/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9173935
BLOOD takes a massive fucking shit on Shadow Warrior. Honestly of all the DOOM clones that people still remember existing, Shadow Warrior is one of the worst ones.
>Never really played this style of FPS
Does that include the obvious ones like Quake and DOOM? If you haven't played them, go fucking play them ASAP.

Also if you like Star Wars, play Dark Forces.

>>9173935
If you haven't played Duke 3D, you have to. It's great.

>>9173935
Didn't you make this post in the Doom thread?

>>9173935
>playing the game
>can't get the title right
Welcome to 4chan, everyone.

>>9173935
So is this where the duke64 smgs came from?

>>9174119
SW > Blood

>>9174630
It's very strange to welcome other people to a website that you have just recently entered yourself, Anonymous.

>>9173935
Other than the rest of the Buld engine games, try Soldier of Fortune.

>>9174119
I never liked blood, I found it boring and the gameplay tedious plus the main character lacked any real personality.

>>9174119
Blood sucks ass, cultists are lame and the level design sucks

>>9175085
That's true. My 17 years here isn't much compared to the 33 years I've been on the internet.

>>9175168
>filtered

>>9174119
>BLOOD takes a massive fucking shit on Shadow Warrior.
It doesn't, it's the most overrated game on this board. It's a good game, kind of ruined by hitscan enemies and constant ammo droughts. It's much slower paced than Shadow Warrior and the arsenal isn't remotely as good.

>>9175391
>ruined by hitscan enemies
Blood would be horrifically boring without the Cultists.

>>9175302
All blood fags ever claim is
>dude you got filtered git gud
They have no arguments on why or how their game is good other than its just le retro shooter zooms can't into because it's tough as nails. It's ridiculous, I could explain how the game is entirely shit and the only replies would be of "filtered" and those webms where they spam prone and are playing on a low difficulty to hide the fact that the hit scanners are bs

>>9175095
And avoid Redneck Rampage. And William Shatner's TekWar.

>>9175393
Because the design is terrible and the difficulty hinges on a singular enemy. If your balance and fun hinges on one guy, it's a bad game

>>9175394
I'll provide a half decent answer: Blood's cultists are fucking ruthless, but I personally enjoy the abuse. It's not for everyone but if you acclimate to that shit you're usually going into rooms and either clearing it out instantly and leaving a trail of bodie, or you fucking die. Same reason why some people really enjoy the likes of Ninja Gaiden or other hard games, really. Or why there's people out there that really enjoy Hideous Destructor, which is a Doom mod that stacks the odds heavily against the player's favor.
I say all this as someone who likes Shadow Warrior the most out of the big three Build engine games.

I like Duke, I like Blood, and I fucking LOVE Shadow Warrior.

>>9175398
I wouldn't call it a bad game, but the monster roster has some pretty shit design.

>>9174119
Blood is tedious garbage with bad weapons and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>9175406
>bad weapons
I'll fight you on that. The dynamite is still one of the best throwables I've used in an FPS, and I think the Flare Gun's role as a weapon is pretty fucking big brain. Shotgun's alright, and the Tommy Gun is stronger than it seems. Naplam Launcher is pretty good rocket launcher style weapon too.
I don't care much for the voodoo doll, the life leech, or the spray can though, and the pitch fork is lacking.

>>9173935
Ion Fury is p. dope.

>>9174119
>BLOOD takes a massive fucking shit on Shadow Warrior.
Why would you say that.

>Honestly of all the DOOM clones that people still remember existing, Shadow Warrior is one of the worst ones.
HUH? Come again? The fuck you just say? Are you some seething chinkSJW or something?

To everyone who thinks the cultists are unfair in Blood: try chrouching.

>>9173935
I think it has the best weapons in a Build game, but the enemies and levels are hit or miss.

Other than the ridiculous splash damage from explosives I have no complaints about this game. I died so many fucking times using the grande launcher. It's crazy.

>>9175178
Holy shit that's so cool!

>>9173935
Make sure to play both add-ons as well

If you want difficulty, try the following:
>katana start every weapon (just kill yourself)
>hardest difficulty
>no saving during a map

I know the game so well it's what I do every time, although I do use auto aiming. The Uzis and Shotgun feel like they were balanced with auto aiming in mind frankly.

>>9173935 (OP)
Make sure to play both add-ons as well

If you want difficulty, try the following:
>katana start on each map (just kill yourself at the start of a map)
>hardest difficulty
>no saving during a map

I know the game so well it's what I do every time, but it took a lot of dying to get there, although I do use auto aiming. The Uzis and Shotgun feel like they were balanced with auto aiming in mind frankly.

>>9173935
>was a CS and cockadoody player
i can relate, i wasted my time for years in cawadoody before discovering classic shooters
>What are some other shooters like this?
Blood
Duke Nukem 3D
Quake
Doom 1,2 and Final Doom
If you want shooters like Wolfenstein 3D:
Rise of The Triad
Blake Stone Aliens of Gold and Planet Strike.
Unofficial games (they are like mods but i like to call them games out of respect for the work Done in them)
Quake:
Arcane Dimensions
Blood:
DeathWish
Doom 2:
Ancient Aliens
DBP37: AUGER;ZENITH
Rowdy Rudy's Revenge!
Rowdy Rudy II: POWERTRIP
Icarus: Alien Vanguard
Vanguard
Lunatic
Eviternity
Back to Saturn X
Slaughtermaps (they are a hard recommend but they have their fans):
Micro Slaughter Community Project
Sunlust
Sunder
And Enjoy!

>>9175873
Not as cool as being a zoomer who sucks nigger and kike cocks.

I’ve always found Lo Wang funny. Not as funny as Duke or Caleb, but his stereotypical Asian speech is endearing

build threadly reminder, check out arthurian legends.. shit is so cash, more build than ion fury