/vr/ - Retro Games

>>9162937
it was my favorite too anon

wish i could afford it. wish i could read jap

>>9162958
You don't need jap for this one, and you can always just emulate

>>9162963
emulation is wrong man, cant do it

>>9162963
You do if you want the full game. The US release doesn't have skits.

I hated the dub in that one.

>>9163086
I like it in the "so bad it's good" way

Reminder that this game is actually called Tales of Eternia. The real Tales of Destiny 2 was never localized, sadly.

Destiny RC is better
Abyss is better
:/

>>9163162
It's the campiest one, but has the best battle system. They revamped it in RC but it wasn't nearly as fun with the mashing the d-pad to speed up spell casting. Issue with ToD2 is the overworld sucks, but in its defense you get 3 overworlds. Present, Past, Future

>>9162937
Eh, the first half was pretty good, but it quickly went to shit afterwards.

>>9163193
What changed?

Decent game, though I haven't beaten it because I lost interest somewhere around the middle I think.

>>9163193
That's standard fare with Tales games. It's like a curse

Phantasia > Symphonia > the rest don't matter

>>9163519
You aren't a Tales fan

>>9163519
>Symphonia
It's the worst out of the "good" Tales games, only got hyped because of the GC exclusivity.

>>9163452
Same, after you meet Chat I dropped the game. Couldn't hold my interest like every single fucking other one, and Star Oceans.
>>9163851
Unironically this.
>>9163519
Agree. The people that came in only because of the nintendo systems weren't here from the start, don't play tri-ace, didn't import any, and can't even name their favorite hi-ougi.

>>9163851
To be fair, when Symphonia came out there were only like 2 other Tales games available in America and both were relatively obscure. Symphonia was most people's first exposure to the series outside of DeJap's infamous ToP translation. And then Legendia wasn't all that impressive in comparison to Symphonia.

Not getting the PS1 ToP remake and Rebirth pretty much left Symphonia as the peak of the series in America for a good while.

>>9162981
Then remain poor and ignorant forever.

Even Nintendo has been using emulation since the OoT release on GameCube.

PSX emulation is so easy you can run it on a raspberry pi.

>>9163519
ToP tier taste

>>9164827
I hope you're not sincerely implying Rebirth is better than literally any other entry on PS1 or PS2 except for OG Destiny.

>>9164863
Rebirth is easily better than Legendia.

>>9164917
They have similar problems in structure, except Legendia actually has good writing. Rebirth has a better battle system, but you don't get to play it because the game is all dialogue after the Geyorkias fight.

>>9163162
I love this game, but I'm biased because it was the first game I ever imported.

>>9165036
I disliked it my first playthrough, loved it on the second. Just requires the right mindset to enjoy it I think

>>9163519
Phantasia has the dumbest dialogs and dumbest characters I ever swa in a videogame, period. Dropped after like 15 hours cause I couldn't bare the stupidness of the hero and his friends. Never touched a Tales games again.

>>9165086
In fairness the first playthrough you will have no fucking idea how to game the SP system, you'll feel like you're gimped at all times.

>>9162937
The only good tales game is xillia. Retro tales games suck

>>9162937
>Look up "Tales of Destiny 2"
>Its a ps2 and psp game
>Op's image shows ps1
I'm confused

>>9165390
OP isnt ToD2.

>>9163086
There's an undub mod out now.

>>9165406
But theres clearly a "II" there. Now I'm more confused

>>9165442
SMB2 wasn't SMB2.

>>9162963
>>9162981
Play a backup on your ps1 then.

>>9165410
Only for the PSP version. Nobody has bothered to undub the ps1 version.

>>9165442
See my post: (>>9163162)
Namco's US division apparently thought it would be a good idea to capitalize on the brand recognition of Tales of Destiny and just call the next game they localized Tales of Destiny II instead of Eternia, its actual title seemingly. I still want to play the actual Tales of Destiny II, I think only that and Rebirth are unlocalized at this point as far as the mainline games go. I played the fan translation of ToD Director's Cut last year, it was fun.

>>9165754
I think it's because "Eternia" is trademarked by Mattel because of He-Man. Namco probably would have been able to get around that but the suits probably didn't want to bother. Kind of like how they didn't fight for Soul Edge and just changed it to Soul Blade.

>>9165763
Maybe, I didn't even think of that. They didn't even bother releasing the PSP version in the US it seems, at least Europe got it unlike the PSX version (and kept the Eternia name.)

>>9165748
Should be noted that the PSP version is pretty much objectively the best way to play it. Battles go from 30 FPS to 60, and movies that were cut from the original were put back in. The only downside is battle shortcuts were made slightly more annoying (L + O/X instead of L2 or R2) due to the PSP having less buttons.
The same applies to all of the Tales ports on the PSP too, they're all the best versions of each game.

>>9165283
The opinion of a man who plays a game he hates for 15 hours before deciding to stop shouldn't be trusted. 5 hours max on any JRPG is all you need. If it hasn't gotten good by then, it never will, but a lot of them need at least that long to open up.

>>9165812
>Should be noted that the PSP version is pretty much objectively the best way to play it.
WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY TRANSLATE OR EVEN JUST SUBTITLE AND MAKE SILENT THE SKITS? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM

>>9165410
Oh, that's neat.

>>9165774
>They didn't even bother releasing the PSP version in the US it seems
They released it in Canada though so it was easy enough to get a hold of.

>>9165887
There wasn't enough map memory left to add subtitles to the skits or something

>>9165913
fucking BULLSHIT

A lot of the games are like that aren't they? They just decide to not localize the whole game and start cutting stuff.

>>9166065
The early ones, yeah. Destiny and Eternia have skits cut, Symphonia and Abyss have skit voices cut, and Legendia had the entire second half of the game unvoiced. Vesperia was the first one that was all there in localization.

>>9165283
>filtered

I played Destiny ps1 out of curiosity and hoo boy, that generational bridge hurts it. Phantasia felt like an "early ps1 game" but Destiny feels like "a late SNES game". I know that sounds wack, but my point being is that going from Phantasia to Destiny does not impress much. Then I played Eternia (or rather "Destiny II") and GODDAMN what a jump. Battles felt more kickass and looked notably more interesting. Exploring the world felt like it was actually made for that console generation. It's too bad it didn't get much exposure back then, because I think even casuals could have enjoyed it, if they weren't so fixated on "CUTTING-EDGD 3D GRAFIX" thanks to square's bullshot advertising schemes. GOD, even the fucking random battle music just hits so much harder than Destiny. Felt so good to go from https://youtu.be/yN1TWPdszRY to https://youtu.be/EaUjQVhobQU

Friendly reminder that the actual ToD2 will soon have a completed translation patch.
And so will Tales of Innocence R.

>>9166262
Part of this game's failure was due to 9/11 occurring at the time of release. No one in the US was paying attention to gaming when it dropped.

>>9166634
>September 10, 2001
Jesus Christ. Then again
>releasing a PS1 game after the PS2 came out
>a fucking full-length RPG no less
I almost want to appluad namco for their reckless bravado.

>>9165989
For the PS1 version yes I'm pretty sure that was the case.

>>9162937
some of the best 2d graphics and battle system for a tales game.
The developers got it all right with this one in that aspect, then never made a 2d game again.
The soundtrack is excellent vintage sakuraba but not as good as phantasia or destiny

>>9167849
>then never made a 2d game again
There were seven 2D Tales games released after Eternia.

>>9166421
Is there an active ToD 2 translation project? I know ToI R is pretty much done aside from some proofreading.

>>9162937
Fucking incredible soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCslBMzgYXs
>>9163086
I'm conflicted on the dub. I appreciate that the actors (mostly) don't ham it up doing typical anime dub silly voices, but instead they often sound uninterested and very obviously reading their lines directly off the script. Would like a little bit more enthusiasm, especially for the battle voices.

>>9162937
Phantasia and Symphonia are the only good Tales.

>>9167201
>releasing a PS1 game after the PS2 came out
>a fucking full-length RPG no less
This is probably the biggest factor. It affected all those games. Nobody really bought Arc the Lad Collection either. Its hard to attract people to last gen RPGs as is, let alone when something like FFX was on the horizon.