieties and the enforcer with its freeze gun instant gibbing you, here is the link anyways and remember to just use one of the PK3 at a time

https://www.mediafire.com/file/fmo2o6497fvbvte/DukeNukemEnemies.rar/file

>Corruption cards+Brutal wolfenstein
>Give grunts the ability to pick up items
>expect them to steal keys,ammo,medkits,etc
>they also steal tables,fountains,lamps and everything thats not nailed down
hearty kek

>>9183864
>Pyrobaron is just a lot funner and cooler than baron.
We already have the Satyr for a fun noble.

>>9183875
This usually happens when they've been lazy and used something as the base actor for everything else to inherit from.

I've seen one mod where the fuckers were carrying trees around.

>>9183836
>Uncle Reggie's ... up to par with the rest of the set
I was late to the party with AM and didn't read the discussion, but that map was one of my favorites from the whole thing. felt a bit on the hard fast & faggoty side, but I didn't have any problems with it (unlike, say, Torture Garden). just for the record.

>>9183904
>HANS, FETCH ZE TANNENBAUM

>>9183864
I strongly disagree with expanding the custom monster bestiary any further than the boners and the satyrs. Reskins of regular enemies are fine, but we don't want this to end up like a Realm 667 mash up. Cohesion is incredibly important.

>>9183872
admittedly i'm more of a fan of dn3doom since I feel it's a lot more balanced, and more fun to play, but the gripe I have is that you can't separate dn3doom into standalone monster and weapon packs

How many long-ass maps are in Ancient Aliens because I've spent 30 minutes in MAP09 and only have the red key
I really liked the early fast and flow-y type levels, and this one's fine too but man I don't want there to be too much of them

>>9184074
map 09 iirc was made by a guest mapper and not skillsaw
episode 2's maps start short again, but map 16 is pretty long. episode 3 is a mixed bag both in length and quality because the majority of it was also made by guest mappers

>>9183846
I wonder what ReplaceAllEnemiesWithArchvilesV2 does.

>>9182428
>I want to make sure it at least displays the TITLEPIC of the mapset since I'm sick of missing out on them.
Oh, that would be geat! You must've seen my comment from the last thread lol. I'm very interested in this update - looking forward to more.

>>9184074
only a couple, map09 is joshy's I think. pinchy's map is also very long, but it's map25 or thereabout. most maps are 10-15 min.

>>9183485
It's very average. The initial "wandering around the village before the violence hits" is probably the worst bit.

>>9184189
It's basically done. Just camera work in a few other things left.
However, apparently my new apartment complex shares IPs between units, because a post that I didn't make on a board that I don't post on just got me banned. So unfortunately I'm going to have to wait a couple of days, and probably yell at my landlord tomorrow.

We've got a little problem anons, I don't know what font Vaeros used for the text in Ad Mortem, so to make more text for level names and such, we'll have to
1. Track down the font ourselves
2. Wait for Vaeros to come back and provide it (seeing how there's been no sign of life for 3 months, this is unlikely.)
3. Reconstruct the font manually
I'm not gonna let this stop me. If all else fails, then I'll do option 3, but it would be nice if we could just find the font itself.
That aside,
>>9183864
I can see the demonlets working as a swarmer enemy, but I just can't see the rest doing anything the existing monsters already do but better. I'll also echo what >>9183937 said, we don't want this turning to an R667 clusterfuck.

Why does the Berserk pack make the screen turn red for a time? It gives the impression that the Berserk is temporary when it is in fact permanent for the level, which took me a long time to figure out.

>>9184245
Cambria
"House of Fisting" is in a larger size than "King Boner's" though for some reason

>>9184303
Crisis averted, let's carry on.
I realize I said "94 Protons is wrapping up soon" but I didn't notice the deadline got extended to September. With that acknowledged, I'm still kicking AM off sometime this month.

>>9184303
>"House of Fisting" is in a larger size than "King Boner's" though for some reason
I think that particular graphic might have been made by splicing two together. I know that map in particular's full name was "Scared Stiff in King Boner's House of Fisting" and IIRC "House of Fisting" was proposed to shorten it before "King Boner's House of Fisting" was settled on.

>>9183243
test it with something like 150.
>>9182613
very fun enemy, hope to see kar en tuk do it.

>>9184393

>>9184393
may i ask what's good about this one and why should i play it?

>>9184396
it looks nice but seems boring.
the visuals are more advanced than doom.
i think you get a gun and a special power
i only played the first couple levels.
maybe it gets better into the game.
i didnt think the alien fps was that good either.

>>9183091
Abandon is basically an unofficial sequel for 2009's Sunder

>>9182524
what node builder is recommended for vanilla maps intended to play on both software- and opengl-renderers?

>>9184452
just use zdbsp and never think about it again

>>9183569
I've jumped to vkquake and iron wail because they support supersampling

>>9182613
It looks dumb as hell.

So something I've been wondering about blues, since I watched Kegan's Chainworm run. Is there an upper limit to the amount you can have in you? If I have a few and decide to just chug every new bottle I get, am I wasting them? Also is it intended that the character no longer automatically tosses the bottle after you're finished? I've had to select a weapon afterwards.

>>9182930
worst offender with nu-doom are the sounds.
i can't remember what any of the demons'grunts or screams sound like and i've played the games many times.

>>9183327
Thankfully, her current version is better than whatever abomination they planned for DNF.
>>9183537
Re-release is good for your first Quake experience. It also offers easier co-op and deathmatch options, as >>9183552
mention. Including with bots, which is good for lazy bastards like me.
As for the Quakespasm... You can stick with it if you want, but nowadays people would mostly suggest Ironwail or vkQuake (again, as it was already mentioned by anons). QuakeSpasm-Spiked is also an option, just not as popular currently.

>>9184507
>Thankfully, her current version is better than whatever abomination they planned for DNF.
her current version is as bland as unseasoned rice.

>>9182613
>>9183692
I thought Sabaoth was more interesting than the DH, honestly
>your own boss turns into a half man half tank, which even affects movement
>uses the BFG's own mechanisms against you, something that would have made people shit their pants in the 90's for it being the series' ultimate weapon and how it's the first version to have a tracer system
vs
>some horned demon with a sled that looks like it was inspired by that WH40K design
>shoots homing rockets and is either plasma bait or blood punch bait because of its shield and sled system
>destroy that and he just shoots mechanically typical projectiles while acting as a flying upper torso
>double chainsaw is a neat easter egg
Sabaoth feels like the next evolutionary step of Doomguy's friends that got zombified and use their familiar weapons against you

I "recreated" the layered warping effect from Quake 3: Arena in Quake 2 using two warping textures of different size and rotation and transparency on top of each other.
The lower is water and the upper is mist.
This is for the 25th anniversary UNIT.

Anybody know any vtubers that play doom wads

>>9184585
decino

Aw shit, back in Radiant again.

>>9184585
Combine_Kegan

>>9184638
I'm not even a vtuber you ding dong.
and I haven't played a Doom wad in awhile.

>>9184585
I've never seen a vtuber I could stomach watching. Bunch of attention whores using a cartoon puppet to make up for their lack of wits, looks, and/or skill.

>>9184641
haha, kegan just says this because he's shy, his avatar even blushes and shit, it's cute

>>9184653
and does lots of cute dances, and often has cat ears.

>>9184653
>>9184657
Kegan's looking pretty cute.

>>9183465
Conducive is the right word.

>>9181016
Is it normal to hate Revenants way more than Pain Elementals or Archviles?

>>9184585
Well there's one Ive seen in twitch called Kirie
Seems to be a small vtuber tho

>>9184789
I really hated them at first due to their insane damage variation and homing projectiles, but you learn how to fight them eventually.

>>9184697
Nya~!

>>9184582

>>9184808
I'll always remember this ad, because it's the first time I ever heard about Doom. I thought it was a game literally about ants.

>>9184789
Makes sense. They’re far more common than the elementals. You’ll manage though, just assume every thing they shoot will home.

Any good TCs for Duke 3D or Shadow Warrior?
For douk I've already played Alien Armageddon and Demon's Throne but not AMCTC on account that I want to play the full release, and for SW I don't think I've found one yet.

>>9184579
Nice touch

>>9184826
I’m not even aware of any devent Shadow Warrior maps let alone TCs.

>>9184808
EDF! EDF!
an EDF flavored wad would be cool, slaughtermap heavy though

>>9184830
When I finally tried it, my biggest takeaway from EDF was “giant enemies with reasonable health pools”. I was also reminded somewhat of Serious Sam. It was fun.

>>9184582

>>9184452
What's a node builder? :)
I just make maps and call it good.

>>9184867

>>9184582
What a huge load of bullshit. Soldier and sergeant on the same level, lost soul that high and under the spider mastermind, spectre lower than demon... this is completely nonsensical.
and I guess the spider mastermind should technically be on top

>>9184506
The only ones I recognize are the zombie’s because of how senselessly loud they are, and the ones that get used in D4T because they aren’t muddied and quiet anymore

>>9184895
i'm watching this webm as someone mentions 9/11 in a podcast wtf

>>9184895
i don't like how the texturing of the towers and buildings reminds me too much of doom2's map13

>>9184895
>kills 0/0
Nice way to ruin immersion.

>>9184917
Unintentionally intentional

>>9184895
What compels ""people"" to make something like this? Them being underage?

>>9184506
>>9184902
I can recall the screech those nests make when you use one, and the arachnotron plasma noise. That would be it for now. I don’t even play with the music so you’d think they’d stick out more.

>>9184945
Freedom

>>9183839
>Chopblock has also expressed interest in creating sprites for the Plasma Gun and BFG
Uh, a limited interest. Vaeros had this WIP of a magical staff for the Plasma, and I really wonder if he'll show and provide that or not. I can't seem to find the screenshot anywhere.

If I end up providing those weapons for AM, I was thinking maybe just using that one Lightning Bolt sprite from that one Quake mod for Heretic, and maybe retouching it some, that could work as the Plasma, along with possibly using that skull staff from Heretic to make into some manner of BFG.
This isn't a hard promise though, and I may have to focus on 94P. Ideally I will put out a playable Beta before October, even if it'll be missing some stuff.

I will probably provide some tweaks for existing weapons, some people complained the Rocket Launcher was too loud. Maybe I can tweak the Super Shotgun also, somehow.

>>9183016
Thank you.

I replayed Doom again since last time I downloaded the wads from rapidshare. After completing the og episodes, I am getting my ass kicked in Thy Flesh Consumed. Wiki says it is way more difficult than previous episodes and even on the easiest difficulty it keeps spawning the enemies. Should I play through it anyway or simply move on to Doom 2? I hadn't finish that one after I lost my interest getting lost in one of city levels.

>>9184950
Freedom was a mistake
Bring back absolute monarchies

>>9184992
No.

>>9184992
Get fucking raped you redcoat scum.

>>9184989
episode 4 was made a few months after doom 2 as an extra challenge and to add more content to doom 1. e4m1 is notoriously difficult and crowded and e4m2 was made by Romero between midnight and 6AM and even he doesn't know why he made it so difficult.
Every level after that is actually pretty lame though, until the cyberdemon boss battle in E4M6

>>9184989
E4M1 is just obscenely hard because it starves you of health pickups and shits a million barons at you with barely any rockets while shotgunners snipe what little you have. E4M2 and E4M6 are also difficult but at least give you supplies, but the rest of it should be easier and doable

>>9184989
Give Doom 2 a whirl and come back to E4 later.

There is some ultimate doom wad but with the enemies and the doom II super shotgun
Also a wad of the music of the first doom in doom II would not be bad

>>9185006
>E4M2 and E4M6 are also difficult but at least give you supplies

E4M4 is the worst for me, it doesn't nearly have half enough supplies unless you know the secrets so you can use the fist

>finally gotten a chance to try out Violent Rumble recently, shit was so cash
Is the VR-anon still around, tinkering with a "v1.1 revision" of his project after initial release?
I still think that the pickelhaübe Rambler needs a buff in some form of a ground-pound move, even if the quick&dirty way of implemmenting it would be just making a weaker clone of the Gug's earthquake attack - shaky cam effect included

>>9184945
Being edgy.

>The wait is over - DOOM & DOOM II updates featuring enhanced, as well as classic versions, are now available on GOG!
>If that's not enough, we're also permanently slicing the price of both DOOM II & III in half, so you can save more money! Oh and the whole series is currently up to 75% off.

>>9181017
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-voxel-project/addons/voxel-doom

Voxel Doom is out

Doom 1 = Doom 2 > Doom 4 > Doom 64 > Doom 5 > Doom 3

Quake 1 >>>>> Quake 4 >>>>> Quake 2

Serious Sam 4 > Serious Sam 1 = Serious Sam 3 >>> Serious Sam 2

Painkiller Black > Painkiller Redemption > Painkiller Overdose >>>>>>>>>> Painkiller Resurrection = Painkiller Recurring Evil (both genuinely pointless entries that don't even work properly)

Blood > Shadow Warrior > Ion Fury > Duke Nukem 3D >>> every other build game

Return To Castle Wolfenstein > Wolfenstein 2013 > Wolfenstein 3D >>> Wolfenstein 2009 >>>>> all that retarded faggotry that came after wolfenstein 2013 (discounting its expansion)

you may now reply to me

>>9185218
Shit Quake taste, but based Build FPS and Serious Sam taste

>>9185217
This is almost as adorable as Lego Quake.