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Is there a reason to play the remakes when 3 ruined the series?

>>9152781
yeah, if you have taste

>>9152786
>not 4

>>9152873
I'm replaying the series now and 5 is easily the worst so far. Why am I playing rhythm games with a literal child? Fucking tarded.

Kiwami 1 is a mod of 0 and Kiwami 2 is a mod of 6 so kinda, they're different enough experiences. Og 2 is way better than 3 at the very least. 1 was a bit rough even back then but it gets better after training with Komaki.

>>9152781
yep, if you play the originals you'd have and understanding and appreciation for the remakes.

remakes won't run on my PC while PCSX2 does

Kiwami 1 was awful. They fucking flanderized Majima into a clown. He was a lot more interesting when he wasn't showing up in every corner of the street.

>>9152886
this too

>another zoomer game thread on /vr/

>>9152886
2 (the original version) already did that, and it only got worse from there. Majima was only ever good in the first game, when he was a threatening psychopath and not some lolrandom cartoon character.

>>9152881
You mean dislike, the remakes are ass

>>9152781
They're very different. It would be like saying there's no reason to play MGS1 when Twin Snakes exists. You should play both if you're a fan of the series.

>>9152897
>mikeposting
you have to go back

>>9152909
Twin snakes completely breaks MGS1 because they didn't update the level or boss design for the new First person mode or hanging off railings.
It's honestly a fucking crime what Silicon Knights did and Kojima should have been ashamed.

>>9152897
Not every zoomer series is shit anon, Yakuza is anything but retro but I would rather have it here than fucking Halo. At the end of the day, it's just River City Ransom with a lot of dumb side missions here and there.

>>9152917
2000s Kojima was a fucking dumbass

>>9152937
Also while we're at it do you guys happen to know any other nonlinear beat em ups? I'm only familiar with Yakuza and the Kunio series.

>>9152878
How is 5 worse than 4?!
It has the most polished and varied battle system in the series (not counting Ishin and Kenzan) and the best optional content.
In every other Yakuza game the protagonists seems to stick his nose into affairs of others, while in 5 the quests complement the main narrative gracefully.
I want to do the bear quest, because it's related to the guy who saved Saejima. I want to do all the Taxi related quests because that's the actual routine job Kiryu tries to get good at.
And the actual story didn't had like twenty different nonsensical betrayals and rubber bullet twists, which already puts it on a higher level then 4 in my book.
>>9152786
Probably an unpopular opinion, but there has never been a truly terrible Yakuza game (yet).

>>9153075
>Probably an unpopular opinion, but there has never been a truly terrible Yakuza game (yet).
I agree, although I haven't played Dead Souls and so can't comment on it. Even 3 is not a bad game, just kinda mediocre.

>>9153081
Dead Souls is pretty bad. Maybe not turd bad but I struggled to even finish the main story because I was just so bored.

>>9153081
>Dead Souls
Oh, this one was erased from my memory, so I guess it wasn't that good.

I really don't like Yakuza at all and the entire scene and memes that's blown up around them just makes me feel like I'm insane. They're honestly kind of boring and I'd rather play Shenmue.

>>9153534
>Shenmue
I am thinking of playing Yakuza because I heard it's the closest we ever got to a proper Shenmue successor.
You telling me it isn't?

>>9153539
It depends on what you like and take away from Shenmue. For me it isn't at all.

>>9153539
It is Shenmue but with a shit ton more advertisements. Try all of the Suntori beverages then you will learn the Suntori Suplex. It really is that shitty. I am not saying don't play it. Just be prepared to pinch your nose.

>>9153539
If you're retarded or an early 2000's vidya reporter than yeah yakuza is a shenmue successor

>>9153539
They're only "similar" in the most superficial aspects like having an open world and a bunch of minigames. Yakuza is still pretty good, and very old school Sega, but it feels more like an open world version of Spikeout. Or a spiritual sucessor of River City Ransom as I said early in the thread. The core gameplay is completely different.

Spikeout with mini games is fun, but I don't care about the history of these games

>>9153612
Nah there is no sega in this game.

>>9153612
Funny cause spikeout's gameplay is basically a beta of Yakuza.

>>9152781
PS2 Yakuza 1 is trash but Kiwami 1 also sucks especially if you play 0 first. PS2 Yakuza 2 and Kiwami 2 are really good. Although, I'd highly recommend installing the "No more hit bounce on block" mod for Kiwami 2. Otherwise, extremely solid game.

>>9153647
>PS2 Yakuza 1 is trash

>>9153667
I wouldn't call it trash but it's the most primitive out of the bunch and the jump from 1 to 2 is pretty big.

>>9152781
Yakuza 3 is the only bad game in the spikeout series and its spin offs, I don't know how the collision is so bad.

>my best friend says to me that Yakuza 0 is awesome
>I say that I will buy next month
>he give it to me as a present
>I play and love it
>we talk a lot about Yakuza
>present him back with Yakuza 5
>1 year ago
>wife dump him
>he jumps from a bridge and kills himself

I know it's not /vr/ related, but every time I see a Yakuza thread I remember him.

Damn...

>>9153715
how? Didn't felt that different.

>>9152781
Yes. It's important to play things in release order, that way, especially with yakuza, you can see how incredibly bad the series was on the ps2, and then when you get to yakuza 3 on ps3 you'll see just how much it improved.

>>9153539
>closest we ever got to a proper Shenmue successor.
Every reply is pissing and shitting at your question but they didn't address this, which is very much true, it's not super close but it is the closest we got although Yakuza is better IMO

Yakuza 1 on PS2 is fucking dogshit, absolute fucking trash of the highest order. 2 is way better.
Kiwami isn't bad but like others said, it kind of flanderized majima and the kiwami system for fights is annoying as fuck if you don't know its coming.

>>9154483
>Yakuza 1 on PS2 is fucking dogshit, absolute fucking trash of the highest order.
How did it get a sequel then?

>>9154493
Don't ask me. The franchise sold like shit. It sold so badly that Yakuza 5 didn't even get a physical release, it was digital only. Yakuza didn't take off till 0.
Theres a reason the ultimate yakuza collection for the PS4 has a PS3 yakuza 5 box included, so people could display their full collection properly, even if it is just an empty box.

>>9153629
insanely low iq comment

>>9154505
Yakuza 5 wasn't even going to be localized at all because Sega was disappointed with the sales of Dead Souls. Sony funded the localization because the game was the top choice the #buildingthelist twitter campaign of games people wanted localized. It ended up selling really well digital-only and Sega decided to localize Yakuza 0.

>>9154565
Wow, twitter did something good.

>>9154483
It really isn't. You're probably a zoomer bandwagoner that only knew that the series existed because of 0, played the modern games first only to come back to the original later.

Yakuza PS2 has cheesy dub and Yakuza 2 is genuinely great. You should play these games instead of playing the cheap "lets just use Zero assets" remakes.

>>9153018
>Director of the biggest selling gaming IPs of the 2000's
>Dumbass
Pick one.

Also lol at people whining about first-person shooting in TTS. Try to get the Big Boss rank in the game and see if it's still easy.

>>9153783
He should've becoming a loan shark instead.

>>9153783
very sorry to hear this about your friend. at least you have the memories of him and hopefully it goes beyond some video games

>>9154618
>Director of the biggest selling gaming IPs of the 2000's
you mean of the three mainline MGS games he put out, only 2 & 3 being good games, where the 4th notably had his cowriter completely absent and therefore ended up a pile of shit?
Yeah.
He's retarded on his own. He needs an editor and it really shows.

>>9154595
Na, I bought yakuza 1 way the fuck back in the PS2 days cause of one my favorite actresses voiced someone, found it slow and clunky as fuck.

Why doesn't every other yakuza game have a climax battle/battle review/ultimate match challenge where you have to complete every fight in the game consecutively?
It's so fun to just drop in every now and then and go through every encounter in a more arcade style without having to walk to any location or skip any cutscenes and dialogue.

>>9152781
if you are a poorfag with a shit pc and no ps4

>>9154601
>You should play these games instead of playing the cheap "lets just use Zero assets" remakes.
,lol how can a game have zero assets? you have no idea what your talking about, just mindlesly hating on remake

>>9155457
He meant Kiwami recicled all the assets from Yakuza 0, and he's right. There's almost no new content in the game, it's a glorified 0 DLC. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game, but it's cheap.

>>9154505
It sold great in Japan, far beyond expectations (which were very low), that's why they made a sequel in a record time, a mere year. It failed in the west but that happened after it was a big success in Japan, the sequel launched there two months after it was released in the US. Without huge sales they wouldn't have even thought about a western release with a dub full of big names, they tried to replicate that success.
There was a nice documentary about the development and reception but can't find it now.

>>9152781
Can you play the remakes without an internet connection?

>>9155614
If you get the discs, I don't see why not

Both Kiwami games suck ass especially 2 (anything on the 6 engine plays like shit). Yakuza 1 now has a undub patch so you can play it without the retarded localization if you want.

>>9155614
Why wouldn't you be able to?

>>9152781
Is the japanese version censored?
I have seen games with that triangle before and those are usually censored compared to american version

>>9156223
Nah these games don't really have anything to censor in them

>>9156101
>Yakuza 1 now has a undub patch
Didn't realize one had finally come out. I'll have to give that a shot sometime soon.

>>9156495
I'm sure these games have been censoded many times

>>9156538
Give an example then? In the rereleases of the later games some tranny jokes are removed, Kiryu doesn't smoke on the cover of 3, and some character's faces changed after the actors got caught on minor drug offenses. But these aren't region-specific changes, and none of them relate to the PS2 games we're talking about.

>>9156573
Even the least popular games in the GTA series sold more than the best selling Yakuza game, I don't understand how PG13 Yakuza is censored in the west, SOA is really dumb.

>>9156129
It’s probably due to concerns earlier on about the PS4’s CMOS bomb issue, where even disks would not be playable offline if the CMOS battery died.
Luckily for players, Sony patched that out of the PS4/5 recently. Of course Xbox owners are probably out of luck if the severs for the console dies.

>>9156597
god DRM is so fucking infuriating no wonder I stick to old games

>>9156495
From what I have seen in japanese games that have that red triangle on the cover, it is usually censored when it comes to violence
Like RE, God Hand

>>9156586
Because the yakuza localizers are all reset era alphabet crowd types.
Yakuza 3 had an entire set of missions about trannies and them chasing you, obviously that had to go in current year.

>>9152886
>He was a lot more interesting when he wasn't showing up in every corner of the street.
The Majima Everywhere calms down after a while but yes he's fucking RELENTLESS at the start of the game.

>>9156878
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>>9156508
If you loathe Kiwami and can read Japanese, try "Ryu ga Gotoku 1&2: HD Edition" for the PS3. It's the original Yakuza 1&2 with slightly better models and textures.

Now that RPCS3 emulates every ps3 game, has anyone started translating this game?

>>9157264
For some reason I thought this was a Wii U exclusive