/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
94 PROTONS OF /vr/
Deadline extended, see picture
https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
512 LINEDEFS OF /vr/
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/512linesvr

=== NEWS ===
[8-12] The guidelines for the Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1558056148795887618

[8-12] Quakespasm-Spiked has been updated
https://fte.triptohell.info/moodles/qss/

[8-11] Circadian Offset released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/circadian-offset-full-release/news/circadian-offset-full-release

[8-10] Various id games and their expansions are being merged into one install package on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/games/2280/announcements/detail/3370400926531461244

[8-8]Coppertone Summer Jam 2 for Quake released(Copper for Quake required)
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/coppertone-summer-jam-2.103/

[8-8]The Quake 2 25th anniversary collaborative UNIT is here and open for submissions!
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1556598386110906369

[8-6]Nostalgia a 32 map megawad was released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130681

[8-4]Giftmarcher releases a surprise Quake 2 map: The Drilling Station 161
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4171

[8-4]Lex Fridman interviews John Carmack for 5 hours
https://youtu.be/I845O57ZSy4

[8-4] Doom Wad Archive is shutting down :(
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/130650
https://archive.org/details/wadarchive Archive Backup

[8-3]2 new tools released for BUILD game Legend of the Seven Paladins
https://gitlab.com/build-engine/lotspe The Extracter
https://gitlab.com/build-engine/lotspp The Packer

[8-1] DoomerBoards released Emerald City, a 15 map episode
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2929

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hi

Finally, a good fucking OP

>>9174741
>maybe

>>9174739
weeb pedophile pseudo homosexual identified

>>9174746

>>9174749

>>9174741
>classic girl mostly big sprites

>>9174750
3DO Doom was supposed to feature FMV's
my morbid curiosity kinda wish we had that kek

>>9174748
Are you okay?

>>9174758
yes, but you're attracted to children and you read manga so i'm gonna go out on a limb and say you aren't

>>9174730
can we get a /vr/ map for Q2 Unit project?
i would love to see alkaline or /violent rumble/ assets into it

Hideous Destructor fucking rules

>>9174741
>when you realize you live in the bad end timeline

>>9174727
I just finished playing an hour of Blood 2. No doubt the first one is a better game, but I still just love the vibe of this one. The modern, slightly cyberpunk setting and overall chunkiness reminds me of Deus Ex, and I like the idea of the cult from the original surviving into modern times with good publicity. There's also a vein of humor running through the whole thing, almost a Postal 2 vibe at times. By most people's standards, it's not a good game, but I genuinely enjoy it a lot.

guys, i need your help. i am trying to find a man, a truly based man, but i have little to go on. i went on a boyscout camping trip around 2002-2003, it was either in NJ or PA, and some dude set up a bunch of computers with DOOM 2 multiplayer hooked up via LAN in a nearby gazebo (i guess running off a generator). it was one of my best memories. it was a jamboree or something because there were like a dozen troops there, mine was 62. any chance one of you guys was there or know who this guy was?

>>9174797
Weirdly enough, this sounds exactly like a guy named Jeffrey Dodson. We called him "Romie" for some reason. Guy died of some rare and aggressive bile duct cancer in 2015 or so.

>>9174741
>needs faggots
Hey, where's the nigger spam?

>>9174807
shit, can you tell me more? do you know for a fact he went to boyscout outings? ive been trying to figure out what this was about for years. i need to pay this guy tribute somehow. he put in all this work just to let some scouts play DOOM 2 in the fucking woods for no pay and i need to know who he was.

>>9174757
Reminds me this existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDJ1T794WZc

>>9174838
Same Energy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7Q0_DgXHG0

>>9174741
might play lot maps
/vr/ yeah mappers
fun

>>9174846
Those things look like they're Popstations.

>>9174780
You nailed why I love Blood 2 so much. It's a game that's just Fucked™ all around, with some of the worst vibes possible.

>>9174741
>faggot added
>space gay
>steam demon
>post horns

>>9174838
i'm french and i didn't know it was a thing. voice sounds like the official dubber for Bruce Willis

Could doomguy survive the eclipse of berserk?

>>9174909
Barehanded, no, unless he's 'zerking off.

>>9174909
doomguy doesn't need to survive

>>9174780
It's a shame that game had to be rushed out the window. The game would've gotten a much fonder reception had it been actually completed.

(im reposting cause id say this is a good topic to cover and i accidentally posted it in the last thread everyone left)
>>9173946
>even in this age of Fortnite & Minecraft.
actually id say games like minecraft normalizing older graphics as a good aesthetic helps DOOM alot in this case, your average millennial will judge DOOM for being old, but for zoomers, as long as its not retarded to play, they're mostly fine with older games/ styles, the stuff millennials would consider outdated.
this should help alot in attracting new-blood, especially from stuff like nu-DOOM (which has already happened to fairly a large extent)

>>9174909
Knowing how many slaughtermaps are out there, probably.

What are some good enemy mods? Especially to go with Halo: Doom Evolved since that mod feels a bit hollow with base enemies

>>9175024
babel is pretty great.

>>9174727
Any tips for playing Dark Forces. I had left off after playing 4 levels and have forgotten how to given I am playing original Dos version with keyboard controls.
Is there any source port of it? Does it carries the saves?

>>9175024
>>9175061
I just tested Babel Monsters with that mod and it's pretty good, but I'd recommend putting the fear slider to about 0.7 since if you don't the level of overkill that even basic weapons inflict can make enemies break too fast.
I kinda went in expecting to not like the Halo thing, but it's not bad, clearly fairly high-effort.

I'm playing Alfonzone for the first time finally. The music is really good.

>>9174727
That eye looks cute and funny.

>>9175279
Bad anon.

>>9175134
That game was pretty easy when I was a kid. My tip is to jump off high ledges and listen to your screams as you die, that always made me laugh.

>>9175279
do not lewd the eye

>>9175279

>>9175279
haha....:sob:

>>9175279
It's a nice image but stop with the pedo dogwhistles. Don't bring this shit to a Doom general.

Does Crispy Doom fix the save file issues with the original Doom/Doom II? And if so, does Chocolate too?

>>9174749
Someone found out that the company that made the demon suit in these pics still has the costume for rental. https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1550994066862653445?t=FoDp8A72uhx9DNTDKFnV0A&s=19

>>9175401
Finally we can create the fmvs ourselves.

>>9175134
>Is there any source port of it?
Yes.
https://theforceengine.github.io/
>>9175401
You could've paid better attention, anon.
>However the suit was made out of foam latex and has completely disintegrated at this point
https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1554598012776751109

>>9175435
>the suit was made out of foam latex and has completely disintegrated
fucking kek

>>9174761
>alkaline or /vr/ assets
No. The project clearly states it's supposed to be an id-style Stroggos map pack. It'll be using vanilla Quake 2 + mission pack assets.

guys, I don't know if I'm going insane but I remember the knights making a very distinctive metallic CLINK CLINK CLINK when you shot at them that I'm not hearing anymore, I tried quakespasm, vkquake and iron wail with the steam's id1 folder
I thought it was some n64 quirk but I emulated the rom with the same results, no metallic clink when shooting them
what the fuck is going on?, should I take my meds?

I don't know if this an HD bug or a Peppergrinder bug, but lmao.

>>9175467
No, you are right, that does not sound like how the game should run. Try system restore.

>>9175468
This happened when I started to charge a shot immediately after raising the gun from a sprint/crouch slide.
Stock HD weapons with remotely similar mechanics/animations (vulc spinning with no ammo, bfg recharging a battery) seem to just disable (visual) vertical bobbing altogether under the same conditions.

>>9175467
>>9175472
no anon, I want to hear that metallic clink
disregard my post, I suck vore cocks, it's a sound fx from the quake epsilon pack

>>9174707
All levels are in mega folder anon, have fun testing them

Any recommendation for melee focused gameplay wads or mods?
Basically along the lines of GMOTA or Demonsteel or that one difficulty mode for Hedon, but I also do not mind if there's something like that for Quake, Duke 3d or Shadow Warrior(can't really see it working for Blood).

>>9175523
That's pretty much your lot. You could also do a melee focused build with the Fighter or Ranger in Wrath of Kronos.
Really though that melee only mode in Hedon doesn't look too good, though I'm not fond with how combat is handled in the mod version, so my opinion is biased.

>>9175543
I enjoyed it but near the end it gets a bit slow. I'm also not a big fan of how the big fuck off 2h axe involves lots of camera movement because it would be incredibly satisfying otherwise.

>>9175560
My melee combat autism flares up severely to Rectal Ragnarok levels whenever I see ANY first person game or mod use camera motions for melee attacks. I hate that shit. There's better ways to show the power and weight of a melee attack without needing to do something as dumb as that.

>>9175564
To be fair that's an issue I have with Hedon for more than just the melee. One of the biggest gripes I have with that game is that it has a mostly satisfying shotgun to use but everything about it jerks the camera like someone's trying to snap your neck. It's also a big reason I'm not a big fan of Brutal Doom or any wad that constantly jerks the camera around like that.

>>9175567
Yeah, come of think of it I see a lot of shitty mods do that too.
The worse offenders I see of that is when your vision zooms in and out while you fire weapons, like what the fuck is that even doing to the character as you fire? Are their eyes bulging in and out of their fucking sockets? On top of this the weapon animations are usually blurred to shit so you can tell what the fuck is going on.
At this point now I'm just bitching about the new dumb punks in the mod scene bringing 3D animation practices into 2D first person games.

I need to chill out.

The more I play Doom II the more I like most of the maps. Downtown and The Chasm are the only really bad ones, and I also don't like The Pit or Bloodfalls. The rest? Range from excellent to good.

>>9175564
Funny enough, the inverse (making the attack do more damage based on your own deliberate camera movement) is satisfying as fuck.
I literally punch across my desk with my mouse in Hideous Destructor.

>>9175567
>jerks the camera like someone's trying to snap your neck.
Does turning this down help your problem?

>>9175024
Why would you play a halo mod when you could play Project MSX?

>>9175575
Alright you're right there. I enjoy swinging the camera around myself to land better punches.
Never really thought about that, honestly. It just feels natural there.

>>9175523
Play JPCPguy in Final Doomer.

>>9175573
Nooooo you are supposed to hate Doom 2 if you're based, you can't just go against the sheep mentality like that!!

>>9175564
>Schism's Quietus intensifies

>>9175597
Doom 2 is not bad. It's just the city maps that kinda suck a bit.
And Nirvana, maybe. Barrels is kinda questionable, but still kinda fun.

>>9175602
Is that the one where the player's head rears back as the weapon is raised and then dips down far as it's swung? Because that's the one that specifically pops into my mind when I bitch about this kinda stuff.

>>9175603
Barrels in HDest are something else.
Every single time I just yolo berserk to the exit

>>9175606
What's the matter, you don't enjoy framerate destroying explosions and fire effects while frag fills the air to the point where you can constantly see it flicker and nothing ever stays dead?
You don't enjoy dealing with probably like 20+ barrel mimics?

>>9175609
I, in fact, do not. It was co-op every time as well, so it was a nice showcase that sequence is extremely optional in HDest, and how you could leverage that.

holy based

>>9174757
this pic you posted is new to me
>doom with cutscenes
we'd almost have our own zelda cdi holy shit

>>9175612
The trainwreck that has been this jam continues to deliver.

>>9175603
>It's just the city maps that kinda suck a bit
Factory and Suburbs are good. Downtown sucks. Industrial Zone is kind of cool but also the only map where Doom's autoaiming really breaks and it's frustrating to get chaingunned from miles away and you can't do shit about it without finagling the fucking autoaim to actually hit shit that high up

>>9175605
Haha yes.

>>9175609
There's this map in EDay with an absolute shit ton of barrels in one section of the map. If they blow up, enemies will respawn endlessly on the level like Nightmare on steroids. I blew them up. Not doing that shit again.

>>9175609
I wish I had a computer strong enough to even attempt to load the map with HD.
Last time I tried, it straight hung up into a BSOD

>>9175623
Wow and I thought I was using withered hardware. What the fuck are you using, Anon?

i don't wanna hear it about barrels, man

>>9175621
I find a good way to deal with frag accumulation is to just carry a chainsaw and wreck corpses that drops ammo in some secluded room. Even better if its an arach as you can get a lot of powercells out of just one of those.

It may be time consuming, but safety's always best.

>>9175628
Looks like you're in the barrel today.

>>9175625
I probably shouldn't have said anything. Kinda embarrasingly old. It's a miracle it can even run GZD at all.

>>9175628
>a map with more than 200 monsters
>with HD

NOPE. No thank you. No sir, I don't like it.

>>9175640
It's probable that's just a respawn counter at this point. Barrels doesn't normally have the population of a small-scale slaughterwad.

>>9175642
Well, it also isn't usually MAP08.

>>9175639
Come on it can't be that bad. I'm curious now.

>>9175635
I do carry a chainsaw in my backpack in every loadout now. Near the end of that run of that wad I was gibbing every corpse after I looted them.

>>9175645
I won't say much but
1.7GHz 2core cpu
4gb RAM
Graphics card struggles to render half life 2 and derivative sourcemods. As in, I'm lucky to be above 25 FPS.

>>9175656
Wow dude, holy shit.
Living the true /vr/ life with a proper shitty machine, that's admirable in its own way.

>>9175656
May I ask why? Sure we meme about CRT monitors and Windows 98 on /vr/ but secretly all of us have the latest Windows 11 machines, curved monitors and RGB lighting

>>9175663
I don't. I'm using a withered old Windows 7 machine still, I'm the one who posted a screenshot of mediocre specs.
I do use two monitors though. I prop all this shit up on one of those big white folding tables, serves me well as a computer desk. Runs mostly everything I care about fine, though it chokes a little in Golden Souls 3.

>>9175658
>living the true life
nah.
Life is just shit and I'm spitefully staying afloat on a shoestring connection that has wiring older than half the board's population and an ancient museum piece of equipment barely held together by duck tape.
>>9175663
It used to be an XP machine until I was forced to update it a few years ago. Sadly, it's the best I have access to at the moment, due to life circumstances. I'm not here to say shit about my terribleness anyway why do you people even ask this shit.

>>9175671
> why do you people even ask this shit.
Morbid curiosity. Which is perfectly satisfied now, so I'm willing to move on.
You boys play any good WADs? I've been playing Overboard on and off the past week or so when I'm not so busy. Cryiak has a weird sense of humor and he seems to really enjoy putting pressure on the player.

>>9175643
It'll be Long Trek Back Home, that's got Barrels as Map08. The monster count has tripled form respawns though, it's usually 271 on UV.

>>9175680
>Long Trek Back Home
Ah, I should've guessed

>>9174727
>>9174730
94 Protons Of /vr/
For those interested, go for broke! From August 11th to September 12th

MegaUpload: https://mega.nz/folder/z9ZVEAJJ#t4IEL6VGFY7tBBMIEOKXUA
>Proton Pack 1.9.6 (now works in Woof)
>PROTDECO16 (patch for testing your levels in GzDoom)
>94SplatDefault, 94SplatNC-HUD
>A collection of MIDIs for mappers to use.
Please stake a claim on a MIDI you've settled on so that we don't get doubles, also, you are not restricted to the MIDIs in the folder, feel free to use one you sourced/made yourself.
If the assets update, I'll reply to this post stating so.

Slots:
>E1 Boss Level, x2 Paratamizers as a finale: Claimed (?)
>E2 Boss Level: Discuss
Are you interested in making an E2 boss level, do you have anything special in mind, or would you be ok with a modified Icon Of Sin battle?

>Optional Hunted style map: Unclaimed
We could have up to two of these if there's the interest for it. Feel free to be playful with the concept of an Arch-Vile labyrinth.

>Optional Dead Simple map: Finished
>Large city battle level akin to Odyssey Of Noises: Discuss
One suggestion for a larger city level was that we all take turns designing parts for it. How would we best go about this?

>Secret slaughter map, ala Go 2 It: Discuss
Multiple ideas has been suggested. One cool idea was to use an existing /vr/ map as a base and slaughterifying it, is anyone interested in this, and do they have further suggestions for a suitable candidate? Someone else suggested another approach, mind that we could have two secret slaughter maps if we wanted to.

Current Submissions: 16 Maps!

To Do:
>M_DOOM (something styled after Plutonium in the periodic table)
>ENDOOM
>Interpics (optionally one per episode)
>E2 Boss
>E3 Boss
>Chainsaw
>Fist
>Super Shotgun
>Plasma
>BFG9000
>Possibly rework the Death Exit effects somehow

Reply to this post with submissions or questions.

>>9175628
Will be waiting to watch your struggle in that map. Kinda constantly baffled how you keep roaming huge open maps like Condo and such after clearing them just to gather supplies, even with the lower enemy count of LTBH.
Nearly 800 enemies killed just under an hour seems brutal though, even with your loadout.

Wow ANOTHER doom map project. How exciting

>>9175703
>posting this in the Doom thread
Shitposting aside I really would like to see more Quake projects to follow up on VR.

>>9175715
I tried to get something going a while ago but most posters itt are just not talented enough to make maps for a fully 3D game

>>9175723
I was kind of thinking of starting a Half-Life project but I'm not leadership material at all and I have no right asking people to make map when I can't even finish my own

>>9174741
>>9174815
Was manipulated. Even though all the posts were on topic, the jannies deleted literally everything containing the word. Modern 4chan is no fun allowed zone reddit-lite mode.

>>9175739
The problem isn't "modern 4chan", it's Doomworld snowflakes who have effectively colonized this thread and their mass reporting.

>>9175739
Spam posts suck. Word clouds are best when it happens naturally. Any idiot can spam words and affect the cloud, forcing shit like that is fucking gay.

>>9175740
Never was a user of that site. What kind of people are we talking about here?
>>9175741
It wasn't spam though. The posts were on topic. Take the stick out of your ass.

>>9175747
There was one that was just nigger like 40 times and then "btw don't crouch in Hexen tee hee"
That post was atrocious, if you defend that you're beyond saving.

>>9175747
>What kind of people are we talking about here?
Take a wild guess

>>9175747
>it wasn't spam
own up to your bullshit or don't bother, nigger

>>9175747
It was on topic only in the technical sense. It was still spam and an attempt at seeding the cloud. Artificial.

>>9175751
Don't remember it but if the poster was providing a tip and threw in a few nigs then I don't see a problem.
>>9175752
Fucking NOTHING has been spared from this Maoist cultural revolution shit, even Doom jesus

>>9175747
>it wasn't spam

>>9175758
You're probably the special boy that posted it then, and you're just acting like a coy little slut to derail the thread with your bullshit.

>>9175759
That's art

>>9175747
It was totally spam, forcing the word cloud kills the fun of it.

>>9174727
I want to give Evil Eye-Chan a kiss.

>>9175779
Mate, having a big nig for one stupid word cloud is just a few laughs. Lighten up. You mutants suck the life out of everything.

>>9174908
If you're one of the Frenchies I'm thinking of, are you back from your vacation?

Return to Castle Wolfenstein worth a go?

I'm trying to find an .apk for an old android source port of it some company made.

>>9175798
Yes, it's the best Wolfenstein game IMO.

>>9175798
RTCW is a classic. Very well made game that still holds up today. By the way do any of you niggers know if Enemy Territory is still running in some way? I remember having a blast on that game back in the day.

>>9175758
Unless you proactively seek out and physically remove leftoids and other useful idiots from your midst they will take over a space, doesn't matter what it is, they will take it over, especially if its enjoy by people they don't like.

>>9174686
>>9175689
I did not know you added those details, that's pretty cool. Slotin was a wild motherfucker, came into the lab every day wearing cowboy boots. For colormaps, if you provide the ones you want to use in the .wad, sure. I remember the blue flash, so you evidently did.
I'll just include them for when I assemble it into a .wad

>>9175812
Sadly pic related has been true of the retro fps community for a while now

>>9175812
Yeah, it sucks because inclusivity is usually a positive thing in general but these people are fucked in the head. They destroy everything they touch from the inside. I just checked out the Doomworld forums and look what I found almost immediately. These people have just appeared from nowhere in the past 10 years and now fucking run almost every space you can think of. Fucking World Economic Forum transhumanist eugenicist cunts. Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you.

>>9175805
Wolf ET got relaunched on Steam recently, free. They haven't put ET:QW back up though, even though the current QC season is QW-themed.

>>9175793
If you're thinking of Colonel Parmesan, I'm in close contact with him and there's been no signs of life from him in over a month. If you're thinking of someone else then I suck cocks and you can disregard this post.

>>9175837
there are quake wars servers right now

Anyone know any Doom chat rooms (IRC, Matrix, etc.) or forums that haven't been colonized by stooges of the World Economic Forum?

>>9175842
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how MS didn't put ET:QW back on the Steam store like they did with Wolf: ET.

Why are my ON TOPIC posts without ANY discrimination or anything being deleted?

>>9174909
most of those creatures can die by physical weaponry but if i'm not wrong, it also depends in the state of the user or something that i'm getting wrong
wasn't there a berserk mod too?

>>9175578
Give me some good map sets for it then

>>9175924
spoonfeeding.wad is right up your alley.

So after all these years, what is honestly so bad about Brutal Doom
besides it’s creator and annoying fanbase.

>>9175989
a bunch of weird glitches and questionable gameplay design/balance decisions that were better explained back in 2018 or so when anons here posted webms, screenshots and explenations over things that most people would overlook

>what is honestly so bad about Brutal Doom
>besides it’s creator and annoying fanbase.
Besides the bloat that’s it. People are fine to play it though I personally think it’s outdated and controls awkwardly on occasion.

>>9174885
I want full rotation sprites of Basilissa so bad

>>9175373
Yes and yes. I think there's a toggle in the compat settings in case you're a purist.

>>9176006
Damn, I wonder if anybody has a link that that because Id love to see a breakdown.

I probably know the answer but I have to ask, are any of the Painkiller games after Black worth playing?

Can't believe logfag is still on it https://youtu.be/ktYAhh73hhI

>>9176021
Go yell at Term to update HND with them, because he has them. I think. But don't actually do that.

>watch latest decino video
>that secret exit
lmfao

>>9175989
Nothing really that makes it better or worse than most of the stuff out there, just the popularity and stuff that came with it.

The lasting effect it had on the community is one of causing a lot of mod developers to become incredibly bitter about it being popular despite what they see as a lack of skill in the developer.

It's kind of sad since it got a lot of people into the community who wouldn't be in it otherwise but that's what it's effect really has been.

>>9176175
Well it got me into doom mods. I have a big fondness for it.


I dont understand the bitterness or sadness. I will play good shit from trannies and from him, their coping politics can go fuck themselves.

>>9175875
Well, the Activision Blizzard deal is not finished yet. So you would have to wait for anything like that.

>>9176194
>I dont understand the bitterness
Jealousy, I've seen day long rants by people like the Stattrack developer on how their mod is much better than BD and deserves more attention.

Meanwhile there are people quietly doing neat stuff like Dakka without ever engaging in that shit.
>or sadness
It just sucks to see the community so fractured and negative about shit when it used to be a lot better than that,

>minor shit like different sprites on the different side of the window
This really, REALLY triggers my autism.

>>9176282

>>9176227
Or just other authors getting really tired of "your mod breaks x in Brutal Doom" reports constantly because Mark decided to flag toilets as monsters or some other stupid bullshit. A lot of times they don't leave it at just a report either, they'll often act like you need to rewrite things to accommodate it, and thats the thing that tends to piss off other authors the most imo.

>>9176194
>I dont understand the bitterness or sadness
For a while every wad that came out was pestered by ESL kids begging for Brutal Doom support in the comments, that's the reason.

hffm2 should have a midi version of "it's okay to be gay" song
>>9176127
is that a red recolor of jenny wakeman?

>>9175463
rogue and xatrix has some unique assets
Strogg palace assets is really damn good as a temple tileset

>>9175435
>https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1554598012776751109

Ah, disappointing, but not surprising.

>>9175663
im not on windows 11 (thanks valve), though i do have a softspot for my 144hz monitor, makes DOOM and quake so smooth.

>>9176293
That's not exactly limited to BD though, I got that shit a lot with some of my maps because I coincidentally used the same sprite name for a custom decoration as some boss from LCA.

It's part of a bigger issue of expectations of shit to keep working forever, regardless of what version engine or mod it's being run it, and that somebody else needs to fix it for them.

>>9174727
Does it have a waifu version of those evil burning floating triangle things?

>>9175612
Furfagweather deserves all shitty stuff in life along with the mapping cierclejerk that sucks his axe wound.

A friendly reminder to newfags, this asshole is the sole reason of why Q1 community is shit these days, he even went on to sabotage map ratings to put his as the best ones, he even tried to nuke quaddicted out of spite using one of his buddies to use political baits and even sabotaged ter shibboleth's rating because ter shib was better than the shitty map he did with vanilla assets since is the only shit he uses against the gimmics and variety tershib had, that also includes nyarlathotep and altar of storms.

Spirit is the only sane man of now at quake 1 community, dumptruck_ds gave ears and voice to fairweather's gang and he was ousted from Quake mapping discord mod and ownership.


>>9176213
give it til december, there are some silent massive layoffs happening atm there.

>>9175628
Dafuq is this? Barrels on crack part 2?

Thoughts about Mancubus?

>>9176372
They're one of my favorite monsters.

>>9176372
interesting enemy, with a role that if often overlooked
i do like how modern doom gave him a flamethrower attack and the cybermanc
both the cybermanc and carcass look like they offer unique enough abilities that could suit doom or something

>>9176372
They're great. The only thing I dislike is the "caution" lines on the 64 mancubus.
I didn't realize the original had stripes, I thought they were just fat folds.

>>9176372
fat fuck

>>9176381
The Carcass fills a similar role to the Pain Elemental. It's an enemy that makes you think twice about shooting rockets.

>>9176372
underrated enemy

>>9176372
I replayed Valiant last week and having to gib a half dozen of these lardasses in every other fight burned me out on manc heavy maps for a while. They're annoying ammo sinks and too tempting to use as path blocking obstacles. They can also really screw with rocket ammo economy when the RNG isn't on your side. But they're good when used in moderation, Castle Siege from Alien Vendetta comes to mind for that.

>>9175614
sad.
>>9175401
never saw this pic of it. saved
>>9175435
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>9175583
gayest fist animation ever
fist deep in the dead

>>9175723
>but most posters itt are just not talented enough to make maps for a fully 3D game
Hard disagree here. Making 3D levels does not take more talent than making 2D levels, just another set of skills. And there was at least one anon who consciously chose to make maps for Doom because he wanted no room-over-room.
I personally have contributed to both 2D and 3D projects and I find making levels in 3D vastly easier than making levels in 2D.
And everyone and their grandma knows how to operate UDB whereas having to learn a new mapping tool for a new project already takes time and then you won't be as proficient as you are with your 2D tool you already know inside out.
And if it weren't for Trenchbroom, I would have never touched any 3D mapping in the first place because fuck Gtk Radiant, I could never get into it.

However, a problem I do indeed see already within Doom mappeing here is that lots of people don't seem to like getting out of their Boom comfort zone.

>>9176305
might as well be. Think it's Spinel from Steven Universe though.

>>9176372
i like the sound they make when they die

>>9175798
http://www.beloko.com/?page=game_rtcw
Beloko version? It used to be free (I didn't really check the site). I'm sure if you search beloko rtcw or whatever you'll get it.

>>9176461
HUMP YO MOM

>>9176475
kek i expect no less from demonic grunts

>>9175723
I want to try hosting a /vr/ classic serious sam mapping project sometime.
But that requires others learning SED which has very unique engine quirks and not many good tutorials at the moment.

>>9176487
I wouldn't want to see the thing that gave birth to a Mancubus.

It'd probably be a Momcubus with a huge gaping vagina the size of a hallway.

>>9176475
Diabolical taste, based fatso

>>9176505
Not born. SHIT into existence.

>>9176509
i know which thread it comes from. very nice panties...

>>9176517
I don't. Care to help a brother out?

>>9176525
this is a blue board SIR

>>9176510
Dogma Doom mod when?

>>9176505
CLOACA INFERNIS

>>9176517
>t.mancubus

what happened to dredd doom anon?

I want a Cyber-Mancubus for Christmas
Only a Cyber-Mancubus will do
Don’t want an Imp, no dinky Pinky boys
I want a Cyber Mancubus to play with and enjoy

I want a Cyber Mancubus for Christmas
Don’t think the UAC will mind, do you?
Won’t have go to Hell
Or kill their personnel
Just drop him at the front door and leave him where he fell

I can see me on a Martian morning
Creeping down the stairs
Oh what fear and what horror
When I turn round the corner
And find a big fat demon standing there

I want a Cyber Mancubus for Christmas
Only a Cyber Mancubus will do
No Arch-viles
Or plain old Mancubuseses
I only like
Cyber-Mancubuseses
And Cyber-Mancubuses like me too!

Dad says that I
Will be kill by demons
But teacher says that Hell is but a mere superstition

There’s lots of room for him on the surface of Mars
He’ll play with me, and stay with me, and help me find key cards

I can see me on a Martian morning
Creeping down the stairs
Oh what fear and what horror
When I turn round the corner
And find a big fat demon standing there

I want a Cyber Mancubus for Christmas
Only a Cyber Mancubus will do
No Arch-viles
Or plain old Mancubuseses
I only like
Cyber-Mancubuseses
And Cyber-Mancubuses like me too!

>>9176539
why yes i have majestic mantitties
>>9176542
he cute but cyber mancubus is not retro anon

>>9176541
He made maps for both 512 linedefs and 400 minutes, still around

>>9176372
good monster and in large spaces can be alot more interesting than barons or hell-knights.

>>9175467
having the same issue with the axe on vkquake. maybe my bootleg pak files are the culprit, but my axe doesnt make any fucking noise!!

>>9175467
>>9176597
interesting

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=532669

well here's a small lead on the retro explosions, unfortunately some have been ruined with watermarks, I have searched literally everywhere but cannot find these CDs

>>9176282
>>9176287
Yeah part 1 is a lot less polished than part 2
I think they'll go back and polish it up, they released the sterile maps for part 2 but not part 1 yet

>>9176358
It's unfortunate that he's decided to take this path of vengeance and actively seeks to segregate the communities. It only damages the game and it's longevity. By brewing these feelings of bitterness and hostility it also strips possible new and interesting mapper collaborations from seeing the light of day by pitting people against each other. I don't know why he chooses to do this, but if anything can be for certain: it hurts.

I’ve played most of the official wads and am thinking of playing of No end in sight but I’m tired of hard wads, is it a hard one? To illustrate, Syringe and Doom Zero were hard but playable for me so I’m hoping No end is not that intense

>>9176358
>>9176683
>vomits
shame

>>9176541
Still here, fucked around a bit with HD mods to prepare for continuing on Judge Doom.
Next up is probably a bit under-the-hood stuff like rework of enemy behavior and optimizations to how the judge shout works.

>>9176686
It's hardest Doom wad that has been made. Especially the fourth episode. But it's still very good. Fun and addicting. You will want to continue punishing yourself till you beat the all maps.

Is there some mod that replaces Korax from Heretic with George Floyd

I'm tired of pretending Annihilation wasn't a good Doom movie.

>>9176683
this sucks because the appeal of older fps might as well be how they almost felt public domain to most fans
like carmack gave the "car keys" and people could do anything with the games
same reason why i think there could be other award cerimonies for mods than the cacowards, to make the "community" feel less closed
>>9175989
>>9176006
>>9176175
the thing with brutal doom is that its popularity lead to people making shit up, so romero even had to correct someone over a statement he said about the mod
but for all the kotaku writers and younger fans hyping it up, its detractors never really did a good job explaining the mod's real problems
brutal doom is like if yandere sim never had a "lolcow status" because it'd be as if the people shitting on it did a terrible job, most people would assume the subject in question isn't that bad

>>9176710
Yiked. Not sure if you’re joking but if it’s true, not gonna play it. I hate leaving stuff unfinished so thanks for the info

>>9176730
I've seen plenty of good arguments for why people legitimately have issues with BD as a mod itself, especially when discussing the absurd amount of bloat. Even the campaign was less bloated and more like actual Doom back when it was HoESP than that absolute mess EDay became. There's also other issues like coding practices and other under the hood nightmares that only modders can really appreciate how backwards they are, but concepts like bloat and overall direction are pretty surface level stuff to understand.

>>9176731
kek

>>9176741
*yikes

>>9176731
It was wholly unremarkable. Not even "so bad it's good"

>>9176730
>its popularity lead to people making shit up, so romero even had to correct someone over a statement he said about the mod
It persistently still comes up on a bunch of modding servers that the BD dev is somehow at fault for the original sprites infamously based on real corpses.

Shit was a badly informed tumblr post like six or seven years ago that made those claims and it'll never die.

>>9176730
>same reason why i think there could be other award cerimonies for mods than the cacowards, to make the "community" feel less closed
They tried to do the ZDoom awards because of Graf throwing a shitfit about Lilith.pk3 getting a Cacoward, so whatever tosse him and his clique off could get an award.

Everybody just took the piss out of them instead of taking them seriously.

>>9175609
I play with frag turned off because any dead hitscanner or dead marine prop in the entire level being able to stand right back up and land a perfect headshot squarely in my helmet visor within the span of half a second is not piss that I want in my cup of tea
and yes, I have seen MORE than enough fully gibbed corpses come to life and be instantly ready for action

>>9176821
Wait, you can turn that shit off? How?

QUAKE MAPPERS INTERESTED IN A PROJECT PLEASE SUBMIT FOR POLLING: https://strawpoll.com/polls/40Zmdvbzoga

The MALICE project would likely have similar modifiers to Violent Rumble and potentially some optional CSQC (magazine ammo count, a couple HUD variants, etc.). A new start map would be required, and some gameplay additions could be made from the decompiled progs (i.e. skill 3 being actual Nightmare and not some weird insta-kill mode). I'd personally like to do a small episode of continuous maps for this one, but I'm not sure how doable that is in 3 months, and I'd leave that up to you guys anyway. No room for an extended deadline... would kinda miss the point.

Violent Rumble 2 would be... whatever you want to make of it, really. I've been painfully slowly working on progs stuff and expanding the secret level. If you made a map for the first release with a rune, you can surrender it to another mapper or transfer it to a new map of your own if you wish. I've got some ideas for new powerups and modifiers that might be fun.
Also, I've had the idea of using the bedroom in the secret level as a hub for some thematic mini-maps accessible via some of the posters on the wall - either existing ones or whatever is requested. These maps would allow the player unlock the DOE runes or other bonuses for the final fight, which will be harder otherwise. The Rekkr poster is already reserved.

For whichever is picked I'll run a survey on what direction you guys want to take things.
And sorry about just kinda fucking off a few months ago when I said I would announce something soon. Real life has been real gay.

>playing shadow warrior
>gib a female ninja
>OH, YOU LITTLE TINY DICK
what did lo wang mean by this?

>>9176771
>>9176775
The action was good, the story based on a demon slaying game was pretty decent and the references and demon designs were amazing.

>>9176634
What were the names of the CDs? I'll help look.

>>9176007
7 rockets...

>>9176007
its a fine mod, but there are better ones nowadays.
though i play mostly BOOM in DSDA anyways.

It's time to conclude second episode and for this I'm going to try something different, open and labyrintine, sort of.

>>9174780
this guy is fixing up the whole game, kind of impressive what hes shown so far

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFJ7iANkMes

>>9176821
It's not bad when its a marine or chaingunguy, you at least can get into cover and save yourself if they shoot at you immediatly with 4.26.
The problem comes when its a marine rockettango or ZMGL marine rezzing behind you from outside hearing range and gibbing you instantly.

>>9176372
Every time his projectiles fails to collide properly with a wall and then passes through to hit me in the face I fucking mald.

>>9176916
at first I thought they were called "Visual Effects Headquarters" but seem to be often called "Visual Concept Entertainment" and the "Pyromania!" CDs are in the following image taken from their old site in the wayback machine, check the previous thread for more context

>>9176872
Ugly as Sin has a Frag slider.

>>9176873
>poll is giving a server error
errr... I guess just reply with whether you'd prefer to do a MALICE 25th anniversary project or Violent Rumble 2.

I need more Shelly from Ion Fury in my life. Thankfully apparently soonish there'll be more info on Aftershock (at Gamescom?)

Also, is there any way to make Soldier of Fortune 2 more alt+tab friendly? Apparently it's just one of those games that doesn't work well with alt tabbing.

>>9176994
There's a frag slider option in stock HD as well.

>>9177016
I don't think that one disables existing frag spawns, it's just for adding extra sparks.

>>9177015
>Also, is there any way to make Soldier of Fortune 2 more alt+tab friendly? Apparently it's just one of those games that doesn't work well with alt tabbing.
Probably using something like dxwnd or whatever it's called to force it into a window.

CUNT!

>>9177059
context?

>>9177053
Wow, actual helpful reply. Thanks!

>>9177015
I wish they tried a 3d game with the franchise, like they showcased and redesign her completely and throw that fucking useless villain into the trash and get something better.

>>9177059
Are you ever going to release this mod? You've been cockteasing it for like 4 years. Did I miss a link or something?

>>9174727
> proton project
Um what's up with texture being invisible or chess boardy?

>>9177079
Use Plutonia as your IWAD and load the assets (PROTONPACK) before the maps, it's not compiled yet.

>>9177068
>level starves you for health and ammo
>spot a secret path down in a pit
>go down it
>one (1) lone Health Bonus
>take it, because every scrap helps
>turn around
>there's now a Revenant behind you (silent teleport)

Devilish and hilarious.

>>9177078
You mean Immoral Conduct? That's not what's on screen there. That project has seen somewhat limited development since 2048 Units Of /vr/. I do intend on finishing it, but I have some obligations to take care of first.
Once I'm done with 94 Protons, as well as my obligations to Ad Mortem and Temporal Tantrum, I'll probably put mapping on the backburner for a while to get back to that.

>>9176372
more like manhugebutt

Just a heads-up, I found out right now that Babel doesn't work with doom_complete.pk3 from wadsmoosh on newer versions of GZDoom (4.7+ at the very least). It's because the IWAD filter doesn't engage properly, so I'm trying to figure out if I can remedy it. In the meantime, if you really want to use it with doom_complete.pk3, try using an older version of GZDoom (4.4 seems to work fine). It will, however, allow you to use the SSG in Doom 1 levels, no way around that yet.

Putting "box" in "skybox"

>>9175573
I have always liked doom 2 and was suprised 15 years ago when i first hear that everyone hates it.

Even so Sandy still makes some questionable design choices in doom 2 and there is a giant arrow pointing at what im talking about.

>>9176358
>give it til december, there are some silent massive layoffs happening atm there.
Oh yeah, it will go faster than expected. For sure. But who knows how long it would take to get more older games on Steam & Game Pass.
>dumptruck_ds
He actually threw in a few messages as people in Quake's Mapping Discord server were speaking out about Spirit's "toxic" behavior for something along those lines.
>A friendly reminder to newfags
Yikes. If I get myself or my friends to mod Quake or DOOM (any older game, for that matter), I would just point towards Itch and/or share the shit here.
>>9176434
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's always the best of us.
>>9176683
>pic
This and not allowing stuff from other Quake games is just pure cringe.
>>9177002
>>9176873
I would suggest going for MALICE first. It's unlikely that anyone else would do anything besides a single map for it, so anons should take matter into their own hands.
>>9177015
>Thankfully apparently soonish there'll be more info on Aftershock
We'll get some gameplay, at the very least. By the way.Tempest Rising (their new C&C-esque RTS) is in the same universe and takes place over 100 years before Ion Fury.
>>9177072
>I wish they tried a 3d game with the franchise
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see an FPS inspired by Renegate. Even though their new FPS should be inspired by some 2001 stuff.

>a bootleg C&C game

Wtf is wrong is 3d realms?

>>9176873
Zerstorer is also turning 25, you know.
anyway, voted VR2, but I suggest just doing a separate release, i.e. all-new maps without overlapping with VR1. but carrying over the progs obviously.
Malice is fine too though, especially if we're changing the progs (specifically the 5x health disparity between skill 0 and 2).

>>9177127
Okay actually this was pretty simple. I'll be updating the link I posted a few threads ago with a fix for it. Still get the SSG in doom 1 in doom_complete if you idfa, but there's no simple way to fix that without potentially breaking compat for custom maps with their own EXMX names that want the SSG. I'm also working on a few touchups to things I noticed, and maybe one or two balance changes (such as making it so that if you shoot a demon when it's mid-bite you can always stun it). We'll see.
God help me I might finally make the archvile's code less horrible

>>9176882
You don't have to have a dick to be a dick.

Man thanks to whoever recommended me ad mortem. Only beat 7 levels but fuck, seventh just took me right under an hour.

I think people should stop using pain elementals
ever

>>9177280
Enjoy, we're making more levels for it for Halloween.

>>9177293
Gotcha. *manually places 200 lost souls in a teleport closet*

>>9177296
You think I didn't immediately turn on the Lost Soul limit when I learned it was a thing?

>>9177293
lol
lmao

>>9177297
Yep

>>9177304
I think you're a bitch.

>>9176372
Pain sound is Elmer Fudd saying "Quiet" slowed down

>>9177178
>I would suggest going for MALICE first. It's unlikely that anyone else would do anything besides a single map for it, so anons should take matter into their own hands.
Yeah, I figured between the original developers moving onto weird gimmick and mobile games and the disinterest in anything not largely vanilla from the Quake mapping 'community' that not much would happen for its 25th anniversary. Even if VR2 wins I'll probably still make a MALICE map of my own.

>>9177217
>Zerstorer is also turning 25, you know.
I actually had no idea. I'm not sure there would be a huge interest in a Zerstorer project (anyone can reply and correct me on that) but I'd certainly be willing to port elements of Zerstorer to VR2.
>VR2, but I suggest just doing a separate release, i.e. all-new maps without overlapping with VR1
I personally don't care either either way, but I'll put it on the survey if VR2 wins. I guess that would give me a good excuse to make a new start map that doesn't take a million years to compile...
>Malice is fine too though, especially if we're changing the progs (specifically the 5x health disparity between skill 0 and 2).
I haven't looked *too* deep into MALICE's progs (in part because the decompiled QC files are a bit of a mess) but it will probably be easy enough to make a modifier that replaces the harsh health ramp up with something else. I could also just implement skill 3 and spread the health disparity across to it.

>>9177293
t. seething cacodemon

>>9177352
Oh, it's on now, bitch!

>>9176372
Super based.

>>9176979
This reminds me a lot of a mod project of turning Postal 3 into a proper Postal game. I wonder if new areas would be added in the mod to make the game flow overall better.

>>9176372
literally me

Is there RTCW files in the vr megas? I cant find it

>>9177341
the "reconstructed" sources, right? it lives in skills.qc

>>9177354
>tiny girl arms
>swole
lmao fat red retard

>>9176127

>>9177304
That limit doesn't reduce the amount of manually placed down Lost Souls. It only prevents Pain Elementals from creating more.

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME, BITCHES! By means involving time travel and two pounds of cocaine, we've managed to acquire the 94 PROTONS OF /vr/ FINAL RELEASE! We'll be playing Chopblock & company's magnum opus in our most anticipated SNS to date!
Tonight's password is "neverever" so open up Doomseeker and let's get ready to roll through /vr/'s finest!
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666
51.161.34.159:10666

Detailing the Quake 2 25th anniversary map called Technical Base when I am not fighting the lawyer. I hate being in another legal battle that has dragged out for months. Last time was in 2014 and lasted over a year and still I lost. I don't want to fight the law for the sole purpose of being allowed to exist, I just want to work and map in peace.

>>9177389
Also I think you can use other methods to spawn them, I once had something that spawned more from lost souls infighting.

>>9176873
I voted vr2

>>9177394
These look utterly gorgeous but I can't help but ask what kind of legal trouble you've gotten yourself into?

>>9177415
he wants to tell you a sob story

>>9177015
try borderless gaming

>>9177394
uh-oh, I see a lightmap fuckup under one tile. better start over.

>>9177393
Off to a great start.

>>9176989
boom blaauuugh pew pew pew BOOM

>>9175689
>>9174727
Peaceful Rest Valley. It's bricky and holds you by the balls for health and ammo, I found myself Tysoning quite a bit to conserve ammo, even before I got the Berserk pack, just because I was so low on ammo and so worried I wouldn't have enough for a really serious encounter if I didn't (and it felt pretty thrilling to punch out an Arch-Vile or two). I like the traps and ambushes, they're pretty mean, and I especially like the setup with the oldschool Plutonia teleporter pad.

It looks overall ok, though almost kind of barren for the wide and high ceiling corridors with little in terms of features. In a way this is a good look because it makes these large hallways feel lonely and unhomely, though at times this does end up making things look slightly bland.
I wouldn't say this is something which is in dire need of changing, but I would say that the level could benefit from adding some detail in some locations, just here and there (stuff like ceiling support beams, or maybe some indents up in a wall to place marble faces on, but you could do whatever you wanted which you think would work).

I think the things which would need changing is with the doors, frequently a lack of door tracks and clashing upper flats. Pic related for examples, simple changes.
Death Exit is improperly set up, see PROTTEST.wad in Mega for how to replicate. Also there ought to be a hidden normal exit somewhere in the level if a Death Exit is used, perhaps you could hide it in the rocket room, and it would need to be opened up from somewhere late in the level.

The one thing which I think is just odd is the Pinkies in the pit around the exit area, because you can't get there without being sent flying by that Arch-Vile, and there isn't anything down there to get. In one way this could be used for a missable secret, but currently it's just kills which are awkward and missable.
Some rock props on the cliffs around here could look nice.

>>9176683
>Your favorite game is dying
>Submissions are on the decline
>Your solution is to fracture the community further
Why the fuck is he like this? One of the good things about being in a niche or small fandom is that people generally care more about keeping the game alive than their petty squabbles so usually you won't have big meltdowns. But this is just dumb.

>>9177453
>>Submissions are on the decline
are there really?, I can't keep up
and I dropped doom entirely, it's fucking impossible to track every single shit it's released

>>9177393
I don't know what in the fuck you boys did with this but after dying I couldn't respawn, I got a connection interrupted, kicked from the game, and then when I bring up the menu to quit the game, none of my inputs respond. Which forces me to use CTRL+ALT+DEL and forcibly close the game. I'm going to chalk this up to the host having severe brain problems.

Discuss

>>9177472
>imps
>meh design
rest is understandable

>>9177472
They're all kino, at least visually

>>9177463
By this point last year we had Blue Monday jam, Alkaline, Unused jam and some pretty major releases like Torrent of Impurities, The Punishment Due and Imhotep's Legacy.
This year it's been January Jump Jam 2, the relatively underwhelming Koohoo jam and now this Copper jam which has quite a few stinkers. I play almost everything new for Quake and this year has felt pretty slow across the board.

>>9177472
Where's Romero's head?

>>9177472
are there nazis in doom eternal?

>>9177485
You'd have heard it a lot more in the shitty media hype if they were.

>>9177480
>I play almost everything new for Quake and this year has felt pretty slow across the board
maybe they should stop trying to make the next quake with every single map
I do the same thing

>>9177472
Wrong.

>>9177472
>Archvile
>ok
Are you fucking serious?

>>9176446
>However, a problem I do indeed see already within Doom mappeing here is that lots of people don't seem to like getting out of their Boom comfort zone.
I don't see anything wrong with people sticking to what they like especially since they're all doing it for free and for their own enjoyment.

>>9177472
>>9177478
Actually no I have one more gripe.
The Arch-vile needs to be a top tier/kino one because they immediately stick out when they appear in a group of enemies and are terrifying design-wise.

>>9177492
hes literally just a yellow corpse you faggit retard

>>9177487
blunder of the millennium

>>9176683
>I don't know why he chooses to do this
>>9177453
>Why the fuck is he like this?

idk if you guys are naive or what, but I see nothing surprising.
social climbing, cancelling community leads, leading projects without putting in effort (see last HW jam), siphoning users (first from func, now from quaddicted) - all looks like typical goonery to me. even if not intentional, the whole process is extremely typical and proven to work.

>>9177489
>maybe they should stop trying to make the next quake with every single map
You should only do this if you're actually competent enough to pull it off. Some mappers don't know their limits though and they think they're hot shit when in fact they're just shit

>>9177501
You can say something like this for every one of your "kino" designs, btw using tiermaker outs you as a faggot yourself.
>it's literally just a brain with legs
>it's literally just a giant red ball
>it's literally a skeleton with armor
Simplicity is not bad, in fact it's what makes some of the best designs. And the archvile is helped greatly by the spritework

>>9177492
to be fair, the face tubes aren't really seen through the main sprites

>>9177501
cacodemon is just a tomato
revenant is just a skeleton
imp is just a nigger

>>9177472
spectres should be lower than pinkies because in a perfect world without things like memory limitations the sneaky enemy would have been more unique

>>9177472
>a literal recolor is a great design
>archvile below that
shit list plain and simple

>>9177482
Hopefully on his shoulders, but in reality it's most likely up his ass.

>>9177393
keeps exceeding 2048 lost packets

>>9177528
>in reality it's most likely up his ass
For having such a striking and memorable image, the guy's very dull in interviews.

>>9177393
It's crashing too much.

>>9177472
id lower the hell-knight and raise the archvile and pinkie.

>>9177393
Can you stop using aimbots? You're making it really obvious.

>>9177178
Fagweather and his friends are responsible for the "le quake 2 and 3 bad" which prior to planetquake's death, NO ONE ever thought of that, even baker's forum held Q2 and and hexen 2 in high regards to the point of modding stuff to early Q2Evolved stuff or heretic 2 own QRP.
Plus, he and his friends keeps shitting the Q2 or Q3A threads at /v/ out of pure spite.

>>9177341
has malice and ravages of the apocalypse source code ever released?

>>9177569
>aimbots
I don't even use a crosshair.

>>9177585
>prior to planetquake's death, NO ONE ever thought of that
I hate that self-aggrandizing furryman as much as the next guy but you can't be serious. Quake 2 died 1 year after its release and Quake 3 was not a proper substitute for Quake 1 because it didn't have single player content. Both games were disliked for different reasons, Q2 a lot more than Q3 obviously

>>9177585
nah Q2 sucks. maybe one day somebody will make it bearable by fixing 90% of weapon and enemy animations, but no such luck so far.

>>9177585
Anon, Quake 2 was so irreparably bad that Unreal was able to dethrone idTech and idTech was never taken seriously ever again

This Halo mod plus babel monsters is way more fun than it has any right to be.

>>9177619
I think Q3 and UE1 had about the same number of third party games actually. it was from Doom 3 onward that idtech had fallen out of use.

>>9177606
isn't quake 3 why people say quake should be multiplayer and doom singleplayer?

>>9177621
the unique advantages (and challenges) the mod probably gives you, plus the buffed demons probably make for a unique gameplay experience.

>>9177630
Those ""people"" are either zoomers who don't know Q1 exists or normalfag sexhavers who only played in Internet clubs back in the day

>>9177630
maybe? did you mean to reply to the other guy?
I'm fine with Q1 being left the fuck alone as I don't trust anyone to do it justice.

>>9177394
I would tell you to leave norway, but seeing how the things are going of late, you better solve this shit.

also they look great, in any case i find it interesting that jehar and the other dipshits at TS who always shill for Q2MP, hasn't shown up yet to help with this project. but then they are occupied shilling FW's maps.

>>9177504
he wants to force this shit so only "they" are the mappers for Quake, i may not be surprised if lordhavoc is on this shit too with a new "progressive source port" for quake that is "vanilla friendly"
also the fact that this retard has shilltubers and streamers on his side doesn't help either.

is things like this that kills a community and creates more fractures, all because of one mentally deranged idiot who thinks 1 game matters, is pure retarded tribalism.

>>9177601
>>9177619
Quake 2 lasted more than Q3A at release, only when they fixed the netcode a year into release and the tools, is where the Q3A took off, mainly because Q3A at release was next to unplayable because timmy wallets released it with the most shit ass implementation of a netcode, paired with the early punkbuster service that would even ban you from official id servers.

Plus Q2engine was piss easy to work with even without tools, idtech 3 was a mess without the source and tools, also Goldsrc dabbed on idtech3, mainly Q1 and Q3 when it came to modding, since the damn thing took notes from Q2 development, it was easy to work and mod on GoldSRC.

and Unreal is Shit, since day 1, garbage to mod and garbage to program.

>>9177606
trying too hard tourist-kun

>>9177625
UE2 is where UE took off, UE1 was a shitshow that needed pure C++ magic to work, people doesn't remember early deus ex gamebreaking bugs, or even undying.

>>9177649
>, in any case i find it interesting that jehar and the other dipshits at TS who always shill for Q2MP, hasn't shown up yet to help with this project
They're busy right now actually.
https://www.twitch.tv/tastyspleentv

>>9177393

>>9177693

>>9177697
>>9174727

>>9177630
No, people were saying that back in the Q1 days. It was the first FPS where the multiplayer was the big draw.

>>9177697
queen of armour

>>9177585
>has malice and ravages of the apocalypse source code ever released?
No idea about the other one, but MALICE's source code was lost and had to be decompiled from the progs file (meaning no comments and some weird anomalies like raw numbers being replaced with defined floats). It's usable, but awkward.

>>9177393
Thank you for joining us for 94 Protons of /vr/, this is a true revolution of creativity and testament of /doom/'s unrivaled bastion of artistic vision. I'm sure it will inspire mappers for years to come.

See you next week for Malefactors.

>>9177706
It's funny how we've looped back from people finding multiplayer amazing and groundbreaking to people wanting single player content back. It was unironically a fad that lasted until people realized other people suck

>>9177393
>>9177718
Well that was something

>>9177393

>>9177723
It's time to chew cells and shit armor, and I've got infinite cells.

>>9177393

>>9177674
Dunno, i don't like the Q3 generations arena models on Q2 for weapons.
Powerups, armor and Health+Ammo feels nice.
I still remember the shitshow when this came out.

>>9176987
how often does this happen? i don't think it's ever happened to me

>>9177393
I banned the schizo for 7 weeks, hopefully he'll take his medication in his time off.
We're playing Community Chest with Malefactors next week as a return to simplicity.
Following that, we'll play SRB2Kart in our first semi-regular session of the mod.
That's all.

>>9177719
Multiplayer is still alive and well, just not in the same way. Competitive games come and go faster than ever, but sandbox games keep high numbers for ages.
DuskWorld kinda proved that people just aren't too interested in rapid fire deathmatch anymore. Needs a gimmick or progression. Unlocks, some sort of long game.

>>9177649
>trying too hard tourist-kun
look who's talking. I'm not the one dragging in outside drama from /v/, discord & twitter.
I normally don't engage with your crusade of the month (pointless as I've learned, like about the "compression" or about your bilinear schtick). but if you're back to your 2019 "Q1 is worst quake by /vr/ consensus", it ain't gonna fly. looking forward to your Q2-25 maps.

>>9177757
is that austinado?

>>9177354
very nice

>>9177528
kek

>>9177701
>corridor name

>>9175656
Get a used $15 Geforce GT720 video card on ebay. Itll run up to new vegas no problem.

>>9177621
that sprite looks pretty good and not out of place for a touched up screenshot of a 3d game
ignoring that doom's sprites are touched up photographs in the first place

>>9177385
>>girl arms
Alright, you've done it now!

>>9177795
Oh
So that's what the holes are for

>>9175645
>GTX 750
Ha ha ha. I'm using a Geforce 210.

>>9177393
can't find it, is it already over?

>>9177812
Yes, and I'm glad for that.

>>9177812
Yes.
Be glad you missed it. Seriously.

>>9177814
>>9177815
dang

>>9177814
Do you guys regularly get schizos or something?
Thought about trying it out sometime

>>9177818
No, only today. The host got rid of him.

>>9177818
In our 75 sessions, we've had 2, so it's more like an occasional circus freakshow than a regular occurrence.

i remember when brutal doom was still in vogue, there were always a few coop full servers.
it was never my thing for solo but brutal doom coop was the shit. vixen maps and shit

>>9177824
>>9177826
Oh that's good to know

So is there a specific reason why megagame.wad gets so much stigmatization as of late or is there a culmination of different reasons that require a rundown to fully grasp?

>>9177826
hmm i never experienced a schizo in online gaming, i'm almost curious

Now that this mapset is relevant, what are your thoughts?

>>9177832
Yeah they're good people. Always stuck doing shit on sundays so I don't get to jump in much as I'd want to. Worst you'll see'em do is just good old 4chan traditions. It's a fun time

>>9177835
Setting aside my personal opinions on its gameplay and community, I just think it's overplayed on Zandronum. Part of the reason we started FNF/SNS was to bring attention to lesser played game modes.
>>9177845
Gusta is my #1 inspiration for my own maps so this WAD is naturally one of my favorites.
>>9177832
If you wanna get into SNS, I think next week's session will be best. We're playing something lowkey and simple and not something absolutely insane like we did tonight.

>>9177835
no idea what others think of it but i'm not a megaman person and in 3d it's an eyesore.
other than that it seems fun.

>>9177835
It's popular and people love to hate things that are popular I guess? I think we did do a boss invasion mode awhile back and people didn't really like it particularly since all the waves were very samey.

>>9175645
I have an old 750Ti that unfortunately has some bad memory or on it or something, it dies after running a game or even browsing the web for awhile. Kinda wish I had an idea of what was wrong but it's a pretty low priority

>>9175715
>I really would like to see more Quake projects to follow up on VR.
Doom is just so heckin valid though. (And easy to map for.)

>>9177848
>I just think it's overplayed on Zandronum.
One thing I've noticed with megagame.wad servers on Zandronum is there are barely any pure deathmatch servers you could find there being played on. It's always last man standing or rp servers with different forks of the same class addon that get any traffic.

>>9177824
What happened?

>>9177957
He called everyone pedos or something. Nothing much, but he was being serious and not ironic.

>>9176372
Big boi. Fun enemy, when you have dodging his fireballs down.

>>9176505
Haha wouldn't that be crazy haha

anyone playing with mods or in a sourceport or map that allows jumps - do you constantly jump like a goofball while on damaging floors to mitigate the damage?

because I sure do

>>9178000
I resist the urge to press space to jump but if a modded rocket launcher has enough knockback I'll do a cheeky vertical rocket jump to get to a high place once in a blue moon

>>9176741
Not joking. It's not hardest Doom 2 for sure, but hardest (Ultimate) Doom wad. It's not slaughter, but it's like dtwid but difficulty tuned as high as you can while still retaining the feeling of original Doom.

*ahem*
Graf is a big gay for not letting me set pain chances properly with ZScript, but my autistic programming workaround powers outrank his utter homosexuality so now you can counter-punch/counter-hit demons in the dev version of Babel with 100% guarantee of causing a flinch if you do it right, skill notwithstanding. Note that this only works on their bite frames, nothing else.
I'm not entirely sure I'm going to put this in, since it does seem a bit busted, but if I do it'll be with a nerf to the chainsaw on Demons specifically. It'll still lock Spectres in place and counters will work on Spectres, but I'll nerf its overall chance on Demons since the only reason it was so high to begin with was to avoid instakilling the player when they got locked into a "chainsaw the demons lol" scenario in a map, which this also fixes and fixes better than the old fix.

>X/Y billboards

>>9176642
The "Fiber Demon" posters make me laugh.

>>9178090
I wish Mr Chicken would just allow us to control the extent of which Y-Billboarding goes, a subtle 15-20 degree like in Build games would work wonders.

Still trying to decide if this was a good idea or not. Might have it only work this perfectly for the chainsaw and punches, desu.

Sound posts?

>>9178000
>do you constantly jump like a goofball while on damaging floors to mitigate the damage?
i don't wanna answer that :(

>>9178170
They got angry when you killed their first friend.

>>9178183
It do in fact be like that

>>9178170
tbf if I was a demon trying to kill doomguy, I'd find it really goddamn distracting if he was shoving a fucking chainsaw into my face too

>>9178195
Yeah see I like that part, but what I don't necessarily like is that it also makes it so you can do this with the SMG, or the chaingun. It kinda neuters the demons a bit when you can pretty much just swat them and go "No, bad demon, you don't get to bite me" with literally anything.
I've got it working with chainsaw+fist only and I think it's alright.

>>9176683
I just checked out new maps on a whim today and found that site exists now with its bizarre anti-Quaddicted ruling and the sheep man in charge. What in the goddamn is even going on in Q1SP? I'd ask elsewhere but even the usual places seem to hate Quaddicted and its admin now for some reason so there's 0 chance of an unbiased reply. Someone did point out that the part about 'joining together communities' is pretty funny given that the Slipseer admin has left at least three of them, though.

so
prboom+ for normal doom and normal wads
gzdoom for cuhrazee mods
correct?

>>9178270
Yeah, sure, that'll do. Throw in Chocolate/Crispy if you want to go full vanilla purist mode.

>>9178270
Pretty much. You don't really have to worry too much about features in other source ports, unless you want colored blood in a vanilla port.

>>9178282
mmmmmmmmmmmmm colored blood is nice...

>>9177957
The short of it is some moron who got himself banned for schizoposting here took his butthurt to SNS and asked us to shit up the thread for him. He started lashing out at people and calling them pedophiles or some shit when he was told to fuck off and now he's banned.

By god I did it, I made the Archvile's code less awful. Then I immediately overcomplicated the shit out of the minion code to make them have the same ghost-y effect, fade out when they die, and die when their master dies.

>>9177727
final doom is bae.